Some Hope During Registerfly's Meltdown 123
hookmeister writes "If you registered your domain at Registerfly.com, then you should know it may be locked, and you are at the moment unable to access it through Registerfly's website (video). You may even be unable to renew your domain because it has expired into a status known as 'redemption' through no fault of your own. By all accounts there are just under 2 million domains at risk here. Enom dumped them as a reseller; their SSL cert has expired; it's a mess. Fortunately the principals in this are trying to restore order. The external website registerflies.com, originally crafted as a gripe-zone and forum for Registerfly users, has gotten inside the ranks of the post-shakup Registerfly management, made some friends and connections, and is creating a back-door problem-reporting form that goes directly to those who can correct a domain problem. The official Registerfly support ticketing system remains clogged with thousands of unanswered complaints."
Registerfly? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Registerfly? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Registerfly? (Score:5, Informative)
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From the Policy on Transfer of Registrations between Registrars [icann.org]:
8. Effect on Term of Registration
The completion by Registry Operator of a holder-authorized transfer under this Part A shall result in a one-year extension of the existing registration, provided that in no event shall the total unexpired term of a registration exceed ten (10) years.
eNorm shouldn't be charging for transfers though
Your register fly is down (Score:2, Funny)
XYZ?
Their hanger door is open?
They've got Windows in their laptop
We can see their Gun of Navarone?
I have more...
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Yeah, but dead bodies don't fall out of open windows...
Re:Registerfly? (Score:5, Informative)
Actually, at some point enom was offering to allow registerfly customers to become enom.com customers at no cost:
scroll down [enom.com] about 2/3 of the way and see the section "OPTION 1".
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Registerfly was trying to get everyone to transfer back at a discounted price.
I didnt have to pay a cent and the enom staff have been rather helpful.
Re:Registerfly? (Score:5, Informative)
best read for the moment can be found here http://registerflies.com/welcome-to-the-registerf
A lot of people have been burned by the circumstances leading up to this.
Re:Registerfly? (Score:5, Interesting)
Actually it turned out to be a small warehouse office space with a few servers and high school drop-outs for staff. The tie-in with the phone company was total BS and some sleuthing revealed that the other family business was closer to being a fertilizer business (no really!) than anything else. I got off that system just in time. I lost some things, but not much, people who waited a bit longer lost everything including access to their domains etc.
When I looked for a replacement I was much more careful to look for telltale signs that it was the same kind of, for lack of a better term "soft-fraud" operation. I think I got pretty good at it, but what scared me was the percentage of fairly well known companies that were using the same boilerplate text and generic graphics of their facilities. One thing I especially looked for was if no actual peoples names appeared on the web site. Big companies have "Chairmen" and "CEOs" who love to get their pictures on the corporate web site. These fly-by-night outfits on the other hand just have support contact numbers that go to an answering machine and not indication that anyone associated with the company wants their actual name to show up anywhere. You have to wonder why. Or maybe you don't.
I'm almost positive that Registerfly (and I think they had a hosting come-on too) was one of these fairly obvious scam operations. I'm SOOOO glad I stayed away.
My hope is that in the not too distant future Google and some other big names will get into the free-to-low-cost hosting and registration business and put these low-life vermin out of our misery.
Google free hosting already (Score:1)
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this is what happens when you make too many "friends and connections" -- you end up with a back-door problem. happens all the time.
I was one of those people (Score:5, Informative)
Re:I was one of those people (Score:4, Insightful)
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Questions: Others? Who do you recommend? (Score:2)
What other registrar would you recommend?
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They're good enough that I never have problems in the first place; I prefer that to having problems and getting them solved.
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Can enom be trusted? (Score:3, Interesting)
See this recent Slashdot story with recommended domain name registrars [slashdot.org].
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You *have* to do what the email says to transfer elsewhere I think anyway.
Until you do so the domains arent associated with any account.
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Are there any... (Score:2)
These guys should not be in business (Score:1)
Their software does not work at all.
I had 2 big issues:
1. One of the domains I owned just disappeared from my account. After man minutes on the phone it was restored.
2. When I tried to pay to renew did not seem to work. The credit card submit page just died on you. I tried again. Later got a failure notice in the email and my credit card was charged twice.
Thankfully switched in time
Simply awesome (Score:5, Informative)
These domains were completely unrelated to the two that were never transferred in but for which I was billed. RegisterFly staff called me names on the phone, and finally handed them back in exchange for my payment of a $75 ransom over their threats that if I didn't pay up, they'd sell them, as was their "right" under their unconscionable contract terms.
I hope everyone affiliated with running the scam known as Registerfly burns in hell.. and my friends who didn't listen to my advice to get out of their while they still could: sorry suckers, but i tried to warn you.
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The card company didn't even question my dispute of the charges. In fact, the service agent went out of her way to mention that with "this vendor" they don't even give them a change before processing the dispute to let them "prove" the billings were legit.. because there were so many chargebacks against their account.
Here I should point out that chargebacks could b
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I completely agree. This is what I meant b
Any recommended registrars out there? (Score:2, Interesting)
What is a reasonable registrar, these days?
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Re:Any recommended registrars out there? (Score:5, Interesting)
In short: Some guy was hosting automated archives of mailing lists. Someone sent a list of MySpace usernames and passwords through the list, which were automatically archived. MySpace threw a hissy fit. Instead of filing any legal paperwork, or even bothering to contact the owner, they went straight to GoDaddy and said "This site is hosting illegal content. Pull it down." GoDaddy complied, no questions asked. GoDaddy didn't contact the owner, either.
Note: the site wasn't even hosted with GoDaddy. GoDaddy was merely the registrar.
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Seems to be reliable and dirt cheap. $6.99.
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I use DynDNS [dyndns.com]. I haven't had any problems with their domain registration (or hosting) services. Their refund policy is pretty good; pro-rated, no questions asked.
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We had an AskSlashdot about this [slashdot.org] recently. Personally, I use and recommend NameCheap [namecheap.com] which is another eNom reseller. This is mainly because of their clean control panel and low prices.
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Excellent support, even through all the various hardware related issues they had 6 months or so. They definitely have a small company feel (meaning things do go wrong at times), but they fix issues _very_ quickly, they will refund your money if you are unhappy, and their support is just excellent cross the board.
Give them a try. I know lots of people have been upset with them because of their hosting issues, but as far as I'm concerned, although they are not perfect, they put a lot of effor
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If you're just going to redirect the nameservers to your webhost, I'd highly recommend Yahoo Small Business [yahoo.com]. Seriously, $10 a year, and the service has been pretty top notch compared to the other registrars I've dealt with.
If you do any web design/development, I'd also recommend Dreamhost [dreamhost.com]. They're a reluctant registrar, as they mostly provide it as a service to bolster their website hosting business, but their support is very good.
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Also, they require you to put a credit card on file, and there is no way to remove the card from your account unless you "cancel all services" beforehand... including domain hosting.
so, that's nuts.
There also (as of the time I finally got some domains out of there) was no way to NOT automatically renew a domain registration... and this happens somewhere around 30+ days before expiration, no way to turn it off unless you've managed to transfer it out b
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They are more expensive than GoDaddy (by a significant amount), but my domains are valuable to me. And if they ever mess up my domains, there is a real brick-and-mortar building I can go to, with a real flesh-and-blood geek I can beat up.
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Well (Score:3, Informative)
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Re:Well (Score:5, Interesting)
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What Happened? (Score:2, Interesting)
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yes, definitely do that. It'll be amusing. Not interesting really, but amusing in an "oh there goes another cheapwad, who saw his fate in the future and ignored it" sort of way, which makes it slightly more interesting.
Enom Sucks (Score:2)
So much for that... (Score:1)
(I prefer Bluehost, which manages it's own hosting servers and nameservers on-site.)
Explanation:- (Score:5, Informative)
* Joint Director Kevin Medina was removed from the company for embezzlement of funds due to Registerfly's inability to pay it's upsream registrars.
source http://registerflies.com/docman/cat_view.html [registerflies.com]
complaints Filed in new Jersey:- Claims
1) Wiring 3x $9000 to personal accounts
2) $10000 to pay rent on apartment on a monthly basis
3) Paying large personal credit card bills
4) $6000 for liposuction
5) tens of thousands on "personal spending"
* they terminated Kevin Medina
http://registerflies.com/docman/doc_download-5.ht
* Kevin Medina caused other untold system problems *not verified from any source, just speculation on registerflies
* Registerfly seem to be concentrating on fixing this.
Pretty confusing though.
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Long Time Coming (Score:3, Interesting)
http://fallingbullets.com/blog/2006/dec/10/regist
Thankfully, I managed to get all my domains back.
Demand that ICANN invoke para. 3.2.3 (Score:5, Interesting)
It's time for ICANN to invoke paragraph 3.2.3 of the Registrar Agreement [icann.org]. The Registrar then has ten days to provide a data dump of all their registrations, allowing bulk transfer of a failing registrar's data to another registrar.
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www.registerflies.com [registerflies.com] - sign-up as a member and click the "Support Form" link to the upper top right of the homepag
personal experience at IYD.com (Score:2, Interesting)
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Now that it see
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Registerflybynight... (Score:2)
Clueless support for .CA domains (Score:2)
Burned (Score:1)
why I respect PayPal (Score:1)
Later, after they became a "Certified" registrar, problems started occurring. Items I purchased in my cart charged my PayPal account, but were never actually recorded as purchases. This happened 3 times before I got ticked off and tried calling, note that they no longer had
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i've learnt the hard way that with troublesome registrars a transfer just before expiry is a bad idea for both your sanity and your chances of keeping the domain, make the transfers while you still have plenty of time left to deal with s
I recommend moving your domains elsewhere ASAP (Score:2)
blacklist-on-sight policy for any domain registered with
it. Their complete failure to take any action against any
domain -- for spamming, spyware, phishing, and worse --
indicates to me that the registrar is run by incompetent amateurs.
I won't recommend another registrar because I don't want
it to seem like I'm shillling for them; but I'll recommend also
avoiding GoDaddy, Bulkregister, GKG, Nameking and Domains at Cost
simply to avoid sending someone from f
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I used to applaud GoDaddy for how they would bring the mallet down on bulk spammer registrations, but after seeing how they behave in general now, I wouldn't trust them to tell me the time. enom's lack of action suddenly seems benign in comparison (though I still t
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Luckily, I had the domain registration with another company, so I was able after nearly a month of no service to
Too many problems with others, now I use... (Score:2)
I've worked with Network Solutions, 1&1, GoDaddy, Register.com, and others... honestly I have been dissatisfied with all of them. Back in the day, Netsol was the only game in town, but that's not true anymore. But in the full range, either the service or system sucks (e.g. 1&1), it's too expensive (e.g. Netsol, Enom), or I really detest their advertising (e.g. GoDaddy).
So now I use CheapCheap.biz [cheapcheap.biz] for a few reasons: the prices are decent, the DNS controls are actually intelligent and usable (unli
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Sponsoring Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
Name Server: NS3.SECURESERVER.NET
Name Server: NS4.SECURESERVER.NET
Wild West Domains and Secureserver.net are both names used by GoDaddy for their reseller programs.
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Like it or not, it's still true. Think of it as "cause marketing" for a friend's cause (in this case, his company).
But if it makes you happy, I've added another "cause" to my sig. Nonprofit this time. What's your favorite cause, Anonymous Coward?
Just goes to show (Score:2)
...oh, wait.
FINALLY (Score:1)
GKG (Score:1)
Their prices compare to other registrars (including GoDaddy) as far as domain names are concerned. I've never had a problem with them. They've been in business over 14 years, so if you are looking for a new registrar, give GKG.NET [gkg.net] a try.
Registerflies.com down also? (Score:2)
Re:Registerflies.com down also? -- Not (Score:1)
Registerflies Problems - IP Address (Score:1)
Please follow these directions. The site had to be moved and you may be on the old server as the propagated nameserves haven't reached the world yet.
Please follow these instructions to see the new site on the new server:
You will need
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IP address please (Score:1)
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If you don't find my post to assist you in this useful enough, please wait 24 to 48 hours for everything to propagate through it's natural course on the net. Thank you!
By far the worst registrar anywhere (Score:1)
Registerfly's main problem (besides this fiasco) is their horrendously bad website. For years it took 15 seconds per page request to edit changes on a
I moved to eNom... (Score:1)
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eNom also allows you to get the Auth code, and I started to move my domains. All looks fine by using eNom, but I am still curious if something goes wrong.
Registerflies.com is down as of 22:30 EST 2/22/07 (Score:1)
MOD PARENT UP! (Score:1)
Not to invoke the old "think of the children" chestnut, but... think of the children! As much as I'd like to think younger computer junkies read Charles Dickens in their spare time, the reality is that sites like this make an impression. A *little* effort in improving the writing style and grammar will have, I think, a significant positive impact.
So think of the children in Soviet Russia beowulf ckus
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Furthermore, if anyone involved with this article -- not that there is one, except a shitty video -- would have spent the literal five minutes I spent to clean it up, it wouldn't h
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And no I don't have to justify anything I say to you, either. But I do think you need to grow up.
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