Microsoft Buys Ad Firm for $6 Billion 167
bain writes "The BBC is reporting that Microsoft has agreed to buy the digital marketing firm Aquantive, in what will be its biggest ever acquisition. The software giant spent almost $6 billion acquiring the agency, in its first bid to tackle the online advertising market. 'The deal is expected to be completed in the first half of 2008, subject to regulation. Microsoft said the expensive price tag was worth it to access the complementary technology of Aquantive. The firm will continue to operate from Seattle as part of Microsoft's online operations, and will help the software giant broaden the scope of services its MSN consumer internet unit can offer. Microsoft is the latest technology firm to pounce on the shrinking independent online advertising sector.'"
Other potential buyouts? (Score:2)
Microsofts newest aquisition (Score:5, Interesting)
And TV? (Score:2)
MSNBC online running ads from Aquantive for Windows Vista.
Eventually:
MSNBC running ads from Aquantive for XBox720.
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You know what's funny about that? If you're using a MS OS, they can ignore your hosts file.
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I use Mike's Ad blocking hosts file, although I haven't checked to see if Aquantive is on the list of blocked URLs. I use it on both my Windows computer and my Linux computer. It can also be used with Mac OSX. Whenever Mike's website comes out with an updated version of his Ad Blocking Hosts file I update my computer's hosts file. However, it wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft eventually tries to create some kind of problems for users who dare to try to block any of Aquantive's URLs either through a hosts
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Yeesh.
"Microsoft's gonna do evil, you just know it, cause it's ... Microsoft!"
Here's a hint, add the following to your hosts file:
127.0.0.1 ads1.msn.com
Hey, look, the ads served on MSN.com by that server are blocked!
But let's not let little details like that get in the way.
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-nB
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Is that larger or smaller than a googolyplexy?
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Google has upped the bidding to eleventy billion dollars, a number which does not even exist. Yet.
Your Google Overloards saysotherwise:
Results 1 - 10 of about 186,000 for eleventy. (0.16 seconds)
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Oh my god, you overpaid for a ten year supply of gas two years ago and now it's way more expensive. Guess you were right at the time.
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That, and this is what I find interesting. Kmart bought Sears for $11 billion. Sears has been around for a number of years. They are known for their kenmore (albeit rebranded) and craftsman product lines. They have real inventory, real stores, and real employees. Chrysler was recently sold for 7.4 billion. Well, 80% of it, but I'm talking ballpark figures here.
Today, MS buys Aquantive. I've never heard of them before now. I would imagine this amounts to a database and some office space and maybe a website or something.
I saw a headline the other day where the kid who made facebook (just a website), refused to sell for $2billion.
To me, this seems overinflated. I guess that your ROI on "real" things like sears and chrysler dwarfs databases and websites.
I guess this makes sense when you think that we are in the information/service age and we have left the industrial age, but this still seems a bit strange.
Real things are hard to make and profit from. (Score:3, Insightful)
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Actually he refused to sell for $750 million to Viacom in January of 2006 and again in September, this time to Yahoo, for $900 million (although negotiations are presumably ongoing with the offer still on the table since neither side has announced publicly that they are pulling out of the deal). I don't know what the book value of the Facebook is, but if I were in his shoes then I probably would have sold to Viacom for $750 million provided that the offer was all or mostly cash AND that I could walk away at any time with my money if I didn't like the way that Viacom was running the business or if they were interfering...same for Yahoo. You can always take the money, shore up your financial position, and then found another company or simply retire to private life. These geeks are playing a very dangerous game by trying to squeeze that last few hundred million out what is already a pretty large pot of gold. Just imagine what happens when the deal falls through because you were stubborn and the market or technology changes and you are left with the burnt out shell of a dot.bomb company? Most people would probably have difficulty recovering from that type of a psychological blow...some probably never would. If you are ever in that enviable position then take the money and run if you don't like the way that things are going.
Of course, I am not in that position and it could be argued that given the amount of risk he took on to build the company to the point where he *could* sell it that he is either one of those people that thrives on insane risks and has a pair to match, he knows some *crucial* piece of information that we don't, or he is just plain stupid (unlikely). I tend to favor the risk taker hypothesis myself, that is probably why he controls an almost billion dollar corporation and I do not. On the other hand I would like to save enough money to die someplace warm when I am old and I don't fancy the idea of going broke a couple of times along the way on the outside chance that I might be in exactly the right place with exactly the right product at exactly the right time to make a killing, but that is just me I suppose.
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It may be that he knows the true value of his company. Perhaps he has already stashed away enough money for the rest of his life so he isn't worried about the company going broke. Perhaps he is expecting his company to continue to grow in value. Maybe he just doesn't like Viacom. Perhaps he loves his job and the respect it garners; and perhaps that's worth more to him than $750 million.
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Shut up, you insensitive clod! (Jean-Louis Gassée)
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Yeah, Google is much more efficient than MS in detecting and buying evil companies.
After seeing what MS has done in the past, I wonder why people are so happy to see another giant outwitting MS in its own game.
Oh, I almost forgot, Google, unlike Microsoft will not use the evil tactics of DoubleClick and they fight underground for human rights in China.
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Hate to break this to you, but aQuantive is much bigger than DoubleClick. Microsoft may have overpaid, but not nearly as much as everybody's claiming.
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In a shock-and-awe move, Engadget publishes a bogus email that underlying technology, a phalanx of cavemen and geckos, is in visa trouble and will have to lay low in Zambiniland for at least six months.
The resulting price crash effectively wipes out the value of the acquisition, and Redmond is out close to nineteeny billion+(omfg).
And that about wraps up our sports coverage for this evenin
Compare all replies to replies from Google deal (Score:5, Interesting)
In fact, all replies to this story should be immediately compared to the comments of Google's purchase. It'll be interesting to see the people that backed Microsoft's position that Google did something evil now commenting on this news.
And people say there's no Microsoft-cult.. Pftt.
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Good move for Google, they paid half the price for a better known entity.
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I've heard of Doubleclick and they're blocked in my router.
I just wonder what patents that Aquantive has that aren't in use that could be used to compete with Doubleclick.
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If Microsoft wanted to use Aquantive's patents against Google the last thing that it would do is buy the company. Microsoft almost certainly infringes on some patents that Google owns, especially if you throw in Windows and the rest of Microsoft's software. The Holy Grail of patent litigation is to produce a patent that is being infringed by Windows as the potential payoff can be enormous. If Aquantive sues Google then the possible damages from a counter suit are much lower than the possible damages from a counter suit against Microsoft. If this was about patent litigation then Microsoft would announce a "partnership" (or maybe it wouldn't even do that) and Aquantive would sue Google.
Microsoft is not going to sue any organization that has software patents over patent infringement as Microsoft almost certainly has more to lose than any other player.
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Nothing to see here, move along...
Re:Compare all replies to replies from Google deal (Score:5, Interesting)
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Maybe these guys use Windows for all their servers. Google probably use some variant of open source, as do Doubleclick. MS can't acknowledge that a decent business can operate using FOSS so they can't buy a company that does well using open source as their SoE - that would discredit the whole FUD about FOSS.
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Microsoft Cult (Score:1, Flamebait)
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how innovative (Score:5, Funny)
research $ (Score:2)
Do you suppose that the research they did to determine to buy this company is counted in the billions and billions of money that they put into "research" every year?
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And google got DoubleClick for "just" 3.1B (Score:5, Insightful)
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You have to wonder how much longer The Chair Thrower is going to have a job
Loose Lips (Score:2)
Shhh! Just let him keep buying little-known companies for $6B a pop. Heck, I've got one for him...
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Me, too. Although I'd charge him an extra $4B for his general obnoxiousness, sweaty dancing, and extreme blowhardedness.
crazy (Score:5, Interesting)
$1/per pair of eyeballs on the planet.
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Lemmings.... (Score:2, Funny)
You must be new here (Score:3, Insightful)
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Re:I think it's pretty simple... (Score:2)
Microsoft to Google: "My pee pee is bigger than your pee pee."
amazing (Score:1, Interesting)
Now I understand what they were doing with your $ (Score:1)
What are Aquantive's domains? (Score:3, Interesting)
What domains do Acquantive ads come from? I need to update certain tables. Thanks.
Re:What are Aquantive's domains? (Score:4, Insightful)
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* Products will not run in Microsoft browsers. Use FireFox - you know, the browser that doesn't suck and rape your system every time you visit a web page.
We just heard about them (Score:2)
It's not that - nobody's every heard about these guys - that is until Microsoft ponied up <drevil>six billion dollars</drevil> for them.
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a bid to unseat flash? (Score:5, Interesting)
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In related news, has Miguel de Icaza tried to buy a bankrupt ad agency for $6 yet?
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I pray every day to the highest Gods of the Internet that the most holy and blessed developers of Flashblock will also bestow unto us a Silverlight block, as soon as its impure code oozes onto the interwebs. (much as I actually do appreciate Flash getting much sorely needed competition).
Flashblock developers - friends of the Internet.
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Sure you can visit the Settings Manager [macromedia.com] page but that's no good if you want to set a machine (or domain) wide policy. For that I use the following in a batch file in the All Users Startup folder:
You can also stick it in the netlogon share and run it as your users' lo
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No, wait. They own it, they own Windows Update; it'll get pushed out when it's ready.
*Then* some pinhead will start making "IE optimized" sites again.
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In Other News . . . (Score:4, Funny)
Colour me confused.. (Score:5, Informative)
Microsoft is aquiring them for 6 billion? Sounds about as dumb-ass as Google with DoubleClick (what, 31x premium?).
aQuantive stock is now 64.75 *up 27.88*. I missed it.
As a Microsoft shareholder, I don't like this. What a waste of money! I mean, paying 3 billion would be high, but 6 billion?
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Well, I don't think you can really compare them. These deals are for cash not shares, are tiny relative to the overall businesses operated by Google and Microsoft, and in both cases the acquiring firms are large and very profitable.
The AOL takeover of Time Warner involved using ludicrously overpriced AOL shares to effectively buy Time Warner. The deal was only possible because of the .com bubble, and when the bubble b
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Not a bad jump.
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When I saw that aQuantive and its 2800 employees are located in Seattle, I knew why Gates paid the huge premium for the company.
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yuck (Score:2, Insightful)
and special offer notifications popping up during your screensaver
not to mention linking with some telesails.
so whenever you login and start to surf you will get a call
dam will have to pattent that before m$ does , dam prior art in public domain above
what was that deal they where on about for discounted versions for schools that the users
would be compelled to watch advert streams before they could use it
looks like that m
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You're a complete dick. You do realize that MS/MSN has had an advertising arm for several years?
Makes you wonder why they didn't do this in Vista, then.
Oh I know why, because this would be fucking stupid, and everyone, including MS, knows that.
Except for the FUDbots.
In other news... (Score:2)
..Microsoft announces that SSL-by-default is their web browser's solution to phishing.
Privoxy changed the page's contents? Sorry, can't display it, or at least you get a popup every time ("A man in the middle has altered this page, potentially adding malicious code that I desperately want to execute with full admin rights. Do you want to abort the load?")
Don't Panic...(or maybe Do Panic) (Score:5, Interesting)
IMHO is that since Google bought Doubleclick(Yuk) they have been lookin at getting slice of the Online Advertising Market.
However (Dons invertment managers hat) to pay a premium of 68% over yesterday's close for each shae is just plain crazy.
Ok, I know that there are billions of dollars in cash sitting in the Bank of Microsoft but really...
If I were a Microsoft shareholder (and thankfully, I'm not) I would be looking for some detailed explanations as to why the paid so much over the odds for this business. Its not as if they were in a bidding war (or were they?)
68% is just too heavy a premium to pay.
This has all the signs of panic.
Balmer wants to buy up an Ad company before Google buys them all. but 68%, Really. this is really bad economics and seems like we have returned to the Dot.Com Bubble days.
Google must be laughing their socks off.
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This especially includes their M&A activity.
Paying a premium of say 10% is usually as high as you can go before shareholders start asking awkward questions.
A premium of 68% is way beyond that level.
It is the sort of level that could get shareholders angry. If enough of them sufficiently angry they can force a company to hold an EGM.
It does not matter who the company is. One worth Billios or one worth a few Millions.
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MiniMSFT was NOT impressed either (Score:2)
Quoth Who da'Punk: [blogspot.com]
...and MSFTExtremeMakeover goes ballistic (Score:2)
It's Official: Ballmer has lost it: [blogspot.com]
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the 68% was the PREMIUM that Microsoft paid over the closing price of the share the previous day.
For example.
Closing price = $100.00
Microsoft Price = $100.00 + $68.00 = $168.00
Microsoft has bought all the shares paying (IMHO) way over the odds for them. This (again IMHO) something the shareholders should be very suspicious about.
Ok?
Dot Com Boom 2.0 (Score:4, Funny)
Digital marketing firm? (Score:2)
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Is this wise? (Score:2)
Not like buying detergent (Score:2)
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