Colorizing Images and Video by Scribbling 272
Guspaz writes "Up until now, colorizing a video or image has been a painstaking and mostly manual task. However, researchers in Israel have come up with a new way of colorizing images just by making a few scribbles. The technique works on the premise that 'neighboring pixels in space-time that have similar intensities should have similar colors,' and also allows colorization of videos by 'marking' about one in ten frames."
Help! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:No, no, no... (Score:2, Funny)
A play on history (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:A play on history (Score:4, Informative)
Photoshop (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Photoshop (Score:5, Funny)
You have misspelled Gimp..
Re:Photoshop (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Photoshop (Score:2, Interesting)
Create a magic wand tool that requires multiple clicks on the various regions of the image and you'd have pretty good results.
Re:Photoshop (Score:2)
Re:Photoshop (Score:2)
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Gimp plugin... (Score:2)
Re:Gimp plugin... (Score:2)
What's the license on the MATLAB code?
Seems simple but... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Seems simple but... (Score:2, Interesting)
My application would be... (Score:2)
Being younger we went with "different" color schemes in our house, orange, grey, shit brown (all really fits too) but the upstairs is still *blah* and I can't imagine any color there than what already is. I've got paint chips taped up here and there and something like this would be nice to have at home (far off I know).
Taking a picture then scribbling on it would be a nice way of previewing paints. In fact I suggest here (in the op
Awesome! (Score:3, Insightful)
Coming soon, new dubbing techniques will allow easy substitution of the original actors' voices and dialogue with trite teen-angst to appeal to younger generations.
Re:Awesome! (Score:2)
Re:Awesome! (Score:2)
Second thoughts, belay that; silly idea!
Re:Awesome! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Awesome! (Score:2)
But I have a big problem with colorizing films anyway. Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean it should be done. The weak weak argument that "the kids won't watch it" fell on it's ass as the kids didn't watch the colorized crap either! Not to mention that at the time when colorizing was huge, music videos were the rage...and about half of them were in B&W!
Also, why don't
Re:Awesome! (Score:2)
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow was shot in B&W and then colorized, presumably to give it a "retro-futuristic" look. The device works rather well in the context of the film. I was halfway through the film before I realized what they must have done to give it that otherworldly look.
Re:Awesome! (Score:2)
The entire thing was green-screened in...all the backgrounds were CGI, the actors were real though.
So I don't know if that makes sense...
Re:Awesome! (Score:2)
It would if Star Wars had been in Black & White.
Re:Awesome! (Score:5, Funny)
Are you listening, Mr. Lucas?
Re:Awesome! (Score:3, Interesting)
It happens already.
Re:Awesome! (Score:2)
You mean as opposed to Technicolor? [wikipedia.org]
Re:Awesome! (Score:2)
Oh come off it you load of flamebait. Nobody is threatening your precious black and white films. If people want to watch the originals, they will. If they want to watch a new colorized vers
Clerks (Score:2)
Unfuckingbelievable. (Score:2, Insightful)
I am so curious what this could do for so many old movies...
Re:Unfuckingbelievable. (Score:4, Interesting)
Ruin them?
If you meant older color movies which have degraded, then I agree. This seems like a very useful technique for restoring the original vibrancy of colors to films whose media hasn't stood the test of time.
Re:Unfuckingbelievable. (Score:3, Insightful)
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Re:Unfuckingbelievable. (Score:2)
On the other hand, in cases where the director is DEAD... chances are he either doesn't care anymore or has bigger issues to worry about.
From a historical perspective I do think it's a shame if the original versions are lost or suppressed, but otherwise the result of colorization or anything else deserves to be judged on its own merits. Not whether it might offend dead people.
Re:Unfuckingbelievable. (Score:2)
Re:Unfuckingbelievable. (Score:2)
and they don't do it properly ever. if you're goin gto do that you might as well make a full remake of it(when thinking in hollywood terms).
Re:Unfuckingbelievable. (Score:2)
You don't think hollywood would want to re-release older movies or television shows to a younger generation to milk the franchise one more time? The content has already
Re:Unfuckingbelievable. (Score:2)
I thought the usual formula of bringing old movies up to speed and *trying* to appeal to the youth of today was to add Ben Affleck and re-shoot. Of course, shoot Ben Affleck and re-add might be preferable to most.
Re:Unfuckingbelievable. (Score:2)
I wouldn't care to watch a classic old movie with added color. Doubtless, in many cases the director would probably have used color if he could have, but the movie he
Mirror of the site, with images (Score:3, Informative)
Here is the coralized mirror [nyud.net].
Re:Mirror of the site, with images (Score:2)
Re:OT: coral and non-standard port numbers (Score:2)
I think this is a FAQ and Coral plans to fix it once they move off PlanetLab.
I sure hope they can patent this... (Score:5, Funny)
That's nothing... (Score:3, Funny)
If only the walls were breathing... (Score:2, Funny)
Been there, Read that (Score:3, Interesting)
Interactive Digital Photomontoge & Graph Cut.. (Score:5, Interesting)
Very cool stuff.
Pete
think consumer stuff (Score:2)
Industry applications are interesting, but nothing new -- the industry has been using this technology for a long time when it was more labor-intensive, because they can afford to.
The REAL impact of this technology will come when you see it migrate into new versions of iPhoto and Photoshop Elements. In Photoshop, recoloring a part of a photo is relatively easy, but it still involves a mildly complicated process of
Not a new concept (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Not a new concept (Score:3, Insightful)
If this can cut the work down to 1/10th normal it becomes plausible for the general public. While I'm no budding spielburg, I know a lot of people who might want to touch up the color quality of their wedding video.
application to motion video (Score:5, Interesting)
CPU cost (Score:2)
They are NOT applying these scribbles in real-time - they scribble, the computer **grinds**, and quite some time later an image appears.
With the kind of CPU power it would take to apply this sort of data in real time, you could probably get much greater compression using a very exhaustive wavelet search.
Ok, this doesn't look like rocket science here... (Score:2)
Take a grayscale image, and you already have the brightness and value for each pixel. All you do is add the hue component based on the color "scribbled" by the user. Stop filling with that color when you hit something that marks a definitive boundary.
Re:Ok, this doesn't look like rocket science here. (Score:2)
Re:Ok, this doesn't look like rocket science here. (Score:3, Funny)
That's the "and then a miracle occurs" step.
Tech Geeks vs. Film Purists (Score:3, Insightful)
The idea that one could color correct video with a few strokes from mspaint is staggering. Imagine if one could do this to color video, in real time... you could color-highlight an object and the computer could follow it without sensors or other pre-implanted devices, and that's not even a particularly original idea. This is awesome technology with applications probably well beyond what we see here.
Re:Tech Geeks vs. Film Purists (Score:2)
Why is this marked +5 Insightful?
I see NOTHING in the original post that mentions black & white films. It might be implied, but even then I don't see any mention about how black & white is better than color, or how colorizing an old film is bastardizing that work. Some people like to see films in their ori
Re:Tech Geeks vs. Film Purists (Score:2)
But hey, since you missed the point of that, it doesn't bother me that you missed the overall point of my post, which was in the second paragraph.
Cheers.
Re:Tech Geeks vs. Film Purists (Score:2)
Re:Jesus Tap Dancing Christ! (Score:2)
Intersesting seeing the artifacts... (Score:2)
I have a feeling this could be corrected with another scribble or two. Really a stunning piece of work. Very cool.
Comic books and the like (Score:2)
When I looked at a lot of B&W webcomics, I can see that they'd look better in colour (especially the ones where the artist does occasionally do vibrant colour cells, but usually don't have time). This could change that though... want to see what your character would look like with
Colorizing examples. (Score:5, Interesting)
http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/cjb/ [cam.ac.uk]
Re:Colorizing examples. (Score:2)
Realtime (Score:4, Insightful)
I wonder how much CPU power is required, if you could do this realtime or close to it would be quite awesome, but having to make your scratches and click "apply filter" then wait for 30 seconds would not be nearly as useful/efficient.
Plugin (Score:2)
They could use this in science fiction shows... (Score:3, Insightful)
Blurs? Fine background detail? Motion? (Score:3, Insightful)
The problems tended to be in the background, and they probably thought people's attention would stay on the foreground, but I think like many things in film you notice them subconsciously. Either the background is out of focus, in which case there are no sharp edges for the colorization to work on, or it contains a basically infinite quantity of detail as the background gets farther and farther way. Either way, it was extremely common to see uncolored areas in the background.
It was fairly common to see black-and-white paintings hanging on walls, for example. The walls would be some fairly uniform wash of plausible wall color, but nobody was going to take the time to handcolor the paintings hanging on them.
A similar problem concerned scenes with machinery in them, or anything with lots of complex, detailed motion (so that successive frames weren't similar). Thus, you'd see black-and-white printing presses operating in a colorized newspaper building...
In addition, the fact that the colorized faces, for example, were a uniformly colored wash, rather than varying in color as well as brightness, created a subtle kind of phoniness. To me, the result was the conveyance of a sort of emotional coldness. The colorized movies looked colored, but they didn't feel colored.
The exact opposite of the kind of lift you couldn't help feeling in the fifties when you saw a Technicolor spectacular--in the days when "Technicolor" meant that by golly you were watching genuine dye-imbibation prints from real color separations. Sweet as candy, but irresistable. (The effect does come through in the best DVD restorations).
Opensource? (Score:2)
Also, does anybody happen to know if a similar technique was used for the new Tom Cruise movie coming out? You know, the one that kinda looks like Waking Life in style?
Re:Opensource? (Score:2)
practical application (Score:2)
nature (Score:5, Interesting)
" The technique works on the premise that 'neighboring pixels in space-time that have similar intensities should have similar colors"
Interestingly, the retina exploits that same property of natural scenes to compress images. This correlation between luminance and color is an opportunity to throw out redundant information. The eye multiplexes color and luminance information over a single channel, transmitting luminance while discarding color at high spatial frequencies and transmitting color while discarding luminance at low spacial frequencies. First reported by C.R. Ingling, color/luminance multiplexing is an inherent property of the linear color-opponent center-surround receptive field. For a good explication of the subject, see:
Vision Res. 1985;25(1):33-8."The spatiotemporal properties of the r-g X-cell channel."
Ingling CR Jr, Martinez-Uriegas E.
Abstract: Analysis of the simple-opponent r-g receptive field of the X-channel shows that it is tuned to both high and low temporal frequencies, high and low spatial frequencies, and that its spectral sensitivity is both chromatic and achromatic.
holy shit (Score:2)
Applications for Art (Score:3, Interesting)
Go take a look at the "recoloring examples" in the coral cache. Also look at what a slashdotter did [slashdot.org] with the code. Photographers, designers and painters could do neat things with a filter like this in Gimp...
Green eyes? (Score:2)
Old news, criticism, a better website . . . (Score:2)
Levin et al were published by ACM more than a year ago.
Some criticism: Their website only shows images that show the strength of their method. They don't show any examples of it's weaknesses, and it does have some.
A much more interesting website would be this one:
http://mountains.ece.umn.edu/~liron/colorization/ [umn.edu]
A similar technique, a compa
Product Lifecycle (Score:2)
1) use in a carefully restored, prestigious film
3) good reviews and ratings/audience
2) creation of a mac based product
4) profit
but... oh yes
5) a slew of third rate knock offs that use the effect to justify a 5th rate plot
Dammit (Score:3, Interesting)
Which means that the current code is completely incompatible with Octave, as it depends on Matlab's implementation of imread() which returns image data as a three-dimensional matrix.
Going to see if I can get it to work easily, but there's a good chance I won't be able to.
Re:Ummmmm (Score:2)
Re:Ummmmm (Score:5, Interesting)
No. Fill just goes until it meets a boundary. This colorization is a lot smarter than that. It appears to notice the boundarys by the sudden changes of the temperature in the color of pixels. That way it can then make an educated guess on how much to color and when to stop. You can then optimize this by putting in more than one input of the colors you want to change. This effect is really quite amazing. Scroll down and look at the gif video of the birthday party. JUST AMAZING.
Re:Ummmmm (Score:3, Insightful)
My Emphasis added:
Flood fill would be described as:
See the differences? They are important.
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:4, Insightful)
Only save the intensity channel and a few bits of markup and you compress the stream quite a bit.
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:4, Funny)
"It's as if millions of lawyers stampeded the patent office and then suddenly... prior art."
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:5, Funny)
What's this? a slashdotter who knows what he's talking about?
He's a witch!
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:5, Funny)
The MPEG standard, knowing that porn tends to drive the industry, actually contains several optimizations for drawing things such as skin tones and nipples. Really.
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:2)
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:4, Insightful)
uncompressed: 24 bits per pixel X 4 pixels = 72 bits
compressed: 8 luminance bits X 4 pixels + 8 Red bits + 8 V bits = 48 bits
100 - (48 / 72 * 100) = 33.3%!
Wait
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:2, Informative)
I'm sure there are good reasons for the JPEG/MPEG method, and I'd be a bit surprised if the groups in question didn't think of this possibility, but I still think it should theoretically gi
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:4, Informative)
In other news, mathematicians still agree that 24 times 4 is 96.
YUV 4:2:0 saves 50% bits over YUV 4:4:4, more info on wikipedia (per usual) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroma_subsampling [wikipedia.org]
MOD PARENT DOWN! (Score:5, Funny)
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Thank you. (Score:5, Funny)
Any video with Divine is 4-dimensional (Score:2)
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Re:so... (Score:2)
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Colorized Audio (Score:2)
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Willy Wonka Video (Score:4, Funny)
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