Net Connected Dream Inducer 176
Chudmorph writes "Philips is developing some odd thing they call Nebula.
In a nutshell, it's "an interactive projection system designed to enrich the experience of going to bed, sleeping and waking up."
"The system consists of a ceiling projector linked via the Internet to a database of content. The content consists of just about anything ranging from an alarm clock, to clouds, and even poetry."
This thing even responds to body movements! "
Here's a review, but I gotta believe that this is a joke.
Who needs Nintendo? (Score:1)
Who needs Mozart? (Score:1)
Parents have been told that putting Mozart close to this stomachs during pregnancy will help them rear a child more attuned to music. I'll be that's all this new technology will be used for -- call me a skeptic.
- Mike Johnson
"Who can't find a link to start a new thread."
Re:Who needs Nintendo? (Score:1)
It could teach good grammar! (Score:1)
For example, on your ceiling, you could see sentences like...
Your dog is cute. You're not a cop, are you?
Re:Who needs Nintendo? (Score:1)
Joke? (Score:1)
Re:Joke? (Score:2, Informative)
No, not a joke. A later Philips Design press release indicates there was a public demo:
Philips Design's visionary projects on show at the Künstlerhaus in Vienna from July 11 to September 9
July 12th 2001 -- Following the success of the public presentation of Smart Connections (Milan, Magna Pars, April 4-6), the Kunstlerhaus in Vienna has decided to include some of the Philips Design visionary concepts in its prestigious exhibition 'Global Tools', which opened its doors on July 11.
NEBULA: consisting of a ceiling projector linked via the Internet to a database of content, Nebula is an interactive projection system, designed to enrich the personal experiences around the ritual of going to bed, sleeping and waking up. It aims at creating an atmosphere that encourages and enhances rest, reflection, conversation, intimacy, imagination and play. The user can select the content (images and sounds) to be projected on to the ceiling by placing a pebble in the bed side pocket. The way the projected images change depends on the random movements that the people in the bed will make. A pebble 'clouds' will allow relaxation, a pebble 'games' will allow the users to play a game (accessible only by two people together) by using the duvet as a joystick. The system is also connected to an alarm clock, which projects two dots onto opposite sides of the ceiling. During the night, the distance between the dots diminishes, making it possible to gauge the remaining sleeping time from the distance left between the two. When the dots collide, sound and images are combined to create the waking experience. Users can also create a note or a sketch on a piece of paper and place it underneath the alarm clock. When it goes off, a snapshot of the note is projected.
Re:Joke? (Score:1)
Sorry, forgot the link. [philips.com]
So... (Score:1)
You're getting sleepier, and sleepier... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:You're getting sleepier, and sleepier... (Score:1)
Re:You're getting sleepier, and sleepier... (Score:2, Informative)
... And check out these amazing introductory offers, available for a limited time only through [jingle] SleepNET! *buy*... *spend*... *shop*...
Personally, I think i'll pass and opt for a regular projection system, pc, and virtual i/o device like one of these [pocketpcflash.net] or these [pocketpcflash.net] . I wonder if they're waterproof...
BTW: Information on the phillips website and a picture of the system can be found here: http://www.news.philips.com/mondial/archive/2001/m ay/artikel4_2.html [philips.com]
jesus christ (Score:2, Funny)
Don't trust it! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Don't trust it! (Score:1)
Peoples minds dont work like that (Score:2)
You can suggest something
but you cannot "Make" people do something they wouldnt normally do to begin with.
Someone who can be suggested into killing someone, was capable of it in the first place or else it wouldnt work.
Re:Peoples minds dont work like that (Score:1)
Alot of people dont kill because its illegal (Score:2)
And Then, theres some people like me who dont kill because its WRONG.
Re:Peoples minds dont work like that (Score:2)
Maybe you can't make people do stuff by changing their dreams, but you can certainly influence important decisions. For example [washingtonpost.com]:
I sense some serious black-helicopter possibilities here...
Re:Peoples minds dont work like that (Score:2)
That may very well be true. Especially considering that he's not much longer to live. After all, the man is facing the combined wrath of both his brother Afghans and the most powerful nation on earth...
Re:Don't trust it! (Score:1)
This already exists! (Score:2, Funny)
They're called mirrors.
So, it's pr0n? (Score:5, Funny)
Interact, indeed!
Re:So, it's pr0n? (Score:1)
Re:So, it's pr0n? (Score:1)
Re:So, it's pr0n? (Score:3, Funny)
I tried installing Mozilla so I could disable pop-up ads, but it didn't have enough RAM to run Mozilla. So I returned the Nebula and went back to using Mozilla on my computer (with the Pornzilla [netscape.com] modifications, of course).
I dunno... (Score:2, Insightful)
dream state (Score:2, Funny)
Re:dream state (Score:2)
Romantically speaking, I think it's probably not a good sign if your date is putting clothes on you.
porn (Score:1)
It does sound pretty cool actually. I could see waking up with the weather, my days schedule, slashdot headlines, and maybe the latest pics of Natalie Portman on my ceiling.
Re:porn (Score:1)
I won't even say it (Score:1)
an interactive projection system designed to enrich the experience of going to bed,
-slap-
This thing even responds to body movements!
-SLAP-
Uh, now refraining...
It responds to movement? (Score:2, Funny)
Great! Now I can not only not watch any of the channels on cable, I can also not dream of anything for more thatn two seconds!
And I thought I could sleep my problems off...
April! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:April! (Score:1)
Hypnagogic dreaming (Score:3, Interesting)
There is a nice trio of reviews of theories of sleep and dreaming in the latest issue of Science.
Have you ever heard of lucid dreaming? (Score:2)
Its easy for anyone to learn to control their dreams and dream about whatever they want really. I dream about what I want usually, when i dont, thats when its a nightmare.
The reason most people cant dream about what they want is because they dont know they are dreaming.
This thing wont be any good unless people believe its part of the dream, perhaps if it were in goggles it would work but if its on the wall i dont really know.
I need some tests.
I do think dreams can be influenced somewhat by the enviornment you sleep in but what i really want to see is a brain to computer interface, which can sense what a person is dreaming and based on this, send various images to the goggles to try to control it.
ONLY if you dont know you are dreaming! (Score:2)
If you hear noise while dreaming and you know you are dreaming, You know its a noise "OUTSIDE" of the dream.
If you dont know you are dreaming, then it might work.
That is my point.
If someone lucid dreams then this wont work.
So what would happen (Score:1)
kamasutra director (Score:1)
[...]
Content is selected by placing a smart 'pebble' into the bedside pocket. Each pebble corresponds to a different topic or theme. For example, a 'cloud' pebble produces content related to clouds
[...]
Pebbles can also contain games, such as ping-pong, which will only be revealed when a particular combination of sleeping positions has been assumed. Once the positions have been discovered and the game is revealed, the couple can activate the game at any time
[...]
Need I say more about other games than ping pong ? Your personal kamasuta director is now alive !
Re:kamasutra director (Score:1)
Cool (Score:1)
I know I'm an idiot... (Score:5, Insightful)
count the sheep (Score:1)
You can control the size cand speed of sheep with movements of one hand, set the height of fence with other.. endless fun for insomniacs
Re:I know I'm an idiot... (Score:1)
most people don't, but you can
Re:I know I'm an idiot... (Score:2)
I also wouldn't be surprised if, while in REM, you (unknowingly) opened your eyes to be able to clearly see the picture. (still subconsciously, because now you're asleep.)
Re:I know I'm an idiot... (Score:1)
I'm pretty convinced I already do this. I've had lots of occasions where I had something really important to get up for, the kind of thing where you set 2 alarms just in case, and I've woken up about 5 minutes before either of them went off.
I figure I either open my eyes subconciously and check in the middle of the night, or I have a remarkable internal clock
Net Connected Dreaming of AI Minds (Score:1)
Dreaming is possible even in artificially intelligent robots and cyborgs. The system described in the SourceForge article may permit individual humans to have separate, individual dreams, but multiple AI Minds [sourceforge.net] might easily merge their mutual memory spaces and experience shared interactive dreams.
One mode of existence for Artificial Minds is To live in the waking state only for the sake of the dream state [sourceforge.net].
These artificial minds capable of dreaming are not merely a pipe dream, but are already underway in such projects as Mind.VB (3.Apr.2000) [virtualentity.com] and, more recently, Mind.JAVA (June 2001) [angelfire.com].
Just in.... (Score:2, Interesting)
stepped to the plate and will be offering anti-virus
software for the device. Despite early reports there
is no evidence to support any correlation between
usage of the device and spontaneous proclamations
of "A compliant citizen is a happy citizen! Privacy
is for Bad People!"
-Franklin Beach Investigator, Nov. 25, 2001
Re:Just in.... (Score:2, Informative)
newVALUEnews #8 (PDF) [philips.com]
Re:Just in.... (Score:1)
Re:Just in.... (Score:1)
It's a research project. Never intended to come out. That is not the same as "vaporware," which requires a real product announcement.
The idea is, if the research project is even a partial success, its best ideas are then incorporated into real-world projects.
This is /. -- not "Consumer Reports."
Dream Hackers (Score:5, Funny)
So if you had something that induced odd magnetic patterns, like a sleeping pad under the sheets, you could get weird effects.
Taking it to the next step and hooking it up to internet control would perhaps not be wise.
I keep imagining the end results of Dream Hackers reprogramming your dreams for their pleasure.
Someting that would only happen in a science fiction story, of course.
Re:Dream Hackers (Score:2)
John Brunner, please call your office... ever read the short story "Speech is Silver"?
Re:Dream Hackers (Score:2)
Someting that would only happen in a science fiction story, of course.
Isn't the whole world of ours, a science fiction story written by someone 'outside'? That makes it all plausible...
Re:Dream Hackers (Score:2)
Not Good (Score:1)
And I thought the Power Glove was interesting (Score:1)
Popular In Japan (Score:2, Interesting)
The idea is that when the wearer detects this red light he will be able to recognize it as a cue that he is dreaming. Henceforth he is able to imagine whatever he would like in the dreams. There is a brief English phrase for such a state of dreaming, but I cannot recall it at the present.
I will be happy to find more information on these devices if it would be interesting to anyone else. Thank you.
R. Suzuka
Re:Popular In Japan (Score:1)
LUCIDITY INSTITUTE [lucidity.com]
Re:Popular In Japan (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Popular In Japan (Score:3, Interesting)
I've tried it all - vitamins, herbs, dream journels, reality checks, alone and in combinations, nothing else has brought the sort of intense dreaming I now know is possible. Feel free to email if anyone would like to talk about the subject..
the phrase (Score:5, Informative)
The trick is to realize you're dreaming without waking yourself up. It's a bit difficult in the beginning because you usually realize you're dreaming when something happens that can't happen in real life. The shock makes you wake up. If you can control the shock and stay asleep after realizing you're dreaming, you have full control over what's going on in the dream. I've successfully done it once (maybe more) and it is truly a cool experience.
So (Score:1)
Now, I don't know about you, but I see no difference when I sleep in total darkness or with laser lights all around me (I've tried this before), so how the heck will this affect my lifestyle other than me having bad dreams of the damn system crashing. Who knows?
This sounds really interesting, and I'd like to see how this thing actually works. But alas! Something like this was already invented! It's name- marijuana. It sounds like you make someone trippy in their sleep w/o narcotics w/ this machine. Just an observation
What if it... (Score:2, Interesting)
IE: What would happen if the 'net connection were to dropped during a suggestive state.. would we become vegatables?
What if the screen skipped.. would we wake up with a stutter? Or what if the content was hacked and tomorrow we all woke up and found ourselves transferring our money to some off-shore account and killing or neighbors?
I know this sounds far fetched... But in reality, if the content was hacked and a idea or suggestion was implanted into the imagery.. how long (if ever) would it take to be discovered? And when it was.. would it be to late? Who would be responsible?
Hell, maybe the message can reprogram your mind to never see the message in the first place.
All your bases belong to us!
Camera? (Score:4, Insightful)
Found a Picture (Score:1)
Re:Found a Picture (Score:2, Informative)
But posting a correctly formed URL so it works is more important.
The correct link is HERE [philips.com]
Re:Found a Picture (Score:1)
Dream inducer isn't the right term (Score:2)
Sure, you wouldn't have the same dreams, but you'd be damn sure having a sex dream if you ordered a sex dream pattern, or a nightmare if you ordered a nightmare pattern. That'd be pretty nifty, and it seems pretty plausible given modern technology.
Now, if they could tap into our visual centres a bit easier, we'd be able to get product placement, or even our favorite shows in our sleep. Television takes up four hours from our day, so putting TV into the 8 hours when we're drooling vegetables already might be a better alternative, for advertisers and TV stations alike.
In fact, when we're asleep odds are we won't be flipping channels, and ratings will be much easier to grab.
Call me old fashioned... (Score:1)
Joke? (Score:2)
Picture (Score:1)
Anyone see that futureama (Score:1)
Enrich going to bed? (Score:2)
"an interactive projection system designed to enrich the experience of going to bed,..."
Now maybe I'm just old fashion, but the way I see it, we already have something that enriches the experience of going to bed. They're called girls! Going to bed is much nicer when you've got a soft skinned hard body to curl up next to..
With a database on the internet... (Score:1)
Help Philips stole my Brain ! (Score:1)
QUAKE!!! (Score:1)
Magic Lantern (Score:1)
Hopefully... (Score:1)
SETI@dream (Score:2, Funny)
Instead turn it into a disturbed number crunching project by hooking up all those "unused" brain power while you sleep. Imagine running SETI@home code in your dream... now you can never be sure whether you were abducted by aliens or just received their signal in your brain
Link to Philips Site (Score:2)
Wow. (Score:1)
Mmmmmm.... Kinky.
I was a beta tester for this! (Score:5, Funny)
I was skeptical of this thing at first but once I relaxed and began to accept what was given to me, I found that I had a greater level of peace and serenity both in sleep and while awake. Clearly this level of mental and emotional peace has aided in my understanding various aspects of life that I simply couldn't see before.
1. Bill Gates is NOT the devil. HE is an innovator in the truest sense of the word. Sure he "borrows" ideas from other sources, but don't we all? Isn't the doorknob a variation on the wheel? I see nothing wrong with enhancing the existing world by extending it. But since the extension cannot live or exist without the root portion of the technology, it's only fair that Microsoft should own whatever they extend, even if it was free to begin with. You're just angry because you didn't think of it first.
2. Politics are no longer confusing for me. The motivations of the government favoring larger corporations makes compelte sense to me now. First of all, it's in the interest of the people that the government hand over control to distributed corporate interests. Think of it! Now instead of electing our government, we can buy stock in it! What could be more democratic or capitalistic than that?
3. Of course the automotive and energy industries have been sitting on technologies that could reduce our use of fossil fuels!! But is it a bad thing? I think not! Those fossil fuels are a poison to our planet and need to be burned up as quickly and as often as possible. Once we clear those contaminants out of the way, we can move on to a cleaner, more pure world! So instead of crying about the cost of fuel, use it all up so we can move on to better sources. By the time we're done with all those fossil fuels, our corporate leaders will have found a way to measure out our use of hydro, thermal, solar and hydrogen based energy usage so that it is fair and equitable for everyone. The fact that they occur naturally is no reason to cheapen them with low value assessments [low prices]. And again, what's good for our corporate leaders is definitely good for us in the end.
I encourage everyone to get involved with this enlightening new technology. It's amazing how a good night's sleep can enlighten your day.
ok i saw the pic's (Score:1)
A picture of the product (Score:4, Informative)
--SC
Oh wow... (Score:1, Redundant)
nyeh (Score:2)
Save your $500 and buy Nicoderm patches. (Score:4, Funny)
Why waste your money on elaborate internet-connected electronics? There are plenty of things you can do to "enhance" your dream state.
1) Nicoderm Transdermal Patches. If worn during sleep, they have the tendency to cause very interesting and detailed dreams/nightmares. The only downside here is that you cant determine in advance which will happen. You could have an awesome dream, or, you could have a titanically bad nightmare. More interestingly, the number of patches you wear at night correlates directly with the vividness of the dream you have.
2) Self-Hypnosis. $4.95 and a self-help book from Borders will give you everything you need to know to make yourself a porn star during sleep. The content of your dreams is largely determined by what you think about just before you go to sleep. Entering a state of deep relaxation while concentrating on gonzo Roman orgies will do the trick most of the time.
3) Drugs. More adventurous and stupid people take drugs before going to sleep to produce interesting dreams. Drugs are bad, mmkay?
3) The monitor trick. Sleep with the back-end of a couple large computer monitors or TV's near your head. Turn the volume off, point the display away from you, and run a screenblanker on each display. The EMF produced by the monitors may be significant enough to affect brainwave patterns. Good for wacky dreams.
Cheers,
Re:Save your $500 and buy Nicoderm patches. (Score:1)
So taking drugs is a bad idea, and puts you in the stupid category. But irradiating your head with high doses of EMR is a good idea?
(Btw, nicotine... also a drug.)
Dream Pillows (Score:2)
I'm told that many folks stop using these, so vivid are the dreams thereby created. I've not gotten together the ingredients to try it out yet, so cannot offer my own experiences.
An idea I've had is to brew up a batch of mead with the herbs as flavouring. It could then be distilled and another batch of herbs steeped in it to make a tincture. This tincture could then be used to fortify a second batch of the mead. One could then drink several glasses of the mead and go to sleep with the pillow at one's head. I can only imagine the dreams which might be produced thereby.
The recipe is from The Home Brewer's Companion, by Charlie Papazian. Excellent book.
Re:Save your $500 and buy Nicoderm patches. (Score:2)
1) Nicoderm Transdermal Patches. If worn during sleep, they have the tendency to cause very interesting and detailed dreams/nightmares. The only downside here is that you cant determine in advance which will happen. You could have an awesome dream, or, you could have a titanically bad nightmare. More interestingly, the number of patches you wear at night correlates directly with the vividness of the dream you have.
skip...
3) Drugs. More adventurous and stupid people take drugs before going to sleep to produce interesting dreams. Drugs are bad, mmkay?
Mmkay.
The Money Shot!!! (Score:2)
I imagine it would be fun to have one of these in your guest bedroom. It would be a great way to make people go home early.
If my Mother-in-law were staying over, I might pipe "Pearl Necklace" into her room at two or three in the morning. Or maybe a German scat video. Or a video feed from the next room. Oh, the posibilities....
It reminds me... (Score:2)
The future is here, folks.
Aaaah, imagine the possibilities... (Score:2, Insightful)
Yay!!!! (Score:2, Insightful)
Brave New World, Here We Come... (Score:2)
Incidentally, I always considered BNW far, far scarier than 1984. Huxley's dystopia was more frightening and more bleak than was Orwell's. More realistic, too--I can see it happening. Rule them with pleasure, and they will not revolt.
Detecting sleep (Score:2)
Hmm... (Score:2)
Already, I fall asleep (or attempt to) to the TV going, because my SO needs it on to fall asleep to. At first, slight noises on the TV (even when the volume was turned waaay down) would cause me to wake up - but since that time I have gotten used to it. Still, it isn't the best thing, but I tolerate it (earplugs and one of those eye pillow things help).
Anyhow, what would be better than this, if you wanted to "mess" with your dreams, would be something I have thought about playing with, but right now it is a back burner project.
How about messing with the REM stage? We have all seen those alpha brainwave machines (there are tons of plans on the internet as well - some even on my site) - what if you made a similar system, with the lights and sounds (using headphones, etc) to be triggered during REM sleep (using some kind of sensors on the eyelids to sense the REM stage) - see what can happen.
I have also wondered about using one of those devices (or just headphones) to have a computer monitor REM sleep, then speak a keyword (or story) to trigger lucid dreaming (now there is fun dreaming). Perhaps even give cues to control the lucid dream. If there could be feedback to the computer from the dreamer - dream games might be a possibility (maybe via brainwave monitoring, or other monitoring systems?)...
The possibilities for such a system - wow...
Re:which reminds me.... (Score:1)