Google Adds News Personalization 242
downbad writes "ZDNet is reporting that the Google News home page is now customizable, allowing you to add or delete main news categories (such as business, sports and so on), as well as increasing or decreasing the number of headlines within a section. They've also introduced a feature that lets you create your own section using keywords for a topic that interests you."
Being a mobile user I love the text only option... (Score:5, Informative)
While you can modify the layout to left justify almost everything now it still doesn't remove the "customize this page" box and a couple of stories (from Top Stories) on the right side. Oh well it's still in beta
Re:Being a mobile user I love the text only option (Score:3, Interesting)
It's a shame this only works for web searching, not Groups or News. News returns a file too big error, even with the text-only version you mentioned. Is there a way to get a mini-version of the news site as well?
HTML !=TEXT/PLAIN (Score:2, Insightful)
i hate it when search engines say "text version" when in reality its just "less html", look at the google "text" page bullshit
it has images,colours,tables,fonts,css,script, in fact all the things that somebody expecting a "text" doesn't want, its pretty obvious they fail to see the whole point of having a "text" mode
call it "lite html version" but "text version" it certainly aint
Re:HTML !=TEXT/PLAIN (Score:2)
Re:Being a mobile user I love the text only option (Score:2)
text option is great, but not customized (Score:2)
The problem so far is that after you customize the news, it's not custom on the text page. They could let you choose which headings to view and the number of stories in each heading. That would be cool.
More function, less form.
J
Google devotion (Score:5, Insightful)
No (Score:4, Informative)
Re:No (Score:2, Informative)
That's 8 years by my reconing.
I mean, yeah, Google is pretty cool, but man, people really gotta get off their jock.
Re:No (Score:2)
Re:Google devotion (Score:5, Insightful)
No. Because if Yahoo! did it, it would be cluttered with ads and unusable, but if google does it, it is a new useful service that is interesting and makes intelligent use of new implementation of current technologies (like the drag&drop customization of the news items that interest you).
Re:Google devotion (Score:2)
Re:Google devotion (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Google devotion (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Google devotion (Score:5, Insightful)
While I mostly agree with what your'e saying with regards to google's benevolence, you CAN'T argue that when they do things, they do them pretty well. They DO have the most useful and least obtrusive search engine. Their email system has the best interface I'VE ever used for a web client, and it's lightening fast compared to all the other biggies (yahoo, hotmail). Their new map system is really fast and easy to use - missing a few features, not ready for primetime, but still faster and easier than mapquest or yahoo! maps.
The Slashdot community is acting like a bunch of little fan-boys--big surprise--but that doesn't mean that they're not at least in part correct. As long as google keeps doing things right, WHATEVER their motive (which is obviously to make money), peopel are gonna continue to love and praise them.
Re:Google devotion (Score:2)
Of course, I like the google stuff on slashdot, but you'd expect that.
Chris DiBona
Re:Google devotion (Score:2)
Re:Google devotion (Score:2)
There was one small bug in the interface, I've reported it and also found a workaround, so it's all good.
Anyway, my point is: if MyYahoo has the custom block (based on a keyword or phrase) feature, then it's hideously buried, because in my five years of using
Re:Google devotion (Score:2, Informative)
There was a time, certainly, when it was true, but not anymore.
I've been playing around with my.yahoo.com lately. The level of customizability and ease of use is on par with anything Google does*. Not knocking Google, but only giving Yahoo! its due credit.
To answer the grandparent, of course not! I know this because, well, Yahoo's been doing this for a while....I didn't see a slashdot.org headline. Anyone else?
* the irony is that Firefox + RSS is just as, or even more, capable than
Re:Google devotion (Score:2)
Observe how it neatly colour codes the different sections, gives a photo for most stores, and is generally pleasing to the eye. They make it very easy for you to quickly skim over the headlines to look for something you're interested in.
There is still plenty of room for improvement, but I hope they focus on making it easier for users to get n
Re:Google devotion (Score:5, Insightful)
Every time they come out with something new, everyone says "oh cool, i'll use that!" But look at Yahoo's homepage after ten years of that business. I'm sure there are some good services in there, but it's hard to find them among all the ... other good services.
Re:Google devotion (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Google devotion (Score:2)
So you would rather Google not create new good services so as not to confuse you?
Re:Google devotion (Score:2)
Everyone says that Google is different than Yahoo, because Google's new services are innovative and have cool high-tech interfaces. Well, back when Yahoo was in full-bloat grow-mode, their services were pretty cool and innovative too. But then they were left to maintenance and became, without changing, the old and crusty services we expect from Yahoo today.
Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying Google has already succumbed to that fate, or eve
Re:Google devotion (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Google devotion (Score:2)
Is that a question?
Go figure - their market capitalization is (say) about 50 billion. As the point of investing is making money, they'd better return 5 billion a year to make that about 10% ROI, otherwise they're screwed.
Now, 5b a year - that's 13mil a day, or in other words quite hard. They need to show more ads, get more viewers/visitors, etc.
They'll keep adding all kinds of crap, what else do yo
Re:Google devotion (Score:2)
Afraid that Google will turn into a place with many varying services?
Well if they hold the same quality as so far, I'm all for it.
As much as I'm all for Yahoo introducing any useful services.
What's this deal with "they offer too much useful services" thing so they're now evil on Slashdot? That's two separate things to me, something of all companies that Google has shown most in modern times.
Saw it this morning (Score:5, Insightful)
I think it's great. I'm a Canadian, currently in Chile, and in preparations for a move to Mexico. I am interested in US News, Canadian News, Mexican News, and International News. I could care less about Sports, Entertainment, and Health News, so I get rid of them. This is even better than workspaces for me.
Good work google.
Re:Saw it this morning (Score:2, Insightful)
One nice feature would be able to select news geographically (in particular for local news). Countries are not really a good granularity when you are close to the border. I suppose the ideal solution would be to have new geo-tagged, but we are not here yet.
Re:Saw it this morning (Score:2)
That's an excellent idea, you should develop it some more and sell it to Google
One example would be very useful, I think, would be the ability to select one or more countries to search in from the main Web search. Currently Google does this for the country specific subdomains (google.cl lets me restrict search to Chilean pages)
Re:Saw it this morning (Score:2)
Re:Saw it this morning (Score:3, Funny)
Isn't that pretty much the same thing?
Sorry, couldn't resist. :)
Re:Saw it this morning (Score:2)
On the serious side, the news that shows up for Canada and the US is wildy different from google news. I get tidbits of news from the cities where my family lives. I don't think anything that happens in Calgary will make the US news page unless it affects US Interests.
Re:Saw it this morning (Score:2, Interesting)
The first thing I did was think "yeah, this could be a really cool way to compare news bias..."
So I added two sections side by side: one from the UK "World News" section, and the other from the US "World News" section.
Top stories in the UK World News were
and yet neither story was mentioned on the US side. The top story in the US world news was:
Re:Saw it this morning (Score:2)
Re:Saw it this morning (Score:2)
But there's one feature I could really do with in Google News: the ability to customise news sources. Currently they link to stories from all sorts of new sources, and some of them I prefer not to use for one of various reasons (sites that always require registration are annoying). It would be great if they allowed users to create a whitelist or blacklist of news sources they want stories from.
Re:Could NOT care less (Score:2)
Re:Could NOT care less (Score:2)
Re:Could NOT care less (Score:2)
Thank you both for your concern about my grammar. I've never really thought about that one, and you're both right. I'll nod to your knowledge.
However, slashdot is not known as a haven for good grammar. There are greater grammar issues on slashdot than this one, such as the famous loose/lose. Heck, this peeve isn't even in the Everything 2 [everything2.com] list of grammar pet peeves. Perhaps one of you could add it so that other clueless clods like me don't have to be prodded.
Cheers,
Hamfist
Whats your custom section? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Whats your custom section? (Score:2)
Re:Whats your custom section? (Score:2)
Yahoo's been doing this for years... (Score:5, Insightful)
Yahoo's been doing this for years.
Ah, I forgot, it's Google. Anything as much as a difference in the atmospheric pressure around the Google campus makes the front page on slashdot.
Re:Yahoo's been doing this for years... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Yahoo's been doing this for years... (Score:2, Funny)
One Word (Score:5, Funny)
Porn.
Doesn't work AT ALL (Score:3, Funny)
I added categories for "Heidi Fleiss", "Anna Nicole Smith" and "Tonya Harding" which accomplishes the same thing I'd LIKE a "Porn" category to accomplish, but avoids nasty topics that are very bad for my libido.
Business Direction (Score:4, Interesting)
However, they won't be able to do so without becoming an ISP. So the question is, where and when will Google break into the ISP market so they can capture a gauranteed customer base to compete with Yahoo and MSN?
Is there a likely company for Google to partner with?
Re:Business Direction (Score:4, Insightful)
I don't think google is worried about capturing a guaranteed customer base, because they already have one. If somebody is doing a web search, the plurality of users already come to google. As long as they keep adding more features, I dont think they are going to have to worry about losing these users to Yahoo/MSN.
Also, if somebody wants to switch search engines from yahoo->google, they just change the URL. But if google gets into the ISP market, what incentive is there for people already happy with their Yahoo DSL service or Verizon/MSN Service to switch? They may save a few bucks (assuming google can even field a more competitive price), but they have to go through the entire hassle of changing ISPs just so they can have google automatically be their homepage?
Re:Business Direction (Score:2)
Re:Business Direction (Score:2)
Now... (Score:3, Insightful)
Next Week's Headline (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Next Week's Headline (Score:3, Funny)
Google Adds News Personalization
Re:Next Week's Headline (Score:2)
"Millions of users plagued by 500 & 503 errors."
Support for Opera (Score:5, Informative)
Wow, Google finally relased a product/update that works on the Opera browser. It took a long time for Google: Suggest, Maps, etc. to work properly on Opera.
Kudos to Google.
Re:Support for Opera (Score:3, Interesting)
Let's see...Google maps was unveiled on February 8. Opera (and Safari) support was added on February 28. Oh yeah, that's a horrendously long time...
whoopdy-fricking-doo (Score:2)
Customize news.google.com for your dictatorship! (Score:5, Funny)
Tired of unfiltered news from the democratic infodels of the world cluttering the mindset of your nation's population? Worry no more!
With only a few clicks of the mouse, you can customize the news categories, topics, outlets and reporters that you wish to be provided to your nation. Even better, use our genius inline search and replace system that lets you manipulate simple regexes to substitute chosen phrases with your own!
Just another service from your friends at Google!
(Well, it's an idea...!)
Re:Customize news.google.com for your dictatorship (Score:2)
I trust the "infodel" construct wasn't a typo.
Sub-Par (Score:4, Insightful)
personalized news (Score:5, Insightful)
Can you say "Targeted advertising"?
Re:personalized news (Score:2)
Share preferences (Score:5, Interesting)
Presumably, the code provided in the URL is a reference to a great big lookup table that they keep with everybody's preferences (custom search terms, layout etc). I have set up lots of custom search terms, and the URL is certainly not long enough to contain them all.
Re:Share preferences (Score:2)
And sharing's what it's all about.
Fun too.
http://news.google.com/news?ned=:ePkh8BM9E... [google.com]
ok (Score:5, Interesting)
Diamond Age (Score:5, Informative)
-Benjamin Meyer
Finally (Score:2, Redundant)
"Google is about to..."
"Google is thinking about..."
"Google is blah-blah..."
stories can now be moved to the Google page and off the Slashdot page?
Alternate reason? (Score:3, Interesting)
I mean, Google (or MSN, Yahoo or whoever does this sort of thing) should be able to find out some "personal preferences" of people depending on how they sort their news website, what they filter out and so on.
Even worse, are they using this to personalize Google Ads?
im amazed ppl dont see the dangers (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:im amazed ppl dont see the dangers (Score:5, Insightful)
Google News is good enough on its own without requiring the user to login and customize the search, so it's not like they're forcing you to provide your data. It's 100% opt-in.
Additionally, since a free email account can be 100% anonymous (unless they subpoena your name from your ISP, which they can't do on their own), there's no way to link all that data to an actual person. Think Google is invading your privacy? Change your account once in a while or don't sign up to begin with.
You tinfoil hat types need some common sense.
Slightly buggy (Score:2)
Add your favorite tech stories (Score:2)
"solar energy" OR "solar power" OR "wind energy" OR "wind power"
There's probably a more elegant way to state the search- but hey, I'm extremely lazy. I know I could have gotten alerts, but those just clutter my inbox... this format is quite a bit more convenient. Nice execution too
NO MORE SPORTS!!! (Score:3, Funny)
WAHOOO!!!
Re:NO MORE SPORTS!!! (Score:5, Funny)
Right On!! With the time you save not having to pagedown past the Sports Section, you'll have more time to write in your blog!
Re:NO MORE SPORTS!!! (Score:2)
I can now replace it with categories I find INTERESTING, like the "Heidi Hleiss", "Anna Nicole Smith" and "Tonya Harding" sections I just added!
WOOT!
They missed: NO subscription/registration (Score:4, Interesting)
I'd like to filter out all the sites that require some sort of registration to view them.
If Google did that and made it prominant, a lot
of those sites might change their policy since
poeple would be ignoring them. If not, then too bad
for them.
When can I customize (Score:2, Funny)
Epic just got closer to truth (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Epic just got closer to truth (Score:2)
Can you title your page? (Score:3, Funny)
Google ads? (Score:3, Insightful)
Top Stories section (Score:2)
Is Google still Google? (Score:5, Insightful)
So when I saw that they had added personalization, I assumed it was going to be something along the same lines, something that does my thinking FOR me, thank you very much. For example, wouldn't it be cool for the news page to adapt organically in response to stories you click on? So it would realize that I'm a golf fan (yeah, yeah, I'm even dorkier than the average /. user) and stop displaying all those NFL and hockey stories in the Sports section that I couldn't care less about.
Instead, we get the same basic layout customization and keyword matching that Yahoo has had for years (as many others have pointed out). I scratched my head for a few minutes about keywords I could use, but frankly my tastes are a bit too subtle to sum up in this way.
This could be a real story, but only if Google works a little of their statistical magic instead of taking a me-too approach.
Re:Is Google still Google? (Score:2)
Have you seen Findory.com [findory.com]? That's exactly what it does.
It's a personalized news site. It learns from what you read and builds a personalized front page. Click on a few stories about golf, go back to the Findory front page, and Findory will show you articles related to golf.
[Disclaimer: I work at Findory.]
So? (Score:2)
Let me customize where I get the news from, then I'll be happy. Choosing how many stories I'd want to display just isn't enough.
No more cricket news (Score:2)
BBC (Score:2)
I found the online format nicer then other news sites and a LOT nicer then dealing with a newspaper.
Then I read the articles on slashdot about Google having a built in political bias as to which sources show up on google news and Google censoring itself on their Chinese site at the request of the government of the PRC.
I also noticed that with American news outlets that South America does not exist and other countries only exist when they have direct dealings with the US ( a
God I hope there's a "No Michael Jackson" button. (Score:2)
Who says the age of free stuff is over? (Score:3, Informative)
The theory was that busy executives with no time to read the whole Wall Street Journal and no interest in serendipitous discovery of significant news items would gladly pay to get the news filtered so that they only saw items in the preselected categories of interest.
Yep, Individual.com [individual.com] still exists and appears to be operating on a business model of free-as-in-beer.
May the potlatch continue!
How about a 'no news on xx' option? (Score:2)
Not as many... (Score:2)
Re:Why? (Score:2)
Because, let's face it. Over the last couple of weeks, the news has been rather slow and /. needs to post something every now and then. Otherwise, all of us would lose interest.
Re:Why? (Score:2)
"News?" Who said anything about "News?"
You can't tell me I'm the only one here believing that money is not changing hands here. Because the Google and EFF stories don't appear in the little boxes off to the top and sides of the page does not make them any less than the paid advertisements they are.
I'm sure the rates are premium as well, cuz thi
Re:Why? (Score:2)
Your conspiracy theory doesn't make any sense. Everything I know about the slashdot editors tells me they are dumb (duplicate stories, bad grammar), but nothing tells me they are corrupt. When in doubt, assume stupidity rather than malice.
Re:Why? (Score:2)
How is arranging to have fannishly pro-EFF stories, laden with links making it easy to contribute, placed during quarterly EFF fundraising drives, a "bad business practice?" It's genius. And to an EFF lawyer, for whom it may make the difference between flying coach and business class back-n-forth between SF and DC, it's frickin' brilliant.
To assume that
Re:Why? (Score:3, Funny)
Marge: Do you want your son to become Chief Justice of the Supreme Court or a sleazy male stripper?
Homer: Can't he be both, like the late Earl Warren?
Marge: Earl Warren wasn't a stripper!
Homer: Now, who's being naive?
Re:Bah (Score:2)
It could have been even worse... (Score:2)
Re:Requires you to have cookies turned on (Score:2)