Internet2 Deployment Reaches Major Milestone 93
An anonymous reader writes "Internet2 today announced that the first East to West Coast span on its new nationwide 100 gigabit per second network has been completed and is providing production IP and circuit services. This deployment marks another major milestone in bringing leading- edge networking resources to the research and education community in the United States."
Your Worst Possible Fear (Score:1, Interesting)
What's to stop someone like National American University or University of Phoenix from getting access to this and spamming the hell out of me? They already do it with snail mail
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The Map (Score:5, Informative)
Almost as interested as what is covered is what is not yet covered. Does anyone know how long they expect this to take to fully implement?
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Intangled Pair Message - Incoming (Score:2, Funny)
Message From the Future Using the Intangled Pair Interface
With InternetX deployed last August (2020), we can now surf the Internet Way Back Machine 4.0 by directly accessing web pages in the past. The only thing we have to over come is that we have to assign NATted TSC/IP addresses (also known as IPv32, 32 sets of 32bit strings) to address computers in the TSC (time space continuum). (Oh, I've already got my lawyers working in 2007 to cover patents on TSC/IP)
Your puny Internet2 was relegated to serve u
Re:The Map (Score:4, Insightful)
If by "fully implement" you mean "make it accessible to every Joe Somebody like the Internet 1 is", then I hope never. The original internet was intended for science and education, then AOL arrived and now it's filled with Viagra and Paris Hilton videos. Let's hope we learned from our mistakes and leave this Internet2 alone, out of commercial reach.
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And it will only be a matter of time... (Score:3, Funny)
Then, after that - pr0n, spam, hax0rs, skr1p7 k1dd13z, and all the rest.
After all, the first part of "Internet2" is "Internet".
Won't it be great? Getting all those worms delivered at breakneck speeds?
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One of these does not belong ...
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Fixed.
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http://web.mit.edu/admissions/ [mit.edu]
http://www.admissions.caltech.edu/ [caltech.edu]
http://www.stanford.edu/dept/uga/ [stanford.edu]
and the list goes on...
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When i was attending ASU, which has internet2 (supposedly even in the dorms), I needed(wanted) to download the latest version of knoppix, which is now on a DVD (cd versions are also available). When i tried to do it (even downloading from an I2 server), speeds were HORRIBLE...somewhere in the 32kbps range.
Come to find out that while, yes, you ARE transmitting data across I2, they throttle it to prevent nightmares like the bi
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Dunno about you, but I was around on the Internet1 before the 'commercial interests' took hold.
All those things you listed predated the commercial interests, 'cept maybe skr1p7 k1dd13z.
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IIRC, the rise of spam and commercial interests were pretty much concurrent. But yes, pr0n and and hax0rs were there way way way before the suits got involved.
There's probably a way of charting the rise of spam/commercial interests inversely against the IQ of the average Internet 1 user.
Sadly, however, having ruined Internet 1 for many of us, the commercially interested are already foaming at the mouth in
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Direct link to press release (Score:4, Informative)
Still on dial-up (Score:3, Insightful)
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It's being used to pirate movies by college students.
It's just a toy for the subsidized.
That money could be and SHOULD be spent on last mile connections for EVERYONE at an 'affordable' price!
By the way, I'm on dialup too.
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Internet2 is for research institutions only. Most of such institutions are universities. Some are not (such as CERN, or even Microsoft has a connection). Ordinary users will never have data go across Internet2.
Here's part of a traceroute to microsoft.com:
12 so-0-0-0.0.rtr.salt.net.internet2.edu (64.57.28.24) 79.663 ms 75.458 ms 75.504 ms
13 64.5
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so for those on the network, the internet2 network sort of works as if it were part of the regular internet backbone? does that mean p2p between two people from different universities on the network could go across internet2? hmm...
Yes, barring local policies restricting such traffic, all IP travelling between major US academic and research sites goes over I2 automatically, without the users ever needing to know it. Given that it typically costs a whole lot less to send traffic over I2 than over a comm
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Yes, that's the case. There used to be an Internet2-only Direct Connect network called I2Hub [wikipedia.org].
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Granted it's horribly overpriced for what it is, but it's an option and is linux-able.
Let's share those resources ! (Score:1)
'Cough' P2P ?
Great ! I need a bigger pipe for my porn and music shares !
(and no my pipe is plenty big as is.. pervs)
Typo in the headline... (Score:5, Funny)
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So it looks like several types of features are involved: network stuff (faster, better topology, etc.), "middleware" (authentication), and apps, specifically integrated voice, video, IM. How much will end up vaporware, or let's say feature-speak...?
Hybrid Optical Networking Initiative (HOPI)
Motivated by extreme applications that strain today's networks, the HOPI project investigates revolutionary network architectures that will serve as models for the next-generation of Internet2 networks.
End-to-End Performance Initiative (E2EPI)
By developing tools to embed performance and diagnostic technology within the network infrastructure, E2EPI is making it easier to create a more reliable, predictable and seamless network experience for all users, and encourage the adoption of next-generation network applications.
Observatory
To enable a better understanding of the inner-workings and use of a large-scale infrastructure by network engineers, researchers and users, the Observatory provides a unique and comprehensive real-time operational data associated with Internet2's nationwide high-performance network.
Middleware Initiative
The Middleware Initiative brings together leading IT architects from Internet2 member organizations to address critical issues in authentication and authorization in order to create practical and secure inter-institutional services.
Security
The Internet2 Security initiative supports members as they explore and implement network security in ways that ensure continued high-performance, innovation and support for advanced network applications.
SIP.edu
With an estimated 10 million Internet2-connected users, SIP.edu supports testing and encourages the adoption of advanced communications applications that integrate voice, video, and instant messaging through presence services and open standards.
Internet2 Technology Evaluation Centers (ITEC)
ITECs are national centers that provide leadership and support for the Internet2 community in specific areas of technology and networking, such as optical technologies, network performance, Voice over IP (VoIP), and video conferencing.
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I transferred some of the first files over this network. It was Monte Carlo physics data produced for the CMS project. It took us about 20 minutes to go from 0 to 6.5 Gbps (we have a 10Gbps link to I2).
P2P is not a big application on I2. Simply put, clients like Bittorrent don't scale well for individual transfers and there aren't enough transfers to really aggregate to an impressive number.
I expect at least 100 Mbps per file using our transfer tools, then transfer many files at once.
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Where do we stand? (Score:4, Interesting)
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-total point to point bandwidth available?
-typical consumer access speed?
-max single speed transfer ever done?
-total peering overlap to provide for multiple routing paths?
The US is ahead of 3 of those 4. If you are a large company, university, etc then being in the us is the best place to be. If you're a consumer...
Internet2?! (Score:3, Funny)
damned kids (Score:5, Funny)
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The Internet2 outside of the US (Score:2, Interesting)
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So, how will this be segregated? (Score:3, Interesting)
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Yes to all. Don't expect I2 access if you're out of college (and not working at a major telecom company or research lab).
It's no biggie, nobody could really view that much pr0n anyways. :) But concerning the previous article posted here about the data generated from those super-collider experiments, there are some technology demands that can outstrip even pr0n... at least until we come up with the full VR simulations that involves a thousand times the data of an HD video.
The first modem I ever saw was a 300 baud and the first one I ever owned was a 2400 baud that cost hundreds of dollars. The pace of technology advancement b
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Most popular tech support question , 2.0 (Score:2, Funny)
Coast to Coast... (Score:1)
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(Admit it....you always wondered what the "S" stood for in his name.)
(For the intensely dense, "single-mode" is a descriptor for a type of optical fiber)
Misused term (Score:3, Informative)
Only 100 gigabit? (Score:2)
Abilene at VT (Score:1)
I'm curious if it is automatic for some uses, like distros from other institutes. I downloaded Knoppix in a short length of time from Duke while in my dorm room, averaging speeds between 800-1500KB/s.
Anyone know how easy/har
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Double? (Score:2, Funny)
Wow, much faster pr0n and boobies. (Score:1)