An Open Source Guide For The Average PC User 161
prostoalex writes "The regular Yahoo! News feature Tech Tuesday this week is dedicated to open source software for the home user. Open source for all spells out the open source ideas for a regular PC user, while providing some helpful links to some popular software. The open source PC is a guide on most popular open source apps that would be common for a home user to have. Is open source for you? discusses shortcomings of open source software and cases when it's not recommended." From the article: "Never fear, counterculture types. You can still liberate the code, and experience many other perks, by becoming part of the open-source movement.
With the steadily increasing number of open-source applications on the Web, there are more projects than ever to check out, covering nearly every imaginable application: from word processors and e-mail applications to media players and video games."
linux.slashdot.org? (Score:4, Funny)
Nahhh (Score:2)
OpenCD (Score:5, Informative)
Is a common link when a topic like this comes up.
I find I can make a more current and better CD than OpenCD, and I'd encourage other geeks to compile their own Open Software CDs, and recommend software to their friends. If they're looking to record sounds, use Audacity. If they want to borrow your Word CD, show them Open Office 1.9.122.
If they want to rip their CD collection, install CDex for them and show them the CDDB button, then press F9.
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Unfortunately it doesn't look as though episode 34 has been transcribed yet.
Listen to the audio, they are great
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Re:OpenCD (Score:5, Insightful)
The problem is that with most modern software, it introduces remotely exploitable security holes if it's not kept up to date, and if your friend doesn't have a firewall. What will happen when they install Firefox 1.0.1 from the CD for example? They'll be instantly asked to install another version and might think that its strange that the "new" program they just put on already has a "problem" with it.
I acknowlege and agree that stable versions must be provided, but it would be nice if they offered an "updated" folder on it too, making note that it's untested but should work similar to the other tested software on the disc.
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Knoppix is a much better idea. Pack all the apps with a linux distro and give that instead. It would give windows users more of a stark choice. Either pay for office or use linux+oo, either pay for photoshop or use linux+gimp. If the users can install gimp and oo and still use windows why wo
Re:OpenCD (Score:2)
One step at a time is much, much easier than all at once.
Re:OpenCD (Score:2)
I have heard this argument before and I disagree with it. I still don't see why they would switch to linux if they can run all their windows apps AND all their open source apps in windows. Just doesn't make sense to me.
What drove the adoption of apple II was visicalc. What drove the adoption
Re:OpenCD (Score:2)
By being better. That's one of the key points of open source, it makes for better, and because developers are free to "stand on the shoulders of giants", more innovative software. If it doesn't achieve that, people should stay with the alternatives.
Re:OpenCD (Score:2)
History shows that being better has nothing to do with popularity or adoption. Nothing, nada, zip, zilch. Please get that thought out of your head.
It has to be "good enough" (minimally functional), it has to be cheaper, it has to look good. Those are the most important factors.
Most open source apps today are "good enough" and cheaper. Some of them look good too. There is enough there to lure users to switch but not if they can use the same apps in windows.
Re:OpenCD (Score:2)
No, I won't get that thought out of my head, and you might like to try being a little less patronising when you post that sort of advice. Better is why I make my selections, and that's enough to drive my use of open source.
There is enough there to lure users to switch but not if they can use the same apps in windows.
That just means that the moment, open
Re:OpenCD (Score:2)
You are not typical. History shows again and again that superior products don't always win in the marketplace. In the marketplace cheap is better then good. Nice looking is better then ugly. Good enough is good enough.
If you don't believe me ask walmart.
Re:OpenCD (Score:2)
I can't. They haven't made it over here - too many better alternatives...
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Nope, Australia. There's a whole bunch of players in the Walmart space over here.
Re:OpenCD (Score:2)
Not for long. Wait till walmart decides to enter your country, all those companies will go out of business within five years.
Re:OpenCD (Score:2)
Unlikely. They'll be trying to gain a foothold in a market that's already filled by the likes of Aldi etc. Margins are already so low I don't think even Walmart would be able to undercut them, certainly not for long enough to get the sort of market share they're chasing.
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Like
http://limestone.truman.edu/pub/fsck/freecd/doc/ [truman.edu]
The articles were pretty good (Score:5, Informative)
The first article is a good one at which to point someone who has never heard of Open Source. My only beef is that the explanation of "What is Open Source" sounds more like a description of "What is the GPL/LGPL." Don't get me wrong, I like the GPL and release all of my work under it when possible, but there are plenty more licenses.
I also think that while OSS has some shortcomings, the way he paints them in third article is a bit bleak. Ha talks about the lack of a gentle learning curve or how they may not be as complete as their commercial conterparts. However, he completely overlooks those applications that have equalled or surpassed their commercial counterparts (like Apache, OpenOffice, Mozilla, and so on). Besides, most new users would be more likely to use OSS applications that have large active communitities (i.e., available support from other users), rather than the less well known.
Honest approach (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:The articles were pretty good (Score:1)
Re:The articles were pretty good (Score:3, Insightful)
That depends on your definition of surpassed. If you mean more features/stability...yes. If you mean easier and more intuitive to use...maybe not.
good but too short (Score:2)
Open Source and free books (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Open Source and free books (Score:2)
But printing an actual dead tree version will cost lots of money, and typically be out of date by the time it actually arrives in a user's hands.
Free as in freedom... (Score:2)
Even the idea that it can be read free online or printed out to read later is a selling point on all things open source.
http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/ [oreilly.com]
I always start by saying, this software is totally free to use, but most importantly is designed as a tool to solve the problem - not just developed, packaged and sold to fill a market niche. If you explain
Opensource list (Score:5, Interesting)
My thanks go out to the original poster whom I cannot remember.
1. Web Browsing? Mozilla/Firefox
2. E-mail? Thunderbird or Evolution
3. Group Calendaring? Mozilla Sunbird + Apache/SSL/WebDAV + iCal
4. Audio CD Archiving? Grip + Ogg Vorbis
5. Advanced Media Player? Xine or MPlayer
6. Audio Streaming of Archived CDs? Icecast + Ices
7. Recording of online streams for archival purposes? ALSA + ALSA Utils + Ogg Vorbis + Any required media player format in Xine or MPlayer
8. Firewall? Linux Kernel + iptables
9. Office Functionality? OpenOffice.org
10. Digital Image Editing? GIMP
11. IM Client? GAIM
12. IM Server? Jabberd
13. File sharing? NFS
14. Sane storage management? LVM
15. File compression? BZip2, GZip, or 7Zip also File Roller if you really need a GUI
16. Digital Photo Management? Gthumb or Nautilus
17. PVR? Mythtv.org
18. Video streaming? VLC (Video LAN Client)
19. X10 Home Automation? Bottlerocket
20. Remote desktop/application serving? VNC 4
21. Remote assistance? x0vncserver or the vnc extension for Xorg
22. VPN/Tunneling? OpenVPN or OpenSSH with TCP port forwarding
23. Web Serving? Apache
24. Mail Serving? Courier
25. Server Based Spam Filtering? ASSP
26. Client Based Spam Filtering? Thunderbird
27. Image Scanning? SANE
28. Audio Editing? Rezound or Audacity
29. Multitrack Audio? Ardour
30. MIDI Sequencing? Rosegarden
31. CD Burning (Data and Audio)? cdrecord + various GUI frontends
32. Simple PC Based Puzzle Games? Too many to list from both the GNOME and KDE projects
33. SpyWare/Malware Prevention Removal? None at this point since I don't use the internet via Windows
-Jesse
Re:Opensource list (Score:3, Insightful)
I use apps because they are good, not because the man told me to. I'll buy a commercial app if it does what I want and I'll use an opensource one if it's better and free. Choice is good
Re:Opensource list (Score:5, Informative)
I'd say OpenSSH. You can tunnel a lot of things through it and only have one port to "guard". And with Gnome/KDE you can get GUI access to file transfers through their file mangers. Plus you can communicate with OS X and Windblows too with it (assuming Windblows has ssh installed).
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State of network file systems sucks (Score:2)
None of the major contenders fill this role
Aggravating the situation is the fact that NFSes are prime candid
Cygwin! (Score:2)
As far as performance and usability, I barely even noticed that I was logging into a Windows system when I used VI or Joe. Plus having Cygwin installed lets you take advantage of Bash scripting among other things. I just used it to secure VNC while visiting sunny Florida and it was great, and fast.
Others
Re:Opensource list (Score:2)
Of course, for the hard core some choices would be different:
Re: Opensource list (Score:2)
It's not a drop-in replacement for Sibelius, or the various music packages which do score-printing like Cubase, Finale, etc., because it has no GUI -- it takes in a text file, and writes out a PDF. You get best results by writing the input by hand, but it's not easy (practically a full programming language), although there are converters from ABC, MIDI, and other popular formats (though with mediocre success). I belie
Minor beef (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes, I do realize they're not in the business of OSS advocacy, but it would be so easy for the author to engage the average computer user (i.e. "get your pale-faced neighbor to burn you this Live Linux CD - it will NOT change the rest of your computer in any way")
Re:Minor beef (Score:4, Insightful)
Your comment also needs to be tempered. I still own a 350MHz K6, and it runs Windows 2000 about as well as it runs KDE - that is, not all that well. I remember my 8MB 66MHz 80486 laptop running Win98 and Word competently enough, but barely able to run X by itself, nevermind OpenOffice.
Point is, to a certain extent, a computer is stuck with its contemporary software. Linux is certainly more usable with more recent software, but the difference is not night and day. What does your 400 MHz P2 actually run when you say "Linux"? I very much doubt that OpenOffice "works great" on that box.
Another point is that many software have plateaued in terms of CPU demands. Nobody desperately needs Word or Excel or IE to run much faster, and what may be true of your 200MHz P2 is not necessarily applicable to a 1GHz Celeron. Other than rendering video, which I do once in a while, I basically don't need much more raw performance out of my 733MHz G4 running Tiger.
Re:Minor beef (Score:2)
If you were a heavy OO user on an older system with sufficient RAM, you could always use the quickstarter or something like that to reduce start times.
Re:Minor beef (Score:3, Interesting)
That's funny because I've tried for years to get a buddy to run Knoppix on an old PC he's got and he'll never do it. Even though he knows I have a computer/networking related degree he doesn't believe that Knoppix won't affect his Windows install (which is very broken).
I was going to type "I don't know why he doesn't believe me..." but then I think about all of the Windows software that des
Ubuntu Live CD (Score:4, Informative)
They will also send pressed CDs to you for free.
NEWS FLASH.... (Score:4, Insightful)
Actually, the MAJORITY of PC users could absolutely care less about Open Source. I know of two people (they are related) that are open source/Linux advocates. Everyone else I know would be burdened by using non-standard software, whether they pay for it or not.
MOST people feel they don't pay for OS or Office software because it is normally buried in the "buy price" of a new PC. Since the buy price of a new PC is affordable for most people, there is no clear compelling reason to use software that is not supported and can be "forked" into a million different version just "because you can".
Come on, people.
Re:NEWS FLASH.... (Score:1)
Re:NEWS FLASH.... (Score:2)
I only know what I need:
1. cheap or free: 1-0 for "Open Source"
2. software without viruses or adware: 2-0 for "Open Source"
3. good technology: 3-0 for "Open Source"
4. good community: 4-0 for "Open Source"
5. freedom to inspect and modify the code: 5-0 for "Open Source"
I don't care about the name, I do care about the points above. Let's say that the "average" user doesn't care about the no. 5 but I'm pretty sur
Re:NEWS FLASH.... (Score:2)
2. software without viruses or adware: 2-0 for "Open Source"
3. good technology: 3-0 for "Open Source"
4. good community: 4-0 for "Open Source"
5. freedom to inspect and modify the code: 5-0 for "Open Source"
I don't care about the name, I do care about the points above. Let's say that the "average" user doesn't care about the no. 5 but I'm pretty sure it will if he realize that 1 through 4 are related to point no. 5
1. cheap or free = so is pirated, and so "is" the baked i
Re:NEWS FLASH.... (Score:2)
I totally agree with this observation. Switching from one OS to another is not something that most of the people like or are willing to do. Actually that the basis of MS monopoly. However, many people, there are now millions, swiched to Linux -- I guess that shows something, probably people frustration with Windows or with Microsoft actions.
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Re:NEWS FLASH, free software, no viruses (Score:2, Insightful)
The "average" PC user doesn't give a flying fuck about the "Open Source" movement or Linux or whatever.
The MAJORITY of "average" PC users,
at least the ones I've met,
actually like
free software
no viruses.
Re:NEWS FLASH.... (Score:4, Insightful)
You forgot to say he does not guve a flying fuck about "Windows" too. The average users sees the computer, sometimes Word, sometimes Excel. Actually, most average users using these software at home only see Office, because that's what they bought for an expensive price, or got from their company, and asked some geek to install, or shelled more bucks to make someone else install it.
Everyone else I know would be burdened by using non-standard software, whether they pay for it or not.
Everyone else I know IS burdened by using ANY software they have no formation for, whether they pay or not.
All the people I switch to Linux actually accepted the switch the day I stopped supporting their Windows. And I told them there is plenty of paid support for Windows. Guess what, they preferred the switch, especially when less than a month after that, all the Windows machines I stopped supporting fubared. Even the one who I thought found support elsewhere contacted me last week to ask me about computer parts (he's going to buy a new machine), because his computer was completely dead (actually, from the symptoms, only his Windows is dead, but I won't tell him a thing about that, no more Windows support).
MOST people feel they don't pay for OS or Office software because it is normally buried in the "buy price" of a new PC.
MS Office sure is not.
Since the buy price of a new PC is affordable for most people, there is no clear compelling reason to use software that is not supported and can be "forked" into a million different version just "because you can".
These are not the reasons to use these softwares. They actually work the way they should, that's the primary reason.
SCO (Score:2)
Would that be like SCO? First, you share your "secret". Then, you turn around and sue people for stealing it from you. Then, you manage to avoid bankrupcy for an astonishingly long time, meanwhile sending more and more money your lawyer friends' way. Then, they buy you a beer. Or whatever.
Canard (Score:5, Insightful)
The average user does not care about open source. They care about FREEWARE.
Thats not to say I don't care about open source... its just not as compelling to Joe Sixpack.
Re:Canard (Score:4, Interesting)
They do not care because they do not know. That's no good reason to criticize a series of articles that tries to the get the word out
Average users don't want to care about how their car works either. But they still know to get their oil changed every month, and have opinions on issues like the classification of SUVs.
My usual response (Score:3, Interesting)
It doesn't, it's free.
"Oh, does it have spyware or something?"
No, it's open source.
"Open source? What's that?"
It means they give away the source code, you can modify it and make your own.
"Hey dude, that's sweet!"
Yup!
Re:My usual response (Score:2)
To anyone but a programmer source is no more readable than a Sumerian clay tablet.
Re:My usual response (Score:2)
If it's Open Source, you can.
For businesses, this customization aspect is very, very important. Well, unless they want to get into vendor lock-in, endless upgrades, etc, etc.
In the end, though, it's about choice. Your choice to
Re:My usual response (Score:2)
Re:My usual response (Score:2)
But many other people *do*, and tend to fix the same things that irritate you, because those things irritate *them*.
Open Source licences are a good charm to ward off companies "being evil".
Re:Canard (Score:5, Insightful)
5-10 years ago, you'd have been right. When Winamp was the latest invention, when pkzip was common, when Netscape being free was still a novelty, people wanted freeware.
But since then, the split happened. Freeware authors went into one of two camps:
(a) Those who decided they weren't getting enough money, became paraniod, experimented with copy-protected shareware, but finally became neurotic enough to invent adware, spyware, and later, viruses.
(b) Those who thought group (a) were misguided and wanted to continue offering stuff for free. These people became Free Software authors.
The general public know this. They know that the WinAmp author got assimilated into AOL and spat out. They know that GetRight is spyware now. They know that Napster got bought, killed, and eventually became an undead version of HMV.com.
They've seen all this in the news, and freeware doesn't exist anymore. Authors with morals now label their wares as Free Software for fear of it being used against them for evil. Authors in in for the money became blubbering lunatics, trying ever more severe ways to "get back" at the users who didn't pay them.
And the users' reaction to all this? "If it's not GPL, it's not safe" seems to be one of the most practical ways to evaluate 'free' software...
Re:Canard (Score:2)
This may be true, and I do use GNU software like mad...but honestly, that is a really sad state of affairs.
Re:Canard (Score:2)
fallacy (Score:5, Insightful)
This is a fallacy. Alot of OSS is developmental and experimental and truly is buggy. Some OSS is top-quality and fully useable (linux, firefox, gimp, etc.). It is a fallacy to believe that commercial software is somehow better. Some commercial software is fully useable (photoshop, MS Office, etc.) but there is alot of commercial software that is absolutely crap. Even software made by respectable companies will often present 'technical challenges' (for instance, software bundled with hardware devices, etc.). With commercial software, the price may give you a hint as to quality... but ultimately you have to do some research and try to make an informed decision about what to buy. With OSS, you again have to do some research before deciding what to use (although you have the bonus advantage of being able to quickly install all of the choices without any financial commitment).
I don't think commercial software is automatically simpler and more reliable. The great number of OSS options is admitedly complicated, but it is silly to think that just because something costs money, it must be better than the free alternative.
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Re:fallacy (Score:1)
Its not that commercial software is automatically or must be better than OSS, its that it usually is.
I'll never go back to Windows (for all the usual reasons), but I've been using Linux (Mandrake, RH, SuSE) as my primary desktop for five years, and I've fina
Re:fallacy (Score:1)
Have you seen commercial software?
Darwin works in both camps -- there's a reason why most of sourceforge is crap, and there's a reason that most commercial software is crap. If you take the best examples of each (for example, the GNUWin2 CD, versus the commercial software that actually gets published), then the results look a lot more polished.
Almost the right idea... (Score:3, Insightful)
It's fairly trivial to do something that can help educate the average PC user about OSS, as we can see from this article. The challenge is getting them to care.
I believe OSS suffers from "Apple Advertising Syndrome." I've heard it said before that if Apple actually ran advertisements that showed a Mac and PC working side by side, saying "Watch as this Mac does exactly what this PC does, but it's faster, more usable, and easier to look at, and you can get MS Office, email, calendaring, IM, etc." they'd sell a lot more. OSS needs the same sort of thing, but they need to tout that great "Free" price tag. MS Office vs. OpenOffice is a great example. The only reason the average PC user would even consider leaving something like MS Office for OpenOffice is that it could do exactly the same thing, but cheaper or for free. Period. I don't personally know a single person that uses OpenOffice instead of MS Office, and it's all because of network externality. Is my copy of Office busted? I'm sure someone can help me fix it. I am sure that if I just click "Save," everyone else will be able to see this document, because everyone uses MS Office. No worries. The only way network externality can be defeated is with something incredibly tempting and convincing, and no amount of usability or features pumped into an application will make it one millionth of one percent as tempting as saying "Hey, it works just like MS Office but it's free!"
The average PC user doesn't care about "Free as in freedom, not free as in beer." Free as in beer is what will get the software out there.
I guess the most unfortunate part is that increasing recognition of OSS to "average PC users" won't add a single person to those contributing to the source. Average PC users consume, not produce, applications.
Re:Almost the right idea... (Score:3, Informative)
"Free-as-in-beer" is overrated.
How much does the average user spend on consumables, ink and paper, over three months, six months, a year? How much is he really paying for Office? Not retail list, surely.
Student-Teacher Office sells for about $150 with a three seat license.
Re:Almost the right idea... (Score:2)
I'm not so sure. Every average user I've seen in this situation reinstalls everything, hoping to fix the issue.
I am sure that if I just click "Save," everyone else will be able to see this document, because everyone uses MS Office.
Which is of course false, as any regular user of MS Office knows. One of the problems is
If only they knew the $$$$ (Score:1)
http://www.farleyfamily.net/articles/freesoftware
Re:If only they knew the $$$$ (Score:2)
What is source code? (Score:4, Insightful)
I may be underestimating the public, but I honestly don't think the masses know what you're talking about when you write an article and assume the reader knows what "source code" is.
Re:What is source code? (Score:1)
Here's a link (Score:1, Troll)
http://searchlores.org/bangla.htm [searchlores.org]
And of course, the Pricelessware.
http://www.pricelessware.org/ [pricelessware.org]
Nit: picked. (Score:1)
GIMP, the Un-Photoshop (Score:4, Informative)
I've never taken one single computer graphics class in my life and I've managed to learn how to use GIMP and created dozens of graphics for my blog at http://sunandfun.blogspot.com/ [blogspot.com].
Re:GIMP, the Un-Photoshop (Score:2)
While this is true, I have found that Windows releases of cross platform open source packages are almost always slower, often less stable, and sometimes less featureful than their Linux-based counterparts, where often the bulk of the developers live.
I like dia, but I found the cygwin release of dia to be unstable, for instance.
Re:GIMP, the Un-Photoshop (Score:2)
Actually, it's not a very good choice. It's tedious, and the Windows platform is too limited to use every features of these apps. Most FOSS apps on cygwin are unstable, slow, and heavily degraded compared to when they are used on Linux.
To me, the deal-breaker, the must-have, of the open-source software is GIMP. Unless you're a professional graphic artist employed by a co
A better 1-CD solution than OpenCD (Score:2, Informative)
Productivity:
OpenOffice 1.1.4 [openoffice.org] | jEdit 4.2 [jedit.org] | Nvu 1.0 [nvu.com] | PDFCreator 0.8 [sourceforge.net]
Graphics:
GIMP [gimp.org] | Inkscape [inkscape.org] | Blender [blender3d.org] | POV-Ray [povray.org]
Media:
VLC [videolan.org] | Audacity [sourceforge.net] | JazzWare [jazzware.com]
Internet:
Gaim [sourceforge.net] | Firefox | Thunderbird | HTTrack [httrack.com] | TightVNC [tightvnc.com] | 7Zip [7-zip.org]
Survival Kit:
BurnAtOnce [burnatonce.com] | Darik's Boot and Nuke [sourceforge.net]
Development:
Eclipse [eclipse.org] | Dev C++ [bloodshed.net] | Cygwin [cygwin.com] | Bochs [sourceforge.net]
Celestia (Score:3, Informative)
Think Google Earth, but for the solar system/galaxy/universe. I just spent a hour playing with this, checking out the plug-ins for real and fictional spacecraft.
Open letter to F/OSS community (Score:5, Insightful)
First, as average pc users, we don't really care about the whole F/OSS concept. We will never write code and we couldn't care less about the philosophical purpose behind what you write and distribute for free. Of course we can relate to free beer; that gets us excited. But more than just free software, what we want is software that just works and doesn't make us jump through hoops to make it work. We want to be able to pop in a CD or download a file and click something to make it work. We don't care what is going on under the hood. As long as it's not sending our credit card numbers to thieves or revealing our porn to our wives, we simply don't care how or why it works. If one organization could sell or give us a master program that did anything we wanted it to do, we would be very happy, clueless campers. We would not care in the least if an evil monopolist was controlling the entire computer industry - as long as our email, chat, photos, music, games, banking, and porn just worked.
The adventurous among us, that have investigated this F/OSS concept, have simply been intimidated or confused by the overwhelming amount of indiscernible information we're faced with. We've downloaded several of the so-called easy versions of something related to Linux, but we've ultimately given up because everything takes a lot of research and fumbling to get it working right. Every time we look for answers to a question about how to do X, we're faced with cryptic messages about compilers, command lines, wrappers, shells and whatnot. We don't want to know how to compile anything. We don't care what a command line is. We can't tell the difference between a shell and a GUI. Why should we have to? Quite simply, we are not interested in being programmers - we have other interests, jobs, and time consuming responsibilities.
Now the really, really determined amongst us will seek out knowledge by frequenting newsgroups, forums, or websites devoted to this free software. Unfortunately, the predominate thing we see happening in these areas is a bunch of infighting and bitching about how one distro is better than another, or how Microsoft is Satan incorporated. There's always a lot of talk about security and clueless users but, rarely is there any real substance that actually helps moving us clueless users into a more secure environment; at least not without requiring us to take a couple CS courses.
What's worse is the general attitude amongst a lot of the F/OSS community, which seems to believe they are somehow intellectually superior to those of us in the world that choose to spend our time learning something other than operating systems and protocols. As we see it, we don't expect you to know how to perform open heart surgery; or perhaps how to knit a woolen sweater, yet you are able to benefit from both of those, thanks to our hard work. All we ask is that you likewise provide us with a product which we can use without needing to know how you produced it or how it works.
In closing, it's not that we don't appreciate the efforts you put forth, we just ask you to remember that we are average users. Our skills and aptitudes vary widely. Also remember that we will gladly adopt anything that makes our lives easier, more productive, more secure, or just more interesting. What we will not accept however is the premise that we must devote an inordinate amount of time to learning how to install, use, and maintain your software; no matter what the perks are. There are at least two companies which already sell us stuff that just works; for the most part.
Re:Open letter to F/OSS community (Score:2, Insightful)
I wouldn't call me a representative for the more tech savvy computer users, though in fact I am more tech savvy. I will try to explain a few things for you as clearly as possible. Hopefully you can benefit from open sou
Re:Open letter to F/OSS community (Score:2)
LOL
Anyways, if you look at my posting history, you'll see a billion responses (all linux adovacy, usually SuSE). I am a big fan of Transgaming's Cedega, and I'd argue the following:
If you want a computer that just works (office/work type stuff), Linux is ready for you, and almost as good as Apple.
If you want a computer that plays certain games very well with great easy, Linux is ready for you. This mean you only play linux games. Linux games versus Apple games? Appl
Re:Not recommended?!?!? (Score:3, Insightful)
You mean, custom, business-specific, fully supported 24x7, money-back guarantee if it fails, applications, right?
Re:Not recommended?!?!? (Score:3, Insightful)
Custom == written by people who insist on shipping beta code with dozens of faults and insist that it'll take at least 6 months to fix any given one.
Business-specific == About 500% over priced with an all encompassing NDA.
Fully-supported 24x7 == By a group of former telemarketers in God knows what corner of the world who have never used the software.
Money-back guarantee == Have you read your E
Re:Not recommended?!?!? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Not recommended?!?!? (Score:2)
I have several clients who run CNC milling machines. Big ones, for the Big 3 automakers. They make very specific custom widgets.
If the software that controls the hardware fucks up, and it's obvious (or provable), then the software maker eats the cost of any widgets made that weren't made right.
There *are* industries out there were 100% uptime, and 100% accuracy, are default requirements of the software.
Re:Not recommended?!?!? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Not recommended?!?!? (Score:2)
Your great-grandparents discarded manual shifting for perfectly intelligible reasons sixty-five years back.
Microsoft doesn't "Think Geek" and that is its strength.
Re:Not recommended?!?!? (Score:2, Funny)
Not extensive, but here's a start.... (Score:2, Informative)
Planet Penguin Racing- http://projects.planetpenguin.de/ [planetpenguin.de]
FlightGear- http://www.flightgear.org/ [flightgear.org]
Armagetron - http://armagetron.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]
Vega Strike (see also the WC Privateer remake)- http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]
Frozen Bubble-
h [frozen-bubble.org]
Re:Not extensive, but here's a start.... (Score:2)
Re:Not extensive, but here's a start.... (Score:2)
1) Most of the effort in developing such games comes from producing content (audio, artwork, models, etc). There aren't lots of people producing this in the OSS world.
2) Most current closed source games have very minimal replay value -- a good deal of the enjoyment comes from one-off events, like watching animations in the game, or plot twists. People that write open source software almost universally are writing so
Re:Wrong section (Score:1)
Re:Sure this will work... well.... (Score:2)
You do realize that there are a huge number of closed-source games that die a stillbirth in development as well? You just don't hear much about them (aside from maybe a product announcement somewhere that's never followed up on -- look at Gamespot's database of games, which include