Computer Chips Exploding for Science 183
Judebert writes "While some may argue that any modern processor without a heat sink already exhibits this behavior, UCSD chemists have discovered that properly doped computer chips are actually explosive. Standard techniques are used, and they function just like normal computer chips.
Better yet, they burn clean, making them ideal for chemical analysis. The article sites other uses, such as micromachine propulsion and military explosives, but I imagine this woudl make for the ultimate in copy protection, as well: "Unauthorized copy detected. This system will self-destruct in 10... 9..."
Science Daily also has a copy."
Watch out for that pentium bug! (Score:4, Funny)
7... 6... 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... 0.00000000198
Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of THOSE! (Score:1, Funny)
echo boom >
done
Re:Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of THOSE! (Score:5, Funny)
So... (Score:1)
Computer Manufacturers (Score:2, Funny)
Customer: My computer exploded!
Tech Support: Guess you have to get a new one.
Customer: Yeah! Here's $1000 for a new one!
Unethical computer manufacturers could get a lot of money out of this. And 1337 HAX0rZ can blow up people's computers.
Eeesh (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Eeesh (Score:2)
It's not just for dialup, DSL comes over phone lines thus surge protecting that stuff is also a good idea. If you have cable modem, then you can also surge protect that [whe.org] (probably a good idea to surge protect your cable TV line even if you don't have a cable modem). Plus, you should surge protect ethernet (BP280s [apcc.com] as well as others have this) around servers and if you're sharing a LAN maybe with a neighbor or something like that.
So what happens if there's a bug? (Score:1)
Re:So what happens if there's a bug? (Score:1)
Re:So what happens if there's a bug? (Score:1)
Duh
Geeks must be terrorists (Score:3, Funny)
flying (Score:2, Interesting)
Seriously, what are the possibilities of using this to cause life threatening explosions?
Re:flying (Score:2, Funny)
Well, on its own the chip's explosion would almost certainly not be life-threatening. However, you could theoretically use this as a catalyst to detonate a high-order explosive.
Your laptops should be safe on airlines, folks. Pretty much the only way to make this dangerous would be to wrap a brick of Semtex around it (which the airports already have sniffer-dogs to detect), or build a chip so large that it releases enough energy to do serious damage. Explaining a laptop the size of a blackboard would be difficult, I think.
"No really, it's for doing some serious number-crunching..."
Re:flying (Score:2, Funny)
"I swear, officer, it's my [slashdot.org]
iBook with 14' screen!"
Correction (Score:1)
damn! (Score:2, Funny)
so... when does slashdot get a bat boy [weeklyworldnews.com] story icon?
Re:damn! -Porno popup (Score:1, Informative)
Re:damn! -Porno popup (Score:1)
nothing at all - in fact, i don't even see them, since i click "no" when konqueror asks me if i want to allow a javascript popup to open or not.
the fucking enormous image in the middle of the page, on the other hand, is relevant in a humorous way.
Re:damn! (Score:2)
The article starts out thusly:
It only gets better from there.
For the uninitiated, WWN is THE cheesiest, worst supermarket tabloid ever. It's always good for a laugh or two, and sometimes I miss it here in Europe. It makes the Sun and the National Enquirer both look like the pinnacles of objective and researched journalism. Lots of stories on two-headed cyclops cannibal babies with 280 IQs and the ability to channel Nostradamus.
woof.
Don't bother modding this. It ain't funnier than the parent, it ain't that informative and there's enough other comments out there more deserving of your mod points. Oh, and I'm capped. And 25% of my last 24 comments are already Score:5.
Overclocking (Score:1)
Been there... (Score:1)
A corner of the chip 'chipped' off and left a mark in the desk when it he. Good thing I wasn't in the way.
Re:Been there... (Score:3, Interesting)
I had to remove a flash chip from a socket, but couldn't find the right tool, so I grabbed an 8 inch soldering pick (the kind that look like dentists tools) and proceeded to lift the flash. Unbeknownst to me, I bridged the tool to the unrectified (110V AC) power supply exposed at the switch of my dev board.
Zap! Flash! Bang!
Tossed my sorry ass about three feet backwards while the flash chip burst into flames and jumped about a foot into the air
Oops
Tim
Re:Been there... (Score:2)
That is why they call them Flash chips, you know.
--Blair
"Mulling over 'No Score +1 Bonus' checkbox just now...although 'Post Anonymously' would probably be safer..."
AMD (Score:1)
Survey method biased (Score:2)
What, judging by the fact that intel.com gets more hits than baywatch.com?
Re:Survey method biased (Score:2, Informative)
Laptops on airplanes (Score:1)
No, No, Don't Let Them Hear You! (Score:2)
Over the years we've had to have laptops sent through the Xray machines in our bags, taken out of our bags and sent through on the conveyor by themselves, back in the bags but vertical so they don't mask other things, taken out and turned on, taken out and explained that this model doesn't use batteries so you can only turn it on if you can plug it in, and to do that you'll need to unplug their X-Ray machine because there aren't any outlets nearby, and they're making you take off your hats, coats, pagers, cellphones, radios, palmpilots, shoes, eyeglasses, belts, piercings, bluejeans with copper rivets in them, artificial hip joints, metal-braced lingerie, car keys, buttons with comments about government harassment, and shiny things in general.
I've had people at San Jose Airport ask me if my bag had a laptop in it - like DUUHHHH - this is San Jose, is there anybody here carrying a bag that *doesn't* have a laptop in it? If they want to ask if I've got an interesting laptop, fine :-) They don't seem to have figured out laser pointers yet... But if they even HEAR about exploding microprocessors, it won't be possible to travel at all.
At least I didn't have a laptop with me the time I was bringing my nephews a KG of Silly Putty in clear baggies with 500g each
Re:No, No, Don't Let Them Hear You! (Score:2)
no, i don't have mod points... so I just want to let these people know they aren't reading the second or third comment down from the story.
Just like Inspector Gadget ... (Score:1)
Star Trekkin... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Star Trekkin... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Star Trekkin... (Score:2)
I've had a chip explode (Score:1)
Great... just great... (Score:1, Redundant)
Re:Great... just great... (Score:1, Offtopic)
Explosion? (Score:3, Insightful)
I agree that things like modern engines work by having mini explosions that push pistons up/down etc., but *in general* explosions are not a very efficient way to power things. Witness the fact that the human body does not burn/explode glucose, but rather goes through aerobic respiration to oxidize it.
So, um, how exactly does this stuff get used in controlled explosions as a continuous power source?
Re:Explosion? (Score:1)
Some engineering school or another designed micro-thrusters that sat on a chip, ideal for microsatellites. The basic premise was that some of the chip junctions would burn through at a controlled time, allowing for a tiny little burst of propulsion. Perhaps it's one of these?
Re:Explosion? (Score:2, Funny)
You too can do your part to save the environment by eating a can of beans a night.
Re:Explosion? (Score:1)
Terrorist threat? (Score:2)
Two pen taps and the plane would go boom.
I think the government should regulate everything from Cell phones to Computers. Make it so everytime you go buy electronics, you must show your ID in order to purchase it; then interrogate the person if they don't have their card on them.
Re:Terrorist threat? (Score:1)
Re:Terrorist threat? (Score:1)
"Those who express random thoughts to legislative committees are often surprised and appalled to find themselves the instigators of law." -- Mark B. Cohen
Re:Terrorist threat? (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:Idiot (Score:2)
Think and read before you post.
Re:Terrorist threat? (Score:2)
practical uses (Score:2, Informative)
Energy source? The article said it produced a clean burning flame. Could the reaction be slowed down? Could we produce cheap energy from plentiful silicon?
Re:practical uses (Score:1)
Sorry, sir, the CRM114 was damaged in the explosion and blew itself up.
Re:practical uses (Score:1)
I would venture a practical use of this phenomenon to be in detonating explosives. A blasting cap with a couple different sensors with microcode instructions explaining what situations to explode in. Very useful. Make the inputs for the sensors standard and then you could pick from a whole variety and use the same set up. Very little training there. An artificially intelligent landmine with RF detection, IR whatever you want.
Re:(im)practical uses (Score:2)
Now imagine building silicon explosives into export equipment. Some fellow sitting back at CIA HQ launches Son of SirCam - within 12 hours, desktops all over Iraq are blowing up.
The ultimate Denial of Service attack.
They already do that. (Score:2, Interesting)
I am a news photographer... one afternoon when a B-1 bomber went down in a Kentucky cow field, the plane exploded into tiny, tiny shreds. Thankfully, the pilot and the crew ejected and were unharmed. Unfortunately, several cows didn't make it.
One of the most interesting moments that followed in the media cavalcade happened a day later. A man drove out of the woods with a pickup and dropped off a large, man-sized bent piece of metal, which according to the DoD was the larest piece of the plane left. It was the heavy steel dash of the cockpit that holds the hundreds of tiny dials the pilots read. No dials, but a lot of steel.
Trust me, the DoD does its homework when it comes to keeping its avionics secret.
I have no doubt in my mind that our plane that got captured in China revealed as little as possible to the Chinese Gov't. I realistically believe that they learned very little from taking that plane apart. They certainly didn't get any software to run the equipment, that is for sure. And the software is the real heart of any surveilance system.
In answer to making microchips explode, I would believe there are much better, more certain ways of destroying microprocessors and leave no readable trace.
Your idea has good merit for tiny processors or espionage equipment, that isn't practical for carrying its own destruct. Its also a great idea for sabotage.
Re:They already do that. (Score:3, Interesting)
That, of course, does much more damage than just a chip explosion. I've only seen one exploded chip--the SCSI controller on an MVME2700 (Motorola) blew about a quarter of the area and half the depth out. I was kinda reassured when I looked at my own board and saw that it had a different model chip in that spot. I don't think it could have killed anyone put it certianly could have done some serious damage to an eye if you leaned over to plug the chassis in. (I wish I had the picture handy, put I don't)
Hurrah! (Score:1)
(Uh oh, here comes the modstick...)
How about... (Score:1)
Burning fast = explosive (Score:1)
ducks...
that makes sense (Score:1)
And all this time I thought Sadam just liked playing video games
New? (Score:1)
Finally modern science has decided to catch up
Actually... (Score:2)
Ouch (Score:3, Funny)
Hmm... (Score:1)
Also, what kind of hsf would you have to use so it doesn't overheat and self-destruct ?
Question...? (Score:1)
Can you gear the chips to explode only after going through a certain set of logic gates? I mean, how useful is a self-destructing chip if it self destructs before its even used?
At any rate, I can definitely see this as incentive for me to get my password right within three tries./p>
It isn't that bad.... (Score:4, Informative)
The primary problem with this material is nobody understands it either chemically or physically. We have a list of stuff you can do with it, but no model to predict other effects.
This is pretty cool, though....
other explosives in chip manufacture (Score:1)
Intel is tha bomb! (Score:1)
READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE (Score:5, Funny)
Sounds like a bad '80's movie... (Score:1)
Runaway (1984) [imdb.com]
military uses (Score:2)
abandon the helicopter,aircraft,tank,spy vehicle? on the way out hit the destruct button... first the eeproms and all circuts explode then the vehicle leaving nothing behind for the enemy to reverse engineer...
Or better yet... instead of the musical greeting card.... the maiming greeting card.... for your ex's and last employer....
Oh wait... that's illegal... nevermind.
NeXT Cube Owners (Score:1)
Of course, NeXTWORLD Editor Simson Garfinkel's quasi-sick obsession [simson.net] proved that it's not easy to light one of these cases up, but he hadn't reckoned with the awesome power of an exploding processor.
Vaporware (Score:2, Funny)
Could this . . (Score:1)
Re:Could this . . (Score:2)
Hard Drives could become a dangerous issue if we find out they can actually go off their motor and fly out of their casing towards unsuspecting objects, creatures, or people.
Viruses (Score:1)
Sounds like a recall waiting to happen... (Score:1)
Virus potential (Score:1)
Its not for computer chips (Score:1)
ALSO, it takes chilling the porous silicon down to LIQUID OXYGEN temperatures...yeah, so liquid oxygen is dangerous enough!
Old news (Score:2)
Other Silicon Devices? (Score:1)
Hard disks not so likely I guess.
Re:Other Silicon Devices? Actually... (Score:1)
Strange stuff if you ask me.
Re: (Score:1)
Ive seen this before, well almost..... (Score:2)
When I was about 12(81 or so) my dad brought me slews of stuff from work to scrap parts off of, LONG story short he took all the lithium batteries on the boards I was given, several had them, their engineer had to pick shards of PCB ut of his arm after he shorted one, (This was beore they had an internal "breaker") ,
A couple of years ago I was short on cash so, I decided to sell my IMSAI , well I went to power it up to test it so I could say, "Working Condition"
Well shit started blowing everywhere, caps going off like firecrackers, kinda makes me wonder whats going to happen when I fire up my 386 in 20 years to show my son
Lends a whole new meaning... (Score:2, Funny)
Martian Technology! (Score:5, Funny)
Lookout Marvin!
ttyl
Farrell
Original Paper (Score:2, Informative)
The abstract is online: Scroll down to 38-41: Explosive Nanocrystalline Porous Silicon and Its Use in Atomic Emission Spectroscopy [wiley.com].
Can't read the full article tho', unless you subscribe...visit your local library and ask for it.
Consequences of this in light of Sept 11th (Score:1)
Re:Consequences of this in light of Sept 11th (Score:2)
It never actually did. Just put the explosive into the (removable) CD-Rom drive, and by just booting the laptop, the attendant will be none the wiser. Or if he is persisting enough to also test the CD-Rom drive, just make a Laptop battery which is one half battery, and the other half explosive.
Putting some teeth into Product Activation (Score:2)
This copy of Windows has already been activated on another computer. Self-destruct sequence activated.
We hope Hell is where you wanted to go today.
Sincerely,
The Microsoft Windows Team
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I can already see my inbox... (Score:2)
It is very serious an if not detected can cause your computer chip to explode, which will also explode your computer.
Please forward this on to everybody you know as soon as possible. Remember this is very important."
:)
Weekly World News already covered this (Score:1)
BSOD... (Score:2)
Computer crashed? Well, you better get the hell out of the room.
The BSOD is always the last thing you see.
Kernel oops? oops, pick your case out of your stomach.
[i know this doesn't work on existing chips... but I couldn't help it]
Bummer. No More Termite (Score:1, Interesting)
This is well known... (Score:2)
Exploding LEDs (Score:2)
So basically, if you want to try this at home kids, get a few junk jumbo LEDs, a 5 volt non-switching power supply, and if you're smart, a nailboard to pop them from a distance.
Oh yeah, chips too. (Score:2)
Machine language (Score:3, Funny)
HCF - Halt and Catch Fire
XOI - Execute Operator Immediately
I discovered this over 10 years ago. (Score:2)
Take your computer's AC cord. Cut off the end that plugs into the computer.
Strip the wires.
Wrap one wire around the computer's chassis somewhere.
Wrap the other wire around a long screwdriver.
Plug it in, and then run the screwdriver up and down all the chips. Stick it in the slots, press it into the power connectors, jam it into the serial port. It's loads of fun - the chips actually explode! Don't wear safety glasses.
Don't just toss that old 286... blow it up first!
Moffet's Ghost (Score:2)
Oh, great (Score:2)
Now it's really going to be a bitch to use your laptop on an airplane...
"Did you pack your own bags?"
"Has anybody asked you to carry anything onboard the airplane?"
"Is that laptop running an Intel Pentium95 with ActiveDeath technology?"
Re:Magic? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Copy protection? That will never happen. (Score:1)
Check out this device [stickdeath.com].
Re:New level of tamper resistance (Score:1)
it's cool that I log into websotes,my computer and open my front door with the one in my ring!
One Ring to login to them all,
One Ring to unlock them,
One Ring to vaporize them all,
And with the explosion shock them.