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Firefox Hits 80,000,000 Downloads 329

asa writes "It's been nine months since the release of Firefox 1.0 and with tens of millions of users we most certainly are taking back the web. Today our Firefox web browser hit the 80,000,000 downloads mark. You can see the live counter over at SpreadFirefox.com."
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Firefox Hits 80,000,000 Downloads

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  • Obvious question (Score:5, Interesting)

    by syntaxglitch ( 889367 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @06:35PM (#13318270)
    ...how many of those downloads are unique users, vs. prior users downloading a new version?
    • Re:Obvious question (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Omnieiunium ( 872399 ) <canadiancanuckNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Sunday August 14, 2005 @06:36PM (#13318274) Journal
      That is what I thought as well. I know many times I have re-installed Mozilla / Firefox by just re-downloading the install file from that site. I have also done this on multiple computers. So I have easily contributed to at least 20 of those downloads despite being only one person.
      • by crs3210 ( 703074 )
        This is why I always save my installers. :)
        Also, does the new Deer Park Alpha count in this total?

      • A more important question is, who's in charge of that counter? Do you take anything you see at face value? Put Mr. Prankster as the website admin, and then when the counter hits 55 trillion, you wonder how it got there. When billions are spent on advertising in general, having control of such a simple device as a counter, well, the temptation is huge, for anyone pushing an agenda. You have to take everything with a grain of salt, even open source marketing spins, and instead evaluate and see for yourself. I
        • Re:In other news.... (Score:5, Informative)

          by fireman sam ( 662213 ) on Monday August 15, 2005 @12:21AM (#13319417) Homepage Journal
          "because some 10 year old script kiddie was allowed to donate code to it, without some oversight committee."

          Have you ever tried to get code submitted into the Mozilla CVS? Way back when I was working on it (0.8) each piece of code was reviewed by one of the main members, then super reviewed by another. "Super reviews" could not be done by any main developer, there were only a few that could do it.
        • You have a strange idea of Joe Public if you think VBA is simple enough for the average user. It isn't, it's a programming language. How many ordinary people do you know who can program even simple things?
        • Re:In other news.... (Score:3, Interesting)

          by rjshields ( 719665 )
          I for one prefer mozilla classic suite, with bundled email and composer
          Firefox has an easier transition from IE. The menu and toolbar structure is more similar. I don't think it's "dumbed down" as you say, but reorganised and more logical. Also, the download size is smaller.
          • one thing that's always bugged me is that i used the full mozilla suite prior to using firefox and briefly trying out thunderbird.

            firefox and thunderbird offer to import IE and/or outlook / outlook express settings & email but don't even offer the option of importing mozilla suite info.

            i've since heard that you can just 'point' firefox at mozilla's settings and it will pick up the bookmarks, but how is the average user supposed realize this kind of thing?

            particularly with thunderbird / mozilla - if i ha
        • by Dolda2000 ( 759023 ) <fredrik.dolda2000@com> on Monday August 15, 2005 @04:54AM (#13320019) Homepage
          Firefox is just way too dumbed down for my taste, last time I looked.
          Of course, you're free to use the Mozilla Suite however much you may want, but what has happened to Firefox isn't that it has been "dumbed down". It has simply been made a web browser, which I think is A Good Thing.

          Seamonkey (the Mozilla Suite), however useful, isn't exactly "well designed" in that it's too monolithical. If you want the web browser, you get the e-mail client, calendar, Usenet client and fries on the side with it, whether you want to or not. For those of us using other programs for mailing/Usenet posting/calendaring/whatever-else, that's just a waste of resources.

          The same thing goes for the plug-in architecture of Firefox. Those who don't want/need mouse gestures don't have to waste resources on them, for example. The plug-ins also allow for a more distributed development model, since people can contribute Firefox functionality as a plug-in, without having to contribute the code to the Mozilla Foundation.

          As for Firefox going submarine, that's not going to happen. The Firefox/Thunderbird/Sunbird suite is the official replacement of Seamonkey, which will stop being developed after a certain point (I don't remember when, however). And then there's the issue if why they'd actaully want to do that...

      • On the other hand... (Score:3, Interesting)

        by the_rajah ( 749499 ) *
        I've downloaded a single time and installed on multiple computers, some via network and others not on the network by using a "Utility" disk that I carry with me to install certain applications without having to go online unprotected when I'm cleaning up a compromised system or getting a new one ready to use. Some of the other applications on that CD are, Ad-Aware, Spybot, AVG antivirus, Zone Alarm firewall.
    • 3x for work because two of the auto-installs didn't work, 2x for Liz's comp, 1x for my laptop, 3x for burning CDs for people and my comp.

      So... bitshift.
    • by CarlinWithers ( 861335 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @06:43PM (#13318311)
      This topic has been discussed a good dozen times already on slashdot. The same conclusion is reached every time.

      The long and the short of it is that nobody knows for sure. The point isn't exactly what the number means (80 000 000 unique downloads vs. 80 000 000 downloads by a crazed fan), but that the number is increasing, and therefore so much Firefox use to some extent.

      Personally I've been installing it on customer's systems for a few weeks now as a way to beat spyware. Some of them adopt it, some of them don't. But those who do adopt constitute an increase in Firefox use.

      • by secolactico ( 519805 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @07:07PM (#13318424) Journal
        This topic has been discussed a good dozen times already on slashdot

        And will be discussed a dozen times over and over again because slashdot editors insist in publishing every single download milestone firefox reaches.
        • by mr_gerbik ( 122036 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @07:17PM (#13318459)
          And will be discussed a dozen times over and over again because slashdot editors insist in publishing every single download milestone firefox reaches.

          To be fair, Slashdot editors take a break from telling us about Firefox milestones every once in a while to give us the news that someone at Google just farted.
          • ... news that someone at Google just farted...

            ...while eating gourmet tofu cuisine made by the Google corporate Über chef and installing Firefox on a hand built PC with a radical case mod, running the latest download of Ubanto optimized for playing MMORPGs?

            • ...while eating gourmet tofu cuisine made by the Google corporate Über chef and installing Firefox on a hand built PC with a radical case mod, running the latest download of Ubanto optimized for playing MMORPGs?


              Dupe!! Dupe!!!
          • To be fair, Slashdot editors take a break from telling us about Firefox milestones every once in a while to give us the news that someone at Google just farted.

            Haven't seen too many google stories in this area.

            I always thought that they took breaks by posting dupes.....
        • by NotBorg ( 829820 ) *

          I personally don't care if its technically a meaningless statistic. Its the perception of internet users, the press, and the competition that is the important metric. The perception of competition is sometimes enough to spark innovation and creativity on the product line. Which means better products for me.

          Stop spoiling the fun. >:)

      • The point isn't exactly what the number means (80 000 000 unique downloads vs. 80 000 000 downloads by a crazed fan), but that the number is increasing, and therefore so much Firefox use to some extent.

        If nobody knows what the numbers mean then parading the numbers around is meaningless! (duh) Seems almost silly having to point that out...

        Now before anyone mods me down as a troll, let me explain my side... I use firefox on both my windows and linux boxes, ever since 0.9x, so I'd honestly be happy to hear it
    • ...how many of those downloads are unique users, vs. prior users downloading a new version?

      At least 10,000 was me.

      Anyway, the number of downloads is "interesting" but that's about all. What counts is how many people use Firefox as their primary browser. Still around 10%, I think. But that's not bad. I'm just afraid that IE7 may reduce some of the perceived advantages of FF such as tabbed browsing and some of the "appearance" things. Many people don't understand or care about technical issues...

      • Comment removed based on user account deletion
        • Tabbed browsing and popup blocking arn't awsome new features anymore, their the minimum expected features.

          "yes but Firefox had them first, er, OK than Micro$loth is just ripping them off again... Or something..."

    • Re:Obvious question (Score:5, Informative)

      by Eric Coleman ( 833730 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @07:04PM (#13318414)
      If you download firefox with the firefox browser you are NOT counted. Same goes for the update mechanism in the browser, you're not counted with that.
      This number is simply a metric which happens to be number of downloads. This is not the number of users. No one ever says that, although people seem to misinterpret the download count to mean active users.
      The download number is simply a way to guage the software's popularity. And if I may say so, 80000000 downloads is a good start!
      • This is not the number of users. No one ever says that, although people seem to misinterpret the download count to mean active users.

        Firefox continues this hype though by making big press releases and banners celebrating the number of downloads. You are correct that the number is basically meaningless, but it is not others that make it out to be something, it's Mozilla themselves.
    • There's also another question: how many people who downloaded FireFox actually use it? I imagine that there's a considerable number of people who do get hooked, but there'll probably also be lots who don't.

      I myself am an example. I've downloaded Firefox about half a dozen times in total (different versions), but even though I have it installed (mostly as a convenience for visitors who're used to it), I still use Seamonkey myself - and, for that matter, I consider Seamonkey to be superior to Firefox.

      I may no
      • I may not be a typical example
        At least I did the same, downloaded it at least somewhere between 5 and 10 times in the hope that it would be usable but at the current state I prefer Opera (even paid for it recently). And yes, I tried it for more than a few minutes, it is just not responsive enough and the manual extension updates on every Firefox update don't help convincing me to switch either.
    • ...how many of those downloads are unique users, vs. prior users downloading a new version?

      Well, I know I'm responsible for at least 15 of those downloads.

    • It might balance out...
      Some people download once and install on multiple machines.
      Some people download multiple times on a single machine (different versions).
    • Of course the other obvious question is how many people have Firefox without DLing it from Mozilla.org?
      I personally have 6 copies here of which I've only DLed one from Mozilla.org. Some came with Ubuntu and updates came from their site. My Debian version came from debian.org. My 3 OS/2 versions were built here and my windows version started out from a CD but was updated from mozilla.org.
      Meanwhile I seldom run Firefox. I find Seamonkey meets my needs much better and at least here it is faster.
  • by dj245 ( 732906 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @06:36PM (#13318271) Homepage
    not 80,000,000 users. I've probably downloaded the various versions of Opera at least 20 times, between new versions and new installs of Windows. The actual number of users is far lower.
    • by AngryElmo ( 848385 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @06:38PM (#13318283)
      On the other hand, I've probably downloaded it as many times as you (maybe a few less), but I've installed it on 900 PC's as the default browser...
    • I am not a statistician by any means and could not hope to come up with a reasonable figure without a bit of study into the subject .. but here are a few thoughts

      1:) distributed media (linux CDs , magazine covers) which could make the figure appear smaller

      2:) repositories and uncounted download sites (lowering the number again)

      3:) ???

      4:) profit (sorry couldn't resist)

      5:) mass installs from a single download (system administration of companies , installing it for family and friends (again lowering the number)

      6:) reinstalls and upgrades( which heighten the figure )

      7:)People trying it out (who may or may not continue to use the product after a trial)

      So it would probably require a fair bit of study to get an actual factual figure on the size of the user base

      • aye. None of my installs would be in that figure as I use Portable Firefox for Windows machines which was not downloaded from the Mozilla site. When putting it on a new computer I just copy my folder from my thumbdrive.

        On linux computers I get it through apt-get (which I would say ALOT of Linux users do) so I am assuming that would not be counted as well.

        I would take a guess that most of those downloads were the Win32 version. (That's a stat I would like to see... how many of the downloads were Linux/Mac/Wi
      • 8:) Also people building from the source -- I get my G4 optimized copies originally from here [mozillazine.org] but now from elsewhere.
      • If that's the number you're looking for (total number of users), you're much better off simply polling random people and asking them what browser they're using, then apply that number to web surfers as a whole. Finding one reasonably reliable statistic is easier and more accurate than finding five (or more) reasonably reliable statistics and then trying to extrapolate the actual number you're looking for.
    • With Mozilla you also have to take into account the downloads that didn't go through their own servers, which considering unlike Opera is probably a lot. My copy came with my distro, so the only way they are going to count that is...well telepathy (or counting distro's but that would get muddy).

      Just kidding about the chump thing, its Sunday.
    • How about setting up a site where everyone who has Firefox visits and it creates a unique cookie for every browser that visits it? Each browser is counted only once. Keep it open for a week and we should see some interesting results.

      or how about an extension that calculates a unique ID based on your hardware and sends it in? Yeah yeah, i know, privacy and all that...but here it is being used just to count Firefox users. Wouldn't you voluntarily install that extension to show you're a Firefox user out of she
  • And so what...? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by KiloByte ( 825081 )
    Well, we just had been notified of the 75M milestone.
    Do we really need to get told about the counter constantly? It's useless anyway, as all Linux/BSD distributions use their own mirror networks.

    When Firefox hits the 100m mark, it may be something half-worth of a note.
  • by objorkum ( 695401 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @06:39PM (#13318289) Homepage
    Almost all GNU/Linux distributions come with Firefox installed. The distribution makers only download the package once and include it in the distribution. There can be thousands of users of that package. My point is that this number is not a number that can be trusted, or am I wrong?
  • by DrHanser ( 845654 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @06:40PM (#13318292) Homepage

    My weblogs show that IE is still the dominant browser, even though my two sites are primarily trafficked by those who are tech-savvy (who you think would be using a browser other than IE).

    Personally, I know I've contributed to probably 50-60 of those 80m downloads, and I'm only one person. This is partly due to the assinine update mechanism. They really need a better way to deliver patches.

    • My weblogs show that IE is still the dominant browser, even though my two sites are primarily trafficked by those who are tech-savvy (who you think would be using a browser other than IE).

      How about posting some numbers? I run a few medium University sites (1k-5k daily visitors) with a decidedly non-techy focus and the last couple months have seen IE fall under 80% (not counting hits by the web developers and other department staff).

      Obviously IE is still dominant in absolute terms, but there's a huge differ
    • They all demand IE because "they support it" (i.e. they bill you a shitload to "fix" spyware, and if you use firefox AND finally get something, they won't touch it, heh, their financial loss either way, use firefox and help send their jobs to the trashcan, not india :) besides, maybe if everyone dumped microshit, we'd finally have IT jobs where we come up with NEW things instead of fixing the M$ trojan horse known as Windows).
      • I manage the computer network for a small financial services company, and I'm about to mandate use of FireFox. A small percentage of my users have a recurring problem with spyware, and so far all I've done is quietly recommend use of FireFox over IE. Last week a virus nearly destroyed a 300-page document that someone had been working on (yikes!), and so I repeated my sudgestion that IE be avoided except for those few sites that require it. Everyone within earshot became quite angry that IE is even available
    • Re: Patch System (Score:5, Informative)

      by Tiberius_Fel ( 770739 ) <felNO@SPAMempirereborn.net> on Sunday August 14, 2005 @06:51PM (#13318350)
      This is partly due to the assinine update mechanism. They really need a better way to deliver patches.

      If I recall correctly, they're working on a patch system that only alters the changed parts of the file (i.e. does not require full re-download and re-install). I think it's set for version 1.5 or similar.
    • Before my site went down last week for no obvious reason (and is still down), my highest traffic was from:

      MSNbot
      Googlebot
      Yahoobot
      Opera
      Something Mozilla based

      IE didn't even register.
    • It seems to vary from site to site:

      http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=25161 [theinquirer.net]

      The Inquirer is a fairly busy site and widely enough read to be a reasonable sampling of tech-savvy readers.

      Few visitors to my main sites (UK [investmentideas.co.uk] oriented, investment related [moneyterms.co.uk], mostly read during working hours) using Firefox. I think it is fairly obvious why.

      On the other hand only 14 of the last 70 visitors to my blog [pietersz.co.uk] used IE: about equal to Safari + Konqueror! Most of them are looking for my Wordpress plugins, both of which are

  • by Stevyn ( 691306 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @06:41PM (#13318297)
    Yes, the number of downloads from one place is a horrible metric to determine accurately how many people are using the browser. Some download it 10 times on one computer, others download it from their distro's package manager 10 times. Others copy it to a flash drive and pass it along to 10 other computers.

    So before everyone tries to get a +5 insightful for pointing this out, let's just be happy that a good open source browser that does it's best to stick to standards is doing so well.
  • I just upgraded to Opera 8.02 (usually use Firefox as my browser, but wanted to see what was new in Opera). Load /. to see the stories, and guess what was on top? w00t.
  • That has to be total downloads, right? Now unique downloads.

        I talked my boss at work into installing Firefox on every machine, and he's thrilled with the results so far. If you have any influence at your job, do the same.

        But that only counts as ONE download, since we installed that over the network. :-)

        So maybe that number is actually LOW.

      Rich...
    • On the other hand, how many times as Firefox updated? The 1.0.4, then 1.0.5, rapidly followed up by the 1.0.6 has vastly inflated the number of downloads such that it's a horribly misleading measure of actual users.
  • by MightyMartian ( 840721 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @06:43PM (#13318316) Journal
    New Jersey, NJ - Alberto Chumpout, a former McDonald's employee now living in his parents' basement says he's exhausted after generating 80 million downloads.

    "I'll be frank," he said, "next time I choose to artificially increase browser download ratings, I'll choose Lynx."

    When asked if he had slept during this incredible marathon of downloading, Chumpout croaked "Can you help me? All I see is red foxes. My dad said I should stop using the computer. Mom didn't bother me after I disembowelled and ate dad."

    Microsoft is said to be interested in hiring Chumpout for their upcoming IE7 campaign. "Download Internet Explorer 7 or Chumpout will Chump OUT On You" is said to be the slogan, winning out over "Download IE7 and win a chance to have lunch with Steve Ballmer", which insiders said was rejected because they didn't want to scare the consumer too much.
  • Odd Benchmark (Score:5, Insightful)

    by kevin_conaway ( 585204 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @06:48PM (#13318338) Homepage
    80 million? We get it Slashdot. People are using Firefox. Stick to 0, 50, and 100 if you must.

    On another point, wheres the discussion here? Are we all supposed to just pat ourselves on the back for a "job well done"? Whats the significance of this?
  • I decided to finally migrate from Firebird to Firefox on one of my PCs at home. As I started Firefox for the first time, it loaded a page from mozilla.org telling me that my version is already old (even though it is the latest, 1.0.6) and I should promptly download the newest one. "WTF?" I thought - don't the mozilla guys know what version of Firefox is available?

    So, they seem really supereager in making sure everybody who has Firefox downloads a new copy (or the same copy, depending on how alert you are).
  • by bahwi ( 43111 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @06:51PM (#13318358)
    Firefox Usage is about 5% and growing.

    Not much not much.

    But, at a store, you do not randomly kick out 1 out of every 20 people who walk in.

    5% means nothing, 1 out of 20 means much more. And growing just means it's something to pay even more attention to.
  • Am I the only one... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Otter ( 3800 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @06:52PM (#13318362) Journal
    ...still using straight Mozilla? Maybe I just haven't played with Firefox enough to get it set up the way I want but I find the Mozilla interface much more comfortable.
  • This is news? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by iignotus ( 877104 )
    Mod me flamebait, but do you have to make a headline on the front page whenever they hit a small milestone? Perhaps only posting when they've hit things like 50,000,000, 75,000,000, 100,000,000 etc., would allow for more timely news?

    We all know that the counter is steadily increasing and that the user base is growing rapidly -- but must this much news space be devoted to one subject?
  • by Twinbee ( 767046 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @06:55PM (#13318373)
    Firefox reaches 82,500,000 downloads. Only another 2,500,000 to go before the big one!
  • Wow (Score:5, Funny)

    by PunkOfLinux ( 870955 ) <mewshi@mewshi.com> on Sunday August 14, 2005 @06:57PM (#13318380) Homepage
    That's almost as many downloads as Windows XP Pro!
  • by XO ( 250276 )
    80,000,000 downloads, after there have been countless releases in this time frame.. and how long is this time frame?

    I've probably "downloaded" slashdot and fark's main pages 80,000,000 times personally..

    then again, i may have downloaded firefox and/or mozilla a couple thousand times too
  • by antdude ( 79039 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @06:58PM (#13318390) Homepage Journal
    Don't get too excited! According to Broadband Reports [broadbandreports.com] and ComputerWorld [computerworld.com]: "The streak of Mozilla's Firefox browser gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer has come to a grinding halt in July. For the first time since Firefox Version 1.0 made its debut, Internet Explorer was able to regain some lost ground. Firefox's market share shrunk to 8.07% in July from 8.71% in June, while Internet Explorer grew its share to 87.2% in July from 86.56% the previous month."
  • As I remember from past FF stories it's not actually a counter but rather a display that increments based on time and is brought in check with reality occasionally.

    Still, the numbers must be way off even with that - I have installed >10 machines off my tools CD (since then only autoupdated, which isn't counted) plus my own 3 Linux machines via the package repository, also not counted.
  • by helmetnerd ( 905678 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @07:01PM (#13318405)
    I love firefox, but there's something negative associated with the word 'spread' that I can't quite put my finger on.

    You can spread herpies, you can spread something tasty on your toast in the morning, but I'd leave "spreading" software applications to Bonzy Interactive Inc. or whatever the fuck they're called these days.
    • Sexual connotations aside, there's certainly a negative overtone to 'spreading' Firefox in a world where software is sold and bought like tangible products. It's like some people speculated on OSX86 that it was leaked as a marketing move; a legal free copy would be perceived as literally worthless. A copy of bits on a CD is somehow perceived the most precious of things, if you have to pay for it. If you have so much of something that you can just spread it around, it must be undergoing one hell of an inflat
  • How many of those are because of upgrades, like those due to security problems? Rhetorical question, though, since it's really hard to figure that out. It's easy to count the lines in a log file. :-)

    Of course, other vendors play by these rules, too, especially when they count the browser as part of the OS. Fight fire with fire, ya know?
  • no download link (Score:4, Informative)

    by kayen_telva ( 676872 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @07:31PM (#13318520)
    am I blind or is there no download link on spread firefox ? kinda silly aint it ?
    • am I blind or is there no download link on spread firefox ? kinda silly aint it ?

      It actually does make sense, from the page.

      "Spread Firefox is the central meeting place for the Firefox open source marketing effort. We are an authentic, creative, action oriented, and user-driven community."

      This site is for people already using firefox and wanting to spread its adoption, not for new users. It's kinda like separating user and developer mailing lists. A new user looking for firefox wouldn't likely be interest
  • People that complain about the ads at the top of the trial versions of Opera are complete faggots. If a company wants to give you a free trial of something they are going to at least either disable something / add something annoying / or limit number of uses.

    Why is it when Google used context sensitive ads in Gmail people did not complain half as much as they do about Opera's free trials. Opera is loads better / faster / more stable. Most of the Firefox "innovations" came from Opera.

    People say that Opera on
  • Subtract 1 (Score:2, Informative)

    by ChicagoDave ( 644806 )
    I downloaded it, installed it...didn't really care for it...uninstalled it...now am testing IE7. Jury is out.
  • Maxthon [maxthon.com].

    I use it, lots of other people I know use it, you can get it to do the end-user stuff firefox can do, the UI response is waaaaay faster, it works in the real world, and I've never had security problems.

    I've switched back and forth, using Firefox for better parts of a year (I only use my computer for web browsing, IM, movies, and as a terminal to *nix machines, really). I prefer Maxthon.
  • Help stop the Open Source (Communist) browsers from taking away market share from hard working corporations. Visit Spread Internet Explorer [spreadinte...plorer.com] now, before it's too late!

    The Communist browsers have been known to block advertising, denying American companies advertising revenue, and open pages in 'tabs', freeing up computer resources and thus destroying global hardware sales. This menace must be stopped.

  • by alucinor ( 849600 )
    I hear so many talk about tabbed browsing, popup-blocking, security, etc., but to me, the best feature of Firefox are the XUL extensions.

    Mozilla should really start pushing XUL as an application platform more. Also, it'd be great to see a bit more standardization in how the extensions integrate into the browser and with each other, so you don't end up permanently mangaling your browser with a bad combination of extensions.

    And I doubt IE will ever have AdBlock or StumbleUpon! Great stuff!
  • WHO CARES (Score:3, Funny)

    by bwave ( 871010 ) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @10:09PM (#13318937)
    I heard today that Ben Goodger took a dump. Later Tim Rowley scratched his nutsack. Is this /. or Sheep for Firefox group? There are many browsers out there, unless Mozilla foundation starts paying for all this advertising, I think there should be a ban on Firefox articles.
  • Is this a dup [slashdot.org], or we going to get another breathless "Firefox breaks another record!" every two weeks?
  • by Donny Smith ( 567043 ) on Monday August 15, 2005 @12:29AM (#13319454)
    In the past 12 months I have downloaded FireFox at least 30 times.

    In addition to that, I have *updated* it (on several systems that I own (and re-install) about 10-15 times.

    Perhaps I'm more active than Average Joe, but you get the picture...

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