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South Africa Fights To Keep Phone Networks Up as Lights Go Out (reuters.com) 128

An anonymous reader shares a report: On a recent Friday morning north of Johannesburg, the head of South Africa's largest telecoms company surveyed the arsenal of backup systems keeping just one of his 15,000 network towers online amid the worst power cuts on record. A diesel generator. Solar panels. A bank of expensive backup batteries, theft-proofed within a block of concrete. "Our costs have gone through the roof," lamented Sitho Mdlalose, managing director of Vodacom South Africa. As the national power grid crumbles, leaving Africa's most advanced economy in the dark for up to 10 hours a day, mobile operators including Vodacom, MTN and majority state-owned Telkom are scrambling to ensure their networks stay up and running.

They're spending millions to install solar panels, batteries and are even trialling wind turbines, while targeting deals with independent power producers to supplement struggling state utility Eskom's increasingly unreliable output, three company executives told Reuters. At stake: essential voice and data services in a nation where landlines are rare but nearly 80% of residents have access to mobile internet. Overall, the power crisis and logistical constraints are expected to erase 2 percentage points from economic growth this year, according to the South African Reserve Bank governor. Mary-Jane Mphahlele, an attorney who also runs a small travel agency in the city of Polokwane, experiences that lost economic activity every time the power is cut. "New clients can't call me ... That means no money is going to come into my business," the 29-year-old said. "It's hell." As they battle to simply mitigate the worsening crisis, telecommunications companies have seen operating costs balloon. Vodacom and MTN executives told Reuters they're having to divert capital away from much needed network upgrades and 5G rollouts. Meanwhile, they said government regulations are blocking potential solutions, such as sharing backup power infrastructure with their competitors, and revealed they're lobbying authorities to help ease the pain.

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South Africa Fights To Keep Phone Networks Up as Lights Go Out

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  • by drwho ( 4190 ) on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @12:59PM (#63427948) Homepage Journal

    sort of slid into decrepitude over the past few decades.

    • Would you say 30ish years ago was the start of the decline?

      • Would you say 30ish years ago was the start of the decline?

        Is that you, Elon?

      • South Africa was always a tragedy waiting to happen. In Apartheid the future tragedy was contained by another tragedy. The main problem was that the whites did not spend enough on education and better infrastructure for everyone while they had the time. But one doubts if that would have been financially viable.

        One thing about South Africa nit very clear to outsiders is that the Apartheid state was in many ways a theocratic dictatorship. The extremely conservative Calvinists did a lot to keep things backward

        • by arglebargle_xiv ( 2212710 ) on Thursday April 06, 2023 @03:05AM (#63429482)
          Yup. A Rhodesian friend of mine who fled Mugabe's Zimbabwe once observed that SA would end up like Zimbabwe, only it'd take longer because SA had a lot further to fall. The decline has been particularly rapid in the last 10-15 years or so, Eskom was rated the world's best power company in the early 2000s (really!) and now can't even keep the lights on.
      • by tragedy ( 27079 )

        That is around when they signed a trade and military cooperation agreement with Russia, so that could be it. That's what you meant, right?

    • by takochan ( 470955 ) on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @03:28PM (#63428468)

      Their power company used to be the best run and most reliable in the world.

      https://www.news24.com/fin24/e... [news24.com]

      How things change..

      • I tried to figure out why the Financial Times called it the best power company, but it's not clear from your link. It's perhaps partly on a financial basis? In any case, I live in Switzerland and doubt how power companies can be more reliable, I remember only one single interruption in 20+ years... With Linux, uptimes of several years is easily doable without special power provisions (yes yes, behind a firewall, etc etc).
    • by HiThere ( 15173 )

      Perhaps. But you're ignoring that mobile phone networks in the US tend to go out during disasters in a way that the wired phone lines were never allowed to.

      • But you're ignoring that mobile phone networks in the US tend to go out during disasters in a way that the wired phone lines were never allowed to.

        It is not about wired phones lines not being "allowed" to go out during disasters. It is just an inherent fact of the mobile networks technology: we replaced physical landlines, able to withstand disasters, and which needed very little energy to operate, with Single Point of Failures called radio towers, each one needing its own energy supply to actually work.

        I don't know about the rest of the world, but in France those radio towers have batteries, or sometimes (less and less nowadays) onsite generators. Th

        • by HiThere ( 15173 )

          It's "allowed to". There were design decisions made during the implementation of the systems that were different. To an extent this was inevitable, but not to the extent that it happened. The system is as fragile as it is because it was cheaper to implement it that way.

  • by RemindMeLater ( 7146661 ) on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @01:00PM (#63427950)
    How did SA go from a modernizing (if fractious) country with its own nuclear program to now essentially a failed state with few prospects of turning around. The riots a couple years ago were shocking.
    • by Radice Utente ( 599989 ) on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @01:11PM (#63427978)
      Friends in SA tell me the Boers are bugging out, arming up, and developing their own infrastructure. They don't have foreign passports, so all they can do is wait out the storm.
      • How far does South Africa have to collapse, before putting the Aparteid lot back in power sounds reasonable?
        • Theynwill not get back in power. They might go and live in a few small self sufficient communities but honestly by far the majority of whites are not nazi boere and do not want to live in a desert town run by a bunch religious fanatics.

    • How did SA go from a modernizing (if fractious) country with its own nuclear program to now essentially a failed state with few prospects of turning around.

      Because under Apartheid, the economy and state were controlled primarily by people of European or Asian descent. There are no black countries that have ever reached the level of technical, artistic and political capabilities of Europe, the Middle East, Asia or even Central and South America. The closest Africa has ever produced is Ethiopia which is very

      • Re: (Score:1, Interesting)

        by HBI ( 10338492 )
        Jared Diamond had an explanation of this. Worth considering. See: "Guns, Germs and Steel". Something about availablility of grains - like wheat or barley - domesticable animals and contintental axis - Eurasia being the winners on all these fronts.
        • Jared Diamond had an explanation of this. Worth considering. See: "Guns, Germs and Steel". Something about availablility of grains - like wheat or barley

          Africa was Rome's breadbasket. They produced wheat.

          • by DarkOx ( 621550 )

            Yes; and in the case of South Africa its some very productive farm land - that is why the English and Dutch were there.

            • by HBI ( 10338492 )
              More importantly the area near the Cape has Mediterranean climate again, making Eurasian crops feasible there.
          • by HBI ( 10338492 )
            He goes into sub-Saharan Africa and the fact that Eurasian grains by and large won't grow there. "Africa was Rome's breadbasket" only applies to the lands near the Med who had the same general weather patterns as Europe and Asia.
          • Jared Diamond had an explanation of this. Worth considering. See: "Guns, Germs and Steel". Something about availablility of grains - like wheat or barley

            Africa was Rome's breadbasket. They produced wheat.

            That was NORTH Africa, in which lived Berbers, not Black Africans.

        • Not really. People like to bring up Jared Diamond even though virtually everything in "Guns, Germs, and Steel" has been debunked several times.

          • by HBI ( 10338492 )
            I actually don't think that stuff got debunked about the grain sizes, and the stuff about domesticable animals is not really easy to debunk, there aren't a lot of species in question. People still haven't domesticated zebras, for instance. The continental axis thing is debatable, but I think he had a point there.
          • by saider ( 177166 )

            Is there a book that covers this debunking? I'd love to read the opposing viewpoints without having to spend forever tracking all the papers down.

          • Links please. I thought that book had held up pretty well overall. Educate me please
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        Even before the slave trade

        Also remember that more whites were abducted and enslaved than blacks. [osu.edu] This was the cause of the Barbary Wars. [wikipedia.org]. I agree with your comment about Ethiopia. Trouble is, they are a long way from the policies of King Selassie and have embraced a lot of communism, which has held them back.

        • by tragedy ( 27079 )

          Also remember that more whites were abducted and enslaved than blacks. [osu.edu]

          That does not actually seem to be the case from the article you link. It talks about up to 1.25 million white Europeans enslaved. 10X that many Africans were enslaved in the Americas alone. Also, this was in North Africa, not sub-Saharan Africa. Making that distinction seems to be very important to others in this discussion, so I thought I should point that out.

        • It's clear that in recent history, black slavery is the hot topic, but I think historically, everyone who could would make their neighbours their slave. I don't want to diminish the current movement about reparations and such, but the truth is, we all descend from slaves as well as from slave owners.
      • by scamper_22 ( 1073470 ) on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @03:11PM (#63428398)

        As a former South African, let me just add some nuance here.

        The biggest crime of colonialism was not colonialism itself, but incomplete colonialism. What I mean by this is colonialism typically destroys the existing leadership in a society and tries to replace it with the colonizers or some variation thereof.

        What happened in Africa was particularly bad as the existing leadership was destroyed (even if you think it was tribal and backwards), Sometimes they were at best pushed to ceremonial positions. And the Europeans left before putting in place sustainable new leadership.

        Case in point is talking about Ethiopia being 'the best by African standards' Any coincidence that it was also one of few areas NOT colonized. Closer to South Africa, you'll notice much better leadership in Botswana... because the Botswana leadership was less destroyed.

        So while you can point to a slice of history and say black societies were 'backwards' or indigenous societies were backwards and it would be a true statement. I think a far more important point as it relates to government is their traditional leadership was often destroyed and left incomplete. They're often a worse spot than they were pre-colonization.

        Technology and what not can be adapted to pretty quickly. That's actually the easy part of the equation. Social and leadership structures are much harder.

      • Yeah, it's amazing what the minority can accomplish when they treat 90% of their country's population as vassals.

      • Rwanda is doing quite well considering it hasn't been that long since the massive genocide. It's obviously not at the technological level of Europe, but the government is doing a good job at developing the country and I wouldn't have any problems with living there.
      • There are no black countries that have ever reached the level of technical, artistic and political capabilities of Europe, the Middle East, Asia or even Central and South America.

        Except for ancient Egypt, a world leader in its day.

        • The ancient Egyptians weren't blacks, as can be seen in the tomb paintings that portrayed them as having complexions very similar to those in Europe.
      • by HiThere ( 15173 )

        That really depends on what century you look at. Personally I blame the tse-tse fly (sleeping sickness) and malaria for a lot of their problems, but, among other things, Africa had one of the first iron working cultures. And somewhere down there (location unknown) was one of Egypt's prized trading partners.

        There were decent civilizations in Africa when Northern Europe was entirely uncivilized tribesmen. But most of Africa is...difficult.

        I'll grant that this doesn't explain South Africa, but it explains w

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Why describe them as "black" countries though? Why not say "nations blighted by colonialism"?

        The point is that those countries have not reached European levels not because they are majority black, but because of the history of European colonialism.

      • by tragedy ( 27079 )

        I know you either think you're being reasonable or at least pretending to be, but what you're saying simply is not true. Consider ancient Egypt, for example. Through large parts of its history, it was a majority black kingdom. Or the Mali empire. The Mali empire is actually a fairly good example of the problem. They reached a high level of technical, artistic and political capabilities. When they were wealthy from the gold trade, that is. The problem they had is that they didn't actually mine the gold thems

    • by groobly ( 6155920 ) on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @01:15PM (#63427992)

      Not from SA, but this is obviously a case of what happens when race not competence decides who is in power, just like Zimbabwe, but not as rapid a decline, even if democratically elected. SA also suffered white flight, losing vast amounts of talent.

      One can argue the white flight occurred because they could no longer live on the backs of the slave class, but nevertheless they took their talent with them when they left.

      • SA here. What is the difference between Zimbabwe and South Africa?

        25 years

        • Zimbabwe got independence in 1980. Apartheid ended 1993 or so. South Africa remained economically healthy far longer Zimbabwe - though I agree it's looking very bad now.

          • To be honest, Rhodesia, Zimbabwes predecessor state, did not have any meaningful industrialization, unlike South Africa. So there was. Ot much to build on. Robert Mugabe was also way more Marxist than the senior ANC leadership. At least the ANC tried to maintain a semblance of being an inclusive somewhat democratic organization. ZANU and ZAPU ( and the MPLA and SWAPO) were little personality cults.

            The white South Africans always saw the Rhodesians as a bunch of bush-whacking frontiersmen. Adventurous Englis

    • by DarkOx ( 621550 ) on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @01:15PM (#63427994) Journal

      1) The cold war ended - not nearly as much US diplomatic interest and money running around
      2) That 'fractiousness' you mentioned. There is a large (mostly white) SA diaspora in the USA. That left in the 1990s and early 2000s it was not because of racism or anything like that if you get to know them. They left because they felt certain persons (not groups) came to power who were more interested in litigating the past and "getting even" than moving the nation forward and running a society that is fair to everyone. Independent of if you believe their is room in the sphere of justice to punish the children for the sins of their fathers; certainly once you become more focused on reparations, redistribution and equity than in productivity problems will ensue.

      • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @01:44PM (#63428086)

        certainly once you become more focused on reparations, redistribution and equity than in productivity problems will ensue

        Like the USA now. The USA is more focused on reparations, redistribution of wealth and equity than in what goes into running a country.

        This varies by state and city, but it's "generally" true.

        If Americans don't stop this in the USA right now, USA will be the next country to slowly crumble into dust, leaving China and Putin's New USSR to be the world's Bestest, Most Special Friends.

        They'll make the USA look downright benevolent in comparison.

        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          by layabout ( 1576461 )
          Redistribution of wealth and old-school Democrats seems to be strongly connected with innovation and infrastructure development. Back in the 50s and 60s when we had very high marginal tax rates and a de facto limit on income, we were a very innovative country. More public spending, more research from government and university labs etc. there were some significant private labs like Bell Labs but they function like a university lab and made a lot of their research available to the public.

          If it wasn't for r
          • Back in the 50s and 60s when we had very high marginal tax rates and a de facto limit on income, we were a very innovative country.

            Not exactly. Kennedy cut the highest tax bracket by 20%, and innovation was not unique to this time as it has blossomed in the US from the nineteenth century up until today under both conservative and progressive administrations. Think railroads, cars, planes, radio, etc, etc.

            More public spending, more research from government and university labs etc. there were some significant private labs like Bell Labs but they function like a university lab and made a lot of their research available to the public.

            Public spending in the US starting increasing substantially in the 1930s. The economy didn’t start taking off until twenty years later.

            If it wasn't for racism, the 50s and 60s were pretty good years.

            Again, not exactly. The fight against racism started in the early 19th century and continues.

        • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          It's the opposite of that. The US was at the height of its power when productivity gains were enjoyed by workers as well as employers. That hasn't been the case for some decades now, and many of the problems that the US is facing is caused by that decline in people's wealth.

          As an example, look at the MAGA guys who tried to stage a coup. They want to make America great *again*, as in back to how it was in the good old days when their productivity gains were enjoyed as increasing wealth. One person with an av

      • by PPH ( 736903 )

        They left because they felt certain persons (not groups) came to power who were more interested in litigating the past and "getting even"

        Whatever happened to Nelson Mandellas Truth And Reconciliation Commission? And the amnesty that TAR was supposed to grant past bad deeds once confessed?

        I guess this is something to consider in the face of CRT.

      • Is it not a GRRRREAT thing then that a very loud portion of the political spectrum desperately tries to also get even with the past in the US?
        What could possibly go wrong!

    • by dskoll ( 99328 )

      Simple answers: Corruption, incompetence and (in the case of the riots against foreigners) xenophobia.

      Some of the incompetence is the legacy of apartheid... Blacks in South Africa were never given the proper tools to create and manage a government. The corruption and xenophobia, though... that's the ANC's own fault.

      • by Viol8 ( 599362 ) on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @03:22PM (#63428434) Homepage

        They had a long transition period and plenty of whites to show them how to run things. They weren't interested. Like the rest of sub saharan africa all they wanted was to get their hands into the cookie jar and do favours for family and cronies.

        A lot of people predicted this is where SA would end up but naturally were dismissed as racists by the usual lefties. Oh well, cant educate pork.

    • Once "Britian" pretty much turned over control of the area to those that knew nothing about running a country, THAT is when they went downhill. Now I'm not saying racism, slavery or any of that is a good thing, but just giving over the keys to the nation, to people that have no idea how to run it, was the reason it's gone down hill.
      • Re:Apartheid (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Firethorn ( 177587 ) on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @02:18PM (#63428206) Homepage Journal

        Pretty much. In handing the keys over, they gave it to what's basically a kleptocracy. They didn't just take farms, they took farms, handed to their cronies who didn't have any clue on how to run a farm.

        Then, when the farming equipment broke, due to neglect or abuse, they'd accuse the former owners of sabotage.

        I mean, who knew that you need to change the oil in tractors occasionally? Keep irrigation lines buried or painted, not to mention patched up?

        Etc...

        • Racist South African soil stubbornly refuses to produce a crop once the new farm owners arrive and stare at it for a year while sitting under a tree drinking hooch and fighting.

    • by CAIMLAS ( 41445 )

      Populist affirmative action and class politics at a national level.

      They put kleptomaniac socialists in power who played to their populist special interests at the detriment of societal well-being and, well, societal functioning.

      Anyone who could do things and could leave, did. Those who could not leave - farmers - were (and are) systematically attacked and often murdered.

      They'll have severe famine and collapse within a year.

  • by WoodstockJeff ( 568111 ) on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @01:13PM (#63427986) Homepage

    As the national power grid crumbles

    Why is it "crumbling"? I would think fixing this basic problem would postpone other issues. Lots of money spent to fix things that are a problem because a very basic component (power) is missing.

    And it seems that government is a problem there, from what I read.

    • It's not like they are too focused on building theme parks to care about power infrastructure. The crumbling of the power industry is just a reflection of a country that is falling apart all over. Garbage pickup, law and order, health care. It's all in the toilet.
    • by CAIMLAS ( 41445 )

      Because anytime they repair or replace things, they're stolen. If something is chained down, the chain will be taken along with whatever it's chained to. Unless it's under arm guard, it's only a matter of time before it's stolen. Most of South Africa doesn't have potable water now, either, and power has been unreliable enough that even charging devices has become problematic.

  • by Seven Spirals ( 4924941 ) on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @01:19PM (#63428012)

    Whites are moving away in droves from SA, so I guess the ANC got what they wanted. They made their bed, now they get to sleep in it. They got rid of apartheid then put the ANC in control. Now that they are "post-racial", what's wrong? Did Socialism fail spectacularly again? Try stealing more, maybe. That is usually the late-stage strategy for an end-game kleptocracy. At least they are the rape capital of the world,now. So, they aren't backsliding on all international measures.

    • Just like Norway and Sweden, right?
  • Why is it "South Africa Fights To Keep Phone Networks", and not "South Africa's National Power Grid Crumbles"? That's your first clue. The entire world has gone completely insane for cellphones and automobiles. We will destroy everything to protect them. The alien archaeologists will be most perplexed on examining the reasons for our extinction.
  • " A bank of expensive backup batteries, theft-proofed within a block of concrete."

      This is the same company where you can have flamethowers installed on the sides of your car to stoo carjackings. Like something out of Mad Max.

    Power cuts is clearly not their only problem.

  • by HnT ( 306652 ) on Thursday April 06, 2023 @12:12PM (#63430522)

    I know quite a few very popular platforms where posts and discussions like these would be deleted within 5-10mins.
    Will be interesting to see how long it survives here.

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