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Enlightenment GUI Software Linux

Elive Beta: Enlightenment Sans Commitment 57

Posted by timothy from the giant-candy-pacifier dept.
An anonymous reader writes "Elive, the ultra-slick Debian based Enlightenment (16.7 and 17) liveCD project has released version 0.1 for download. See the package and features list for more information. A screenshot tour is also available."
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  • ...I've been looking for an Enlightenment based distro for some time. Does anyone know of any others, and can this be installed on a hard drive like normal distros?
    • What's cool about Enlightment? Been looking at their website for some time and can't find anything useful. How does it compare to KDE or Gnome?
      • IMHO, GNOME and KDE are totally bloated and have not really understood the UNIX philosophy. They're also desktop environents rather than stand alone window managers (although I believe E17 will incorporate a file manager (correct me if I'm wrong)). Enlightenment also has a lot of swishy graphical effects which will appeal to people who like that sort of thing.
        • IMHO, i disagree on this point:
          GNOME and KDE ... have not really understood the UNIX philosophy
          They both have tried to translate the unix philosophy in the gui world. Where there is translation, there is interpretation and therefore we have 2 different point of view of what should be the unix philosphy in a visual environment.
          But to say they havent understood it, means you know a better way to translate it in the gui world and I'm really curious to know your ideas about that.
          • I think enlightenment or blackbox are a great way to interpret the unix philosophy. X provides the method, the wm provides the method, and any panel/dock or file manager should be seperate. enlightenment provides an easy way to get to a CLI (ctrl/alt/insert) and everything else is accesible from there in unix fashion.
          • This [monash.edu.au] was the best link I could find quickly.

            I'll quote from a discussion [joelonsoftware.com] that was linked to from a recent post [slashdot.org] on /.

            The Unix programmer will create a command-line or text-driven core and occasionally, as an afterthought, build a GUI which drives that core. This way the main operations of the application will be available to other programmers who can invoke the program on the command line and read the results as text. The Windows programmer will tend to start with a GUI, and occasionally, as an afterthoug
            • I don't see your point, really.
              If shell scripting is all that matters to you, both environment can do it. And kde even have the dcop environment to interract with the applications from the shell.

              But to me, unix philosophy is more abstract than just making a reference to or the use of, scripting.
              From what I understand of it, it means making the smallest piece of software possible so that you can build more complex uses by connecting them.

              Gnome did that their way by developping a lot of specialized librairi
      • Enlightenment is, quite simply, an attempt to prove that even as simple a utility as a window manager can have as much bloat as any of those fancy-pants application programs!

        The only thing it's missing is a lisp interpreter, and that may be because a lisp interpreter could actually be useful. :)
    • Most OSes with extensive package repositories (say... Debian) will have packages for it.

      Or you could just try compiling it from source (which is actually really hard for Enlightenment, since you have to go through each directory and compile each library, which takes forever, at least for CVS).

      • What I mean is that some distros are KDE based and some are GNOME based but none that I know of apart from this one are based on Enlightenment...
      • There used to be a distro called peanut linux, which was based on vector linux. It's a small distro that fits in a ~200MB iso and it came with enlightenment (no KDE or Gnome). It ran pretty smoothly on my old P3-600MHz workstation. Not sure if the distro still exists today, thought.
  • I like that 3D Firefox icon. Anyone know where to find it?

    • Re:Firefox/Mozilla icon (Score:1, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Found this [spreadfirefox.com], but I don't see a link to an actual icon file download.
      • It's a PNG file for linux - right click and click "save image as". Yes linux icons are usually that big.

        • wow (Score:1)

          by rebug ( 520669 )
          Wouldn't it scale terribly? I know on OS X icons are usually rendered at various midpoints between 128 px and 16 px so they can look good at any size. A 256 px wide icon can't look very good at 16 px.
          • some (if not most) icons are manually mipmapped (kde supports this - generally you put the 16x16 icons in a directory called 16x16 and so on), however this icon doesn't seem to scale badly at all and still looks fantastic at 16x16. Depends on the type and complexity of the icon I suppose.

  • bottom toolbar (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    That bottom-center taskbar is pretty snazzy.

    Anyone know where I can get it for OS X?
  • Is there any bootloader able to load an OS, even RO, from a ISO in a fat/ext2 partition?

    It would be cool.

  • Torrent Download (Score:1, Informative)

    by jmazzi ( 869663 )
    Incase the mirrors are slow or you prefer torrent:
    http://mirror.hrnoc.net/pub/torrents/Elive_0.1_nib eta_nialpha.iso.torrent [hrnoc.net]
  • I remember the good old days (1996?) when I downloaded and ran 'e', and it took 60% of my CPU just to display the background pic of a big flaming reflective marble

  • Enlightenment is Slow (Score:1, Interesting)

    by iignotus ( 877104 )
    This is great work and an interesting project, but Enlightenment is quite slow on my 750mHz p3, even to the point where the mouse falls behind when eyecandy is going off. Kde nor Gnome have these problems, even with SuperKaramba or GDekslets running.
  • As a recently (converted?) Mac user, one of the aspects of the system I most like is the fact that the Dock displays one icon per application, rather than one icon per window, which rapidly beomes less useful than it might be, but is the norm for Gnome/KDE/Windows.

    As a user, I'd much rather click to say, "I want to go back to _this_ application."

    If E17 has adopted the Mac paradigm in this respect I'm most impressed.

    On a more general note, I wonder how long it will take Apple Legal to become interested.
  • As the enlightenment website says in 'news' somewhere, http://get-e.org/ [get-e.org] is quite useful. It's probably less effort to follow this site then bothering to change your setup entirely. Go with whatever distribution you prefer.

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