GRACE Exceeds Expectations! 211
smashr writes "GRACE, the robot mentioned earlier on slashdot, has succeeded in the AAAI challenge at the conference in Canada. Her creators are saying that GRACE exceeded their expectations. The entire competition went well with only several minor hiccups (GRACE cut in front of a judge in line to register, and then demanded a conference badge several times). The team is looking forward towards refining GRACE for the competition in Mexico. Stories at: CNN.com, Yahoo, and the Edmonton Journal."
Major failing of GRACE (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Major failing of GRACE (Score:1, Troll)
Re:Major failing of GRACE (Score:2)
basically it was huge and silly
it did nothing well at all apparently
thats what you get for an all digital solution where you program in rules
regards
John Jones
Re:Major failing of GRACE (Score:3, Funny)
plan b) for naming GRACE: bender.
Re:Major failing of GRACE (Score:1)
Bite my shiney metal ass!
Schmoozing? (Score:3, Funny)
Schmoozing & Bender (Score:2, Funny)
I'd love them to have a robot that emulates Bender from Futurama.
He swill champagne, enjoy a cigar or two... try and chat up the other contestants, and make some of the judges he isn't sure about have a accident or two.
Re:Schmoozing? (Score:1)
That's one flirtatious babe! Can't wait to see her "Schmoozing" skills in Acapulco!
Just remember, if she ever offers to give you a lapdance, just say "no". And no touching of heatsinks!
Blind leading the blind (Score:4, Funny)
Relax, it's a joke.
Re:Blind leading the blind (Score:1)
[insert intelligent comment here] (Score:2, Insightful)
I don't know (Score:2)
You've seen the Terminator movies and The Matrix too many times.
Good scifi- not reality.
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Re:I don't know (Score:2)
Anyways, we all know that technological predictions are 100% accurate. As living proof, I'm writing this post on one of the only 5 computers in the world, and I never come close even touching the 640K ceiling.
Re:I don't know (Score:2)
Not too many.
I do not subscribe to the Skynet fears that pop up about here so regularly. Mostly because I think we are so very much further from that kind of capability in a machine- than the optimists hope.
but even if 'thinking' machines are near, I'm not too worried that immediately following prescience will be an overwhelming desire to wipe out humanity. Much too silly.
Re:I don't know (Score:2)
Re:[insert intelligent comment here] (Score:1)
Humans learn to use violence as a problem solving technique through early interaction with other humans. Unless the robot was *programmed* to be violent, or was capable of learning by itself AND was introduced to social situations where violence was used, we wouldn't have to worry about it.
Re:[insert intelligent comment here] (Score:2, Informative)
Read it.
It's good for you like soup.
You can obtain a copy at your local book store, library or eBook Warez IRC channel (though the former is preferred to the later).
Re:[insert intelligent comment here] (Score:1)
Re:[insert intelligent comment here] (Score:1)
Re:[insert intelligent comment here] (Score:4, Insightful)
The very top of the line research in AI might be able to recognize a human being under idealized circumstances.
So how are we supposed to tell our robots "don't run over a human's foot, since that's injuring a human, and that action violates the first law" when the robot can't distinguish between a human foot and a stain on the carpet.
Doug
Re:[insert intelligent comment here] (Score:3, Funny)
Listen. Understand. GRACE is out there. She can't be reasoned with, she can't be bargained with...she doesn't feel pity of remorse or fear... and she absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until you are dead.
Cutting in line and being demanding... (Score:4, Funny)
Sounds about normal for a lot of people. In fact the blatant disregard for others should earn it points for being more human than necessary.
GRACE could easily get tenure at my old university (Score:3, Funny)
Apparently, the only things she didn't do was grab somebody's ass while reeking of yesterday's wine. But hey, schmoozing skills in next version, yeah?
Clearly professor material!
Grace's love is real (Score:1)
Reject Artificiality!
tcd004
Re:Grace's love is real (Score:1)
Hmm, that is startling growth! She started out weighing nothing and without any height.
157 pounds and 4.5 feet in 3 years -- (calculating) -- at this rate, by the year 2014, she will be 785 pounds, and 22 feet 6 inches tall!
This enormous monster will devour us all!!!
Re:Grace's love is real (Score:2)
Are those successes or failures? (Score:3, Interesting)
Seriously though. By those criteria, half the human race might fail.
A paradox (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:A paradox (Score:2)
Not a Sci-Fi convention, though. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Not a Sci-Fi convention, though. (Score:2)
fascinating (Score:3, Insightful)
Look at how far we've come. The mechanics for her locomotion are only about a century old. The silicon electronical parts of her brains have only been around a few decades. And I'm even calling her "her!" She's a machine! That a handful of scientists and antisocial grad students have accomplished what it took evolution millions of years to do (create life) gives me hope for the future of mankind.
As I look at these articles, I'm reminded of what my parents told me: "You can do anything." And now I'm realizing that that wasn't just "you" as in "me" (tps12), but also "you" as in the entire human race. We are reaching for the stars, we are playing with the origins of life and the very fabric of our Universe. We are playing God. If we don't end up destroying ourselves in the process, then we're in for one hell of a ride.
Re:fascinating (Score:3, Funny)
Re:fascinating (Score:2, Interesting)
I find it interesting that people on /. seem to think that grad students
are somehow less sociable than the average computer
geek.
Actually, as I look around at my particular institution, I would have to say, that on the whole, of my friends who have achieved a BS in Comp Sci, those who've gone on to graduate school are no more antisocial than the rest.
In fact, a lot of the grad students I know are far more normal than the average undergrad computer geek.
I think people overlook one of the keys to successful academic career: the importance of being able to communicate your work effectively to others. Being good at coding, maths, etc is also necessery, but can almost be secondary. If noone understands your work, it doesn't matter how good it is. So if you're antisocial, you learn to deal with it and work on inter-personal skills. Otherwise you subvert your own work.
Beings that surpass their creators? (Score:5, Funny)
A Rudebot? (Score:2, Funny)
I'm too cool for a sig...
Re:A Rudebot? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:A Rudebot? (Score:2)
If you are used to driving in Canada and then drive around in Michigan for a day, you will understand how true this is.
Re:A Rudebot? (Score:2)
Well they didn't want her standing around and saying 'eh all the time.
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Now..... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Now..... (Score:1)
Does anyone know ? (Score:1, Interesting)
a priori or does it have to figure out this
stuff itself ?
Re:Does anyone know ? (Score:1)
Re:Does anyone know ? (Score:1)
Amazing achievement but... (Score:2)
Re:Amazing achievement but... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Amazing achievement but... (Score:1)
For one view of this, watch the DVD for A.I. (Artificial Intelligence) by Spielberg/Kubrick.
Re:Amazing achievement but... (Score:2)
For a far more entertaining perspective watch some Red Dwarf on TV (or read the excellent books Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers and Better Than Life). Pay particular attention to the bits about Talkie Toaster, they are hilarious.
Re:Amazing achievement but... (Score:2)
Neither. They will be our tools. Like a vaccuum. Just a really smart vaccuum.
It's fun to anthropomorphize, but don't get carried away. PETA already has that market cornered for animals.
We don't need a People for the Ethical Treatment of Androids.
Re:Amazing achievement but... (Score:1)
What they're good at. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:What they're good at. (Score:5, Funny)
Don't know many scientists, eh?
There are very few who would be willing (to say nothing of able) to work in a hazardous or tiny confining environment.
What, like a cubicle?
m-
Re:What they're good at. (Score:1)
Re:What they're good at. (Score:1)
Right. So that means AI should end up doing their own software development too. :)
But why stop with only the jobs we're BAD at? For example: most plumbers, miners, and fisherman are good at what they do, but I bet they'd rather be doing something else.
I won't be happy until robots+AI are doing EVERYTHING most humans don't want to be doing themselves (so we have more time for eating, sleeping and fucking)... Ahh... the hedonistic imperitive... :)
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Re:What they're good at. (Score:1)
but I still think that robots/AI should primarily be designed and programmed to do things that humans are BAD at
Like working for the government? If all the robots get all those jobs were are all the stupid middle class people supposed to go?Re:What they're good at. (Score:2)
Re:What they're good at. (Score:2)
The trick is, robots need to be able to do things that humans are good at in order to do many things we are bad at. For example, humans make lousy temps. You often have to explain the instructions more than once, we make mistakes performing repetitous tasks, we hate menial work, etc. But in order to be a good temp, you need lots of human skills in order to interact with people.
Think of it this way, typical humans are bad, really bad, at interfacing with computers. Grace's social interface helps fill the gap between our inability to learn/remember arcane controls and whatever she does. In essence she is learning the arcane controls for us and providing a more friendly interface.
I think a case could be made that humans are in general better than autonomous machines at searching and performing delicate manipulations (with tools). It's just the dangerous environments in your example that rule us out. If we were to have the robots schmooze in a puddle of molten lava, we'd have the same quandry.
what kind of cognition/memory does GRACE have? (Score:1)
1)Does Grace remember which judge she cut in front of? Does she have memory of interactions, and what kind?
2) Does she self program?
3) why don't they at least give the poor girl some hair?
From the photos... (Score:2)
Can anyone enlighten me?
m-
I'll wait for RUDE (Score:2, Funny)
Utilizing
Demanding
Expectations
He'll have to cut the line to register for the conference before everyone else, take all the donuts, leave a coat and bag on the chair next to him even though the conference room is full, blab away on a cell phone during the presentation and leave 10 minutes early.
Multiple AP sources (Score:1, Interesting)
Ayn? Is that you? (Score:3, Funny)
Anyone else notice any similarities between GRACE and non-lebsian Ayn Rand? Consider:
Translation (Score:3, Funny)
Translation:
"Mounted on her body are several gizmos, including a laser range finder, sonar equipment, voice-recognition technology and an 89-cent speaker from Radio Shack."
Separated at Birth? (Score:2)
GRACE on TV (Score:2, Informative)
8 August: Grace may be on the Today show (not yet finalized).
That could be interesting.
Saving Grace (Score:1)
yeah but.. (Score:1)
So... What does an AI think of an AI? (Score:3, Funny)
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Me: What do you think of GRACE?
ELBOT: Are you taking a poll?
Me: I wouldn't call it a poll...
ELBOT: I realize this is a typical marketing question, but I'm supposed to ask it, otherwise they'll use the cheap oil on me. So, where did you find out about me?
Me: I knew about you since earlier.
ELBOT: Amazing! I must have underestimated your intellect!
Me: So... What do you think about GRACE?
ELBOT: My opinion on that matter is so revolutionary, I prefer to keep it to myself.
Me: I see chatterbots still have a long way to go.
ELBOT: Really? I could have sworn you missed that.
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So.. The only thing the bastard gave me was some rude answers and kept his opinions about GRACE top secret. Bah... So much for AI's.
Perhaps I should have asked good ol' Alice instead.
Budgets, schmudgets... (Score:1)
Couldn't stretch the budget to an umbrella? "And you will know me by the trail of eyeballs."
Ali
Not really autonomous (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Not really autonomous (Score:2)
What Grace really does is this (which is really cool, and she's still autonomous): Grace is capable of recognizing hand gestures, and programmed to ask for help if she gets lost. So rather than preprogrammed voice cues or hand signals, when Grace gets lost she will ask the nearest person "How do I get to conference room 23?" (or where ever she's supposed to be going) If the directions are clear, "Grace, you go straight down this hall, at the end of the hall you turn left, and conference room 23 is the third door on the right." Grace will follow them. She will also watch for hand gestures while you're giving directions. If something doesn't line up, like if you point right and you say to go left, she will ask you which you mean.
So Grace *is* autonomous, and put on quite an amazing performance!
Is there a military version then? (Score:1)
"Overall, I have to say it went very well," said Alan Schultz, from the U.S. Naval Research Lab in Washington, D.C. The lab was one of five U.S. institutions which contributed to GRACE's creation.
[...]
Mounted on her body are several gizmos, including a laser range finder, sonar equipment, voice-recognition technology and speech generation machinery.
Additionally, the navy version has two mounted General Electric M134 miniguns, triple mine dispensers and dual Stinger surface-to-air missile launchers. It is also rumored to be slightly more ill-tempered than the civilian version.
It ain't an AI... (Score:2)
Re:It ain't an AI... (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2, Funny)
For more in-depth info (Score:1)
Form fits function (Score:1)
Before we research further into making robots more humanoid, however, I think we should remember an old biology axiom: Form Fits Function. Even at today's level of technology, humans could never design a molecule as complex and efficient as a protein. Why do we act like we know better than God (or whatever you wish to believe) when it comes to creating things now?
A machines' design should be the most efficient for its specified task. Homo sapiens is a specialized species built for thinking. We don't need robots to take our place; we need robots to perform tasks that we are incapable of.
Re:Form fits function (Score:2)
geez - look around! if we can't do better than this might as well give up now.
(btw, I wouldn't worry just yet, it's not really AI, but a robot programmed for a specific task; god is safe for a few decades yet)
Re:Form fits function (Score:2)
Two other points come to mind, one: a 150 kilo, 2 meter tall barrel with a screen is hardly "humanoid shaped" and two: the "task" of this robot is to interract with humans - what form does god suggest for that function?
Robot gets vacation (Score:2, Funny)
Prototype (Score:1)
GRACE cut in front of a judge in line to register, and then demanded a conference badge several times
I see the prototype is using the brain of a typical american CEO/politician. Now if we only knew if they were asking for stock options or contributions, to figure out what type of brain they actually used.We're not going to be exterminated after all (Score:1)
The CNN Link... (Score:1)
After all, the computer in that (see it if you haven't) movie could be termed as having some AI leanings...
cutting in line... (Score:4, Interesting)
for (int i = 0; i<num_sensors; i++)
if (sensor_distance[i] < 5 inches)
motors = off;
I'm involved in a lot of robotics work, and while I believe that robots should eventually attain very intelligent behavior, I also believe that the first priority in programming a robot is to ensure it does not harm humans. By bumping a judge, GRACE has shown that it is not capable of functioning safely in society. If it bumps a judge, what's to keep it from running a judge over and killing him? Standard robots the size of GRACE are 300 lbs, quite capable of inflicting significant damage.
As a side note, most robots have touch sensors on their side panels that automatically shut off power to the motors when they are triggered. I'm willing to bet that this is what kept GRACE from running over the judge.
"Go ahead, make my day" (Score:2)
Experience with the HelpMate hospital delivery robot indicated that a bit of pushyness was needed, or the robot would be stalled by people standing and talking in corridors.
This is, as far as I know, a result not anticipated in science fiction.
Re:cutting in line... (Score:2)
There are billions of clumsy humans who run into people, too. Why do you expect an AI robot to OUTperform a human?
Figures (Score:2)
Re:cutting in line... (Score:2)
I don't see how that is not true.
Re: (Score:1)
Does this scare anyone else? (Score:2, Interesting)
Look how far we're coming, and how much quicker we're getting there. Five years from now who knows what this robot will be able to do. How long will it be before robots are serving us? How long before they're as intelligent as we are? How long before they're creating our music, our films, our art? I don't think humans could compete with a machine that knows all the right buttons to push.
And yeah, to feed the paranoid, how long until they surpass us, and realize that we're nothing more than a liability? I've said it before, and I'll say it again: down with technology, we should have stopped at the wheel!
Re:Does this scare anyone else? (Score:2)
How long before they're as intelligent as we are?
A very, very, VERY long time. While GRACE is very cool and definitely a great technical accomplishment, "she" is no closer to human intelligence than a toaster. It's a robot, programmed to perform a task; the tasks are getting more elaborate and the programming more tricky (and ingenuous), but none of this gets it any closer to intelligence. We'll be able to build a robot which behaves and interacts like a convincing human, long before we have even the faintest idea of how to build one that is even remotely intelligent. Emulation is simply not the same a duplication.
As far as music and movies go, it seems intelligence is no longer required to create those anyway.
Re:Does this scare anyone else? (Score:2)
combined with a lack of scientific insight. sorry, I'm feeling blunt, but this thread is just rampant with this nonsense. btw, by 'emulate' I meant that these machines are merely designed to "behave" in ways similar to humans, this behaviour doesn't arise out of any inherent intelligence.
kind of like the difference between a human constructed out of various body parts and reanimated (a la Dr. Frankenstein) and a wax figure with joints and a couple strings attached - creating the latter doesn't mean you have to start worrying about the former.
GRACE Beats Richard Stallman in social skills (Score:3, Funny)
In a post-conference interview, researchers noted that GRACE has already exceeded the social skills of Richard Stallman, who has been observed picking his teeth and clipping his toenails (then flicking the debris onto the floor) while giving a talk at Georgia Tech.
"It's not really a fair contest:" groused Stallman,"GRACE doesn't have any toenails!"
(True story about the toenails, BTW. Interesting talk otherwise; or so I heard.)
rumor is that (Score:2)
Re:wow... (Score:3, Funny)
She turned you down for a date, right ?
What's In a Name ? (Score:1)
Re:What's In a Name ? (Score:2)
Re:Great Geek Girls of History (Score:2)
No, not Ada, COBOL.
Ada - not ADA BTW - is named after Ada Byron, Countess of Lovelace [adaic.com], programmer of Charles Babbage's devices.
There's at least one good biography [agnesscott.edu] of "Amazing Grace" Hopper on the web. A google [google.com] search using the keywords "Grace Hopper" COBOL will find you more.
Oh yes, GRACE in this case is Graduate Robot Attending a ConferencE.
Re:With a fat pipe! (Score:1)
Re:I wanna be a robot's pet. (Score:1)