Google Launches Google Code 235
ibjhb writes "Google is at it again and has launched Google Code. It appears to be "Google's place for Open Source software". " Can't say that I'm surprised that our old friend (and former Slashdot Author) Chris DiBona is working on this one. They have links to several open source projects, as well as to Google API information.
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While google will have some great features (as they have done with maps and answers) I dont believe it will be enough to cause a mass exodus from Freshmeat et. at. But with their leveraging power they will surely be the next generations choice.
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On the other hand, there will still be a Cowboy Neal Option in the polls.
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**What is code.google.com?
Code.google.com is our site for external developers interested in Google-related development. It's where we'll publish free source code and lists of our API services.**
besides than that.. *Why are you releasing code through Sourceforge?
Well, because they were nice enough to oblige, and because developers here like Sourceforge. Future homes for new projects might include Tigris.org or language specific sites like the Vaults of Parnassus and CPAN. *
yeah. ALL THE PROJECTS ARE ON SOURCEFORGE!
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Good point. Because Sourceforge, Freshmeat, and Slashdot are all OSTG [ostg.com] pages. This is nice to see Google taking an interest in OSTG, not competing with it.
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All you really need to do is spider freshmeat.net, download the tarball of the latest release of each app, and do a mass
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Well done, Chris! (Score:2, Interesting)
-russ
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Nice (Score:5, Informative)
It looks like rather than try to reinvent the wheel, they are utilizing SourceForge for hosting their code. It's nice to see that they aren't suffering from "Not Invented Here" syndrome.
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I guess they can expect a nastygram from Stallman any day now.
code.google.com FAQ (Score:4, Informative)
Code.google.com is our site for external developers interested in Google-related development. It's where we'll publish free source code and lists of our API services. A lot of people worked together to both prepare source code for release and prepare code.google.com for launch and ongoing maintenance. We really care about free and open source software (F/OSS) at Google, and this site is one aspect of that affection.
Read the rest of the FAQ: http://code.google.com/faq.html/ [google.com]
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The threat of Google getting
Sourceforge (Score:5, Informative)
That's cool, certainly, but nothing terribly exciting. Isn't this stuff that's already been floating around on the Google website? Or is this a quick-and-dirty attempt to match developer.yahoo.com [yahoo.com], which still looks to be more capable.
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That's pretty much the opposite of the problem I usually have.
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Another of those important innovations that Microsoft has pioneered [tweakxp.com]...
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Google Personals?
Google Quotes Database?
Google Car Insurance?
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Google can help you search billions of pages on the Internet, but it won't save you any money on car insurance.
Geico.
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Google Hitman
Google Interstellar Travel Booking
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Google and 20% time (Score:5, Interesting)
From the FAQ [google.com]:
People at Google keep saying that they get ~20% time to work on personal projects. I'm curious about a couple of things here.
Re:Google and 20% time (Score:3, Informative)
They're paying you to develop ideas, they may be your ideas, but you're using company time and resources to create them (ie: you're being paid to generate the ideas AND they're financing the initial development effort), so the ideas are their property.
I'm sure someone can come up with some philosophical way around this, but if it ever went to court, the case would prolly be over pretty quick.
~D
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In that case, though, who would ever want to work on personal projects there? I know I certainly wouldn't.
I think you're missing the point of these personal projects. The point is to allow employees some freedom in what they do for the company, not to pay them to work on their hobbies. Google's goal is to allow the employees freedom to explore interesting ideas in the hope that some of those ideas may ultimately turn into things that will make money for Google. All of the work in question is on Google time, and belongs to Google, the only difference is that one day per week the employees get to pick what they want to work on rather than just doing what they're told.
This is a scaled-back version of the approach taken by the best pure R&D labs: Hire very smart people and then don't give them any specific assignments beyond "Do something new and interesting."
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Given the large number of major thing discovered by pure accident [bbc.co.uk]. Maybe you would be better off hiring a bunch of incompetent idiots and carefully watching what happens when you tell them do something difficult.
Yellow Stickies (Score:5, Interesting)
An engineer wanted something to mark pages in choir books at church. He found an adhesive that they'd previously dismissed as too weak to be useful, diluted it further, and now we don't have to paint our monitors and walls . .
hawk
Don't spread convoluted simplifications. (Score:2, Informative)
First of all, he was NOT an engineer, but a scientist. Second of all, the 3M inventor of the Post-It note, Dr. Spence Silver, was NOT looking for a way to mark pages at churg, but rather "looking for ways to improve the acrylate adhesives that 3M uses in many of its tapes". Spenc
Re:Google and 20% time (Score:2, Interesting)
"Personal stuff" for me also includes photography, music, politics, blogging, etc. While those interests would likely influence I would spend my "20%" if I worked for Google, the "personal stuff" itself remains mine.
If you are paid as a software developer, it's not healthy career-wise to have all of your "personal stuff" also be pro
Re:Google and 20% time (Score:4, Informative)
It's one day a week, so that's 20% of working days, not hours.
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I assume it's one day a week. And it's "their own projects", so I assume Google don't own them. It's to keep their creative minds bubbling away.
Mind you, that's an awful lot of assumptions I've just made.
coredumper (Score:5, Funny)
Gee, I've always been pretty good at that!
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Slashdot author is helping run it? (Score:5, Funny)
Oh man, that's good... (Score:3, Funny)
koders.com ? (Score:2, Insightful)
Good to see (Score:2, Interesting)
it now 404's, yet was working yesterday as a 'prototype' of what a google for mac and on other systems could look like. Obviously the labs are having a fun week.
Re:Good to see (Score:2, Informative)
here [comcast.net] is a working mirror.
And theres also a zip available for your local running pleasure here [mirwin.net]
Plenty of people supplied mirrors and online copies inside the comments of the article.
Cue the Bowie Poag troll in 5,4,3,2,1... (Score:2, Funny)
C'mon Bowie, you know that you can't resist trolling Chris DiBona. Let us know about how Google Code was all your idea until he stole it from you!
Commercialization to come? (Score:5, Interesting)
But who will be the first to throw open the floodgates and actuallly provide unlimited API querying at a price? Businesses (such as (plagiarism detection), [copyscape.com] (rank tracking) and [seocount.com] (advanced alerting) are starting to be built out of this stuff, so there's obviously a genuine economy out there for the taking. [googlealert.com]
Interesting observation. (Score:4, Interesting)
What a coincidence!
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Google Too (Score:5, Interesting)
However, hosting all those Google API apps solely on Google is a bad move. Too many eggs in one basket. Better to host them on both Google AND Freshmeat/SourceForge. In fact, one great Google API app would be an automirror. Hosting at one is automirrored at the other. Which has immediate benefits in load balancing and uptime (no single point of failure). And longterm benefits of keeping the code free of capricious corporate decisions down the road
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http://code.google.com/projects.html [google.com]
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Good Show! (Score:5, Interesting)
The ubiquity of google and the respect they have gained over the years make them somewhat of a model company. While im sure there may be a couple of people who might dispute their company motto to "not be evil" I think most people would agree that google seems to be doing things the right way.
Google is well thought of by anyone who uses the web, not just geeks, but the PHB's and Grandma's alike. This brings me to the next point...
Google have got Microsoft worried - frustrated that they couldnt "own" google they paid google the greatest compliment- they redesigned their search engine that is functionally more than just similar to google - and to a certain extent the low graphic - no-frills feel!
It is interesting to see Google innovating and re-thinking many of the ways we use the web. Now that google are being visibly more active in open source - It couldnt be better press for F/OSS at this time - and damn that's really going to p*ss Microsoft off - I'd like to see them match this idea. In addition to this its certainly going to help to legitimise F/OSS to those PHB's who have been toying with the idea but afraid to test the water.
Its going to be extremely interesting to see what google has deep in the bowels of its R&D department waiting to come into fruition. Lets hope that they can keep their face clean in the process!
Re:Good Show! (Score:3, Informative)
Microsoft has several open source projects on SourceForge, and in the past has hosted sites like GotDotNet that allowed users to share libraries with one another. Microsoft developers would also post libraries they had written and allow other developers to see and use the code.
My favorite is perftools (Score:3, Interesting)
Opportunity (Score:2, Insightful)
I well code for a free t-shirt (Score:4, Funny)
UI (Score:4, Insightful)
Updates Blog (Score:3, Interesting)
The code.google.com update blog, and an easy way to subscribe to the RSS feed with Firefox
Pity, I had hoped for a specialized search (Score:4, Insightful)
So many projects have names that tend to return a lot of unrelated links when doing a search, it would be nice is there were a categorized search similar to that which they've created for Linux (NICE! Helps significantly. I've given it a browser link on my toolbar.).
Did he... (Score:2)
Hashtables that use memory the way you want them too.
Not invented here (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm also glad to see that they are using an existing and respected license (BSD 2.0) rather than invent their own. The other big companies (eg. Sun, MS) always have to create their own pseudo-FLOSS licenses when they release code, with their own little catches and gotchas.
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I feel so small and insignificant
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What I'd Like to See (Score:2, Funny)
I'd like to see some work done on this.
Uh Oh, Another DiBona Project (Score:4, Informative)
Chris DiBona is *the* guy that single-handedly killed themes.org.
For those of you who have not been around long enough to remember themes.org it was a wonderful, one-stop-shop for themes for everything. Until Chris took over that is, and then it went into a year and a half long dormant period where no updates were allowed by themers, only to eventually be folded into freshmeat when it was apparent that Chris was never going to deliver.
How the hell did he ever get hired by Google?
A bit off topic but... (Score:2)
More info available on http://slashdot.google.com (Score:3, Funny)
hmm...
DON'T GIVE UP YET! (Score:2)
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Yes, but shhh! It probably counts as trademark dilution or something - I wouldn't want Gordon the Gopher coming after me
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And Google Labs has Google Personalized Search [google.com] where you can flag open source as a topic of interest.
koders.com (Score:2)
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Although it could do with some severe usability improvements - why can't I select searches in more than one language or license at a time? Have sent them feedback.
bugzilla.mozilla.org (no links from
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From the FAQ:
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What? You mean there was no dupe for Apache yet?
Shit editors, what are you doing!?!
Re:In other News! (Score:2, Funny)
http://www.fuckedgoogle.com/ [fuckedgoogle.com]
maybe not the type of news they'd like, tho. :-)
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If it's a container filled with vinegar and water....
Re:Google Browser? (Score:2, Offtopic)
They're already all pointed to their servers anyway. Why bother getting involved in platform wars when you've already won?
Re:Starting Out (Score:2, Insightful)
I surely recomend python. its great for beginners and you will be very productive with it.and it should give you the 'coding itch' this book [amazon.com] is great for beginners.. stay out of C and C++ as your first language though.
esr's how to become a hacker [catb.org] is the best advice I can think of.
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Functional programming doesn't get a whole lot of attention, but if the guys at google are using functional-style programming so often that they feel it deserves a release on sourceforge, doesn't that make you wonder what you're missing in the land of procedural or object-oriented programming?
LISP might be the first functional language (among many other firsts) and has been around since the beginni