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Firefox 1.0 Released 1112

New Here writes "November 9 has arrived and with it comes Firefox 1.0. According to its home page, Firefox empowers you to browse faster, more safely, and more efficiently than with any other browser. I'm New Here, but this Firefox does sound very promising! Firefox 1.0 is available now for Windows, Linux, and Mac from the mozilla.org ftp server."
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Firefox 1.0 Released

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  • by RodeoBoy ( 535456 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:08AM (#10764871) Homepage
    No way really?
  • Mirrors (Score:5, Informative)

    by peterprior ( 319967 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:08AM (#10764876)
    Mozilla.org is really getting hammered. Try waiting a few hours for the mirrors to update.

    Here is a Google cache of the Firefox Mirror List [64.233.183.104].

  • by Zarf ( 5735 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:08AM (#10764877) Journal
    I've managed to download a copy and order a t-shirt and the site isn't slashdotted yet. What are you all asleep or something?
    • Re:Mirrors (Score:4, Informative)

      by LogicX ( 8327 ) * <slashdot@logicx.COFFEEus minus caffeine> on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:16AM (#10764951) Homepage Journal
      Direct Mirror [100bigcoupons.com] to Firefox Setup 1.0.exe [100bigcoupons.com]
    • Re:Mirrors (Score:4, Interesting)

      by LogicX ( 8327 ) * <slashdot@logicx.COFFEEus minus caffeine> on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:27AM (#10765039) Homepage Journal
      Also don't forget about the excellent resource of Moox [www.moox.ws]'s optimized releases of Firefox: http://www.moox.ws/tech/mozilla/ [www.moox.ws]


      His site seems to be holding up under the stress.
      He has Optimized Release Builds of FireFox 1.0 [www.moox.ws]

      I'm still waiting for 1.0 with SVG.
      Anyone?
    • by tksh ( 816129 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @09:16AM (#10765468)
      If you're wondering what's new in 1.0, here's a link to the unofficial changed log [squarefree.com] (link grabbed from mozilla.org's FF release notes).

      In case it gets slashdotted, new features:
      • New options for controlling where links from other applications open.
      • New experimental options for controlling where links in web pages open. To make these experimental options appear, set browser.tabs.showSingleWindowModePrefs to true in about:config.
      • Firefox is now available in 14 languages.

      And improvements:
      • "Sort by name" in Bookmarks should sort siblings, not children.
      • Information bar (blocked popup, missing plugin, etc) should be closeable.
      • View Source should use Find Toolbar.
      • Find toolbar loses content when new tab clicked.
      • Disable sites reloading onresize. (Many sites reload onresize to work around bugs in Netscape 4. This caused problems in Firefox due to tabs, the Find bar, and information bars.)
  • Old news (Score:5, Funny)

    by geirlk ( 171706 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:10AM (#10764888)
    Got it 5 hours ago.
  • by tinla ( 120858 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:10AM (#10764891) Homepage Journal
    The new homepage points to http://www.google.com/firefox [google.com]. Fire your conspiracy theories at will...
  • by Michael_Jarvis ( 10688 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:11AM (#10764897)
    Your extensions will be disabled unless they are configured as compatible with 1.0. Unfortunately right now trying to use the built in "search for updates" feature is very slow, from server load I presume. I found updates for several of my favorites by searching http://www.mozdev.org/ [mozdev.org].

    • Workaround. (Score:5, Informative)

      by nlinecomputers ( 602059 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:57AM (#10765295)
      Open Firefox and put about:config in the address line.

      Put app.extensions.version in the filter.

      Change value from 1.0 to 0.10

      Most, if not all, extensions that work in PR should work now.

      Your extensions will have to be reactivated by right clicking on each extension and selecting Enable.

      Use at your own risk...Lawyers make me say that...
  • links to torrents... (Score:5, Informative)

    by r1ch ( 166865 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:12AM (#10764904)
    before it gets hammered too badly:

    linux i686 torrent [mozilla.org]

    win32 torrent [mozilla.org]

    (both EN-US).
  • A better mirror? (Score:5, Informative)

    by dschuetz ( 10924 ) <david@@@dasnet...org> on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:12AM (#10764905)
    For now, at least: ftpmoz.newaol.com/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases /1.0/ [newaol.com]


    Anyone know if the New York Times ad went through? Is it available to view anywhere?
    • Re:A better mirror? (Score:5, Informative)

      by ewithrow ( 409712 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:18AM (#10764967) Homepage

      Anyone know if the New York Times ad went through? Is it available to view anywhere?

      The design has not been finalized yet. Also, when they submit the final design to the New York Times, the newspaper gives them a window of about three weeks for which the ad could run. This gets Spread Firefox a better price.
  • BBC front page Story (Score:5, Informative)

    by GillBates0 ( 664202 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:13AM (#10764913) Homepage Journal
    New browser takes on Microsoft [bbc.co.uk]. Pretty fair coverage IMHO.
  • Runs like a breeze! (Score:5, Informative)

    by choas ( 102419 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:13AM (#10764920)
    For the Europeans: http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ [mozilla-europe.org]

    Donkey:

    OS X Will rule this world [ed2k]
    Windows Exe [ed2k]
    tar.gz [ed2k]

  • Good grief (Score:5, Funny)

    by Hortensia Patel ( 101296 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:15AM (#10764928)
    When the Grauniad and the BBC report this story hours before it appears on Slashdot, you know something's wrong with the world.
    • by Noksagt ( 69097 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:59AM (#10765315) Homepage
      When the Grauniad and the BBC report this story hours before it appears on Slashdot, you know something's wrong with the world.
      Fortunately, the /. editors are already hard at work making plans to repost the story early to make up for lost time.
  • More Links (Score:4, Interesting)

    by aliebrah ( 135162 ) * on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:18AM (#10764961) Homepage

    I've posted some more interesting news and Mozilla developer blog links and a screenshot of the new Firefox Google search interface on my blog:

    inside aebrahim's head - firefox 1.0 is here! [ebrahim.org]

  • Rendering slashdot (Score:4, Interesting)

    by nmg196 ( 184961 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:18AM (#10764966)
    Well I'm reading this in Firefox 1.0 and it *still* doesn't like slashdot's code. It still occasionally renders the comments overlapping the left hand menu and it initially rendered this "post comment" screen double width - with the left hand menu titles taking up my entire screen. I haven't encountered any problems with any other sites, so I expect it's just slashdots dubious HTML that's confusing firefox. Mind you I hate to admit that I've never seen IE mis-render slashdot.

    Has anyone else seen Firefox render slashdot incorrectly?

    It can usually be fixed with a simple click of the reload button (F5).

    • It's fixed (Score:4, Informative)

      by sethadam1 ( 530629 ) * <ascheinberg@@@gmail...com> on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:27AM (#10765040) Homepage
      If you download one of the nightly builds, you'll see it's actually fixed in the "trunk," but not in the "branch" 1.0 came from, because it apparently caused too many other flaky reactions.

      bug 264913 [mozilla.org]
      bug 217527 [mozilla.org]

      The good news is that Slashdot WORKS again in the nightlies. If you really want, you can grab a nightly build here [scarlet.be] and check it out for yourself. They are generally pretty stable, but thy sometimes f with your extensions.
    • by Masa ( 74401 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @09:16AM (#10765466) Journal
      Has anyone else seen Firefox render slashdot incorrectly?

      Yes. And I've seen some other sites render incorrectly too.

      In Slashdot case, simply Ctrl-+, Ctrl-= should do the trick, but unfortunatelly there are some sites out there, where even this trick will not fix the page. Also, there seems to be some sort of CSS rendering bug in Firefox, which fucks up Bloglines.com, if you use some proxy server.

      There are some other bugs still in Firefox, which haven't been fixed even if there are several bug reports about these issues. (rendering, lock-ups, etc.)

      There also seems to be a way to work around the pop-up filter. I've bumped into sites, which are able to open tons of pop-ups and crash the Firefox even if the pop-up blocker is on. I need to investigate this issue a bit more and file a report, if there already isn't a bug report in Bugzilla.

      So, you're not only one having problems with Firefox.
  • Next, SVG (Score:5, Interesting)

    by wombatmobile ( 623057 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:18AM (#10764971)

    Next desire, native SVG [mozilla.org] support so FireFox wins the enterprise space before Longhorn even gets to market.

    We have two years.

  • Spread the love! (Score:5, Informative)

    by jacoplane ( 78110 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:25AM (#10765028) Homepage Journal
    Help out grassroots advocacy for Firefox @ Spread Firefox [spreadfirefox.com]. This is the community that organised the NYTimes add.

    The site seems to be down so here is the Google cache [64.233.183.104] and the Corel link [nyud.net].
  • by Kingpin ( 40003 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:27AM (#10765038) Homepage

    What are the top 10 reasons to use FF over IE? I'll start:

    1. Security
    Any really good arguments here?

    2. Standards
    Open standards ensure that independent vendors can compete on fair grounds. The W3C is the de facto standards body for internet standards. Firefox is implemented from the ground up based on those standards. Standard compliant websites will show in any browsers (on any platform) that also complies to the standards, and not just in a specific browser with its own standard.

    3. Extensibility
    Different users have different needs. For most, the normal Firefox distribution has all required features. For some, a specific extra feature is of considerable value. Firefox has support for plugin's, which is small custom components of code that can deliver near any functionality.

    4. Reliability
    In firefox, what you see is what you get. No hidden agendas, no spy-ware installing behind your back.

    5. Comfort
    Do you remember how the internet was a few years back when there were no annoying pop-up's and you didn't have to worry about spyware installing on your machine behind your back? With Firefox, you can once again realize that blissful sensation of using the Internet.

    6. Continuity
    Firefox is not going to stop innovating at 1.0 or whenever it has market dominance. Firefox is here to stay, and to keep evolving.

    7. Slickness
    Firefox has stunning looks and sleek controls. You can download a theme with a few clicks, or you can create your own. Firefox is hot, Internet Explorer is not.

    8. For the people, by the people
    Microsoft [com.com] is not your friend. Firefox, like much open source software, is built for the people, by the people. You'll find that Firefox is surrounded by an enthusiastic community of supporters, not big business. Firefox, like other Open Source Software, is built, maintained and supported by people who believe in sharing, cooperation, and community.

    9. ?

    10.?
  • by mwood ( 25379 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:29AM (#10765053)
    You mean, they should all get together and make themselves equal in size? :-)

    Or was that meant to be, "commence?"

    ObOnTopicComment: Yes, Firefox is darned good. You should try it.
  • And not only that (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jandersen ( 462034 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:29AM (#10765054)
    Unfortunately Firefox 1 also comes with a number of 'improvements' that are rather dubious. The two that I personally dislike are:

    1. The 'default plugin' which used to be a dynamic library called something like 'libnullplugin.so' is now statically linked in, which means that you can't just remove it. What it does is nag the you every bloody time you go to a page that wants to display something that requires a plugin; these plugins are used intensively in adverts, which is why I don't have them.

    2. There has always been a way to search in the displayed page - go to 'Edit -> Find in This Page' in the menu, or press CtlF. In earlier versions you had to press the 'Find Next' button in the search dialog in order to start the search. In Firefox 1.0 the search happens as you type. Some people like it, apparently, but to me it is incredibly disruptive. There are situations where you definitely don't want this functionality; one such is if you, like me, feel it hard to concentrate on the dialog box when the background moves. Another, rather lengthy example is the following:

    Assume that you work with a big text that contains a large number of complicated words, like eg (WARNING: its huge):

    http://flora.huh.harvard.edu/china/mss/volume25/ Or chidaceae_coauthoring.htm

    This is a botanical text about orchids in China, and it is full of exotic names. Let's say that you have found 'Hemipilia kwangsiensis', and you want to find other occurrences of 'kwangsiensis'. If you are like me, you press CtlF, type the word (none of this mouse stuff for me if I can avoid it) and press [Return]. Except that the wods you are looking for disappears as soon as you start typing, and now you have the problem of finding the original place in a text of about 900 pages printed. And all that just to be cool. It would definitely have been nice with an option that could turn it off.

    Apart from that it is a good browser; definitely better than IE. I can recommend v.0.9
    • Re:And not only that (Score:5, Informative)

      by the_quark ( 101253 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:51AM (#10765241) Homepage
      I'll address your second first, because it's easier. Go to Tools->Options->Advanced->Accessabulity and uncheck "Begin finding when you begin typing." I'm not 100% sure that addresses all your concerns, but it's a start.

      On the first one - I realize this is a lot more of a pain than deleting libullplugin, but I think I have solution for you. I presume you are mostly complaining about flash. Download and install the adblock extension. Ad an adblock extension for *.swf, and adblock will block all flash for you, and I'm betting that'll happen before it looks for the plugin and stop the warnings.
    • Re: Find (Score:5, Informative)

      by akiaki007 ( 148804 ) <aa316 AT nyu DOT edu> on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @09:04AM (#10765352)
      First of all, by default, you have to type '/' to activate the search as you find tool. Also, the Edit->Find features are still there. Type Control+F and the field will come up so you can type in whatever you want. And then you type in what you want, and then hit enter. Then to search again you can hit F3 or Control+G. So I really don't understand your gripe at all. If you want to change the search/find utility to automatically search as you type (meaning, no typing '/' first), then you can do that as well via Tools-Options->Advanced->Accessibility->2 nd Option.

      So...I'm pretty sure I understood your post correctly, but it didn't make much sense, because you can still do CtrlF, F3 as you did before. That has not changed. If I'm wrong, then reply to this.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:30AM (#10765065)
    ...is when is the Mozilla Suite [mozilla.org] (which is here now, reliable and stable) going to have the new features [mozilla.org] in Firefox like live bookmarks (RSS feeds as bookmarks) and improved tab controls (a pretty killer feature as you can set URLs opened by other programs to always open in a new tab instead of 'raping' your current one). Plus, when is the suite's mail client getting the juicy new features from Thunderbird [mozilla.org] such as RSS support, saved search folders (a real killer feature) and improved grouping?

    I don't understand why Mozilla is ignoring the suite. It's a great product and is widely used. I personally have been seriously using the suite since about 0.6 and I can't understand why everyone's gone against it. If you have even 256 MB RAM it's fast. Yes it does take longer than IE to load up, but I start up Moz when I start my PC and don't close it until I shut down.

    I think it's sad the development of the suite has really slowed now.

    • by CTho9305 ( 264265 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @10:01AM (#10765818) Homepage
      The suite is not being ignored. Live bookmarks are in the Suite, as are all the Thunderbird features you mentioned. Tabbed-browser improvements are being added as well.

      The reason you don't see this yet is development happens on trunk (currently 1.8a6), but the current release is on the 1.7 branch. Generally when a version branches, features are not backported to it - only more important and stable updates (crash fixes, rendering fixes, etc) get included. If you download a trunk nightly, you'll find all of these features.

      Unfortunately, due to the Firefox hype, there are few users testing the 1.8 alphas, meaning that 1.8 will have to stay in alpha longer (it's on alpha 6 right now) before moving to beta and eventually release. A lot of the developers who work on Mozilla projects don't use, like, or care about Fireofx - the suite is not going to die any time soon.
  • Use Mirrors (Score:5, Informative)

    by loconet ( 415875 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:34AM (#10765096) Homepage
    Please people, use the mirrors or the mozilla.org ftp redirect. The plugin finder is suffering from the slashdotting and massive surge in traffic. We don't want to drive people away as the first thing they experience is problems finding/updating their extensions/themes.

    http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rel eases/ [mozilla.org]

  • by clubin ( 542806 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:40AM (#10765139)
    Using the executable installer to install to the path of my existing Firefox installation (PR1) resulted in the browser's shell completely flaking out when the browser was eventually launched. No start page would load. The Bookmarks menu was empty (clicking on Manage Bookmarks and then returning to the Bookmarks menu solved this). Visiting web pages didn't seem to affect the interface whatsoever (i.e.: no active back button, no loading page animation, no updating of location bar, etc.). In general, the shell seemed disconnected from the application itself.

    A normal uninstall, followed by a re-install did not solve the problem. Files were left in the install directory and, when prompted, I chose to wipe out the entire directory. Only after performing a complete uninstall (completely deleting the install path, but preserving the profiles) and reinstalling did Firefox work properly. Your mileage may vary, but I hope this isn't a widespread problem, as a 1.0 release isn't the time for screwups like this.

    Might I have been doing something wrong? Installing a new version to the old path seems to be a a well-supported idiom, as I've been doing that for ages without problems with all manners of programs.
  • by Deathlizard ( 115856 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @08:44AM (#10765174) Homepage Journal
    I just installed Firefox today, and being a Mozilla user there's one thing that firefox doesn't do that mozilla does that I've grown accustomed with.

    In Mozilla, you could hide the sidebar by clicking in the middle of the edge of the sidebar. In Firefox they removed that and now to close the bar you have to click on the X
    similar to how IE handles them. It also seems that you cannot merge sidebars, such as the history and favorites, so you can't view them both at the same time.

    Is there a theme or a way to return that functionality in firefox short of rewriting the whole thing?
  • by citizenkeller ( 584425 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @09:07AM (#10765381) Homepage
    This is mainly aimed at Windows users (we know you're there!), but here it goes:
    1. Read the "Why Use Firefox? [mozilla.org]" document
    2. Go download [spreadfirefox.com] Firefox and install it
    3. Use Firefox as you default browser for 5 days
    4. If, after 5 days, you're still not convinced that Firefox is the best browser there is, uninstall it [texturizer.net] and switch back
    (From an original idea on Spread Firefox [spreadfirefox.com], but the site is -surprise!- currently unreachable)
  • by Nice2Cats ( 557310 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @09:35AM (#10765601)
    ... that you don't have to give a rat's ass anymore about what opering system you use. I run Firebird on Linux and run Firebird on Mac OS X and would run Firebird on Windows NT at work, except for the fact that my company has a contract with Microsoft that forbids us using anything but their software. Same thing with OpenOffice.org: Who cares anymore what the operating system is? Edit the same files with the same program on different systems. All for free. Oh, and did I mention the Videl Lan Client (VLC)?

    The same might be true at some point for ThunderBird, but at the moment, KMail is just so far ahead of everything else that hurts. When that happens, though, Microsoft should be very, very afraid: If you don't need to care about the operating system anymore for 95 percent of the things you do, you don't need to pay all that money to actually buy one from them.

  • by mwilliamson ( 672411 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @09:55AM (#10765785) Homepage Journal
    Dammit! I'm left with an empty bookmark folder and to my dismay, bookmarks.bak has also been overwritten after installing firefox 1.0. Be warned!!!
  • Don't forget (Score:4, Informative)

    by Phantasmo ( 586700 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @10:38AM (#10766134)
    the student/IT worker's best friend, Portable Firefox [nyud.net]. Works great off of my USB keydrive. :D
  • by Fnkmaster ( 89084 ) * on Tuesday November 09, 2004 @10:53AM (#10766277)
    If you are a regular Slashdot surfer, you might want to check out my extension, SlashFix [hardgrok.org] which fixes the very annoying Slashdot rendering errors in the Firefox 1.0 branch.

    These errors are fixed in the Mozilla trunk source code, but for apparently sound reasons, the developers didn't want to check the fixes into the 1.0 branch, apparently because they caused problems with some other, unnamed web sites. SlashFix is a good interim solution so you don't feel compelled to start up IE just to surf your favorite geek time-waste.

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