
Take a Peek Inside the Dane-Elec Memory Plant 107
Megamuch writes: "The tweakers.net
guys got to take a tour inside the Dane-Elec memory factory in Ireland and have posted a pictorial tour of their trip. " They give a nice tour with lots of decent photos of the process that the comany goes through to package up chips. Fascinating stuff.
Re:Mmmmm... (Score:1)
Re:DO NOT VISIT TWEAKERS.NET (Score:2, Funny)
Re:DO NOT VISIT TWEAKERS.NET (Score:1)
Really cheap, too (Score:1, Informative)
The Dane-Elec "DDR 512MB" CAS 2 seems to be the best deal I've seen anywhere: $102.00.
Now I can get it without worrying who this "no name" company is
Re:Really cheap, too (Score:1)
I've seen these before (Score:1)
I love how space age technologies trickly down into everyday use.
because caucasians are just to damn tall. (Score:1)
Re:because caucasians are just to damn tall. (Score:2)
Or more specifically from what I've seen, asian womanpower. They're damn good with their hands. Even at the York (heating/air conditioning manf) company there were only asian women handling the delicate stuff like wiring up switchboxes.
Re:because caucasians are just to damn tall. (Score:2)
racist "
Not to feed the trolls but my wife is from Thailand, so I think I can call asian people asian people. Go back to trolling little man.
Re:because caucasians are just to damn tall. (Score:3, Interesting)
Automated placement of large through-hole parts is generally not feasible because:
Even some surface mount parts are installed by hand - you'd be amazed. Any kind of custom connector or non-standard package is probably installed by hand, even for volume production. SO-DIMM sockets, for example, are installed by hand - they have little plastic guide pins to align them.
Advanced testing methods (Score:2, Funny)
Old 486 machines, laptops and dual CPU servers are sometimes running Quake III for days and days. All this to be sure that things don't crash due to a faulty memory module.
Do they have job openings?
Do they manufacture spell checkers? (Score:1)
Re:Do they manufacture spell checkers? (Score:1)
Also ... (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Also ... (Score:3, Informative)
It can be akin to calling Cuba the "U.S.A." or Israel "Saudi Arabia" in terms of social faux pas...
OT: Dan electro (Score:1)
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for lazy people (Score:1)
Ah, finally.... (Score:3, Funny)
tweakers.net routinely handles about one million hits a day, go check their Statistics [tweakers.net] page, or check out some pictures [tweakers.net] of their servers and server room.
Ofcourse the text is in Dutch, but I think you can read stats and view pictures in Dutch right :)
Re:Ah, finally.... (Score:1)
Translation (Score:1)
TrueServer is where they have their servers co-located. I think tweakers.net itself is 'just' on a 100Mbit link.
Re:Ah, finally.... (Score:2)
The sentence below that (about the Juniper router) translates into this:
"Not many Dutch hosting farms can match such network connectivity. The TrueServer network runs on Juniper M20 routers and core-switches from Extreme Networks"
So it's not exactly what you thought it meant - it's more like, they have a veeeeeeeeeeeeeery large bandwidth, with several upstream providers (so if, for example, KPNQwest files for chapter 11 - which they did in case you don't know - they don't have any problem at all
Re:Ah, finally.... (Score:3, Informative)
why are memory factories in ireland? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:why are memory factories in ireland? (Score:3, Informative)
The argument for keeping the work from going to
Asia is that for R&D and smaller development the
higer price point is worth it for higher standards
and the ease of communication afforded by working
with people whose native language is English.
Don't read any bias into the above comments, it's
what I'm told from working in the IT industry,
and yes, I've seen projects go to Wipro and
similar places.
(I'm a software engineer for a Canadian company
and my housemate works for a memory/disk
manufacturer. Location: Northern Ireland)
Re:why are memory factories in ireland? (Score:1)
Re:why are memory factories in ireland? (Score:3, Informative)
You also need a fairly well educated populace for a fab -- if you just take people with grade school educations they aren't likely to follow the very strict guidelines on cleanliness, dresscode, and operational procedures because they just don't understand what they're working with, and how easily it is to destroy. One worker can singlehandedly destroy several million dollars in production in a single day. So most fabs want educated workers (I dunno that this is necessarily a plus or minus for Ireland over SE Asia, just something to consider).
Finally, one huge plus for Ireland over SE Asia is language. Most (all?) Irish speak English, so when a manager from the US comes over they can ask a worker and not have to go through translation (well... ok... depends on how heavy an accent, but I bet you'll have more success than you would in SE Asia).
Re:why are memory factories in ireland? (Score:2, Informative)
* Inside EU zone
* Insize Euro currency zone
* Natives speak English as first language
* Good coroporate tax rates (10%)
* Wages less than US and some parts of EU (althogh
they are rising)
* Time zone difference to US less than that of rest
of Europe
* Education system is well respected.
* Guinness
Not that exciting.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Not that exciting.... (Score:2)
OT: Odd picture on first page (Score:1, Offtopic)
If you don't see it, look closer, you'll see what I mean,- the chairs are red.
Now, I've been in quite a few business jets, actually, but I've never seen one with chairs like that.
Re:OT: Odd picture on first page (Score:1, Insightful)
Man!!!! (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Man!!!! (Score:3, Informative)
Did they fire you for being an id10t? IBM used Teradyne testers [teradyne.com] to test the DRAM because they were manufacturing chips not modules. Besides, the Teradynes have a very high throughput and allow a great deal of control over the testing environment. Somehow I don't think that throwing a module into a computer and running Quake 3 for a while gives much of an opportunity for quantity or quality of testing.
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Cheers Slashdot (Score:1)
Now, Im not dissing slashdot for posting the earlier article, Im just saying that some times it can be very interesting to go out and have a look around these places to see just how such and such corp make somthing, ie, big machines going real fast, really demonstrate how capitalism works.
You can palm me off as just being some loser but IMHO it is the coalface of our society more then wall sheet or some building full of office clerks. And should be given as much consideration as say rumours of Apple buying SGI or whatever.
So, way to go slashdot, Perhaps you could post a few more articles like this in the future when news is slow. Almost as fun as reading howstuffworks.com.
Q3 on a 486? (Score:1)
lol, I wanna see Q3a on a 486 DX/4 120 with 128MB EDO and a GeForce 4MX PCI! considering Q1 was running at 5fps on a DX/2 66 with a 1MB orchid VLB card...
Re:Q3 on a 486? (Score:1)
I also never saw a 486 motherboard capable of supporting 128 megs of ram, though some specialized server chipsets may be able to.
ARticle (Score:3, Informative)
Yeah. And overclockers re right.
A solder oven heats the board assembly slowly and uniformly.
It's large thermal gradiants that kill chips... differnet parts of the chip at different temperatures introduce evil physical stresses that mess up the guts.
Just like putting a person in hot water.. I believe tests have shown that humans can endure some crazy hot temperatures if they are heated slowly.
Re:ARticle (Score:1)
I believe it were frogs that were tested , when heating the water slowly they boiled alive and when they were put in hot water they jumped out.
Tweakers and Netscape (Score:1)
Re:Tweakers and Netscape (Score:1)
Not 100% tested? (Score:2)
Re:Not 100% tested? (Score:3, Insightful)
The quick test tells you if the board stuffing is working correctly (and you want to know this quickly to prevent further waste), and the longer test looks for hidden defects in a statistical sample.
Wow! (Score:1)