Firefox 1.0 Released 1112
New Here writes "November 9 has arrived and with it comes Firefox 1.0. According to its home page, Firefox empowers you to browse faster, more safely, and more efficiently than with any other browser. I'm New Here, but this Firefox does sound very promising! Firefox 1.0 is available now for Windows, Linux, and Mac from the mozilla.org ftp server."
I'm New Here (Score:5, Funny)
Mirrors (Score:5, Informative)
Here is a Google cache of the Firefox Mirror List [64.233.183.104].
Re:Mirrors (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Mirrors (Score:5, Informative)
options->advanced->software_update->check now
Not really (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Mirrors (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Mirrors (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Mirrors (Score:5, Informative)
Be kind to his bandwidth though.
Moox Torrents (Score:5, Informative)
With thanks to escaflo:
Moox Firefox 1.0 M1 (MMX) Torrent [curtin.edu.au]
Moox Firefox 1.0 M2 (SSE) Torrent [curtin.edu.au]
Moox Firefox 1.0 M3 (SSE2) Torrent [curtin.edu.au]
Use the torrents and save his bandwidth.
Re:Mirrors (Score:5, Informative)
1) Go to about:config
2) Right-click in the content area and create a new Boolean value
3) Name it "config.trim_on_minimize" and set it to false.
4) Close & relaunch
See bugzilla bug# 76831 if you'd like more details. (no linking to bugs from slashdot)
Hehe :) Firefox slashdotted slashdot's RSS :) (Score:4, Informative)
Think about it...
TONS of geeks downloading Firefox.
Each copy of Firefox has a live bookmark pointing to slashdot.
Slashdot's RSS news feed get's slashdotted and Cmdr. Taco goes nuts
Finally, this is what happened [slashdot.org]
I really wonder what the present download count is!
Well New Here, Here's the Band Wagon now JUMP ON! (Score:5, Funny)
Mirrors (Score:5, Informative)
http://64.12.168.21/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/relea
http://207.200.85.49/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rele
http://trillian.cc.gatech.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fir
http://mozilla.osuosl.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox
http://mozilla.ussg.indiana.edu/pub/mozilla.org/f
Official Torrent:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/re
Re:Mirrors (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Mirrors (Score:5, Interesting)
We're not trying to slam you, we're not trying to rape you with popups or redirects. Just happen to have our name mentioned in the URL. Your choice if you'd want to use our services. I feel this is very similar to a sourceforge mirror of download links. You choose a mirror, the company happens to be listed on the left. They don't do anything except sit there with their name.
I totally agree on the 'free ipod' and 'free lcd monitor' bit -- I don't agree with those MLM schemes
Also btw, -- if I'd chosen to use my personal blog URL -- HornyandConfused.com [hornyandconfused.com] instead of 100BigCoupons.com [100bigcoupons.com] You would've thought I was advertising a porn site instead
I'm open to suggestions as to how we could better give back to the open source community with our spare bandwidth. We've contacted numerous open source projects and offered to be mirrors, but most everyone seems to have plenty of bandwidth now adays -- the only place I see is when there's an occasional slashdot story that links to a site that got hit hard.
Re:Mirrors (Score:4, Interesting)
His site seems to be holding up under the stress.
He has Optimized Release Builds of FireFox 1.0 [www.moox.ws]
I'm still waiting for 1.0 with SVG.
Anyone?
Re:Unofficial Change Log (Score:5, Informative)
In case it gets slashdotted, new features:
And improvements:
Old news (Score:5, Funny)
Google hosted homepage (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Google hosted homepage (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Google hosted homepage (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Google hosted homepage (Score:5, Insightful)
8 million firefox users (as of spreadfirefox.com) all hitting mozilla.org as their default start page must generate quite a lot of traffic, and the start page wasn't that useful other than telling you what you just downloaded and installed.
The other theory is that Google donated quite a bit, but I prefer the first
Re:Google hosted homepage (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Google hosted homepage (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Google hosted homepage (Score:4, Funny)
Anyway - what was the trigger for IE page? Anything uses it now?
PS: What's that gradient business at the top of Firefox page? We don't need stinky "cool designs" at Google!!!
No XUL? (Score:4, Interesting)
Google XUL [google.com]
This has become my new homepage in Firefox, although I wish it was centered...
Re:No XUL? (Score:5, Insightful)
Hmmm... I wonder why they didn't create a page using XUL, like this page:
I wonder... could it be because it's ugly, looks different on different platforms, takes four times as long to load and provides no extra benefit for the user?
Finding updated extensions (Score:5, Informative)
Workaround. (Score:5, Informative)
Put app.extensions.version in the filter.
Change value from 1.0 to 0.10
Most, if not all, extensions that work in PR should work now.
Your extensions will have to be reactivated by right clicking on each extension and selecting Enable.
Use at your own risk...Lawyers make me say that...
links to torrents... (Score:5, Informative)
linux i686 torrent [mozilla.org]
win32 torrent [mozilla.org]
(both EN-US).
A better mirror? (Score:5, Informative)
Anyone know if the New York Times ad went through? Is it available to view anywhere?
Re:A better mirror? (Score:5, Informative)
The design has not been finalized yet. Also, when they submit the final design to the New York Times, the newspaper gives them a window of about three weeks for which the ad could run. This gets Spread Firefox a better price.
BBC front page Story (Score:5, Informative)
Runs like a breeze! (Score:5, Informative)
Donkey:
OS X Will rule this world [ed2k]
Windows Exe [ed2k]
tar.gz [ed2k]
Good grief (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Good grief (Score:5, Funny)
More Links (Score:4, Interesting)
I've posted some more interesting news and Mozilla developer blog links and a screenshot of the new Firefox Google search interface on my blog:
inside aebrahim's head - firefox 1.0 is here! [ebrahim.org]
Rendering slashdot (Score:4, Interesting)
Has anyone else seen Firefox render slashdot incorrectly?
It can usually be fixed with a simple click of the reload button (F5).
It's fixed (Score:4, Informative)
bug 264913 [mozilla.org]
bug 217527 [mozilla.org]
The good news is that Slashdot WORKS again in the nightlies. If you really want, you can grab a nightly build here [scarlet.be] and check it out for yourself. They are generally pretty stable, but thy sometimes f with your extensions.
Re:It's fixed (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Rendering slashdot (Score:4, Informative)
Yes. And I've seen some other sites render incorrectly too.
In Slashdot case, simply Ctrl-+, Ctrl-= should do the trick, but unfortunatelly there are some sites out there, where even this trick will not fix the page. Also, there seems to be some sort of CSS rendering bug in Firefox, which fucks up Bloglines.com, if you use some proxy server.
There are some other bugs still in Firefox, which haven't been fixed even if there are several bug reports about these issues. (rendering, lock-ups, etc.)
There also seems to be a way to work around the pop-up filter. I've bumped into sites, which are able to open tons of pop-ups and crash the Firefox even if the pop-up blocker is on. I need to investigate this issue a bit more and file a report, if there already isn't a bug report in Bugzilla.
So, you're not only one having problems with Firefox.
Re:Rendering slashdot (Score:4, Insightful)
However, I (under linux) don't get this bug at all since 0.9.
Next, SVG (Score:5, Interesting)
Next desire, native SVG [mozilla.org] support so FireFox wins the enterprise space before Longhorn even gets to market.
We have two years.
Re:Next, SVG (Score:5, Informative)
He's already in the past done release builds of Firefox with SVG. They were pretty nice.
I'd watch for it in a few days.
Meanwhile, I've already setup a Mirror of Moox's FireFox 1.0 Optimized release builds, just incase he gets slammed. [100bigcoupons.com]
Spread the love! (Score:5, Informative)
The site seems to be down so here is the Google cache [64.233.183.104] and the Corel link [nyud.net].
Convert friends - add top 10 reasons for FF here (Score:5, Informative)
What are the top 10 reasons to use FF over IE? I'll start:
1. Security
Any really good arguments here?
2. Standards
Open standards ensure that independent vendors can compete on fair grounds. The W3C is the de facto standards body for internet standards. Firefox is implemented from the ground up based on those standards. Standard compliant websites will show in any browsers (on any platform) that also complies to the standards, and not just in a specific browser with its own standard.
3. Extensibility
Different users have different needs. For most, the normal Firefox distribution has all required features. For some, a specific extra feature is of considerable value. Firefox has support for plugin's, which is small custom components of code that can deliver near any functionality.
4. Reliability
In firefox, what you see is what you get. No hidden agendas, no spy-ware installing behind your back.
5. Comfort
Do you remember how the internet was a few years back when there were no annoying pop-up's and you didn't have to worry about spyware installing on your machine behind your back? With Firefox, you can once again realize that blissful sensation of using the Internet.
6. Continuity
Firefox is not going to stop innovating at 1.0 or whenever it has market dominance. Firefox is here to stay, and to keep evolving.
7. Slickness
Firefox has stunning looks and sleek controls. You can download a theme with a few clicks, or you can create your own. Firefox is hot, Internet Explorer is not.
8. For the people, by the people
Microsoft [com.com] is not your friend. Firefox, like much open source software, is built for the people, by the people. You'll find that Firefox is surrounded by an enthusiastic community of supporters, not big business. Firefox, like other Open Source Software, is built, maintained and supported by people who believe in sharing, cooperation, and community.
9. ?
10.?
Re:Convert friends - add top 10 reasons for FF her (Score:5, Funny)
XUL deserves more light (Score:5, Informative)
Have a look here: http://www.faser.net/mab/chrome/content/mab.xul [faser.net]
"let the downloads commense" (Score:5, Funny)
Or was that meant to be, "commence?"
ObOnTopicComment: Yes, Firefox is darned good. You should try it.
And not only that (Score:5, Insightful)
1. The 'default plugin' which used to be a dynamic library called something like 'libnullplugin.so' is now statically linked in, which means that you can't just remove it. What it does is nag the you every bloody time you go to a page that wants to display something that requires a plugin; these plugins are used intensively in adverts, which is why I don't have them.
2. There has always been a way to search in the displayed page - go to 'Edit -> Find in This Page' in the menu, or press CtlF. In earlier versions you had to press the 'Find Next' button in the search dialog in order to start the search. In Firefox 1.0 the search happens as you type. Some people like it, apparently, but to me it is incredibly disruptive. There are situations where you definitely don't want this functionality; one such is if you, like me, feel it hard to concentrate on the dialog box when the background moves. Another, rather lengthy example is the following:
Assume that you work with a big text that contains a large number of complicated words, like eg (WARNING: its huge):
http://flora.huh.harvard.edu/china/mss/volume25
This is a botanical text about orchids in China, and it is full of exotic names. Let's say that you have found 'Hemipilia kwangsiensis', and you want to find other occurrences of 'kwangsiensis'. If you are like me, you press CtlF, type the word (none of this mouse stuff for me if I can avoid it) and press [Return]. Except that the wods you are looking for disappears as soon as you start typing, and now you have the problem of finding the original place in a text of about 900 pages printed. And all that just to be cool. It would definitely have been nice with an option that could turn it off.
Apart from that it is a good browser; definitely better than IE. I can recommend v.0.9
Re:And not only that (Score:5, Informative)
On the first one - I realize this is a lot more of a pain than deleting libullplugin, but I think I have solution for you. I presume you are mostly complaining about flash. Download and install the adblock extension. Ad an adblock extension for *.swf, and adblock will block all flash for you, and I'm betting that'll happen before it looks for the plugin and stop the warnings.
Re: Find (Score:5, Informative)
So...I'm pretty sure I understood your post correctly, but it didn't make much sense, because you can still do CtrlF, F3 as you did before. That has not changed. If I'm wrong, then reply to this.
But the real question... (Score:4, Insightful)
I don't understand why Mozilla is ignoring the suite. It's a great product and is widely used. I personally have been seriously using the suite since about 0.6 and I can't understand why everyone's gone against it. If you have even 256 MB RAM it's fast. Yes it does take longer than IE to load up, but I start up Moz when I start my PC and don't close it until I shut down.
I think it's sad the development of the suite has really slowed now.
Re:But the real question... (Score:4, Informative)
The reason you don't see this yet is development happens on trunk (currently 1.8a6), but the current release is on the 1.7 branch. Generally when a version branches, features are not backported to it - only more important and stable updates (crash fixes, rendering fixes, etc) get included. If you download a trunk nightly, you'll find all of these features.
Unfortunately, due to the Firefox hype, there are few users testing the 1.8 alphas, meaning that 1.8 will have to stay in alpha longer (it's on alpha 6 right now) before moving to beta and eventually release. A lot of the developers who work on Mozilla projects don't use, like, or care about Fireofx - the suite is not going to die any time soon.
Use Mirrors (Score:5, Informative)
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/re
Had to completely uninstall the Preview Release (Score:5, Informative)
A normal uninstall, followed by a re-install did not solve the problem. Files were left in the install directory and, when prompted, I chose to wipe out the entire directory. Only after performing a complete uninstall (completely deleting the install path, but preserving the profiles) and reinstalling did Firefox work properly. Your mileage may vary, but I hope this isn't a widespread problem, as a 1.0 release isn't the time for screwups like this.
Might I have been doing something wrong? Installing a new version to the old path seems to be a a well-supported idiom, as I've been doing that for ages without problems with all manners of programs.
Re:Had to completely uninstall the Preview Release (Score:4, Informative)
In fact, it's probably best to create a new profile, the one I've lugged around since 0.4 has probably gotten a bit crufty. :)
Hide and Merge the sidebar? (Score:4, Interesting)
In Mozilla, you could hide the sidebar by clicking in the middle of the edge of the sidebar. In Firefox they removed that and now to close the bar you have to click on the X
similar to how IE handles them. It also seems that you cannot merge sidebars, such as the history and favorites, so you can't view them both at the same time.
Is there a theme or a way to return that functionality in firefox short of rewriting the whole thing?
Take the "5 days with Firefox" challenge (Score:5, Interesting)
The best thing about Firefox (and OpenOffice) is (Score:5, Insightful)
The same might be true at some point for ThunderBird, but at the moment, KMail is just so far ahead of everything else that hurts. When that happens, though, Microsoft should be very, very afraid: If you don't need to care about the operating system anymore for 95 percent of the things you do, you don't need to pay all that money to actually buy one from them.
firefox 1.0 installer overwrote my bookmarks (Score:5, Informative)
Don't forget (Score:4, Informative)
Not to be a whore or anything but... (Score:5, Informative)
These errors are fixed in the Mozilla trunk source code, but for apparently sound reasons, the developers didn't want to check the fixes into the 1.0 branch, apparently because they caused problems with some other, unnamed web sites. SlashFix is a good interim solution so you don't feel compelled to start up IE just to surf your favorite geek time-waste.
More like pre-slashdotted.... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:slashdotted already? (Score:5, Informative)
Windows torrent [207.200.85.49] and executable [207.200.85.49].
Linux torrents for installer [207.200.85.49] and tarball [207.200.85.49].
Re:Torrents (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Torrents (Score:5, Informative)
I wonder how bad my home server would get pounded if I were to post a link to the FireFox 1.0 download [incoherency.net]. Go ahead, pound it... It's a special occassion.
Re:New Here's posting record is fanastic (Score:5, Funny)
Re:New Here's posting record is fanastic (Score:5, Informative)
Re:1.0 right now (Score:5, Informative)
Re:1.0 right now (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Where is Preferences? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Where is Preferences? (Score:5, Informative)
It's just as illogical to put options under "View" menu, which is meant for managing the way content is displayed in the program. You don't just "view" options, you view and modify them. "Tools" is a kind of a catch-all, but it makes most sense of the three.
Re:1.0 right now (Score:4, Interesting)
Now be sure to change your web pages to detect non-Firefox browsers (or at least non-IE) and encourage them to upgrade to Firefox. I've documented the basic technique here: How to detect Firefox [ericgiguere.com] and See the headers you're sending [ericgiguere.com].
EricWhy the Vioxx recall reduced spam [ericgiguere.com] (humor)
Anyone seen this yet? (Score:5, Interesting)
Die, MSN, die!
Re:1.0 right now (Score:5, Informative)
Your browser detecting technique is broken. If you send different content to clients depending on which HTTP request headers are sent, you need to send an appropriate Vary response header [w3.org]. Otherwise public caches could serve the wrong content to the wrong browsers, resulting in Firefox users getting "upgrade to Firefox" and non-Firefox users getting the content intended for Firefox users.
Re:1.0 right now (Score:5, Informative)
You're quite right about the Vary header, and I've updated the page (and the header viewer) accordingly, thanks: How to detect Firefox [ericgiguere.com].
EricReading C Declarations: A Guide for the Mystified [ericgiguere.com]
Re:1.0 right now (Score:5, Insightful)
I ran Linux exclusively from 1995-2000, and the lack of a STABLE web browser than would handle LOTS of Java, Flash, etc ... it sent me to Windows 2000.
I kept Linux on the server, but Windows on the Desktop.
I was really not expecting much when I downloaded Firefox 5 months ago, as I had been using IE exclusively for 4 years.
What an incredible surprise. I have not used IE at all for three months, and am considering a switch back to Linux on the desktop.
Firefox has the potential to really open some doors to not only "alterntative" browsers, but "alternative" OS'es as well.
Re:1.0 right now (Score:5, Insightful)
Some may still not work, but most of them probably will.
Re:Don't forget to check out the extensions: (Score:5, Informative)
FoxyTunes: http://www.iosart.com/foxytunes/firefox/ [iosart.com]
AdBlock: http://adblock.mozdev.org/ [mozdev.org]
More: http://update.mozilla.org [mozilla.org]
Re:Slashdot (Score:5, Informative)
This one [mozilla.org] for Linux.
Re:New York Times Ad (Score:5, Informative)
Re:New York Times Ad (Score:4, Interesting)
Oh, and not directly related, but from MSFT site:
Re:Please tell me (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Please tell me (Score:5, Informative)
If you find yourself as a power user that has a ton of diff extensions, don't find yourself stuck in your mail client all the time, then use firefox / thunderbird. Mozilla will meet your needs if you just want a browser with all the security of fox but nothing else of it.
Re:Please tell me (Score:4, Interesting)
I have 1.5 GB in my machine now so I don't really care much about 250 - 300 MB that the two can take up combined under heavy usage.
Re:Please tell me (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Please tell me (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Please tell me (Score:5, Informative)
Why should I switch from Mozilla to Firefox?
There isn't all that much difference. But the Firefox extensions are good (and easy to fetch), especially Web Developer gives you loads of cool tools for inspecting web pages, and Mozilla Firesomething is an instant classic (it's a parody on Firefox' name's history - it gives your windows names like "Mozilla Superkoala" - this sort of thing cracks me up. But then I am a nerd).
Friends of mine love the mouse gestures extension, but I didn't like Black and White much...
Re:Please tell me (Score:4, Interesting)
My imap server only gives me a small amount of space for my email folders. When I start deleting stuff the deletion often only commits when I shut down the mail app. With Mozilla, that might be hours later because I don't want to lost my web sessions. I can restart Thunderbird without touching Firefox.
Also, if one app crashes it won't take down the other. Crashes are pretty rare now, but when they happen it's still pretty annoying.
Finally, it seems like more work (on the UI and extensions) is going into Firefox than Mozilla, so I might as well get on board.
Re:Please tell me (Score:5, Interesting)
Get Chatzilla then?
Will integrate nicely with Firefox and doing that will still avoid a lot of cruft in the Mozilla Suite.
Re:Please tell me (Score:4, Interesting)
Mozilla supports both of these (at least 1.7.3 does, I don't know about any earlier version).
Bookmarks better defined
Possibly, even though I can't see much of a difference myself.
Firefox looks nice, I was able to import all of my settings from Mozilla. Unfortunately, Thunderbird doesn't seem to have a similar import function from Mozilla Mail (why would this be so difficult to implement? They seem to have one from Outlook to Thunderbird).
Re:Please tell me (Score:5, Interesting)
Now, what I want (among other things) is:
Re:Please tell me (Score:4, Insightful)
The "/" key invokes search, and escape will take you out of it.
I actually prefer the box at the bottom of the screen, it just take a bit of time to get used to it.
Re:Please tell me (Score:5, Funny)
Non-troll (honest question):
"Why should I switch from Mozilla to Firefox?"
Troll (indignant):
"Why should I switch from Mozilla to Firefox?"
See? It's all in the tone of voice.
Re:Please tell me (Score:5, Interesting)
It's more standards compliant, which allows me, as a developer to write more standards based code, *then* use workarounds for stuff which IE doesn't like. That said, IE still handles crazy markup without crashing or other artifacts (see firefox/slashdot rendering bug). Security wise, it's supposedly a lot better becuase it doesn't have deep ties into the OS.
Top seller for me? I can put it on my USB drive and transfer it to the harddrive and it'll work, even on machines when I don't have admin rights (and aren't insanely tied down). I also can't live without tabbed browsing, and mouse gestures (an extension).
What differentiates it from the stock mozilla browser? Well, Firefox is now the flagship browser from Mozilla.org and I wouldn't be suprised if they don't end-of-life the stock mozilla (technically called seamonkey IIRC?), so Firefox is the one with the future. I've been testing Firefox since their very early betas (.3 0.4?) and it replaced seamonkey on my desktop around
I care (Score:5, Informative)
Plus, it's so much easier as an IT manager, because IE is a friggin magnet for shit - people end up with so much junk on their computer that DOES come from IE. Exploits are written for IE, and IE is more flawed than any other browser and the security fixes take longer than any other browser.
Maybe you SHOULD care!
Re:Too bad it runs like ass on my computer. (Score:4, Interesting)
mine smokes.
Re:what firefox needs (Score:5, Informative)
Re:address bar keywords (Score:5, Informative)
On that site, Right click the form field and choose 'Add a keyword for this search'
Once added, FF will allow you to use that keyword in exactly the way you described.
You can also add them manually, by mucking with the URL the way you describe, but this UI method allows you to do it and automatically creates the passable fields for you.