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GFD writes:
"The EETimes has a story about a DARPA program to develop a new class of electronics and system architecture based on smart fabrics. Some of the more interesting challenges include networking protocols and fault tolerance. Routing between buttons? What happens if your CPU gets a rip??"
Re:Puts a whole new spin... (Score:3, Funny)
BTW, could Windows be considered Chlorine bleach?
(I'll be dragged down with you by the mods for those.)
Soko
washing out CMOS (Score:1)
Re: (Score:1)
A bit much? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:A bit much? (Score:3, Funny)
i used an e-toilet (Score:1)
Dang, this really does sound wierd! The wierdest part is that I am not making up any of this.
Re:A bit much? (Score:4, Funny)
remember neil stephensons 'diamond age'?
the girl in the story had a whole dress made of
nanotechnology that could pump water out of it
or change its color shape design etc.
one of the guys had an overcoat that protected him
from certain air borne nano technology and also
some bio hazards too
both were all kevlar-ish etc
think about it,
one set of clothes for your entire life
but a wardrobe of anything you could think of
;)
come to think of it
as a coder who has put in at least a couple of 24+hrs stints
it would be nice if these things could perform some hygienne based tasks too!!
im sure everyone else would appreciate too
my galaga shirt (Score:1)
The neat thing is that the article said that they already have the technology to make thread-based buttons and screens. Sounds interesting to me. Maybe instead of buying tons of shirts we can upload a
Re:A bit much? (Score:3, Interesting)
I have been following this idea since reading that book over a year ago. zzz.com.ru [zzz.com.ru] runs odd stories about various things, including a few on LED fabrics in the past.
This could be really cool, IMHO.
A bit more (Score:1)
Re:A bit much? (Score:5, Insightful)
Flags that were smart would be cool. Smart fabrics in general are neat because they have the potential to require less closet space. It would be very cool to wear a suit that could change color from business grey or green to funeral black. You wouldn't have to go home to go to the wake of a coworker. Similarly, road workers outfits could change color from the usual to International Emergency Orange (yes, that color has a name)when they're on the job. Smart curtains would be neat, ones that can change color when you want to redecorate, or change opacity on demand (this already exists in windows, though).
I'd hate to see a "smart" glove (I don't want my clothes to know where my hands have been), or a smart beer can (unless it can make more beer). I certainly don't need a smart door, but a smart key would be great (one key for you car, house, garage, desk at work etc...), unless you lose it, then you'd need a backup.
Come to think of it, I can't think of many things that wouldn't be better if it were "enhanced", but those few things definately DON'T need to be enhanced.
Re:A bit much? (Score:1)
Very star-trekkie...
Re:A bit much? (Score:1)
'It is my pleasure to open for you and my satisfaction to close again with the knowledge of a job well done.'
Re:A bit much? (Score:1)
This is not just technology for tech's sake (Score:2, Insightful)
This has some nice benefits for areas where you *don't* want to be lugging a notebook around, but need it for your job.
Like deep earth mining, areas of high toxcity (radiation, poisons, etc.), people with health issues and dangerous fire-fight situations.
Imagine a cop who gets pinned down and his clothes detect he's wounded, calls for backup and medical aid all at the same time.
Even if the officer isn't capable of *asking* for help.
Firefighters, cops, soldiers, miners, nuclear technicians, hazardous manufacturers and ailing people could all reap benefits from this sort of *smart* technology.
Re:A bit much? (Score:2)
Of course, some people would go the extreme and become cyborgs if the technology exists.
Re:A bit much? (Score:4, Insightful)
Why is it when an advance is made in some unconventional area, there are always those people that assume EVERYTHING in that area is going to change, and they will be forced to change along with it?
Just because there are 'smart clothes' doesn't mean you have to fucking buy them!
Re:A bit much? (Score:1)
think composites! (Score:1)
Now think how nice it would be for your aircraft to have hundreds of data paths to all of it's insturments and controls. Is that practical enough for you? Talk about USB buttons and CPU rips is cute and all, but this is useful. The wing is the wire. If you put holes in it, it will still work. If you blow the wing off, you have other problems.
Another nice combination of technologies was hinted at in the article when they mentioned parachutes. It would be really cool if intelligence, power and electro static materials were combined to guide the parachute. Think of object avoidance, soft landings on target, for an unconcious or dead trooper.
In the center of military flight flow charts is one box with one word in it, "kill". Yike!
Re:A bit much? (Score:1)
Clothing industry booster (Score:1)
Fire hazzard (Score:1)
What we need. . . (Score:4, Funny)
Re:What we need. . . (Score:1)
Dancin Santa
Re:What we need. . . (Score:1)
You are behind the times.
Actually, I heard of this one, and one that has a tracking/emergency system in case of mugging/kidnapping. Seriously!
Re:What we need. . . (Score:1)
Perhaps a smart chastity belt would be a better purchase if you're likely to be in a situation like that.
Re:What we need. . . (Score:1)
Perhaps a smart chastity belt would be a better purchase if you're likely to be in a situation like that.
With my luck, I would get a woman wearing such device to get in bed with me (so to speak) and the damn thing would malfunction!
Re:What we need. . . (Score:1)
Imagine the embarassment... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Imagine the embarassment... (Score:2)
Which is why you need to make sure they are properly washed. The dirt and stains will case problems.
I bet you didn't use Microsoft Soap.
Re:Imagine the embarassment... (Score:1)
HAL (Score:3, Interesting)
"I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you wander around in the forest."
Seriously, What are the privacy implcations? Is this yet another opportunity for the government? What about weaving this technology into all clothing without the person knowing about it? Will we have to do RF emissions checks when we go to buy a hat?
What about when it gets to the point where a computer could be tattooed into your skin?
I know this is all a long way off, but does anyone remember that episode of The Outer Limits where they all had the direct link into the Internet that they "wore" at all times? (I think it was supposed to be some sort of implant, but technology like this could bring us one step closer.)
Re:HAL (Score:1)
BUT, Upgrades would be a bitch...
Why? (Score:3, Insightful)
MS Pants XP (Score:3, Funny)
Your MS Pants Have Failed
PLEASE REMOVE AND REBOOT!
Re:MS Pants XP (Score:1, Troll)
Re:MS Pants XP (Score:1)
In 5 seconds, these pants will self-shred!
Re:MS Pants XP (Score:2)
Re: Re-boot (Score:1)
This looks like pretty 1337 stuff (Score:3, Interesting)
This tech may be mediocre for fully immersive computing, but it would kick ass for personal style. Of course, the fashion industry would probably hate it for the same reason; the "new color" would simply mean having to put in a new color scheme, not buying hundreds, maybe thousands of dolars worth of clothes. OTOH, the industry would probably do like they do anyways, and simply change the cuts ever so slightly. Any way you look at it though, this stuff is cool, if you have a slight immunity to fashion
Real insight in this quote (Score:3, Funny)
No kidding. One of the guys (at least I think it's a guy) in the server room has been cycling through the same three sweat suits since I've worked here.
Battlefield diagnostic shirts... (Score:5, Interesting)
The primary purpose in this case seemed to be diagnosing battlefield injuries as they happen. If someone gets injured in the battlefield, the piercing of the shirt would be used as a trigger to contact medical personnel. The positioning of the broken fibres would give the location of the wound. The fibres would also convey information about the amount of blood as well as any other fluids that might be present at the wound site. They would use built-in sensors to attempt to determine the trajectory of the projectile.
The result? Medical teams could be dispatched immediately, and would know (more or less) the kind of wound, and what they were likely to find when they got to the wounded soldier.
Of course, the requirements were also for a shirt that could be field washed several hundred times, and costed relatively little.
Sounded like an extremely cool presentation...
Heard about this- (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Battlefield diagnostic shirts... (Score:2)
The lifesaving aspect was their emphasis, unfortunately, the US DOD views wound characterization in a different light.
The chief benefit, from a military perspective, of being able to check on battlefield casualties remotely, is actually in the form of triage.
Being able to identify areas where footsoldiers are "beyond repair" or are in lesser need of assistance gives the battlefield commander (safe in his tent) the ability to direct limited medical resources where they will be most effective.
Cool idea in all, but there was widespread speculation that rather than using the technology to save lives, it would allow fewer medical personnel handle the load. From an economic perspective, doctors and medics are expensive (and don't kill opposing forces); grunts are cheap and lethal.
The one disagreement I had with the technology was that it seemed to be another business tool to make the military machine run more smoothly, and LifeShirt was pitching it as though it would save lives.
Tumble Dryers (Score:2)
OS2 Warp/ (Score:1)
Wearable screen saver (Score:3, Interesting)
Implications for the fashion industry are astounding. Something that changes Chameleon-like to resemble it's surroundings is a bit far fetched but a jacket with revolving, swirling colors and moving programmable paisly patterns will definitely be in vogue, someday. You just download the latest trend and there you are.
Re:Wearable screen saver (Score:1)
The fabric on your speakers that show a Whitecap or other "visualizer" as the music plays.
Fabric that does this kind of stuff will be must have for music tours.
Re:Wearable screen saver (Score:1)
Smart Yam (Score:1)
Seriously am I the only one who read this as Smart Yam?
I can see it now... (Score:1)
Smarty Pants@Three Dead trolls (Score:1)
Unlimited ideas! (Score:2)
I'd love a fulltime computer that records my daily activities, and when I'm at meetings and I forget someone's name, the computer could tell me who I just meet, and a quick bio. Ready information at the tips of my fingers. Maybe when Im out shopping, it downloads my shopping list and the suit tugs at products I need to buy. (Damn it, I don't need more fabric softener!)
Wear My Computer? I think not! (Score:1)
I mean. Yeah, it has that oooh cool faddish charm to it, but that's it.
What would be a practical use for something like this? [Oops... hang on, I just got e-mail on my shirt]
AHem.. Anyhow... As I was saying, It just doesn't seem practical, or even that useful.
Maybe there's some practicality yet: Spyware... No, no.. not software that monitors your every move, but clothing that can be used in covert operations. Hmm.. I've said to much already
Yeah, but does your Jockstrap run Linux? (Score:2)
level of supportability (Score:3, Insightful)
What's wrong with simple, renewable fiber clothes, which can be produced relatively cheaply and even without much damage in the environment?Of course some textile production methods are incredibly damaging and should be stopped.
smart fabrics... (Score:4, Interesting)
Science Fiction novels have latched on to this idea vigorously. One of the best ideas would be smart armor for soldiers (even civilians...). When the fabric is struck by enough kinetic force, the fabric goes rigid, dispersing the force across a larger area. Bullet-proof vests made out of this kind of material could prevent even MINOR injury from relatively large sidearms.
From a civilian application, you would be able to buy ballistic protective shirts, pants, jackets etc that look fashionable, but protect you from the jerks with knives and
It would be an interesting social exercise. If you outfitted every civilian in a city with clothing that completely protected the wearer from knives and small arms (handheld firearms), would crime dissapear? What would a mugger use to compel someone to give over their wallet? Gas? Sprays? Biologicals?
Would the criminal of the future wield a Windex sprayer full of some mysterious liquid and say "Gimme your wallet, or I'll give you the Black Plague!" Basically, what I'm asking is do you think that crime would escalate or give up?
I realize that people say "If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns." (which, by they way, I think is a stupid statement. Of course only outlaws would have guns. They're outlaws because they have guns. Duh!), but what if the guns were rendered useless? Even new guns?
Re:smart fabrics... (Score:2)
Re:smart fabrics... (Score:1)
If you have a firearm, try this: Get a small watermelon (about the size of a head), suspend it from the limb of a tree and start it swinging. Then take 4 strides away from it, turn and shoot it. Then try again. Keep in mind, the melon is swining in a predicable arc, not an erratic motion like the head of a panicked potential victim.
Re:smart fabrics... (Score:1)
That being said. I don't think anything will solve the problem. there will always be those without who are willing to take it from those with by any means necessary.
Re:smart fabrics... (Score:2)
Crime is rooted in violence. Violence seems to be intrinsic to human nature. Maybe we will some day evolve beyond violent tendances. I just hope that I live to experience it.
aim for the head (Score:1)
Cool error messages... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Cool error messages... (Score:1)
Re:Cool error messages... (Score:1)
Error fitting into pants: <A>bort, <R>etry, <F>ail
my sweater... (Score:2, Funny)
Mod this thread down as I waaalk a-way. As I walk away!
We'll finally be able to... (Score:3, Interesting)
Seriously, I can think of all kinds of uses for smart fabrics. The first that comes to mind is clothing for 'Medic Alert' people. Instead of scrambling for the 'Help, I've fallen and I can't get up button', their clothing notifies the nearest ambulance station that grandpa is laying down, and it doesn't think he's taking a nap.
Also great for concerned parents. A lot of missing child cases could be solved before they became missing/abused/homicide cases if you could ping your child's clothing.
The Future is Now (Score:1)
Fabric Monitors? Can you imagine camping in a tent that has 4 of those screens pasted around the inside, and headphone jacks in the window zippers??
Or how about all the computer companies who will be taking advantage of this to make "cool" t-shirts that give them some free advertising.
I Know! Throw in a keyboard belt with a wireless modem in the belt buckle and I can be a walking
HEY! DON'T TOUCH ME THERE!!!
Not that this is a bad thing, all in all, but I never thought I would see the day when things like this were feasible, much less actually in progress.
Props to America and the technological world in general.
What if your CPU gets a rip? (Score:1)
Stocking Intelligence... (Score:1)
Rip? What about a run? You can't just repair your new 'network' with nail varnish, you know...
That one's easy... (Score:4, Funny)
We're computer programmers, we do the same thing we've always done.
We apply a patch
two words (Score:2, Funny)
Look into the future: exam time. (Score:1, Funny)
Class dismissed!
Towelie Lives (Score:1)
"Can you imagine what it would be like to be way way too dry?"
Some future scenarios.... (Score:1)
2. Women's clothing that changes tampons when necessary. Transvestites everywhere will be scared back into Haagars, Slates and Dockers.
3. "Hey, that's a sharp suit you're wearing!" "Thanks, and my shoes are by Sony!"
compression algorithms (Score:1)
So I assume these will be... (Score:2)
As long as there are no "security holes" or "back doors", this may have some potential...
Neat. (Score:2)
What about Core's (Score:1, Funny)
ideas... (Score:1)
Pants that dry themselves after scary situations.
Chastity Belt complete with alarm system!
Obligatory comment (Score:4, Funny)
I can see it now... (Score:1)
"Gee, I guess I left my home work/presentation in my other suit."
No more feeding it to the dog I guess.
Goran
Imagine the Invisibility (Score:1)
Stain hiding clothes (Score:1)
I suppose you could just change the shirt, but what if you're not home, or just plain lazy?
I also wonder... (Score:1)
Will it keep me from wearing socks that don't match?
Will it electrocute me if I wear stripes with polka-dots or colors that really clash?
Goran
Smart Yams? (Score:1)
interesting related thing (Score:5, Informative)
smart optical camoflauge (Score:2)
I'm sorry dave... (Score:2)
HAL, open the pod bay zipper...
I would come out with a line of smart ass cloths.
Boss, I wanted to come to work, but my shoes wouldn't stop until we got to the strip joint, honest.
MS smart wallet!v1.0 with auto tithe!actually this would be funny because someone would hack it to work backwards and post it on
While telling your wife some lie, the clothes begin displaying the truth.
How about a hack that lets you control smart cloths from a distance. hmmm Instant see through!
That's me (Score:2)
(hint: check my username)
Solar cell clothing (Score:1)
how fitting ... (Score:1)
(fyi, the punchcard loom was the inspiration for the earliest computers.)
Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie predicted this... (Score:1)
Listen to the tune, and watch out for the "Smarty Pants".
link got broke, here's the URL (Score:1)
Invisible Tanks (Score:1)