Google buys DoubleClick for $3.1 Billion 351
marvinalone writes "The New York Times reports that Google has purchased DoubleClick. That seems to be the conclusion to the speculation we've talked about earlier. From the article: 'Google reached an agreement today to acquire DoubleClick, the online advertising company, from two private equity firms for $3.1 billion in cash, the companies announced, an amount that was almost double the $1.65 billion in stock that Google paid for YouTube late last year.'"
whoa (Score:5, Funny)
Re:whoa (Score:5, Interesting)
When I saw this headline, all I could think was "Google buys up another chunk of the internet." Seriously -- DoubleClick is everywhere. It's almost like google's trying to become the web.
Re:whoa (Score:5, Interesting)
I always thought the name of the game was to keep your focus
and not dilute your efforts. And as far as I can tell,
the only reason Google is everywhere that Microsoft wants to
go is because they see what Google does, and want to emulate
that. That is reactive, and seems like a sure way to lose
your way. I dont like Microsoft much as a company, but
in the past you had to give them credit for not losing
focus. They kept after things they started until they got
it basically usable, and mostly solid. And did a better
job of that than many other companies. Microsoft should
be concerned with finding the ( lawful ) strategies and
tactics that get them where they want to be, and stop letting
other companies define so much of thier roadmap.
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Re:whoa (Score:5, Funny)
+12, -4, +10, +7, -7, +15
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google
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Re:whoa (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't know about that. GMail, and Google Earth/Google Maps are very useful content. Sure, they are just another way to push more advertising, but it is content.
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It's great, but it's not content.
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Absolutely. Office's help files are content, though. Office apps are content containers, just like Gmail.
MSN (or whatever it's called these days) isn't content; your instant messages are.
Absolutely.
Windows isn't content; your data are.
Absolutely.
What's your definition of "content" then?
There are dictionary definitions for such things:
"Something contained, as in a receptacle. Often used in the plural: the contents of my desk drawer; the contents of an aero
Re:D'OH! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:D'OH! (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't know anyone who doesn't block doubleclick.
Re:D'OH! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:D'OH! (Score:4, Interesting)
In reality though, I know a lot of people who didn't even have a pop-up blocker until it was finally added to Internet Explorer. Blocking ads on web pages? I don't know a single non-geek who has an adblocker installed. If they're not interested, they just ignore them.
Re:D'OH! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:D'OH! (Score:4, Interesting)
The cynic in me is wondering: What if this was a Microsoft ploy. Everyone said Google was bidding to drive the price up for MS... what if MS was only feigning interest so that google would drop 3 Gigabills on something that is pretty much blocked to hell and back by anyone with clue.
Re:D'OH! (Score:5, Insightful)
You mean 1% of the population? Outside of my household, I haven't seen a single ad-blocker installed on anyone's computer. Most people just ignore the ads.
Doubleclick is still making hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue every year, so they clearly still have a viable business model, however evil you think it is.
Re:D'OH! (Score:5, Insightful)
Based on your careful due diligence, no doubt. Or is that just some number you pulled out of your ass that "seems more reasonable" to you.
So what you think happened? Google called them up, got a quote of 3.1 Billion, and said "OK, if that's what you think it's worth."?
Let me be the first one to say... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Let me be the first one to say... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Let me be the first one to say... (Score:4, Funny)
Sad to say, but (Score:2)
Usually when google picks up a property, it's one with a bit of vision. Does DC have something technologically interesting under the hood somewhere?
Re:Sad to say, but (Score:5, Interesting)
Although I also wandered what Google was getting itself into buying a company that notoriously places tracking cookies on computers everywhere, I can see what they're trying to do. I only hope that Google will clean them up instead of Doubleclick dirtying Google. They should stop putting tracking cookies on people's computers, remove any tracking cookies already on the computer, and deny any overly flashy banner ads. That would strongly increase Google's credibility and help eliminate some of the garbage on the Internet.
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Re:Sad to say, but (Score:5, Interesting)
Google ad sense operates on a different level...using cookies is just part of the game. Via IP pingbacks, toolbar tracking, and account identification, users may unkowningly be giving out alot more data than they realize.
Say for instance that you use Gmail. or any Google service that requires login. Google can track you via that login to each site you visit that has a google ad (70% of the net from what I understand). See, doubleclick never had this part of the equation...they never had account info. Google can tie your IPs, usernames, email content, and web browsing activity...and you can't do jack about it (short of blocking the google scripts themselves). Even without login account info, Google has the ability to track your individual machine via IP pingbacks. If you nav to page one, the google ad gets your exposed ip, then the next page you visit that has a google ad...yep..that ip is used to track that navigation. No cookie needed. Of course, if your behind a firewall, only the firewall ip would get exposed. But still...do you really want to give anyone that much information about you?
obligatory (Score:5, Funny)
no, really!
Won't change much for me (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Won't change much for me (Score:5, Interesting)
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Hasn't happened yet though... six years ago when I started blocking ads I thought it would become inevitable.
Ad blocking will turn Bayesian, like spam blocking (Score:3)
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So long as they're small unobtrusive ads, I don't mind it very much.
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Likewise, browsing website A will often give negative opinions of it, sponsored by website B. "Toolset A buggy? Try Toolset B!" etc.
That's when they got blocked.
Bad ad-approval monkeys. No banana for you.
Those generic eBay ads (Score:5, Funny)
I was once looking for information on Nigerian scams, a.k.a. 419 scams, a.k.a. advance fee fraud scams. And, I kid you not [hyperborea.org], among the ads on the Google results page for "nigerian scam" was an ad that read:
I found the same type of ad for "419 scam," then did some random searches, and at the time, eBay seemed to have picked up a whole bunch of two-word phrases.
Re:Those generic eBay ads (Score:5, Funny)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/05/ebay_stev
The Tragedy of the Template (Score:5, Funny)
Babies
Looking for Babies?
Find exactly what you want today
www.ebay.com
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Re:Won't change much for me (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, I'm a little obsessive.
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its the web brownies that will get you every time.
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When he eats his first Brownie!
I felt a great disturbance in the Force... (Score:5, Funny)
Actually (Score:2, Funny)
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Hmmm (Score:4, Insightful)
I wonder how long until it becomes obligatory to hate Google...
Re:Hmmm (Score:4, Interesting)
Seriously though, Google doesn't have a monopoly on on-line text advertising (even pay per-click), Yahoo has got into that business (formally Overture)[http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com] and I'm sure other companies have as well. This [http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/columns/executi
And there are still heaps of other advertisers out their, and you know what, I block almost all of them (Adblock and NoScript, 'tis great). (For most sites, it is seriously, if they can't cope without my viewing their ads (even if I'm never going to ever buy anything), then I guess I can do without them. For sites like this, I like to think that I am helping to contribute to more people coming here by having insightful and interesting comments. After all, that is what gets the people looking at the site, and thus the ads.)
What ever happened to ... (Score:5, Insightful)
Every doubleclick host that I can identify is permanently blocked here for web bugs and Dartmail. I don't see that changing any time soon, either.
One could hope that Google will change Doubleclick's behavior before putting their own name on the services.
Re:What ever happened to ... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Right. It's nothing to do with China; it's to do with American greed, plain and simple. It started (IMO) at the IPO.
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It's not offbase to ask the person who sneers at "do no evil" to think about their own standards. Are your principles just PR because you've had to make difficult moral decisions, or even evil decisions? Does being a corporation imply that Google must be full of it, while you should be forgiven?
"Do no evil" is an impossibly high bar that Google has chosen to be accountable to. When they screw up, they get to hear about it from cynics like you, who pretend to see the world through black-an
Re:What ever happened to ... (Score:4, Funny)
Stop crying about it. This is yesterday's news, as we know all corporations are evil by definition.
The new rage is corporations which are open to how evil they are, such as Microsoft's new slogan for 2008 "We're evil", and Yahoo's campaign "Tell us how we can be evil for you today", trying to tighten Yahoo's communication with their users.
Google is also planning a new PR image, but since it would be quite shocking to their existing fans, the search engine plants a gradual transition, where they will change their slogan every month such as "Evil 5%", "Evil 10%", "Evil 15%" until they reach 100%.
I hope it was for the client list (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:I hope it was for the client list (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:I hope it was for the client list (Score:5, Informative)
Doubleclick operated under the '3rd party' cookie system. Sites hosted thier cookies, and users of modern browsers had the ability to decide, or 'opt in' to being tracked by third party cookies. Of course, most browsers by default blocked them, and life was good.
Google ad sense operates on a different level...using cookies is just part of the game. Via IP pingbacks, toolbar tracking, and account identification, users may unkowningly be giving out alot more data than they realize.
Say for instance that you use Gmail. or any Google service that requires login. Google can track you via that login to each site you visit that has a google ad (70% of the net from what I understand). See, doubleclick never had this part of the equation...they never had account info. Google can tie your IPs, usernames, email content, and web browsing activity...and you can't do jack about it (short of blocking the google scripts themselves).
Even without login account info, Google has the ability to track your individual machine via IP pingbacks. If you nav to page one, the google ad gets your exposed ip, then the next page you visit that has a google ad...yep..that ip is used to track that navigation. No cookie needed. Of course, if your behind a firewall, only the firewall ip would get exposed. But still...do you really want to give anyone that much information about you?
Now slashdot needs a new meme (Score:5, Funny)
Doogleclick?
Doobleclick?
Goobleclick?
Youtoogleclick?
No matter who buys it... (Score:5, Funny)
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It's "Shit Vista"
Re:Now slashdot needs a new meme (Score:5, Funny)
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What about DoubleGoock?
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Goebbelclick [wikipedia.org] Popup ads for keywords such as 'Panzer' or 'u-boat'.
"Don't Be Evil?" (Score:5, Insightful)
Schwab
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It's f*****d company all over again. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:It's f*****d company all over again. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:It's f*****d company all over again. (Score:5, Funny)
A duck hunter is out early one morning hunting ducks. He's not having a lot of luck and he's about ready to pack it in and go home.
Then he catches a break and shoots a duck. The duck falls to the ground on the other side of a fence. He hops the fence to grab the duck
and a farmer appears from nowhere and asks "What are you doing with my duck?" The hunter says "That's my duck! I shot it." The farmer replies "Doesn't matter -- it's on my land. But I'll tell you what. We'll take turns kicking each other in the nuts as hard as we can until one of us gives up. The winner keeps the duck. Oh, and I kick first." So the farmer winds up and kicks the hunter square in the nuts. The pain is so awful the hunter throws up and then collapses. 10 minutes later, he tentatively gets to his feet and says "Okay, my turn." To which the farmer replies "That's okay, you can keep the duck."
I have a sneaking suspicion Microsoft wasn't that interested in DoubleClick. But they wanted to make damn sure that Google overpaid for it.
Re:It's f*****d company all over again. (Score:4, Insightful)
127.0.0.1 atdmt.com
127.0.0.1 adbrite.com
127.0.0.1 doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 googlesyndication.com
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But if they can get the money from doubleclick customers... good for them.
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Confrimation on the Google Blog (Score:4, Informative)
So what? (Score:2)
Almost = $200 million (Score:2)
Goddamn corporations and their stock, even if it is Google.
they never said BUY no evil... (Score:5, Funny)
haha (Score:5, Funny)
Ha, you could imagine it like this: The people at doubleclick just got paid 3.1 BILLION dollars.
By Google.
Have a great weekend.
Strategy? (Score:2, Interesting)
$3B - what GOOD could have been done.. (Score:2)
I don't even know what 3 billion dollars is. the number is too mind bogglingly big.
what good things ('do no evil', huh?) could have been better accomplished rather than put so much money into an advertising firm's pocket?
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Not Evil (Score:2)
From the article:
It also gives Google access to the data that Doubleclick has acquired. Doubleclick will probably be no more and merge into Google's Adsense.
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I think it's fairly obvious that Google can de-evil Doubleclick if they want to. I think it's also fairly obvious that it won't happen overnight, and that entire time Google will not be following its slogan.
Google + Doubleclick (Score:2)
Official Google Blog Announcement (Score:2, Informative)
They did it to change DoubleClick (Score:2, Interesting)
Time to get paid... (Score:2)
New slogan for the Doubleclick division... (Score:3, Interesting)
Hope so. But then again, I hope for world peace as well.
Hosting (Score:3, Funny)
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You mean (Score:2)
Well, besides a new home if you got in when they were at 85. Damn inane stock market.
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Yahoo have got into the business as well (when they bought Overture I think). There are also heaps of others, from my Adblock list,
adsdk
fastclick
bluestreak
adsfac
mediaplex
serving-sys
tribalfusion
And heaps more. Not to mention all the individual site advertising (http://ads.guardian.co.uk for example).
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This means they are in a luxurious position for a certain time to come, during this time window they have to strategically buy companies that are in their way and companies that are building new things before that window closes.
I think that the Doubleclick company was from the "in the way" category, so it does not
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There's a hidden clause in the motto: "Don't be evil...outsource your evil instead!"
Evil began with email? (Score:2)
Really, I thought home-grown "evil" emerged when they decided to scan your email in order to better target advertising. Of course, they can argue you volunteered to have your emails scanned.
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Well, you agreed to the Terms of Use. Don't like 'em? Go to Yahoo.
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Is the google's share of online ad market large enough to warrant a Justice investigation?
Re:Holy crap (Score:4, Funny)
127.0.0.1 localhost mymachine
127.0.1.1 mymachine
127.0.0.1 *.google.com
127.0.0.1 *.doubleclick.*
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We already lost when we started thinking of ourselves as "consumers" instead of "citizens" or "people." Whether Google bought DoubleClick or not, that wouldn't change.