Terabit Ethernet Inches Closer To Reality 182
An anonymous reader writes "Researchers from Australia, Denmark, and China have combined efforts to show the feasibility of terabit-per-second Ethernet over fiber-optic cables. The solution involves a photonic chip that uses laser light for switching signals, and a form of the exotic material type, chalcogenide, or arsenic trisulfide."
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I only need inches, if you get my drift.
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You can have a repeater every 3 inches. Simple
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You can have a repeater every 3 inches. Simple
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My setup seems to have a repeater every two inches. Should I get a CCSPE (Certified Cisco Slashdot Posting Expert) to fix this or is it safe to adjust the font settings myself?
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You can have a repeater every 3 inches. Simple
You might not be all wrong. [wired.com]
Right now the idea of using such a technology in a cable in a data center seems like madness (ho ho ho) but technology has a way of making the impossible commonplace, given enough time.
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Obviously you forgot your "NO CARRIER".
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I think you meant "NO REPEA
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You can have a repeater ever 3 inches. Simply
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...that we are inching our way towards the metric system.
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The article doesn't say how far they can send the terabit signal, only that the receiver requires 5 cm of fiber to split the signal into lower bandwidth pieces. Presumably the distance between sender and receiver is longer than that.
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For such a high speed link, I think that a CSMA/CD technology is probably the wrong answer. Your "bubbles" in the network wire of collision screaming must be incredibly wasteful. But hey, we live in a field where waste is justified by the comparative cost of hardware upgrades over man hours.
I'd love to route Ethernet packets tunneled through an ATM link set up on this kind of bandwith, but somehow I don't think that solution requires cutting edge research.
Ethernet is good at doing what it does well, but t
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For such a high speed link, I think that a CSMA/CD technology is probably the wrong answer.
The modern way to build an ethernet network (at least the important parts of one) is to use switches and full-duplex point to point links. Full duplex links do not use CSMA/CD.
CSMA/CD is rarely used at gigabit (I don't think i've ever seen a gigabit hub) and isn't supported at all at 10 gigabit and above.
TFA and the /. summary poorly titled though, this is about a physical layer advancement. That advancement may event
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So would your wife.
That's an aweful lot of porn. (Score:5, Funny)
Not that I would ever use a terabit connection for porn... but uh, when's that coming out again?
Re:That's an aweful lot of porn. (Score:5, Funny)
Not really. It's a well-known fact a lot of innovation is driven by the porn industry. This stuff is probably being sponsored by the Ultraporn [wikipedia.org] coalition to put their digital media online.
Imagine streaming video so clear you can actually sense the actresses' emotional issues!
-Matt
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Imagine streaming video so clear you can actually sense the actresses' emotional issues!
I thought that's what prostitution was for?
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Prostitution, recommended by 9/10 doctors as less virus ridden than using IE for browsing porn.
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Being someone who works at a porn company with multiple dedicated lines buried under the ocean, I can say this is very true. We test all the equipment we have to the limits.
I worked for a lot of mom and pop companies that thought they had problems.
We are pretty much a dedicated Foundry and Cisco debugging team.
When a single server gets over 10,000 hits a second (yes, second, not minute) - it tends to stress your equipment.
Times that by a few hundred servers and you get the idea.
I used to deal with simple PH
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Imagine streaming video so clear you can actually sense the actresses' emotional issues!
Not to mention all the scar-tissue from aesthetic surgery and skin ravaged by too much make-up. High-resolution could be a bit of a problem for some; thankfully they are making improvements to CGI every year.
That makes it better. (Score:2)
Imagine streaming video so clear you can actually sense the actresses' emotional issues
That would actually make it better. Some broad ruins her life completely to make me happy for a few minutes. Kinda balances out marriage.
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The lapdance is always better when the stripper is crying.
My wife actually introduced me to that song. She's pretty awesome.
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Um, porn went VHS, instead of betamax. Porn went Blue-ray, instead of HD-DVD. Both of these happened when the competing standards were new, and both times, the side they picked one the format war, after they had decided to use that format.
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Correlation is not causation.
Re:That's an aweful lot of porn. (Score:4, Insightful)
On a large enough sample set, correlation implies a relation other than chance, and thus should be investigated. Otherwise you can keep screaming "Correlation is not causation" at every piece of data every produced and try to claim that we can never claim results.
After all, if I state that "Each time a plant is deprived of water and sunlight it dies.", stating "Correlation is not causation" is complete nonsense. We've observed over a large enough sample set that yes, in this case correlation damn well IS causation. Effectively, your only argument here should be whether or not the sample size is large enough.
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Correct.
In this case a simple look at the history of home media technology to see that porn is on everything, so it's not a predictor. Also, there wasn't enough porn being sold to prop up the VHS industry; which is what it would need to do to make a winner.
Yes a lot of porn is made, but so are a lot of other movies. Also, porn was not mainstream at all during the VHS/Betamax war. I mean, you still had to order it out of porn magazines, or go to that seedy store just outside of town.
I think the samples size
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Every single time the earth's mean temperature has been rising steadily over 400 years, pirates have died out. That's a 100%!
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Again, wrong. Learn you history before opening your mouth.
There was porn on betamax. It was a violation of an agreement with sony, but it did happen. Had Sony not had there dumb ass licensing agreements and fee's, there would have been more. Of course I could argue that is Sony did that, betamax would ahve won. Then you would be using your hind sight to say the port 'predicted' beta would win.
There is porn on HD-DVD.
I have both.
The porn industry gets it more then the main stream movie industry does as far a
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The porn industry gets it more then the main stream movie industry does
I would imagine.
as far as getting your entrainment out their.
Out their what? Wait, maybe I don't want to know.
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I decided that risk was to high. I am on break using my work computer.
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Lets see:
Heavy drug use is rampant AND expected.
People drawn to that industry are usually screwed up emotionally.
I'm not against the Porn industry, but it ahs problems.
That said, as it become more mainstream it will draw people less screwed up. What the industry really needs is a union.
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That said, as it become more mainstream it will draw people less screwed up. What the industry really needs is a union.
Bad idea - you'd end up with all of the acting jobs going to the women with the most seniority.
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funny thing...I was thinking that exact thing when I first read it...that and...I need to get a bigger hard drive. Also..."damn it....I just upgraded my home network to gigabit"
either way...reminds me of that video on *tube...you know the "For PORN" song.
I just upgraded to gigabit ethernet last year. (Score:2)
My CPUs, displays, hard drives and network keep getting faster, getter, faster, stronger, (no apologies to "Datf Punk",) but this is one hell of a jump in performance.
Damn.
At least I can't upgrade my eyes, brains (and right hand. :-)
I'm a leftie (Score:2)
but I'm a leftie.
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Now I can finally get started on building my holodeck.
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Didn't you get the memo, our world is a hologram [newscientist.com], making a holodeck inside it would be like googleing google [slashdot.org].
What value? (Score:5, Funny)
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Tera ethernet... 5-25 gig monthly caps... "I used my monthly cap in 31.65 seconds..UH O..."
That would mean the telco companies actually decided to give us enough throughput. Sure, it'll work well on a LAN when they eventually deploy it, but unless if you have fiber coming to your house and all the way to where you're trying to grab that episode of Desperate Housewives from it will not go that fast. You also have to account for your neighbor who is addicted to porn and downloads it constantly seeding at 100% for days on end.
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You also have to account for your neighbor who is addicted to porn and downloads it constantly seeding at 100% for days on end.
Hey, don't talk about me like that when I'm not around ;)
Only two minutes from OP to reply -- You type pretty fast for only having one hand available!
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But if you look, that whole sentence could be typed with just the left hand keys.
no, not really I just wanted t make you look~
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Speaking of caps, any Comcast customers here who have run up against to or close to the ceiling?
I think if two companies are in the same market then one of them will eventually blink by doing actual network upgrades to get customers from the other company. Of course that's assuming they want to make money by doing work and not raising rates.
I've never come close to hitting my cap and I am a "power user." I also don't have an HDTV or a computer to stream HD from.
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Actually, 1 Terabit/s = 125GByte/s. So that 25GB cap would take... Wait for it... 0.2 seconds of continuous downloading :)
Then again, by the time bandwidth like that is cheap enough for us, it'll be cheap for the telcos as well, and we'll probably be moaning about the petabyte bandwidth caps on our $20/mo plans.
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ah but are we talking HDD GB or O/S GiB
1Tib could well fill 25GB of your hard drive in 0.18s, but an ISP would have to be a complete douche to use such units of measurement...
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Sustained real world throughput for SATA drives is somewhere in the 500Mbps range - that's 60 Megabytes per second for single-threaded sustained reads or writes. Mix it up a little by having multiple applications access the drive at the same time and throughput can drop a full order of magnitude (in the range of 6 Megabytes per second.)
Given that, yes TerE is serious overkill for anything you are not already using (and continually saturating) GigE for. I'd say about the only situation where TerE would rea
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Agreed. Newer SATA drives can sustain burst peak throughput of 120MB/sec for the first 10% of the drive, on a newly formatted drive in which all the data is laid down in a single massive contiguous linear string of sequential blocks. During the first few minutes the drive is being used for benchmarking under optimal conditions.
Newer SATA drives that have been used in real life for a few weeks, with a normal distribution of data and the file allocation table scattered all over the drive, using the entire s
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10 Gbps is already normal in server rooms. OC-768 is in the wild at around 40 Gbs. 100 Gbs is definitely around in labs, but I'm not sure if any of it is retail yet.
SATA doesn't have to be very fast, because a single hard drive isn't very fast.
Re:Too early? (Score:5, Insightful)
This isn't exactly destined for workstations in the near future(heck, neither is 10GigE, and that is more or less commodity-off-the-shelf stuff by now); but there are applications where higher speed per fiber could well be desirable.
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Crab People... Crab People...
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No, with modern repeaters, that is not necessary. The repeaters are pure optical amplifiers that don't care how the signal is modulated. Only the end equipment needs to be sophisticated to do the fine-grained wave-division multiplexing - so you don't need to pull up the repeaters to upgrade the capacity. It's really quite neat. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_amplifier [wikipedia.org]
Re:Too early? (Score:5, Interesting)
I suppose you forgot about internet back bone links. Terabit Ethernet should hopefully enable Tier 1 ISP's to provide really fat pipes to ISP's so we can finally get more bandwidth. The bigger the backbones the faster our broadband can be. Well at least that's my fantasy. 100mbit boradband should be cake walk with tubes that fat.
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Ah! You sir, are very lucky! I wish I lived there now, I love the SISU trucks!
The population of Finland is just over 5.2 million (so says the CIA world fact book). I live in New York City with a population of well over 18 million! Imagine if only 5% of the NYC population (~900,000) bought 100Mbit broadband. The peak traffic that could develop from that many people would be 90 terabits! And thats just one of our large cities in a large spread out country of just over 300 million. The fastest broadband I am c
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This is no different then 10Gig Ethernet. Your not using this for Desktop, but in large ISP backbones to handle traffic. I'm sure this is years away from practical use even in there however.
Wake me up when Cisco offers 1TB Blades.
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The article talks about using DWDM [wikipedia.org] to basically multiplex multiple 40Gbps wavelengths on the same fiber. Separating out the wavelengths at the other end is the part where the speed limitation seems to be. 40Gbps has been around for awhile, and so has DWDM.
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True, but you can slice it up to many customers using less cabling. SO it might be terabyte to your nod, but then everyone gets a paltry Gigabyte for the last 100 yards.
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I thought everybody had a striped RAID with 300 SATA disks these days. Is it just me?
At any rate, the idea (at least at first) would be that the switches and routers are all linked up with Tbps Ethernet. Then users hanging off of these with Gbps Ethernet could transmit to each other at full speed.
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Let 1000 people drink?
All-natural ingredients... (Score:4, Insightful)
"...a form of the exotic material type, chalcogenide, or arsenic trisulfide.
Whew, for a minute there I was worried we were going to use some hazardous materials.
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You laugh (me too) but I'd sure like to know what we're going to do with all the Arsenic we have lying around. I mention it often, but here in Lake County California we have a superfund site full of the stuff. If we could bind it up and then dope something with it that would be very stable, it might give us a future use for the stuff that would let us not dump it into a concrete pit, fill it up, then pave over the pit, build some new walls, and add more arsenic.*
* I don't know that they're actually doing th
Content Filtering (Score:5, Funny)
Too bad my bullshit detector only operates at about 500 words per minute.
usefull for offline storage... (Score:2)
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...of the entire internets. just right click the network icon
What, I thought the blue E icon was the internet! I don't get it!
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So your saying the entire internet can be download in 347.22 days?
Not too bad.
Still needs work (Score:5, Funny)
Once you have the photonic chip installed, you will need to realign the deflector shield to output a graviton pulse through the arsenic trisulfide to create an anti-tachyon pulse which will modulate itself based upon the resonant frequency of the transport medium, thus allowing for longer distance transmittal of data than is currently possible.
Granted, it will take 15 years and research team of a hundred to complete, but it is doable.
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Seven is that you?
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Once you have the photonic chip installed, you will need to realign the deflector shield to output a graviton pulse through the arsenic trisulfide to create an anti-tachyon pulse which will modulate itself based upon the resonant frequency of the transport medium, thus allowing for longer distance transmittal of data than is currently possible.
Granted, it will take 15 years and research team of a hundred to complete, but it is doable.
No, they can do it in the middle of a pitched battle and before the next commercial.
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Okay, I'm the author of the Ars Technica piece, and that make me laugh.
Talking to the researcher, Eggleton, made my head slightly explode, because he's looking 5 to 20 years into the future with the research he's on top of today.
But they have practical devices that show that the stuff can be hand-built, and that's what blows my mind.
The future isn't in plastics -- it's in glass!
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The future isn't in plastics -- it's in glass!
You almost had me for a minute, but then I got to thinking, what do you think they're going to ship all that glass in?
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This is a funny day at Slashdot. +3 guffaw points.
Actually, I was thinking chalcogenide could be a good new name for a mixed drink. Maybe grenadine, liquid oxygen, and something fizzy.
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"Chalcogenide" sounds more like an alien war crime to me -
"You stand or sit or squish whatever it is you're doing with those tentacles,
ahem, you stand charged with 1st degree Chalcogenide of a cixz of innocent Glugyws. How do you plead?
"Gleeble poot zoooom pop! Zorn digqsstdfft pop!"
[Judge bangs photonic ultra-gavel]
"Don't try to diffract me! I don't care whether their Abbe numbers were lower than your specification! You are accused of having them Schott! No spreading dispersions on the victim's indexes wil
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See that Borg ship out there? You have 5 minutes if you don't want to be a member of its crew.
That's one bit every trillionth of a second. (Score:2)
In one trillionth of a second, light travels .3 millimeters.
So the receiver has to be able to not only detect that bit, but process it in time for the next bit that's right behind it.
Pretty impressive.
RIAA is training rats to chew cables (Score:2)
Multiprocessing? (Score:2)
The place where I immediately saw this being applied was in multiprocessor systems. Short distance. Admittedly, 3 inches is still a bit short, but was that mentioned as a transmission distance limit? I don't think so.
This might make a dynamite system bus for a multi-computer system. It would probably reach between motherboards. It may not really be "Infinilink", but then neither was the bus that was given that name.
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...I enjoy any solution that uses "photonic" anything and "arsenic trisulfide" anything. Cool
Interestingly, it conjured an image in my mind that is a mix of baby-formula and pesticides.
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This is truly a gigantic step forwards for the Chinese people, who will no longer depend on Western companies and governments to poison them.
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What's next then? 15 minute breaks for the 8 year olds working in sweat shops over there? Or maybe free lead-based cookies in the employee break rooms?
Hint: if you are going to rip the US government, citing the Chinese government probably isn't going to help your case.
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Dude, Star Trek technology (from TNG onwards) was based on optronics, not photonics.
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My question was how they are going to get permission to mount this stuff on fire hydrants? Seems pretty expensive.
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Compounds, no. Virtually all the lasers you are using are made of gallium arsenide.