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The Tech of Burning Man 352

Marc Merlin wrote:"Some of you have probably heard of burning man, but most of those who haven't gone probably don't know that saying that it's just a bunch of naked hippies meeting in the desert to smoke pot, is a very unfair description of the event. I have been writing reports of it for the last 4 years now (akin to the linux show reports I used to do), and my 2005 report is the biggest one yet (1440 pictures, and a fairly complete overview page, showing the highlights) You can also look at the burning man index page (with pictures from the sky), and look at my first 2002 report for a view as a first timer."
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The Tech of Burning Man

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  • by Relic ( 92325 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @07:43AM (#13595022)
    Hippies. They're everywhere. They wanna save the earth, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad.
    • by Keebler71 ( 520908 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @08:25AM (#13595232) Journal
      Ok, I'll admit it: although I had heard of Burning Man, I was only vaguely aware that it was some sort of festival. So of course I looked it up at wikipedia. [wikipedia.org]

      Seemed like a pretty straight-forward hippie festival; I'm cool with that. Then I get to this part:

      Commerce Free Event.
      No cash transactions are allowed at Burning Man... The only commerce that has been allowed are sales of coffee and ice at Center Camp, which benefit the local Gerlach-Empire school system...Besides this, participants must buy tickets to attend the event. Tickets are sold through the Burning Man ticket website.

      At this point my irony meter pegs and I giggle incessantly through the remainder of the article.

      • by elrous0 ( 869638 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @08:35AM (#13595308)
        At this point my irony meter pegs and I giggle incessantly through the remainder of the article.

        Dorm room hippie: Fuck capitalism, man. Who needs that shit, when we can all just share the wealth, you know? Live off the land and pool our resources and shit.

        2nd dorm room hippie: Hey man, can I get a dime bag?

        Dorm room hippie: Sure man, $25.

        2nd dorm room hippie: Thanks.

        Dorm room hippie: It's like Huey Long and Karl Marx said, we should just share everything, man--just work together, you know?

        -Eric

      • by Faggot ( 614416 ) <choads@g[ ]com ['ay.' in gap]> on Monday September 19, 2005 @09:17AM (#13595574) Homepage
        Cut them some slack! You can't set up for and clean up after 20000 people without money. Its leave-no-trace ethic is unparalleled in any other festival -- even the Bureau of Land Management, who's been trying to squeeze them out for years, had to admit that the desert was impeccable 2 months after the event. The net profit from ticket sales goes to art endowments and the local school system.

        And as any Burner knows, the cost of the ticket is a drop in the bucket.
      • To be fair, the lack of cash transactions are an attempt to foster a sense of community. People give whatever they can, and if they have nothing, they offer services for free. While this may seem hard to comprehend why people would do this, at the same time, wherever you go, people give you whatever you need. It makes it more like a family than a city.

        Burning Man exists in the real world, and naturally has expenses that it has to deal with; however, inside, it's a different story.
    • Not a hippie fest. (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Vicsun ( 812730 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @10:08AM (#13596000)
      Recently a guy (sup blairerickson) on a forum I frequent posted a thread about the burning man. In an attempt to dispel some of the (usual) slashdot misinformation, I'm quoting some of what he said

      Burning Man is one of those events that a lot of people have heard of but few have any in-depth knowledge of unless you've actually been. So here's a thread to try and explain as many lingering questions people have about this strange phenomenon.

      How big is it?
      There were more than 35,000 people there last year.
      Here [google.com]'s a shot of the Playa (the place in Black Rock desert where it's held) from outerspace:

      And 's a random crowd shot to give you an idea of how many people are around any given street corner. [blairerickson.com]

      Is everybody there all peace love and happiness type hippies?
      Nope. In fact quite the opposite. There are entire groups built on nothing but raw rage. But there are plenty of hippies [blairerickson.com] too. For some people who go, a lot of Black Rock City is described as a cross between Survivor and Mad Max. Mad Max is the most common answer. Here's some photos to better explain why:

      http://www.blairerickson.com/bman/Muytator2.jpg [blairerickson.com]
      http://www.blairerickson.com/bman/Thunderdome.jpg [blairerickson.com]
      http://www.blairerickson.com/bman/mutantvehicle.jp g [blairerickson.com]
      http://www.blairerickson.com/bman/Spinning.jpg [blairerickson.com]

      Oh and then there's a group called the UberCarneys who built a giant device called the "Roaster Coaster" where they dropped spinning cages full of riders through a flame thrower while screaming over a megaphone about the sloppiness of its construction.
      http://www.blairerickson.com/bman/roastercoaster1. jpg [blairerickson.com]
      http://www.blairerickson.com/bman/roastercoaster2. jpg [blairerickson.com]
      http://www.blairerickson.com/bman/roasterfire.jpg [blairerickson.com]
      Supposedly they're doing something this year called "Unsafety Town"

      In addition to the flame throwers and anarchy, you can also expect a heavy dose of insane behaviour, giant displays of sexual debauchery, and liberal drug use. Just plain good fun.

      http://www.blairerickson.com/bman/blowtorch-burn-b arrel_f.jpg [blairerickson.com]
      http://www.blairerickson.com/bman/IMG_1079.jpg [blairerickson.com]
      http://www.blairerickson.com/bman/IMG_1116.jpg [blairerickson.com]
      http://www.blairerickson.com/bman/IMG_0617.jpg [blairerickson.com]
      http://www.blairerickson.com/bman/BarbieDeathCamp. jpg [blairerickson.com]
      http://www.blairerickson.com/bman/amacker-and-frie nd_f.jpg [blairerickson.com]

      Is it all easy and fun?

      Not at all. Surviving in the middle of the Black Rock desert is pretty goddamn tough. You have to bring plenty of gear, supplies, water, and anything you can think of. And you will probably be injured at some point. Goes with the territory. Almost everyone I was with last year was injured. I ended up with a pretty gruesome stab wound (http://www.blairerickson.com/bman/kneescar.jpg [blairerickson.com]) on my leg and a sprained ankle
      • Black Rock City
        finally, something i can relate to.

        is the portal for that in the Depths or the Spire?

      • by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 19, 2005 @12:57PM (#13597305)
        I've been on the playa 5 times now 1999-2004. The event is always a little different each year, always demanding and always worth it for me. We've taken people who dive into it like a fish to water and we've taken other people who got intimidated by all the wierd everywhere and just wouldn't leave camp.

        I've met smoked up hippies out there, and more burn-outs that I've ever met anywhere else, but at the same time, i've camped with a criminal psycologist that works with violent criminals, a group of cirqeu du soleil clowns, seattle politicians and grade school teachers.

        The event is not about what's there, but what you can add to what's there. It's a stone soup sort of gathering and when you have 35,000 people bringing out all of their cool stuff to show off, it's hard to describe. Do anything you want, be a rock star for a week, take on a new identity, exchange bad ideas with brilliant people, or simply spend an evening looking for someone with a high intensity laser to light a cigarette for you. Go be a barista, go play some live action pac-man, go be a bartender, a pole dancer, or a mystic.

        Lots of drugs, lots of art, lots of cool tech, lots of sex, but lots and lots of enthusiasm and good will. Someone posted that they'd not seen people get along so well except during disasters - that's not a bad comparison. I think the phrase that's used over and over is orchestrated chaos.

        If you don't see the point, don't go. If you're curious and have the cohones to make it out there with a few bad ideas of your own, you'll be welcome.
  • by BiAthlon ( 91360 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @07:44AM (#13595025)
    Are naked hippies work safe?
    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 19, 2005 @07:47AM (#13595040)
      Depends on your line of work.

      If your job involves naked hippies, then, yes, it's fine.

      Also, if your job involves lots of naked hippy chicks, I would like a job interview.

    • by orthogonal ( 588627 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @07:50AM (#13595062) Journal
      Are naked hippies work safe?

      Most of them are so un-photogenic, your boss can't reasonably claim you had an prurient interest in them. And given the hairiness and man-boobs, you often can't even tell the women from the men.

      It's as safe as looking at photos of some Stone Age tribe in National Geographic. Except, in this case it's a tribe of "Aging Stoners".
      • To quote from TFA:
        Day 3: Friday

        In addition to visiting more camps, I had to attend the two yearly rallies: first the critical dicks march, and later the critical tits bike ride, which was the largest one yet: it went on for 45 minutes. This is actually the first time I've heard men say "Ok, I've seen enough tits for today" :-)
        'Nuff said.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 19, 2005 @07:46AM (#13595035)
    Uh. Ever considered that the whole burning man thing has its roots in paganism...
  • oh man (Score:4, Funny)

    by Naikrovek ( 667 ) <jjohnson&psg,com> on Monday September 19, 2005 @07:46AM (#13595037)
    dudes they are going DOWN. 1400 pictures, many of them on the front page! HAHA FEEL THE WRATH!

    "Burning Man"? no: "Burning Servers"!
  • by Bob Cat - NYMPHS ( 313647 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @07:47AM (#13595038) Homepage
    and Linux.
  • by the_mighty_$ ( 726261 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @07:47AM (#13595042)
    Since when does a few pictures of naked hippies become news for nerds and stuff that matters?!?
    • Because a goodly measure of slashdotters ARE hippies.
    • by dr_dank ( 472072 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @09:23AM (#13595621) Homepage Journal
      I hope my submitted story about the Sears Catalog having almost naked ladies gets approved now.
    • God forbid anyone question the greatness of Slashdot, lest they be smited. I'm actually surprised you got modded up, between this shit and good 'ol Zonk this place has gone to hell. I find myself here less and less by the week now. A true shame.
    • by pjrc ( 134994 ) <paul@pjrc.com> on Monday September 19, 2005 @12:00PM (#13596943) Homepage Journal
      I went to burning man for the first time this year... been curious for some time... finally talked my girlfriend into going. Playa dust aside, it really was a lot of fun. But it's not for everyone.

      This is a lot of very interesting home-made tech out there.

      I resisted the urge to build any large-scale project, though I did do a couple little things. I built some custom lighting for our two bikes, using a couple handfuls of LEDs and a little microcontroller and already-present wheel sensors (from those little bike trip monitors) to switch gradually between different colors as we ride.

      We stayed with a camp called Burnstream court. They had a sign that'd broken. They had a mail list, which we'd been on much of the year, and the guy who was working on repairing the sign was using little light bulbs and dreaming of someday "animating" them. Being an electrical engineer (and not being able to resist a cool project), I broght a little microcontroller board that I had solder several high current MOSFETs (and associated circuitry) into a prototype area. On the second day out there, he was working on putting all those little lights on the sign, and I gave them the board, hooked all the lights up to it, and wrote some code to sequence the lights. Everyone in the camp was really excited about the flashy sign. It was cool. It was fun.

      Yeah, I'm into creating stuff. Geeky, perhaps? (as opposed to the other geeky... playing video games... or ooggling over shiney new products).

      Thousands and thousands of other creative and highly inspired people (must moreso than me) so there every year. And you just can't imagine all the amazing and wacky things they create and build out there.

      Well, maybe you can sit back and imagine all sorts things. Surf though the tens of thousands of pictures people post, and feel like you know. But it really is something to see in person.

      There's amazing displays of technology, like the cubetron art piece, which had a 9x9x9 cube of LED-lit pingpong balls suspended on wires in a big cube shape, which lit up in mulitple colors in all sorts of interesting animated patterns. There were many, many other very interesting things people created and brought out there, and made work in such an unforgiving environment. It really is quite amazing.

      So if you're the sort of person who see tech and wonders "that's really cool, how'd they do that", or "I should of thought of that", or "I'd love to make something like that"... then you'll probably really like burning man. But if you're one of those people, who I personally wouldn't call true geeks but saddly inhabit slashdot, who sees tech and thinks "I can get that cheaper at walmart", then burning man is defintely not for you.

      Burning man is also about lots of other things than just building art and viewing and playing with art (much of the art is intended to be played with, unlike traditional art).

      For many people, burning man is about partying all night long. There's lots of people who set up bars, which give out free drinks when they're open (pretty much when they feel like it). There's also lots of camps that set up night clubs with lights and large sound systems. Perhaps hundreds of little ones for about 20 to 80 people to party, and on the ends of the city, dozens of huge ones where hundreds of people are dancing and partying all night long.

      For others, it's a more mellow social gathering. Lots of people hang out, play some musical instrument or just lounge around and be mellow. It seems like there's some pot smoking, but the cops to drive around and mionitor from the streets, so any drug usage is well out of ordinary sight.

      Some people, mostly those who've never been and will never go, just can't seem to see past nudity. Yes, some people go around with little or no clothing during the day, others wearing something provocative. And some are even "hotties" by conventional mass-media standards. But it really isn't that big a deal.

      There is a hippie

  • by cascadingstylesheet ( 140919 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @07:54AM (#13595083) Journal

    This group of hippies is different, man ... they're deep ...

  • Stereotype? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Dogtanian ( 588974 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @07:55AM (#13595089) Homepage
    On the contrary, my stereotype of 'Burning Man' was, and is a bunch of Wired-reading Californian rich kids with iPods (*) and the like playing at being Pagans, and pretending to do the hippie thing for a few days.

    Not that dissimilar to the more bandwagon-jumping hippies in the 1960s, who went on to found large, corporate companies and sell out (a la "Ben and Jerries", one of the worst examples of corporate hippie culture), whilst living off their supposed hippie credentials. Plus ca change...

    (*) Okay, iPods are *way* mainstream now. Replace with whatever that pretentious rag is recommending they buy this month.
    • Re:Stereotype? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by imsabbel ( 611519 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @08:09AM (#13595162)
      Strange.
      My stereotype was: Tons of pyromanics gather and burn down everything they can carry there....

      (might be biased because i first heard about that even on the website of one guy who wrote about how be burned 20 magnesium engine blocks from cars in a pit)
    • Re:Stereotype? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by HardCase ( 14757 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @08:18AM (#13595195)
      Yep, I'm with you. My boss took a week's vacation from his $150K engineering job to drive his Hummer down. Of course, if he didn't have time to make the road trip, there was also an airstrip for all of the private planes, too.

      Judging from the (somewhat less then 1400) pictures that he brought back (and that we endured in our weekly department meeting), he wasn't atypical.

      It looked like a bunch of drunk and stoned rich kids (and more than a few parents) camping out in the middle of nowhere for a week and worshipping a few hardcore hippies.

      -h-
      • Re:Stereotype? (Score:3, Insightful)

        by GeckoX ( 259575 )
        Apparently there is something fundamentally wrong with partying for a week.

        Though I fail to see what it is.

        Looks to me like a few tens of thousands of people had a great time for a week. And yet all we can find to do is criticise.

        Me thinks you all need to take a freaking vacation.
    • Oh yeah; slogan....

      "Burning Man: It's like those villages in 'Firefly', but with more SUVs and naked hippies"
    • fucking sterotypes (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Ender Ryan ( 79406 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @08:54AM (#13595418) Journal
      Just who is starting this bullshit sterotype of hippies becoming corporate types? I hear this bullshit all the time. I've known plenty of former hippies... most of them are still hippies, just without the obsession with drugs and other silly shit. But this sterotype of hippies starting big companies I hear mostly from people who are on the opposite end of the political spectrum.

      And regarding Ben & Jerry's... The same B&J that dropped a few products because making the product was giving the factory workers RSI? The B&J that started in a garage? The same B&J that donates 7.5% of its pre-tax profits to charities? The same B&J that's still doing this so many years later, even after having gone public and being acquired by a larger corporation? I don't know, maybe they have become corporate scum and should be hated by hippies, but I can't find any evidence of that after googling for a couple minutes. In fact, the only criticism of B&J's that I've found so far is by conservatives attacking their ideals. Forgive me if I'm a little skeptical of criticism of Ben & Jerry's coming from the fucking Cato Institute.

      Fucking hell man, I don't even LIKE hippies. They're extremists, and they piss me off. But don't even try to call them out regarding their integrity... 'cause damn, most criticism directed their way is from people who have no goddamn legs to stand on.

      • by EvilTwinSkippy ( 112490 ) <yoda@nOSpAM.etoyoc.com> on Monday September 19, 2005 @09:28AM (#13595667) Homepage Journal
        It all comes down to the fact that Corporate types just don't understand a world that is not driven by money. They believe that everyone has a price. The also believe that everything has a price.

        The myth of the Hippies going whoreporate is a coping mechanism for cube dwellers. It makes them think that everyone eventually will adopt their lifestyle.

        What did happen in the 60s was a large number of maleable individuals tried adopting the Hippie lifestyle. Then they became disco freaks in the 70s before putting on collars and dress shoes to work as cogs in the great mill of capitalism.

        These were not the hippies. These were simply boomers. And if the ascetic lifestyle of Tibeten monks suddenly got popular you'd see a pile of 50 year olds on the street corner bumming rice.

        • The myth of the Hippies going whoreporate is a coping mechanism for cube dwellers. It makes them think that everyone eventually will adopt their lifestyle. What did happen in the 60s was a large number of maleable individuals tried adopting the Hippie lifestyle. Then they became disco freaks in the 70s before putting on collars and dress shoes to work as cogs in the great mill of capitalism.

          That was pretty much the people I was referring to; the people who pretended to be hippies, who *thought of thems
      • I agree, and I would just like to add something to your point...

        It's been my experience (and, no, I'm not a hippie by any definition of the word) that most stereotypes about hippies come from experiences with people who claim to be hippies, but in all actuality are not.

        This is just like stereotypes about Christians (and, yes, I am a Christian) or Islamics or any number of other social groups.

        Just because a person claims to be part of a specific group or demographic, and no matter how much that pers
      • Fucking hell man, I don't even LIKE hippies. They're extremists, and they piss me off. But don't even try to call them out regarding their integrity... 'cause damn, most criticism directed their way is from people who have no goddamn legs to stand on.

        My criticism wasn't directed at all hippies; it was directed at the bandwagon-jumping rich Californian-types who played hippie for 3 years in the late 1960s (a good excuse to smoke pot and sleep around, but don't tell me they meant it more than that) then we
      • "Faces of burning man" series.

        http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2005/ 08/28/burningfaces.DTL&hw=burning+man&sn=002&sc=89 7 [sfgate.com]

        THere is a tremendous amount of diversity at B.M.: Naked hippies on drugs with lots of money, naked hippies on drugs with less money, naked hippies on drugs in the visual arts professions, naked hippies on drugs who are attorneys, naked hippies on drugs who come from other countries, naked hippies on drugs from San Francisco . . .
    • Funny, I didn't spot a single iPod in that gallery.

      Other than the that hippie-fied a Mercedes, I didn't see a hole lot that really screamed moneybags. Even the prop airplanes looked pretty old, and old airplanes really aren't as expensive as people seem to assume.
      • Funny, I didn't spot a single iPod in that gallery.

        Of course not; that's "so four years ago", which I believe I alluded to in the original message.

        If they have iPods, they're probably iPod Nanos which are discreetly stored up their left nostril.
  • You got a problem (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Cally ( 10873 )
    with naked hippies smoking pot in the desert? Sure beats working for a living...
  • Not sure if the summary photo page will get slashdotted, she seems to be holding, but incase...here we go:

    http://data.coolnicks.co.uk/burningman [coolnicks.co.uk]
  • by Turbofish ( 585771 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @08:03AM (#13595129)
    It's all just a bunch of tree-hugging hippie crap!

    (Sorry, had to get the Cartman quote out of my system.)

    Seriously though, who really cares about a bunch of brain damaged losers trying to save the world one reefer at a time?
    • a bunch of tree-hugging hippie crap

      Let me get that straight ... trees in the desert?? and then a few thousand people that burn everything in sight??? Mmmmm, there better is some other hugging going on .... :-)
  • "just a bunch of naked hippies meeting in the desert to smoke pot, is a very unfair description of the event"

    Consider how much computer technology you're using right now that was invented by potsmoking hippies, often naked, though only occasionally in the desert. Then consider how useless and lemminglike are so many of the people who survive a week on the Burning Man Playa (and how useless are those who don't survive). Then consider how unfair to hippies is that comparison.

    "Why don't we do it in the road?" [thebeatles.com.hk]
    -
  • by ifwm ( 687373 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @08:17AM (#13595194) Journal
    It went something like this

    Acquaintance: "Hey I went to Burning Man last week!"

    Me: "Why?"

    Acquaintance: (stunned by my question) "It's BURNING MAN!"

    It's so clear now.
    • it went something like this

      Acquaintance: "Hey I went to Burning Man last week!"

      Me: "Why?"

      Acquaintance: (stunned by my question) "It's BURNING MAN!"

      It's so clear now.

      Meh, one could easily put ...

      Acquaintance: "Hey I went to a Shuttle Launch last week!"

      Me: "Why?"

      Acquaintance: (stunned by my question) "It's A SHUTTLE LAUNCH!"

      It's so clear now.

      It is entirely possible that for some people it is of a sufficiently cool magnitude as to be self-evident as to why you'd go. Replace Shuttle Launch with Stone's Concert

  • Some of you have probably heard of burning man, but most of those who haven't gone probably don't know that saying that it's just a bunch of naked hippies meeting in the desert to smoke pot, is a very unfair description of the event.

    OK. Considering the page is nuked (and consisted of the image equivalent of 1.4E+6 words anyway), what would be a fair description in 100 words or less?

  • Not sure what is has to do with Slashdot, apart from the hordes of geeks that attend each year. But yeah, nice stuff there.

    What'd be newsworthy though, is to maybe have an idea of the infrastructure behind such an event, since they have danceclubs in the middle of nowhere, which is kinda cool.

  • Mirror (Score:5, Informative)

    by TeknoHog ( 164938 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @08:26AM (#13595242) Homepage Journal
    Coral cache [nyud.net] seems to work fine.
  • by SpaceGhost ( 23971 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @08:52AM (#13595409)
    In 2002 I had the distinct pleasure of attending both Siggraph in San Antonio and, about a month later, BurningMan. I found them both to be amazing examples of what the human mind can do.
    If you go to Siggraph just looking to see the people who made Spideman's butt look tight, that's all you'll see - but the hundreds of tiny forums and sessions with researchers exploring the edges of science is both enlightening and frightening.
    BurningMan may look like a big party in the desert, but unless you go, you just cant understand the experience. The most striking and important thing about BM is the "gift economy" - aside from ice and coffee, there is no money-based commerce. It's not even a barter economy - you can almost always find whatever you want or need, and quickly find yourself getting engaged in the societal lovefest. Even the law enforcement officers we met (and had to deal with after an assault in a neighbooring camp, a very unusal occurence there) were outstanding examples of restraint and respect. The only time Ive seen that level of public harmony and effort outside of BM has been in disasters, my personal experience being the volunteers for the Columbia Debris efforts and here at home on Houston, the Katrina relief efforts.
    That said, technologically, BM is a treasure trove of ideas and thoughts - there are many amazing technologies, it's many of the same people that I saw at Siggraph, but this time using their advanced knowledge and resources to delight and amaze their fellow citizens of Black Rock City.
    Siggraph and Burningman - I recommend both heartily and without reservation. Look for the beauty, it's not hiding at all.
    • Agreed.

      The thing that has struck me both the times I've been to Burning Man has been how nice everyone was. In today's all too cynical world, it's surprisingly refreshing to spend a week in a community that encourages people to be friendly and helpful to each other. Maybe it's the fact that the place is just so weird and the desert to hostile, people have more need than usual to be social. Or maybe it's a just an ongoing cultivated culture thing. Whatever, it works, and I like it.

    • If you are in the Philadelphia area, try the Philadelphia Folk Festival. It's been around for 45 years, and has a colorful following. There are camp sites that have been around for decades, and they each form a village that seems to pick up next year where this year left off.

      If you volunteer, you get in for free. So you get everything from RV's with decks on the roof, to folks showing up with a sleeping bag and not much else.

      I've been going since I was an infant. (And slightly before.) I really don't kn

  • Some of you have probably heard of burning man, but most of those who haven't gone probably don't know that saying that it's just a bunch of naked hippies meeting in the desert to smoke pot, is a very unfair description of the event.

    This is such a horrible misconception. There are many other kinds of drugs available besides pot!
  • The only people I know who go to burning man are either nerds who like to blow shit up or hippies who like to smoke shit up. I have yet to meet someone in the middle ground who attends burning man, but I'm sure they're out there ;)
  • by Petersko ( 564140 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @09:02AM (#13595474)
    Why taunt the slashdot dweebs? Most would feel out of place there even after taking the various pharmaceuticals available onsite. It's a party, and we know how well geeks do at parties.

    Imagine two people arguing through a thick mental fog of ecstasy, pot and a little ketamine over the question of which linux distro is more secure out of the box. Somebody would be bound to pants you.
    • That's when I revert to discussions about Dungeon and Dragon's campaigns past, or deck strategies for Magic the Gathering. Which leads to the inevitable discussion about why the new blocks are good or bad, and then turns into a fistfest when folks discuss the impact of Color Screw on Multiplayer games, and how the game is now fun now that nobody plays for Ante anymore.

      If you are in a sufficiently stoned crowd that stuff is deep, man.

  • by PetriWessman ( 584648 ) <orava@[ ]va.org ['ora' in gap]> on Monday September 19, 2005 @09:06AM (#13595494) Homepage

    Burning Man is one of those things that's very hard to describe, mainly because it's pretty unique. Trying to stereotype it into a "naked hippies" thing is sort of like stereotyping Slashdot into "geeks who can't get laid" -- probably accurate for a small percentage, but not all that illuminating.

    This year was my second time there. It was different, calmer, but that's because of me not the event. Last year was mind-blowing -- and no, I didn't do drugs there (apart from a few random joints and lots of alcohol). This year I spent a lot more time socializing at camps and less time with the art, which left me feeling a bit art-deprived (but not too much).

    My impressions of this year? Less dust storms, I almost missed the constant whiteouts. Great art, better than last year. Cool stuff -- a small dome in the middle of the playa with a microphone and software that played harmonics based on the feedback. Hard to describe but very cool. A huge 3d cube "screensaver". Burning windmills. A very moving & emotional Temple, proving size does not matter. Lots of very cool people. The Group W bench (and Math Camp). The Moroccan double-decker bus from the always wonderful Bee People. The Barbie Death Camp & Wine Bistro.

    In other words: total gibberish to people who haven't been there. That's the way it is. It doesn't translate, even through pictures.

    It's an experience. Most people will hate it, it's not an easy "entertain us!" event for idle spectators and attention-deficit mindsets... and hey, camping for a week in the desert can get tough. At times you could scream about the playa dust getting everywhere. But for the people who love it, it's worth it many times over.

    Things I would change: the fucking motorized scooters. Annoying and they raise dust. Get rid of them. Also get rid of the tourists, the people who arrive just before the burn with videocams for shots of naked chicks. I'd tar & feather the bunch of them if I could. Spend the whole week there and get involved or keep out. It's not supposed to be an easy, convenient weekend experience.

    Oh, and Center Camp should only sell ice, not coffee. Dammit. :)

  • by Grendel Drago ( 41496 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @09:12AM (#13595527) Homepage
    Quoting Jamie Zawinski [livejournal.com]:

    The hypocrisy of the Burning Man organization really pisses me off.

    Last year, rzr_grl [livejournal.com] registered as a pro photographer, and so she got the press kit, which was possibly the most hypocritical thing I've ever read. Basically, the Burning Man Organization's attitude is, "if you take a photo on the playa, we own it, and get to tell you when and where and how it can be published. Even if you take that photo of yourself, inside your tent, surrounded by your own stuff."

    Update: rzr_grl pointed out that I forgot the best part: they also demand a percentage of profit (10% or 20%) plus that you send them a copy of all photos, for them to use however they like.

    Which is not, in itself, necessarily a bad thing -- that's just a matter of contract. You buy the ticket, you camp on the land they rented, you submit to their rules, and their rules consist of a Disney-like protection of their brand. They try to protect the image of "Burning Man" in as structured and proprietary a way as Disney protects the mouse: you can be sure that Disney demands the same kind of submission the part of any press who take photos inside Disneyland.

    But the thing that really pisses me off is that they do all this -- they lay out this completely one-sided you-work-for-us lawyerly document -- and they fill the whole thing with an incredible amount of pomo hippie noise, in a sad attempt to disguise what they're actually saying! They go on at length about how they are viciously protecting their brand for your own good. And every other paragraph says stuff like "Larry Harvey -- dare we say it -- a Genius..."

    They're taking a totally standard, normal, corporate line toward their theme park -- but that idea embarrasses them, and would offend their clientele, so they cloak it up in bullshit and hope that everyone reading it will buy the lie that it's really some spontaneous group-hug, and not a theme park. (Try to listen to them explain why it's ok for them to charge money in center camp, but it's not ok for anyone else to do it without your brain melting with the incredulousness of it.)

    She really needs to find that press packet and type it in, it will make each and every one of you vomit, I promise.

    Now, you might say that the motivations are different, and that makes the intentional obfuscation ok, but A: it doesn't, and B: I don't think the motivations are different at all.

    Disney protects the mouse because the mouse's image is their whole business, and any change in how the mouse is viewed by the public could effect their ability to do their thing.

    Burning Man is no different. Disney protects their brand because if someone else exploited their park in a way they didn't like, it would no longer be projecting the image they want, and the park would no longer be profitable (or, "full of happy little kids" if you prefer to look at it that way.)

    I don't have any problem with that. What I have a problem with is the hypocrisy: Disney is at least honest about what they are doing and why. The Burning Man people went through such amazing verbal and mental gymnastics to avoid using the word "brand" it was comical.

    I've enjoyed Burning Man every time I've gone, but after reading that document, I'll be damned if they're getting another dime from me. Which is a major contributing factor to why I'm not going this year: I'd feel dirty giving them my money, and sneaking in sounds like just too much effort (given that I have little tolerance for roughing it.)

    I think someone should do Capitalism Camp: the theme of the camp will be to trade US Currency for Goods and Services. If anyone complains, tell them, "Dude, radical self-indulgence! Stop harshing my mellow!"

    Now, I am not complaining that Burning Man is about money and shouldn't be. I've got no problem with money.

    I think it would be cool if th

    • by eh2o ( 471262 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @10:22AM (#13596127)
      You sir have no idea what you are talking about.

      Burning Man is NOT anarchy and has never claimed to be. Its not a free market, quite the contrary. Rules exist for a damned good reason, and this one in particular is supported by an overwhelming majority of participants. Until people think its "cool" for Fox News to broadcast live coverage from the Playa, until people think its "cool" for 2-bit pornographers to shoot footage of naked people for profit, that rule is not going to change. People go to Burning Man to have fun, not to be the animals in a media circus.

      Yes, Burning Man is a (non-profit) corporation. They annually raise and spend millions of dollars on the event. They deal with nasty legal problems and miles of beurocratic tape to make it happen. Comparing them to Disney is totally absurd.

      If you don't agree to the terms then don't go there. Everyone knows the rules. They are published well in advance on their website. If you don't agree, then don't go. Its called a choice. If you are a pro photographer and you want to shoot naked people in funny costumes without rights-encumberment, then hire some models.
  • by peter303 ( 12292 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @09:13AM (#13595542)
    The originally did it on Baker Beach. Lots of gay and Silicon Valley nerd content in the beginning. Then they dot.com arts scene joined. It got to big to do in S.F. and migrated to the Nevade desert.
  • Not hippies (Score:3, Insightful)

    by trailerparkcassanova ( 469342 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @09:13AM (#13595547)
    but Bay Area yuppies who load up on Burning Man supplies at Costco.
  • by Hao Wu ( 652581 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @09:19AM (#13595590) Homepage
    All that carbon released more than makes up the difference saved by hybrid cars and conservation.
  • dude, man, like... I think the server's cashed dude.
  • All types of subcultures are represented there. All types of drugs are too. Other than that, your comment is right on the money.
  • by Nostravinci ( 760755 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @10:12AM (#13596036) Homepage Journal
    Ok, at the risk of burning my server down, here is my article and photos of Burning Man.

    Not really tech related, but it offers my virgin experience at Burning Man this year, so some of you may enjoy another perspective.

    It comes from my heart:

    http://lecter.org/fotos/BM05/ [lecter.org]

    Enjoy!

    Jim
  • Many /. readers won't "get" this, and I don't blame them, there's lots that I don't get, either.

    But this is art of the kind that some of us feel deeply within, without even being able to explain just why it touches us.

    If there were a Burning Man Europe, I'd be there.
  • So old (Score:2, Informative)

    by robnauta ( 716284 )
    I believe Wired featured Burning Man extensively when I was still buying it, in their first 3 years. Must have been around 1996/1997 or so. Wired always had a fascination for the odd, offbeat and downright strange, and this festival where nothing much happened except the waiting around all day until finally the big guy was lit (and drinking heavily while waiting), certainly was. I guess they were surprised that anyone showed up at all, but this was just after the slacker era and before flat-fee home broadba
  • by szquirrel ( 140575 ) on Monday September 19, 2005 @11:20AM (#13596639) Homepage
    Style is everything at one of these burns. Appearances count. Any idiot can pick up a tiki torch at a Home Depot and wave it around like a deranged circus clown; it takes talent and panache in abundance to dig a five-foot-wide hole in the ground, dump in an engine block from a scrapped VW bug and set it on fire, then exhort onlookers -- with bullhorns -- to "Look away from the fire; it is many times brighter than the sun, and it will destroy your eyes." Yes, kids, burning magnesium is fun, but the consequences are dire: magnesium burns at 1,200 degrees Fahrenheit and reacts explosively with certain salt nitrates. Good thing, then, that our fellows at Burning Man protected onlookers from the burning block by partially burying it in an alkali lakebed.

    Shamelessly stolen from Pigdog [pigdog.org].
  • by NetDrain ( 167337 ) <slashdot at theblight dot net> on Monday September 19, 2005 @12:54PM (#13597287) Homepage
    The festival is about many things, but I tried to capture the art (for the most part).

    My online gallery is here. [theblight.net]

    Truly, the art is largely done by a bunch of geeks -- from the 9x9x9 "display" of ping-pong balls with three LEDs in each that can display any color on the rainbow, running a whole slew of programs that showed off the three-dimensional aspect of the project (Cubatron [theblight.net]) (think rotating planes in the XYZ axes in three colors all at once) to the otherworldly Alien Semaphore [theblight.net], whose light/arm movements were user-programmable through a control panel near the front. Or The Machine [theblight.net] whose top would rotate and arms slowly raise when all three turnstyles were rotated in the proper direction simultaneously through a tremendously complex system of gears. It was all simply incredible.

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