KDE 3.2.1 Released 335
TheSurfer writes "The KDE project today announced the immediate availability of KDE 3.2.1, a maintenance release for the latest generation of the most advanced and powerful free desktop for GNU/Linux and other UNIXes. KDE 3.2.1 ships with lot of bug fixes since KDE 3.2 and is available in 49 languages (now including Bengali, Icelandic, Japanese, Lithuanian, Low Saxon, Latin Serbian and Tajik). Sources and contributed packages are linked on the KDE 3.2.1 info page."
Aha (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Aha (Score:5, Funny)
another link (Score:5, Informative)
Low Saxon (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Low Saxon (Score:2)
Forget Low Saxon, Tajik is where it's at!
Insensitive clod (Re:Low Saxon) (Score:5, Insightful)
Tajikistan is a populous -- if poor at the moment -- nation [countrywatch.com].
Hopefully, the horrible legacy of the USSR will diminish with years and the country will prosper. If someone from there found the time and translated parts of KDE to Tajik -- they should be applauded, rather than mocked.
Re:Insensitive clod (Re:Low Saxon) (Score:2)
mock mock mock.
aaaaaaaaaaaah, better.
Re:Low Saxon (Score:5, Informative)
It may be a somewhat obscure language, in the sense that Icelandic is an obscure language, but just as is the case for Icelandlic it is not an obscure, dead language.
KFG
Re:Low Saxon (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Low Saxon (Score:3, Insightful)
The importance of a language goes far beyond such trivialities as how many people speak it. What they have to say is also of great social and political import.
Oh Lord, won't you buy me. . .
KFG
Re:Low Saxon (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Low Saxon (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Low Saxon (Score:4, Informative)
The clicking language of Namibia is not part of the Bantu group.
By the way, Zulu is already supported by KDE, and a Swahili translation project is underway.
I also have a sneaking suspicion that in the heavily industrialized, educated and rich portions of western Europe where Low Saxon is spoken they have a good deal of use for KDE as well.
KFG
Speaking of which (Score:2)
Re:Speaking of which (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Low Saxon (Score:4, Funny)
"Speak 'friend' and enter!"
Re:Low Saxon (Score:3, Informative)
This security scheme would be very weak. Someone can record you while you say 'friend' and later use the recording to log on. Old-fashioned passwords are better.
Worse, you can change your password if someone steals it, but you can't change your voice, or fingerprints. If you want more security you have to consider three elements:
1. What the user knows. That is, the password. This is the most versatile.
2. What the
Re:Low Saxon (Score:3, Informative)
They'll never get into the schools though, until: (Score:5, Funny)
Klingon, however, has already been determined to be "silly."
KFG
Re:They'll never get into the schools though, unti (Score:2)
Re:They'll never get into the schools though, unti (Score:5, Funny)
Gee, I wish I had that much time on my hands.
Re:They'll never get into the schools though, unti (Score:5, Funny)
Re:They'll never get into the schools though, unti (Score:5, Funny)
Re:They'll never get into the schools though, unti (Score:2, Funny)
[23:37] Jon: LOL
[23:37] Graham: what next? Klingon?
[23:37] Jon: "today is a good day to compile the kernel"
[23:38] Graham: "oops, I just chopped the keyboard in two with this ceremonial deathblade"
[23:38] Jon: lol
[23:41] Graham: OH SHOOT ME http://www.unixcode.org/kde-i18n-klingon/
[23:41
Re:They'll never get into the schools though, unti (Score:3, Funny)
Re:They'll never get into the schools though, unti (Score:3, Funny)
That's OK. I can write a patch that changes all system text to "Fa La La Lally" for them.
Re:They'll never get into the schools though, unti (Score:2)
The Mandrake curse? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:The Mandrake curse? (Score:5, Informative)
Try:
rpm -q -changelog libkdebase4 | less
Oh, Mandrake hasn't gone gold either. The boxed version will go gold in May as I understand it.
Mandrake's luck isn't _that_ bad.
--
Simon
Re:The Mandrake curse? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:The Mandrake curse? (Score:2)
Re:The Mandrake curse? (Score:4, Insightful)
Not true:
First, Mandrake 10.0 was NOT the final release, it was the community release. The final release of Mandrake 10.0 (due soonish) will have all the fixes and whatever else is desired.
Secondly (don't quote me on this), but I believe many of Mandrake's KDE 3.2 packages have the various patches needed to make it a better desktop all around.
Sunny Dubey
And here come the flame (Score:3, Insightful)
Please don't put such things on the main page, we have enough boring flame wars already...
Re:And here come the flame (Score:5, Funny)
Re:And here come the flame (Score:5, Funny)
Oh, so you're one of those holier-than-thou anti-flamewar fanatics, huh? Well, I personally think flamewars rock. We need more of them. I could use a good mysql flamewar right now.
Re:And here come the flame (Score:2, Flamebait)
Flamewars are a menace and those who propagate them should be horsewhipped.
Re:And here come the flame (Score:3, Insightful)
KDE has every right to say their software is the best. By all rights it IS the best Free Desktop for GNU/Linux or any Unix. I'd even argue its superior to the closed source OS X but that's a whole other ball of wax.
It isn't a flame from the KDE camp, its A)marketing and B) mostly based i
Woohoo a maintainance release!!! (Score:5, Funny)
Some bugs are fixed!
Re:Woohoo a maintainance release!!! (Score:2)
It has sorted all of the problems that were previously annoying me. The only (very minor) problem is that I had to de-install kdenetwork3-chat to install some of the new packages. The package kdenetwork3-InstantMessenger seems to have replaced it.
No new bugs so far.
Your mileage may vary.
Re:Woohoo a maintainance release!!! (Score:2)
You trying to become a karma god?
Re:Woohoo a maintainance release!!! (Score:2)
Of course, keeping in mind that funny mods no longer add to karma, I think moderators are more willing to throw around funny mods.
Hmmmm (Score:4, Funny)
Now /. covers maintenance releases? (Score:3, Interesting)
I released POPFile v0.21.0 [sourceforge.net], perhaps I should have submitted a story?
And while we're it at, could we stop with the posturing "the most advanced and powerful free desktop for GNU/Linux".
John.
Re:Now /. covers maintenance releases? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Now /. covers maintenance releases? (Score:2)
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Re:Now /. covers maintenance releases? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Now /. covers maintenance releases? (Score:2)
OMG - - consiracy!! (Score:2)
We HAVE TO STOP THEM!
^
Re:Now /. covers maintenance releases? (Score:2)
Oh, and I use KDE as well.
Debian has it already (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Debian has it already (Score:3, Funny)
you guy(s) rock!
Re:Debian has it already (Score:5, Interesting)
Well then! (Score:3, Funny)
(relax, it's called a joke)
Re:Well then! (Score:4, Funny)
Latin Serbian!?!?! (Score:4, Insightful)
-- Len
Re:Latin Serbian!?!?! (Score:2, Interesting)
probably too much useless info, though...
Re:Latin Serbian!?!?! (Score:4, Interesting)
It is latin serbian. Once long time ago (before 1991) there was a language called Serbo-Croatian. It was one of three official languages (beside slovenian and macedonian) in Yugoslavia. When Yugoslavia vanished in 1991 so did the serbo-croatian. In Croatian it is croatian, in Serbia it is serbian, in Bosnia it is bosnian. It could be argued that all these languages are still one same language but as people prefer to have "seperate" languages they should be allowed to do so. Differences are not that great but generally differences are following: prefered way of writing:
Bosnia: latin
Croatia: latin
Serbia: cyrillic
(note that you can write serbian in latin if you want and croatian and bosnian in cyrillic if you want)
amount of foreign words (notably of turkish origin) in serbia and bosnia are much greater than in croatia. thus neighbour would be spellt as.
Bosnia:komsija
Croatia: susjed
Serbia: komsija
susjed is proper word of south slavic origin. (note that there are people in serbia that say susjed, but majority use komsija. and vice versa for croatia)
other big difference is that people in croatia and bosnia use so called "ijekavski" dialect while people in serbia use "ekavski" dialect. Difference is that some 1000-2000 words in serbia are spellt and pronounced with only e while in croatia and bosnia they are spellt with ije. Kinda like color and colour in american and brittish english. Example:
English: flower | milk
Bosnia: cvijet | mlijeko
Croatia: cvijet | mlijeko
Serbia: cvet | mleko
(note there is even third dialect that is spoken in some part of croatia which is called "ikavski". where cvijet would be pronounced and spellt as "cvit" and milk as "mliko")
Third difference is heavy use of h in bosnia.
English: rotten | coffe
Bosnian: truhlo | kahva
Croatian: trulo | kava
Serbian: trulo | kafa
There are other small differences but they are too small to be mentioned here. Thus it should be called latin Serbian, if you use all words and spellings that people in serbia usually use but spell it with latin.....
Fixed?! (Score:4, Funny)
Oh c'mon, that was my FAVORITE bug! Who was the dork who filed this bug report?
KMix: Properly save volumes on exit so volumes are correctly restored on next login.
Wow, that seems like a pretty big bug. I wonder how people lived with their volume not staying the same.
Re:Fixed?! (Score:2)
But if you liked changing you volume settings via the kpanel applet a lot that would be annoying.
Re:Fixed?! (Score:2)
Oh c'mon, that was my FAVORITE bug! Who was the dork who filed this bug report?
Damn! I have been specifically unable them for months and it didnt work!!??
Wow, that seems like a pretty big bug. I wonder how people lived with their volume not staying the same.
Well, they thought it was an alsa bug, so they tried to learn how to use alsa, then they tried to put all those obscure options in obscure alsa proc entries they found on "users" forums, then they go
Re:Fixed?! (Score:5, Funny)
KMix: Properly save volumes on exit so volumes are correctly restored on next login.
Wow, that seems like a pretty big bug. I wonder how people lived with their volume not staying the same.
Can you imagine, logged into KDE on your laptop in a lab or library somewhere in the back, taking a break, watching some porn with the volume off. So, next day, you think the volume is still off and when you start the video, the whole room hears some girl screaming, "Yeah, fuck me harder!" again and again.
And you think this isn't an important bug to fix? :)
Re:Fixed?! (Score:2)
Re:Fixed?! (Score:3, Interesting)
KMix: Properly save volumes on exit so volumes are correctly restored on next login.
Wow, that seems like a pretty big bug. I wonder how people lived with their volume not staying the same.
Standard behavior for most distributions is to save/restore sound settings at system halt/startup in the init scripts. So it is not exactly normal for the desktop or any other program to handle this itself, and I would guess that only a small minority of KDE users actually require KMix to work in this way. Which is p
KDE 3.2 well worth the upgrade! (Score:3, Interesting)
Fluxbox fans will like that you can now configure kde to switch virtual desktops in kde by using the scroll wheel, and the new Plastik theme looks good. I use it for my Window Border, but I still like the kermick style better. So if you are stuck using KDE 3.1 or less, then get your distro to upgrade. I will probably be emerging this release tomorrow.
Re:KDE 3.2 well worth the upgrade! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:KDE 3.2 well worth the upgrade! (Score:2)
Vapourware and the impact on advertisement (Score:4, Interesting)
What is the difference between the "availablility" and the "immediate availability" of a product?
Is it like the "closing down sale" and the "genuine closing down sale"? Or like the "additional 20% discount on top of our normal 30% discount"?
If it's available, it's immediatly available. If it is not immediatly available, it's not available.
Re:Vapourware and the impact on advertisement (Score:3)
ugh...more compiling! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:ugh...more compiling! (Score:2)
But, you can start mourning for my 64kbps cable modem (I'm in Ecuador).
Re:ugh...more compiling! (Score:2)
Re:ugh...more compiling! (Score:2)
KDE (fake) Changelog (Score:4, Funny)
2) For additional speed, Kuickshow now opens images you thought you wanted to preview.
3) Konqueror now has strings-searchable "Internet Explorer coders are weenies" easter egg.
4) KDevelop now Kompiles with the option to make klean instead of clean.
5) Renamed the "Local Area Network Manager" to KLAN
6) GUI Konstruct-Icons now replaced by Dinobots
Isthay issespay emay offay (Score:4, Funny)
bug flood (Score:5, Informative)
And with this new release a new flood of bugs coming in
KDE weekly bug report summary [kde.org]Please double check when reporting a bug that it really isn't a duplicate. Also be sure to send in backtraces only if you have compiled with debug information. Every bad bug report just costs the developers valueable time which is badly needed for all the features coming with 3.3:
KDE 3.3 features [kde.org]KDEPIM 3.3 features [kde.org]
If you want to help with an even better 3.3 your help in the KDE Quality team [kde.org] is welcome!
KDE, rock on
Motivate KDE developers! (Score:5, Informative)
Start one of the many good KDE applications, go to the "help menu" and click on the "about box"->"authors". Pick one or two of them and write them a short email telling them how much you like their application and that you really appreciate what they are doing for us, the open source community.
It's easy and makes them very happy to hear from satisfied users--normally they just hear about it when something is wrong and sending some nice words really keeps them motivated. Thanks.
For you Debian users (Score:3, Informative)
apt-get -t unstable install kdebase
Re:But wait! (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Now I just need... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Most advanced and powerful? (Score:5, Interesting)
I used Windows for a long time, but then switched to Linux (Mandrake with KDE). I had no major problems whatsoever regarding usability - everything worked more or less like in Windows, but there were more nice things you could tweak and adjust. That's why I love KDE.
Now (for the first time, I admit) I had to use a Mac, with OS/X. I had a hard time. Everything was different - hell, there wasn't even a freaking right mouse button!
I didn't have to spend much time with it, and maybe, if you grow up with a Mac, it's great, but for someone used to Windows or KDE, it's a nightmare.
Don't mod me Flamebait, I am dead serious. What is it with Mac OS/X?
Re:Most advanced and powerful? (Score:2)
It's, well....better than anything else...
Re:Most advanced and powerful? (Score:2)
And I know for sure that everything is entirely possible with OS X.
But everybody was touting how easy it is to use compared to Linux, so I was very disappointed having to use it for the first time.
As a previous Windows user, KDE was much more intuitive.
Re:Most advanced and powerful? (Score:2)
Control key and click (I think) kinda like the windows key - or rather the windows key is like the Macs control/apple key.
I don't actually have/use macs - I just drool over OS X whenever I'm in a computer hardware shop. It seems so much more powerful, intuitive and easier to use than windows or linux. The GUI is everything that KDE or Gnome ought, by now, to have become - revolutionary rather than evolutionary.
Re:Most advanced and powerful? (Score:2)
Re:Most advanced and powerful? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Most advanced and powerful? (Score:3, Funny)
You have a funny definition of the word 'advanced'. I mean, windows 3.1 was 'advanced' enough not to need a right mouse button in 1993...
Re:Most advanced and powerful? (Score:2)
I agree in questioning. And this is coming from someone who learned the "high res GUI" first on Mac OS. At the time I got my first Mac, Windows was also available (well was out the same time the first Mac model anyways), but I just happened to get a Mac first. I was also already experienced in the CLI.
I didn't find the GUI anything revolutionary. But I did and still do accept the abilities a high resolution GUI does give and it was nice when you needed that sort of thing. I'm
Re:Most advanced and powerful? (Score:5, Informative)
1. its a Unix clone.. comes with all the strengths
2. It has a very well designed, clean and consistent UI
3. Its so intuitive that your ganma can use it (try it..)
4. It allows you to run MS office, Photoshop , dreamweaver and tons of other commercial apps alongside your Unix apps like apache, smb, namp etc.
5. You can run X windows apps but turn it off when your dont need it and can run pretty much any (non hardware dependent)app linux can.
6. OSX boxes can emulate i386 very fast the reverse does not exist yet
7. All development tools are free (gcc) and very easy to use GUIs(Xcode)
8. The development API (cocoa) is open and cross platform (GNUstep, openstep)
9. Very good 3rd party hardware support.
10. Fantastic applications like ilife apps, itunes etc that make windows users gawk.
For an example of the last point, have granma install a digital camera and import pics on a PC (drivers, reboot, 3rd party apps etc) then do it on a mac (plug it in) or granma rip a cd, burn a cd burn picture cds etc. (get the point)
in the end my mac is rock solid, fast and i dont have to think about anything other than the task at hand when i am using it (saves lots of time)
in the end, calling it "the best of both worlds" (linux+win) is an understatement but close to what it is.
Re:Most advanced and powerful? (Score:3, Insightful)
However, if you've been using computers for a while and are familiar with something else, both seem like a royal pain and are confusing because everything isn't where it was.
But, again, for people with no prior computing experience it wins hands down.
-Charles
Re:Most advanced and powerful? (Score:2)
Which is also why for our parents, friends, and children Linux still sucks.
Re:Most advanced and powerful? (Score:2, Funny)
Dang, I've been considering OS X for a while, but now my dreams are over...
Re:Most advanced and powerful? (Score:2)
Re:Most advanced and powerful? (Score:2)
OS X might be great if you spend time with it. It might also be great if you have never used a computer before. But I think that it is much easier to switch from Windows to KDE than to OS X.
Re:No right mouse button! (Score:2)
Re:No right mouse button! (Score:2)
More to the point, the grandparent noted that he came from windows to Linux. Most distributions ship with a theme more similar to the windows theme, so it makes sense that that transition was easier.
Re:No right mouse button! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:New languages (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Noo! (Score:2)
Re:Most advanced and powerful? -1, Biased. (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Most advanced and powerful? -1, Biased. (Score:3, Interesting)