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Microsoft IE 7 Goes (More) Beta 292

Hans W. Smith writes "Microsoft has unveiled Internet Explorer 7, releasing the new "preview" version of its Web browser to the general public for testing. The latest version works only with Windows XP Service Pack 2 and includes many of the features Microsoft has been touting for months such as: privacy protection,tabbed browsing and a search box similar to Firefox. They tried to outdo Firefox tab browsing with a feature call Quick tab which shows thumbnail view of all open tabs in a single window." Yup, you saw it yesterday. Posting before coffee never works.
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Microsoft IE 7 Goes (More) Beta

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  • "Quick Tab" (Score:5, Informative)

    by arcdx ( 302794 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @09:54AM (#14615054)
    They tried to outdo Firefox tab browsing with a feature call Quick tab which shows thumbnail view of all open tabs in a single window.
    This can be accomplished in Firefox by using the foXpose [mozilla.org] extension.
    • Re:"Quick Tab" (Score:3, Interesting)

      by masklinn ( 823351 )
      Or the Tab Sidebar [blueprintit.co.uk] one which has more or less the same goal, but loads the thumbnails in the sidebar instead of creating a new tab with the thumbnails (it's basically a tab bar with thumbnails)
      • Re:"Quick Tab" (Score:2, Insightful)

        by virtualsid ( 250885 )
        That's a cool feature - something that I've been using with Omniweb on the Mac for a few years now. Once browsers like Firefox have this functionality by default, I'll probably have little need for a commercial browser like Omniweb.

        The drag and dropping of the tabs was a welcome addition to Firefox for me - it's still not as slick as Omniweb, but it's getting there.

        Now they just need to implement 'Workspaces' from Omniweb into Firefox/Seamonkey in as simple a way as possible, and then I can say a sad farewe
        • Re:"Quick Tab" (Score:3, Informative)

          by masklinn ( 823351 )
          For the tab dragging&dropping, you may want to check the Super DragAndGo and TabMix Plus extensions (I don't even remember how tab dragging&dropping works in out-of-the-box Firefox though, I never use it without plugging a dozen extensions in)
    • Is there one for Mozilla v1.7.12? I will upgrade to SeaMonkey later on.
    • Re:"Quick Tab" (Score:2, Informative)

      by Sir Codelot ( 830933 )

      Or you may try the Reveal [mozilla.org] extension.

    • Re:"Quick Tab" (Score:5, Insightful)

      by zrenneh ( 949977 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @11:09AM (#14615599)
      I know it's no trouble to the slashdot crowd, but if the average user doesn't know how to change their homepage, how will they install the many extensions required to bring Firefox initial functionality up to the standard of IE. Firefox has many benefits for nerds, but it isn't as functional out of the box.
      • Firefox has many benefits for nerds, but it isn't as functional out of the box.

        Can we stop saying this already? Firefox is lean and mean by default on purpose. It's a well known fact that users are put off by too much customization options. Default Firefox offers a very well balanced combination of few options and intuitive functionality. Add extensions if you need them. Have a simple browser otherwise. It's the best of both worlds from my humble point of view.
    • this must be the millionth comment on this issue... so silly.
      I think that quick tab thing looks like an unmentionable appendage, hangin out of its enclosure. Totally ugly. Here's a little piece of information that all you foXpose people don't realize: Double click on the tab bar and you get a new tab. Woaaaa! And you don't even have to see the ugly appendage. I bet microsoft missed that when they were looking through firefox to grab features. Also, Why doesn't Ctrl+K get you to the google search box?
      • oops... heh, my bad... quick tab is cool, foXpose has that too... yeah, hehe, wrong feature, i thought they were talking about that little new tab nub to the right of your rightmost tab.
    • I believe this feature originated in OmniWeb. There has been talk of integrating it into Safari and Firefox, but the developers of both did some UI analysis and decided it was a nice gimmick with little actual use.
    • Re:"Quick Tab" (Score:3, Informative)

      by kitzilla ( 266382 )

      As I believe at least one poster has pointed out, thumbnail image tabs have been around in Omniweb [omnigroup.com] on the Mac platform for a while.

      Thumbnail tabs aren't for everyone or every application. But they're more than a visual gimmick if you use them properly. A picture is worth a thousand words -- and you can only get about two words on a tab without clicking it. I find a row of iconified web pages easier to sort, particularly before you get really zeroed in on something. If you're a visual person, this might be

  • by elrous0 ( 869638 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @09:54AM (#14615056)
    This one [mozilla.com] has MUCH more features.


  • IE7 is a dupe! (Score:5, Informative)

    by Alphab.fr ( 897672 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @09:56AM (#14615069)
    The "new" quicktab feature is nothing more than a copy of the Firefox Viewmatic Foxposé...
    http://viamatic.com/index.php/firefox [viamatic.com]

    And M$ says to dev, please install IE7 Beta and test your pages... except that if I do that, it kills IE6, and I can't check my pages as they'll be seen by 90% of visitors...
    • Re:IE7 is a dupe! (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @10:02AM (#14615113)
      . . .which in itself is still a copy of OmniWeb for Macintosh; which has had this feature for a while now. ;) (http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omniweb/ [omnigroup.com])
    • Re:IE7 is a dupe! (Score:2, Informative)

      by feste12 ( 265406 )
      To Microsoft's credit, if you install the IE7 beta, there is a one-click uninstall which reverts you back to IE6 (without even restarting your machine). The web developers out there shouldn't worry about testing their sites. They can always switch back to IE6.
    • And M$ says to dev, please install IE7 Beta and test your pages... except that if I do that, it kills IE6, and I can't check my pages as they'll be seen by 90% of visitors...

      This is part of the problem with the archaic install/uninstall system for programs on Windows. On OS X, most programs are completely self contained. They use a "folder is the application" metaphor, where double clicking on the folder (which ends in .app) launches the application, but at the same time you can open up the folder and se

  • Arn't they bored? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by el_womble ( 779715 )
    Is it just me or does Micorosft appear bored by IE7. Its not like its a finished product, they're are tens of standards that they don't conform too, its leaky and yet they're taking years between major revisions.

    I know in the 90s it looked like who ever won the browser wars would take over the world, but 10 years on that seems to be the business logic of the underpant gnomes. Why don't they just give up, and distribute Firefox, SeaMonkey or some Gecko based wonder, instead of IE?
    • How can you criticise IE for being leaky when every /.er's favourite browser (Firefox) is extremely leaky. When I close tabs I don't seem to get all my memory back. With just five tabs open, it's currently using 245MB of memory.
      • Re:Arn't they bored? (Score:4, Informative)

        by masklinn ( 823351 ) <`ten.nnilksam' `ta' `gro.todhsals'> on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @10:18AM (#14615203)
        I'd suggest switching to Firefox 1.5, which does free the tab's memory (unless it's within the set cache size and stuff), and actually remembering to set the cache size.
        • I am using Mozilla 1.5.

          After restarting the browser and restoring all of my tabs with their history (Tab Browser Extension), it's using 70MB instead of 250.

          Maybe the problem is with the tab browser extension, maybe it's with Firefox. I haven't seen much improvement in its memory usage since I upgraded a while back.
          • That doesn't demonstrate a problem with Firefox not freeing tabs' memory. It could be an unrelated memory bug. Several Firefox extensions (most notably Adblock) have been known to cause memory problems in Firefox 1.5, for example. If you can figure out what's causing the problem, be sure to post what it is to MozillaZine, unless it's a well-known extension problem.
            • Sorry, but I'm not going to spend my free time debugging Firefox. I spend enough of work life doing things like that and I want to get away from computers in my spare time. Besides, over the years I've become very disillusioned with the Mozilla folks and their attitudes. It's (and they're) just not worth my time nor effort. Which reminds me of a previous incident where Mozilla used to cause my system to BSOD - they denied it for a long long time until suddenly it turned out there was a massive resource
              • If you want to save time, don't waste it complaining about something that may or may not be a problem. I'm sure you have better things to do with your time that criticize some software that may not even be to blame for the problems you're having, right?

                If you don't want someone to criticize IE for having memory leaks, I suggest you don't criticize Firefox's memory usage.

      • I'll agree with you on that - Firefox is really bad with memory management, especially on windows.

        I really don't notice it though on my linux boxen...
        • Re:Arn't they bored? (Score:3, Informative)

          by Omestes ( 471991 )
          You should try it on OS X, it has been a persistant (and persistantly ignored) bug on OS X for the last couple version (pre-PR, even). It runs like FireFox did on Windows around 0.5 . I can't cite my own usage right now, because I'm using the G4 Deerpark port, so my memory and processor use will be slightly more in-line than vanilla Firefox.

          But with use, and exstensive tab use I will still climb into the hundreds of megs, even with the process idling. (App closed). As said above, the only way to clear u
      • Perhaps I should have been more verbose. My issue with IE isn't so much its memory leakage as much as the security holes. My real point was, that IE is too important as a platform for MS to get bored with it. Web technology is moving at a faster pace than it would appear Microsft can keep up with, and yet their browswer is still #1. The only reason I'd suggest going with a OSS broswer is that it frees microsofts engineers to focus on something that the company as a whole is more interested in.
        • Web technology is moving at a faster pace than it would appear Microsft can keep up with

          I don't think that's the case. If Microsoft wanted Internet Explorer to keep up with the other browsers, it would have done. But both the Internet Explorer developer teams were disbanded and the developers either left Microsoft or worked on other things. That's not a case of the developers being unable to keep up, that's a case of management deliberately discontinuing development.

          Can you really say that web t

    • Why don't they just give up, and distribute Firefox, SeaMonkey or some Gecko based wonder, instead of IE?

      For one thing, it would break a ton of both MS and third party apps developed to make use of the IE renderer.
  • The new browser also includes tabbed browsing and a search box on a more streamlined toolbar, concepts that should be familiar to users of Firefox, a rival browser distributed by the Mozilla Foundation.

    Maybe at their next huge product release, Microsoft could give some credit to Mozilla and Firefox for helping them make a better browser? Just a thought.
    • Now, you know that won't happen. That was a carefully written statement you quoted. What's left unsaid is that Firefox had all these features first. Again, Microsoft isn't going to admit that in any kind of written form.

      As has been said several times in posts here, the really sad part is that a lot of people will adopt IE7 (mainly because Microsoft's EOL/EOS update cycle will force them to do so), never knowing about the alternatives.

    • by CyricZ ( 887944 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @10:15AM (#14615190)
      I know you're joking, but keep in mind that many of the innovative developments which are credited to Firefox actually appeared first in other browsers, such as Opera, Konqueror, and Amaya. Tabs, ad blocking, mouse gestures, and so forth.

  • css fixes? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by oyenstikker ( 536040 )
    Did they fix the 3 pixel shift bug?
    Did they fix position:fixed?
    Did they fix float messing up other blocks?

    (I can't try it, as I use Windows 2000 Server.)
    • Re:css fixes? (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward
      You can "fool" it to run on other Microsoft Windows versions of the NT-family by:

      1.) Unzipping/extracting the distro file's files to an IE7 folder

      2.) Deleting the UPDATE subfolder that formed under it

      3.) Deleting the shlwapi.dll in that IE7 folder you made & extracted the IE7 distro files to

      4.) + lastly creating a BLANK FILE called IEXPLORE.exe.local with notepad.exe & putting it into the IE7 folder you made & extracted all the files from the Ie7 distro into.

      * :)

      (Fact is, in doing THAT above mys
    • Re:css fixes? (Score:5, Informative)

      by Bogtha ( 906264 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @10:24AM (#14615250)

      Yes, yes and yes [msdn.com].

      I appreciate that it's a genuine question, but a completely information-free comment should not be Score: 4, Insightful.

  • grow up (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Of course digg posts articles faster, but at least at slashdot, most of the users aren't fifteen year old kids with nothing better to do than post comments like "Mac is kOOL!"

    About the article..as for me, I'm really looking forward to IE7. For all the great aspects of firefox, it still has many shortcoming, like being extremely slow and opening the occasional webpage incorrectly.
    If IE7 can offer tab browsing and do a reasonable job, I might just switch back over. If it sucks, then I'll just stick with my
  • Ajax? (Score:2, Insightful)

    From the FA: IE 7 also includes a number of new features for Web developers, including support for up-and-coming Web-programming technologies known collectively as AJAX. How would they go about supporting this? Would it have a javascript extension for it or something? Really the only thing a browser needs to do for ajax is support the xml http request object, which IE does since 5.0 (I believe). The rest is up to the server side code. or not?
    • XMLHttpRequest becomes a full-fledged independant object in IE7, which means that you won't have to instantiate an ActiveX object for MSIE (which was the only "modern" browser not presenting an XMLHttpRequest object), and that you, if we one day manage to end IE6, will be able to scrape the ActiveX code path.
  • MS flip flop (Score:3, Insightful)

    by NoSuchGuy ( 308510 ) <do-not-harvest-m ... dot@spa.mtrap.de> on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @10:09AM (#14615156) Journal
    Didn't Microsoft tell me about 2 years ago that their customers don't want tabbed browsing?

    In 5 years they tell everyone they invented tabbed browsing years befor Opera and Firefox...

    • Re:MS flip flop (Score:4, Informative)

      by stubear ( 130454 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @11:37AM (#14615885)
      While it wasn't in Internet Explorer, Microsoft had tabbed browsing in their help browser (based on IE) for Visual Studio long before even Opera had tabbed browsing. You do know Opera had tabbed browsing before Firefox don't you? Firefox, contrary to Slashbot mythology, did not invent tabbed browsing, extensions, nor any of the other features that are common to the application. In fact, Firefox, while a competent browser, is nothing more than a shining example of the lack of innovation in the open source community. It clearly deomnstartes the lengths that open source developers will go to in aping features and design conventions from other apps and claiming them as their own, going as far, in some cases, as to claim they were invented by the open source application.
      • Re:MS flip flop (Score:3, Insightful)

        by mickwd ( 196449 )
        "You do know Opera had tabbed browsing before Firefox don't you?"

        I think you missed the words "Opera and" in the post you're replying to. But maybe I'm being too critical - after all, he used a whole TWO sentences, taking up a massive TWO lines of text.
  • by jmazzi ( 869663 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @10:09AM (#14615158) Homepage
    They seem to be just copying firefox, but it's still gonna be lacking in two major areas. Extensions and Security, in my opinion, are what makes firefox stand out.
  • by ninja_assault_kitten ( 883141 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @10:11AM (#14615170)
    But if looking at the progress between Beta1 and Beta2 I'm thoroughly impressed. The UI concerns I had with Beta1 have all been addressed. I really like where they seem to be going.
  • So? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by stlhawkeye ( 868951 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @10:14AM (#14615182) Homepage Journal
    If it can't render basic shit like min-width and respect viewport positioning, I don't care. Are they CSS 1 compliant yet? As in... fully?
  • Wandering (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Elixon ( 832904 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @10:15AM (#14615188) Homepage Journal
    It looks like it takes ages to implement few useful features in IE. The same features that are many times already available for the same or competing browsers as third-party plugging or extension that are developed by one or very few geeks.

    Is it that Microsoft is short of geeks? Is it so complex software that third-party developers are more effective and progressive then in-house developers?!

    Anyway, why are the browsers evolving so slowly? Look where is the 3D gaming industry! Look what progress they did. And now look what progress we (browser vendors) did on the WWW! I don't think that there is less money on the web then in the gaming industry...

    So why is it?
    (Is the main reason the insufficient cooperation ? Don't they see that competition in this area instead of cooperation hurts everybody? Look where IE ended up with thier individual and aggresive stance.)
    • MSIE is much more than just a browser. It's a basic component of the Windows OS. So, they have to be careful not to change the API. They also try to remain compatible with existing (broken!) sites.

      Firefox is no component. It's just the browser. Compatibility is no issue. They also care less about 'correct' rendering of broken sites.

      • I know. But isn't now the proper time to do what Mozilla did? They split the Mozilla Suit into parts because the similar problem... I think that every Web developer is suffering from Windows this way (not only Win developers, but really EVERY deveoper!).

        I don't really care if the IE is a component or not. I don't see any reason why should I break my web site compatibility with standards to be compatible with browser that tries to be compatible with Windows because it is A WIN COMPONENT.

        As a web developer I
  • by Salsaman ( 141471 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @10:19AM (#14615212) Homepage
  • The thumbnail of each page is something that AOL explorer does. It's kinda cool. Maybe someone will make a firefox extension that does the same thing.
  • Adblock (Score:2, Interesting)

    by edmicman ( 830206 )
    Where's the adblock extension for IE? Thats a good chunk of the reason I use FF over IE, just so I can turn off all the crap that I can't in IE....I might be tempted to try out IE7 at work, though....heh, I feel "guilty" using FF for looking up things and whatnot :-P
  • by james_bray ( 188143 ) * on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @10:38AM (#14615345) Homepage
    Just to save some people the bother of downloading....
  • by beforewisdom ( 729725 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @10:40AM (#14615357)
    As I was reading this article I kept thinking how MS copied these features that already existed in firefox and being annoyed how MS would get the glory for them all.

    I realized at that point, I had become one of the many Opera fans who have made similar posts about firefox and how Opera had x,y, & z first.
  • by Kasracer ( 865931 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @10:41AM (#14615363) Homepage
    Check out Slashdot itself. On Opera, Firefox, IE 5 and 6, it seems to render nicely. Check out Slashdot with IE7. A good chunk of the bottom overlaps all sorts of stuff. I can't read the last few lines of someone's reply if they're the last comment. Also, my website www.binaryidiot.com renders perfectly with IE 5, 6, Opera, Firefox, Safari, Konquerer. In IE7, it places the add that should be on the right, between the navigation and the content. There is a HUGE space there. For some reason I am also seeing a lot of horizontal scroll bars for many pages. Looks like I'm going to need to make even MORE server side code to make sure IE7 works correctly. This is very frustrating. I wish the rumour that Microsoft purchased Opera was real. At least then we'd have a decent browser to work with. Another thing bothering me about IE7 is all the inconsistancy. Some back and forth icons, as well as the Favorites Center icon all have jaggies on them (these are seem even more with theming off) yet the icons on the right of the address bar look flawless. Also, I'd say almost 100% of windows applications have a menu at the top. Does IE7? NO! You have the option for the class menu but then it places it between the address bar and the tabs. If you unlock the bars, you can't move it up or down. There is no setting to put it where it belongs and if you have theming on, it has some odd lines on it that don't do anything. I fear for the web
  • by Kasracer ( 865931 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @10:46AM (#14615405) Homepage
    If you open up a QuickTab page, PNGs do not show themselves correctly.

    To check, look at my site in QuickTabs (www.binaryidiot.com)
  • Tabbing has been in competing browsers for ages. It has been a killer feature of these browsers; tabbing makes browsing a lot more tidy and convenient.

    Yet Microsoft has managed to do the impossible; the screen real-estate reserved for the tabs is SO f**kin small, that anything more than a few tabs will already crowd the interface.

    Anyway, what I want to know is; has Microsoft fixed the major bug with JavaScript closures causing memory leaks?
  • by Gnascher ( 645346 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @10:48AM (#14615431)
    1. They are requesting that developers install it and test thier sites and report back. However, it installes OVER IE6, so you can't have them both on the same machine. This is a major showstopper for a developer, since we NEED to have IE6 installed for current functionality and compatibility.

    2. Fails the Acid2 test miserably

    3. They've moved the Refresh button to the right of the address bar, while the Forward and Back buttons remain in the same position ... this is just dumb. All the navigation buttons should be grouped.

    4. The "Stop Navigation" button has also been moved over to the right. They've also changed the look of the button to a red "X", so that it now looks like a "close something" button instead of a "stop this action" button.

    5. They've "fixed" the functionality that allows you to utilize many CSS hacks to compensate for IE's rendering flaws, however they haven't fixed the underlying bugs that the "hacks" were intended to fix. As a result, a lot of sites I checked out that rendered just fine in all current browsers (including IE6) are now broken in IE7, because the "hacks" no longer work in IE7, but thier standards complience is still shoddy, and thier box-model still sucks.

    6. The graphics for the tabs looks "clunky" as compared to other tabbed browsers.

    7. They've hidden the main menu, so now you have to go through a few clicks to find the options that used to be only 1 or 2 clicks away.

    Overall, I hope they don't think that this release is close to production readiness. They've changed a number of things just so that they look different, while in the process breaking a number of UI conventions that have long been established an work.

    They've still got a lot of work to do in thier CSS support ... I don't understand why even some of the most basic CSS functionality is beyond thier ability to grasp. I can understand some of the more 'advanced' CSS features being a little tricky to interpret and implement, but basic positioning, sizing, padding and margin issues should be pretty easy to understand.

    They claim to have fixed .PNG alpha channel transparency, and that's true ... to a point, but it doesn't work when the .png with transparency is used in a layer in some cases.

    One thing I can applaud them on is that they've added the ability to use XMLHttpRequest without using thier proprietary ActiveX control, which will simplify those of us writing AJAX code into our web apps. They claim the old ActiveX method will still work for legacy support though.

    So, that's my take. They've come a long way from IE6 ... but I beleive that they've got a long way to go in order to have a final release of IE7 that can truly compete against the other players in today's browser market.
  • Will the HTML source code be easily readable with contextual highlighting like all the other browsers or will they still use notepad?

    I know a few web developers that have been IE diehards and use FF for the source code highlighting. They don't use tabs, don't know what tabs are, and don't want to know how to use tabs. It really bugs be because they'll have 5 FF windows open at one time.
    • For now, view-source sitll uses notepad. I don't know if they've any intention to change this.

      However, If you want contextual highlighting on IE view-source, just replace your OS-supplied notepad with one of the developer's notepad apps out there.
  • by AC-x ( 735297 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @11:39AM (#14615904)
    The iexplore.exe.local trick seems to work for IE7.

    Simply download the installer, use WinRAR or similar to unpack the installer into a folder, add an empty file called "iexplore.exe.local" then run iexplore.exe.

    No having to uninstall IE6, or even install IE7 at all. The interface gets a bit messed up but it's definitely running a new engine (still some CSS bugs I can see tho, tut tut....)
    • "The interface gets a bit messed up but it's definitely running a new engine (still some CSS bugs I can see tho, tut tut....)"

      Ok, so installing IE7 as a stand-alone with the hack you mentioned messes up the interface. That's a bug you can see that's obvious. What are the non-obvious bugs that get introduced as a result of this hack? I don't know, and there is no way of knowing without some serious regression testing.

      For now, the only option for a developer is to have IE7 installed on another machin

    • by Wierdy1024 ( 902573 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @01:56PM (#14617491)
      I highly recommed AGAINST doing this - IE7 runs fine, great etc., but when you close IE you'll find that windows explorer can no longer open folders, and that Internet explorer can open a web page, but hyperlinks no longer work. If a hyperlink is clicked 152 internet explorer windows open up, all saying "Action Canceled", and then the machine runs out of memory. I spent ages with system restore and registry backups trying to undo all IE7's registry changes, but in the end I had to format and re-install windows.

  • Channel 9 Video (Score:2, Informative)

    by BunkAsInBed ( 686400 )
    http://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=1594 60 [msdn.com] has a video of some of the IE development crew talking. The interesting thing was there was a googl hat on the desk of the office he guy was in.
  • The Explorer "Quick Tabs" seems to be inspired by the "Tab Exposé" feature that's been a part of the the Shiira web browser on the Mac since last April (it was introduced in one of the 0.9.* releases).

    Shiira is an open source browser that's based, like Safari, on Apple's KHTML port (the Webkit framework on OS X 10.3 and later)... which is also open source.

    Tab Exposé screenshot [hmdt-web.net]

    Tab Exposé movie [hmdt-web.net]

    Shiira English home page [hmdt-web.net]
  • by wolverine1999 ( 126497 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2006 @12:11PM (#14616304) Homepage

    This page explains how you can run both on the same PC without needing a virtual machine. It works well for me.

    http://weblogs.asp.net/jgalloway/archive/2005/12/2 8/434132.aspx [asp.net]
  • Where's the... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by MarkVVV ( 740454 )
    "Open in new tab" in the context menu?
  • Along with the currently existing Foxpose mentioned above there is also the currently existing Reveal

    https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?application=firefox&id=1942 [mozilla.org]

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