Windows XP SP2 Goes Gold 485
writertype writes "PC Magazine reports that Microsoft has released Windows XP SP2 to PC OEMs after a two-day delay. A package of stories, complete with an exploration of the new update, is here. The best way for users to get the update, according to Microsoft, is to have Windows Update turned on; a CD version will be made available." Reader Critical_ writes "With all the news of SP2 being delayed, it seems like Microsoft may have pulled a rabbit out of its hat by releasing RTM on its WindowsBeta site. Neowin has a screenshot of the download page and MSFN has the release information. The final build is 2180. For those who can't download it for whatever reason, Microsoft is giving away free CDs here. Happy installing."
Holy Crap! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Holy Crap! (Score:2, Interesting)
Close is such a relative word.
Wasn't the very original deadline sometime mid-last year?
Forget Gold (Score:4, Funny)
alpha
beta
release candidate 1
release candidate 2
release candidate 3
release candidate 4
IRC warez beta
msdn
gold
release candidate 5
GA
release to manufacturing
blue screen
release candidate 6
Re:Forget Gold (Score:3, Funny)
They've gone plaid.
Re:Holy Crap! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Holy Crap! (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Holy Crap! (Score:3, Informative)
Simon.
Go back to green (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Go back to green (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Go back to green (Score:5, Insightful)
Hell, do we really need an IT section? It is what it is? Can we go back to the real slashdot PLEASE?
Re:Go back to green (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Go back to green (Score:3, Informative)
In other news (Score:4, Funny)
Re:In other news (Score:2, Funny)
Is it a plane?
NO! Its a fucking pig flying over my head! Make it go away!
So (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm a sysadmin mulling over exactly when 'enough people' will have tested it to deploy and roll out myself.
Jabba the Lawyer
Re:So (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:So (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:So (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:So (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:So (Score:3, Insightful)
Well, to be sure... (Score:5, Funny)
emerge -uDv sys-kernel/windows-xp-sp2
Oh, wait a sec... I'm not even supposed to be here, am I?
So (Score:5, Funny)
Re:So (Score:2)
Re:So (Score:5, Informative)
So, if SP1 will install, so will SP2.
In the interest of preventing other people from getting their computers hacked into to form a botnet and DDOS the planet, check out how to change the CD key [techtarget.com] and a list of CD keys [esmartdesign.com].
Re:So (Score:3, Insightful)
Comment removed (Score:4, Informative)
So who pays, (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:So who pays, (Score:2)
If you don't back up your 'homework' Murphy will slap you down.
Backup eary; Backup often.
Is it really golden? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Is it really golden? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Is it really golden? (Score:2)
If they haven't got all the bugs out it'll be headline news by Friday evening...
I'm trying to get an early copy to make sure my software works before the apocalypse on Monday (I managed to trigger some nasty bugs in RC2 which MS claim to have fixed... we'll see...)
Parent post is accurate. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Is it really golden? (Score:2)
Good thing you have facts to back this up...
Re:Is it really golden? (Score:3, Funny)
You new here?
- sm
Re:Is it really golden? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Is it really golden? (Score:2, Informative)
Granted, I'm running GRUB (on a Gentoo system), not LILO, but can't you just boot off a LiveCD and reinstall LILO to the MBR? I seem to remember doing this a couple times during my time spent dual booting...
Michael's Admission (Score:5, Funny)
Hmm...Does this mean Michael, Microsoft hater extraordinaire runs Windows in his spare time?
Why would he let me install it first unless he has windows himself to install SP2 later?
I think I've just exposed Michael has a hypocrite and windows user.
Re:Michael's Admission (Score:5, Funny)
The sysadmins arranged their seats in an inward facing circle. A secretary is called in to randomly play, pause, and resume a Windows Media Audio file on WMP9. The sysadmins randomly throw to each other the 1 SP2 cd burned last night, exclaiming "SP2! SP2" as the disc is hurled to the next holder. Each time the music stops, whoever holds the cd is eliminated from the circle and the game continues. The last person holding the SP2 update CD is the victim^H^H^H^H^H^H first admin to deploy XP SP2 in his/her department.
Time to do away with this Service Pack (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Time to do away with this Service Pack&am (Score:2, Funny)
Microsoft customers have come to understand quite well what a SP is. If anything, their use of "rollup fixpacks" and things like that are confusing, albeit they're used mostly in the corporate context.
Re:Time to do away with this Service Pack (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Time to do away with this Service Pack (Score:2)
Windows Beta site getting hammered (Score:5, Insightful)
WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe
Re:Windows Beta site getting hammered (Score:2)
I've counted a dozen of them in the last couple of hours.
Re:Windows Beta site getting hammered (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Windows Beta site getting hammered (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Windows Beta site getting hammered (Score:5, Funny)
It will show up on your machine automatically with the automatic updates feature. Whats the rush? It's not like this is a new Pokémon card.
Re:Windows Beta site getting hammered (Score:5, Funny)
I beg to differ. Windows service packs are exactly like new pokemon cards.. their worth is dubious yet people have the strange urge to collect them all!
SP2 I choose you!
Re:Windows Beta site getting hammered (Score:2)
276 Seeders, 1300 downloaders [66.90.75.92]
60 seeders, 300 downloaders [66.90.75.92] (Requires fileshack.org account)
6 seeders, 60 downloaders [66.90.75.92]
1 seeder, 10 downloaders [66.90.75.92]
p.s., I still hate the color scheme on it.slashdot.org
Caramba ! (Score:5, Funny)
I'm about to lose control and I think
Please join me for a minute of silence in a memory of our dialup friends.
**Congratulations to our 1,000,000,000 visitor!** (Score:5, Funny)
I'm going to DISNEYLAND!!
Lots of errors (Score:5, Funny)
Wow. That's 96 more errors than I got last time.
What about Win2K SP5? (Score:2, Interesting)
Install Server 2003. (Score:3, Insightful)
And no service packs! Because they left out all the shitty stuff.
Hmmm (Score:2, Insightful)
Guess i can wait a while to install it at work...
Re:Hmmm (Score:4, Informative)
We got wind of the decision to push it out via that channel just in time to switch windows update off via a group policy. Which is lucky otherwise we'd be looking at a lot of dead machines on monday morning (putting up a eula is *not* going to stop users installing it... most of them click blindly on anythign they're asked).
Re:Hmmm (Score:2)
Re:Hmmm (Score:3, Informative)
For a start, they're testers and our software won't even begin to install for a non-administrator.
btw. you need to realize how automatic updates work - you do *not* need to be an administrator to use it. They download in the background and and are made 'live' by a scheduled reboot overnight. You could have all your users as 'guest' and you'd still be hosed.
If it didn't work like that it'd be pretty damned useless... you'd have to pay someone to manually log in as an ad
Re:Hmmm (Score:3, Insightful)
Um, how about convenience? Do you REALLY think it is wise to have to have an administrator come by (or access the pc remotely) everytime a user (such as a software developer, QA engineer, etc) needs to install software or change system settings (different software that installs in different places, different settings...), or add/delete user accounts or s
Re:Hmmm (Score:3, Interesting)
Try telling that to the company president after they've installed enough spyware/adware to effectively cripple their machines. Any admin worth their pay is going to have automated tools to take car
Re:Hmmm (Score:3, Insightful)
This is a common misconception. The sysadmin's job is not to provide service to the user, it is to maximize the availibility of his employer's resources. The sysadmin's scope is much larger than a single user, and involves protecting all of the systems under his control from any single user. If a machine is down because the "cle
Re:Hmmm (Score:2)
Wow... a company that doesn't use SUS to control patches. Didn't think you guys existed. You let your users install their own patches up until now?
Re:Hmmm (Score:3, Informative)
Our MCSE refuses to touch SUS with a bargepole. there are some valid reasons (it requires a dedicated server and large hard disk, and we can't spare the hardware) and some just because he hates it it didn't work when we trialled it.
It's pretty pointless anyway as the company is on a fast leased line so a proxy like SUS is just sucking up administration time.
Re:Hmmm (Score:2)
Re:Hmmm (Score:5, Informative)
As to the famous "3 out of 5" comment, this [slashdot.org] post explains that problem better than I can. Basically, the guy who published the original article appears to have installed spyware on his system, and then he's blaming MS because his spyware doesn't work.
Re:Hmmm (Score:3, Interesting)
I bet a lot more than 3 out of 5 home users machines are full of spyware too.
Oh dear....
Re:Hmmm (Score:4, Informative)
What will SP2 do for Linux's server dominence? (Score:3, Funny)
Erm.. (Score:3, Interesting)
Since version 5 of windows update refuses to let anyone with a corporate key download this, does anybody have any legitimate mirrors for SP2?
Also, apparently, neowin reports [neowin.net] SP2 accepts those evil keys [microsoft.com].
It makes one wonder.. why allow SP2 to install on pirated copies, but refuse to let people update via the windows update site?
Re:Erm.. (Score:2)
And really, SP2 Corp keygens were out on the P2P networks a few weeks back. Just keep changing it until the product ID starts XXXXX-640- and doesn't match one of the ones listed on your "Evil Keys" link, and you should be good to go on windows update v5.
Torrent Links (Score:5, Informative)
276 Seeders, 1300 downloaders [66.90.75.92]
60 seeders, 300 downloaders [66.90.75.92] (Requires fileshack.org account)
6 seeders, 60 downloaders [66.90.75.92]
1 seeder, 10 downloaders [66.90.75.92]
p.s., I still hate the color scheme on it.slashdot.org
Re:Torrent Links (Score:2)
Then when you try to create an account, it will say "sorry, 91,000 account limit reached - please try again soon since inactive accounts are regularly purged"
Hence, my comment, requires an existing fileshack.org account.
Torrent anyone? (Score:2)
Torrents---which one is "right" ?? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Torrents---which one is "right" ?? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Torrents---which one is "right" ?? (Score:3, Informative)
Let's just wait... (Score:2)
Oh sure (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Oh sure (Score:3, Insightful)
Besides, most tech support people *I* know won't be rushing to install this on company computers (although I might jump in head-first for a home machine).
Re:Oh sure (Score:2)
Re:Oh sure (Score:2)
Re:Oh sure (Score:2)
Ya' know, just before all the support staff get into work...
I don't admin any more as our MCSE won't let me do it (the same one that insists that he keeps a copy of all the passwords on a printout on his desk and gets shirty when I refuse to tell him it... pity they don't teach squat about security at MCSE school).
MD5 checksum for SP2 (Score:5, Informative)
Filename: WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe
MD5: 59A98F181FE383907E520A391D75B5A7
The one I'm getting on a torrent has a SHA1 hash of:
GOUP55QNJCXB6LCP52RHCENPLTWKHRHW
Yup, that is the official download's MD5SUM too (Score:2)
More importantly: any news yet on NT4 sp7 ? (Score:2, Funny)
WTF? I gotta buy something again just to get it to work right?
RC2 (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:RC2 (Score:2)
I waiting for.. (Score:5, Funny)
I going to hold out at wait for the service pack for SP2.
(kidding)
Windowsbeta nonresponsive (Score:2)
Meh... (Score:2, Interesting)
Trickle-down downloads (Score:4, Interesting)
"Microsoft will use metered downloads to update users steadily without bogging down the entire Internet."
*Strokes chin* How do they do this, exactly? By IP? By Product Key? What determines when someone will get it?
Hopefully we'll see SP2 on Torrents soon.
Here's how they are going to do it (Score:5, Informative)
The timing for customers to receive the Service Pack 2 download through Automatic Updates depends on a number of factors, including the customer's Internet usage, location, language and the level of Internet demand for Service Pack 2. Automatic Updates uses spare Internet capacity to progressively download updates without interfering with daily PC use. Microsoft expects to distribute Service Pack 2 to approximately 100 million PCs through Automatic Updates over the next two months.
The progresive download feature being talked about refers to the "Background Intelligent Transfer Service" BITS [microsoft.com]. BITS transfers files using leftover bandwidth. For example, if you are currently using 60 percent of your bandwidth, BITS will only use the remaining 40 percent. BITS also maintains file transfers when a network disconnection occurs, or a computer needs to be restarted: When the network connection is re-established, BITS will continue where it left off.
Hmmm... (Score:5, Funny)
Price for a laptop? $1500.00
Price for Win XP Pro? $299.99
Price for SP2? Free
Resinstalling Windows XP, all your programs, and all your data after SP2 renders the computer unusable? Priceless
-rt
Re:Hmmm... (Score:2)
MD5 Sum from WinBeta (Score:4, Informative)
WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe 59A98F181FE383907E520A391D75B5A7
The Firewall (Score:4, Interesting)
I agree with PCMag on this. Microsoft still doesn't get it. To continue the Microsoft analogy, they gave the bad guys a key to the deadbolt.
Looks like I'll be continuing to ignore the built in firewall in favor of a real one.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1631256,00.as p [pcmag.com]
If MS can, so can Slashdot (Score:3, Insightful)
Hmph (Score:4, Interesting)
on one of my laptops, it worked fine. Done.
On my desktop, I can no longer see the contents of my second NTFS drive. Uninstalling SP2 leaves me still unable to see it.
Ugh, and it seemed like a decent upgrade besides that.
Re:MS's free Cds...... (Score:2)
Re:Bad Press and Release.... (Score:2)
1) bad, because all your friends will be phoning up expecting you to 'fix' their PCs
2) good, because all you friends will be phoning up expecting you to 'fix' their PCs, and you can name your own price.