Test KDE 3.3's Public Release Candidate 28
HulkProtector1 writes "The latest version of KDE beta 3.3 has been released.
This version has already received a lot of feedback and has been deemed stable enough for a public release candidate. The KDE team requests that all testers try and break this release as soon as possible, as the bug reports are invaluable to the developers.
Please note that binary packages will not be available for this version. Then source code can be downloaded from download.kde.org (or alternately use the excellent Konstruct build tool).
For a list of new features skim over the KDE 3.3 Feature Plan."
Re:KDE? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:KDE? (Score:1, Offtopic)
no Binaries (Score:1)
Re:no Binaries (Score:5, Informative)
Re:no Binaries (Score:1)
what web browser do you use?
Re:no Binaries (Score:1)
Konqueror because it is best integrated... Firefox because I use it on Windows at Work and I sinc my bookmarks via extension, and IE because I am forced by some job recrutement sites that don`t work on anything else.
Re:no Binaries (Score:1)
just asking, because you mentioned konqueror as a file browser, and it does oh so much more (i really really like it for webbrowsing)
thanks
Re:no Binaries (Score:1)
How do you like the new theme manager? (Score:2)
Re:no Binaries (Score:2)
Still working on downloading everything, so I can't give my impression yet.
For those who were wondering, yes there was an RC1, but they intentionally didn't announce it. Apparently some major bugs were discovered after preparing the tarballs but before making the announcement, so they scrapped that and fixed the bugs
Konqueror (Score:4, Interesting)
What about the clip-board where you would sometimes want to highlight some text [for replacement], only to find that it has replaced the text you had in the so called X-clip board? I know it is configurable but Joe Six Pack has always found problems. A behavior more like that found in M$ windows is more acceptable. Here, the geeks can choose not to synchronize the two clip-boards.
Re:Konqueror (Score:5, Informative)
There are two clipboards. There's the X-style one, where selecting text automatically copies it, and the Windows-style one, where you press Ctrl-C to copy and Ctrl-V to paste. They each have their own storage.
Is this so difficult to understand? Windows users will never notice the X clipboard, X users will never notice the Windows clipboard. Or so you'd think.
If you're confused about this, I'm sorry, but it's really not that difficult to understand. The system works fine for any 'normal' user, who will simply be oblivious to the 'other' clipboard. It also works fine for the user who knows there are two clipboards and whose brain can cope with the rather simple concept that the two are separate.
Re:Konqueror (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Konqueror (Score:3, Insightful)
Such documents really need fixing, and whoever wrote them should be spanked.
Rik
Use Klipper (Score:4, Informative)
It also has lots of other handy things, like clipboard history.
Re:Konqueror (Score:4, Insightful)
Hmmm, synchronization by default is exactly what you don't want. I'm not sure what the default is right now, because I haven't had default settings for a long time. However, if the two clipboards are synchronized by default, then you have problems where someone would ctrl-c to copy text, highlight some other text to replace it, and ctrl-v to paste, only to find that the highlighted overwrote what was in the clipboard. This is what confuses new users.
On the other hand, if synchronization is disabled (if not by default, you can disable it in klipper's config), then the two clipboard "universes" will never "collide". Users can ctrl-c, highlight, ctrl-v without ever knowing of the existance of another clipboard, and advanced users can use highlight and middle-click-paste to their hearts' content. This currently works exactly as expected; I should know because I use both clipboards regularly (unsync'ed).
Thus, in unsynchronized mode, copy/paste can be done in the "Windows" and "X" way, without either one interfering with the other. Synchronization only serves to confuse new users, because they highlight stuff and go "WTF! The stuff I copied is gone?!?!".
Re:Konqueror (Score:2)
No, they're too busy trying to fix the bug where the window manager sometimes just turns off if XFree86 or X.org are not installed...
Antialiasing in Konsole (Score:4, Informative)
Other than that KDE3.3 is decent, although I think they should spend a lot more time than they have planned on bugfixing and optimization. It's starting to get bloated again.
I will repeat that I think it's insane that they want to release this so quickly. It needs a lot of polishing, and there's no way in hell anyone can get it feeling all crisp and clean again before the scheduled release date. Otherwise, it's KDE. I'm in love anyways.
</fanboy>
Re:Antialiasing in Konsole (Score:5, Informative)
you can add this as a flag to the entry in the kmenu by using the menu editor (kmenuedit, also available by right clicking on the kmenu icon).
Is it efficient? (Score:2, Interesting)
Yeah , mod me down as a troll if you will but lots of other people I know who use linux and BSD are of the same opinion.
Re:Is it efficient? (Score:2, Informative)
Don't call KDE bloatware only because you don't need a DE.
Re:Is it efficient? (Score:1)