'I Was a Hacker for the MPAA' 385
Wired has up an article with a man named Robert Anderson, who was recruited by the MPAA in 2005 to inform on people in the BitTorrent community. In a tell-all interview with the site, Anderson explains how the powerful media organization encouraged him to obtain the information they were looking for: "According to Anderson, the MPAA told him: 'We would need somebody like you. We would give you a nice paying job, a house, a car, anything you needed.... if you save Hollywood for us you can become rich and powerful.' In 2005, the MPAA paid Anderson $15,000 for inside information about TorrentSpy -- information at the heart of a copyright-infringement lawsuit brought by the MPAA against TorrentSpy of Los Angeles. The material is also the subject of a wiretapping countersuit against the MPAA brought by TorrentSpy's founder, Justin Bunnell, who alleges the information was obtained illegally."
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Fixed it for you!
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Look, Wired can be forgiven, since they're clueless nerd wannabes*, but damn it man, this is slashdot. Look at the masthead. Then get your wannabe ass off my lawn and no, you can't have your balls back.
When I took transistor radios and turned them into guitar fuzzboxes as a teenager, that was hacking. When Delbert McGeekly quickly writes a few lines of code to get the server running again, that's hacking.
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SHUT UP.
You're fighting a battle which was stupid even before it was lost, 10 years ago. To the general population, when Joey Pimpleface finds some code on the internet that lets him sniff out some doofus's password, that is hacking. That makes it the case, whether you like it or not. You're never, ever going to realign the definition of the term, not even if you did more than post on slashdot about it (which you won't). Do what you do with every other word in the damn language, and use it the same way everyone else does. Suddenly, magically, you'll find you can communicate with other lifeforms! Imagine that!
By the way, You're so naive I almost hate to burst your bubble on that one, but no. Leaving aside your high-school perception of the world, the thing that set nerds and geeks apart is lack of social skills. I can assure you "jocks and cheerleaders", as you so eloquently put it, do not try to imitate an inability to socialize. Geeks and nerds are respected once they learn how to socialize, to become like the "jocks and cheerleaders" in that sense.
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Yes and no. Within the slashdot community, the word hacker has a different meaning. It is stupid to expect that meaning to apply outside slashdot, but inside one expects the word "hacker" not to get thrown around so much. Much like using "weight" at a physicists convention means something different (and more accurate) than in the locker room at your gym.
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Much like using "weight" at a physicists convention means something different (and more accurate) than in the locker room at your gym.
Physicists are just as sloppy, terminologically, as anyone else. I've heard mass referred to as "weight" in plenty of informal discussions. It is not a problem because the context is always clear. Hell, we still have the term "atomic weight" which has been wrong for over 100 years, and yet continues to be used.
In a publication, the correct terms are always used. And of
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So I take it you call your monitor your "computer", your tower your "CPU", and the whole thing your "hard drive"? That's what the
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So I take it you call your monitor your "computer", your tower your "CPU", and the whole thing your "hard drive"? That's what the general population does, so you should too.
Silly generalizations on hundreds of millions of people do not make an argument.
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Actually, multiple personality disorder is a form of schizophrenia. So, people who say that those with multiple personality disorder have schizophrenia, they're not wrong, just inexact.
I started hacking and cracking in 1983, way before it was "cool". At the time, according to me and my friends who were much better hackers and crackers than I was (including one Pentagon computer hacker who eventually got caught), cracking is a subform of hacking.
Language evolves and meanings change. Happens every year with lots of words. During the transition, it creates confusion, but then the new meaning takes over and settles in and communication continues. take "hacking", for example. It used to just mean "beating something with a sharp object"...
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"Roses are Red,
Violets are Blue,
I'm schizophrenic,
And so am I..."
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No it wasn't. There was nothing worse than to call yourself that. Please stop posing. You weren't around back when it was in use, and your quick read of TNHD hasn't given you the depth of context that you seem to believe you have. You weren't around back then, and you should stop pretending that you were. It's dishonest.
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"Hacking" or "to hack" has many different meanings already. (The term was not invented by those 'hackers', and will not be the sole property of said hackers.
Google and Xerox don't like it when their name is used as a verb, but it still happens. If you don't believe me, then google it.)
Merriam Webster defines "hack [m-w.com]" as follows:
Yes, the term is being muddied by the media, but language is always in flux, meanings change. New words appear. Perhaps it's time to give the 'white hat' hackers a new term? Or start using the term 'white hat' more.
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(ii) the offense was committed in furtherance of any criminal or tortious act in violation of the Constitution or laws of the United States or of any State Hello, Mr. Federal Prosecutor? Where are you?
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Wow. Dark Side ahoy! (Score:5, Funny)
"...and we will rule the Galaxy together!"
"Noooooooooooo!"
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They promised to make him rich and powerful, but then altered the deal, and Robert Anderson couldn't pray that they wouldn't alter it any further, having already sold out... for sweeties.
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I'm glad that I no longer consume mass media. (Score:5, Interesting)
Instead of buying mainstream CDs, I go listen to local bands play at a variety of pubs and other venues, and buy directly from them if I like what I hear. The local theater productions are often far better than the latest Bruce Willis shitflick out of Hollywood. Instead of watching TV, I go biking, rockclimbing, and I also play recreational badminton.
So I'm glad to say that my funding of this sort of bullshit has been minimal, if at all. I urge more people to take a path similar to the one that I've chosen. You'll be far better off, both in terms of the entertainment you do experience, the money you save, and the fact that you're not funding the mainstream media in any way.
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You no longer consume mass media? (Score:5, Insightful)
Riiight!
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Here's a good article [pcmag.com] about it by
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(1) No, I don't have to retract the parent post;
(2) I have a quick-heat soldering iron with which to stab out my eyes.
Later!
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Yet you're on the Internet?
Riiight!
Mainstream [wikipedia.org] is, generally, the common current of thought of the majority.
So, if AC just reads /. as opposed to, say, Digg he/she does not consume mass media. Objection overruled.
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In unrelated news, NASA has hired New Jersey laundrymat owner Marco Delgrepio to create a permanent lunar colony. For now, they're only offering him $15,000, but if he just beats some invading space aliens by uploading a virus from his apple powerbook, he'll get a car. It's a really nice car.
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Not to mention the potential out-of-court payoffs to be had if the MPAA can bring up charges. 15K is a good investment if they can turn it around.
"Didn't know"? Right. (Score:5, Insightful)
Essentially, the MPAA said "we will give you anything if you rat these people out and obtain evidence for us", yet "didn't know" he was doing it illegally? Please, just shows how desperate they can be and what kind of morale these people have.
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You find this suprising?
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Actually, the situation is just a bit too cloying for my tastes.
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The reason you want criminals to get away, is because you don't want to be treated the same way. These rules apply whether you are an angry spouse, big company or the police.
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You've never seen German, have you? (Score:4, Insightful)
So sure, they probably have a word for "Catch the thief, he has my knife in his back!" as well
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Wow! German must be an amazing language if that can be translated into a single word!!
German: proudly turning sentences into words and words into sentences.
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OTOH this anderson better have proof for what he's saying.
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Please, RTFA.
Anderson approached them, saying pretty much, "I can get you this info, how much is it worth to you?"
Then, when they met, he told them that he had "an informant" who had access to the info. Two degrees of separation? There's plausible deniability righ
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"Get this project finished to everyones satisfaction and I don't care how you do it"
I'd be a bit surprised if they came back to me the next day and said
"Hey boss, that project thing. It's all fixed up real nice now. Real nice"
And it turned out they'd done it by killing all the people who were waiting for it.
I think most rational people when told to use whatever means necessary take it for granted this means whatever means available within the law. Particulary if you've signed a contract specifically saying that.
This Anderson bloke is basically an idiot, the MPAA paid him peanuts, probably knew full well he was going to break the law to get them the information they wanted but let him go ahead with it anyway having insulated themselves as much as possible from any actions he sees fit to take upon himself.
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From Piratebay Top Torrent Movies ...
I.Now.Pronounce.You.Chuck.And.Larry[2007]DvDrip[Eng]-aXXo SE 5257 LE 11556
MPAA Lose: Total: (5257 + 11556)* $19.99dlls = $336,091.87dlls
Pirates.Of.The.Caribbean-At.World's.End[2007]DvDrip[Eng]-aXXo 10-17 19:11 Decargar 900.29 MiB 5182 7394
1/2 Million Dollars just in 2 movies, so yes!, they have to do something.MPAA Lose: Total: (5182 + 7394) * 19.99dlls = $251,394.24dlls
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MPAA Lose: Total: (5182 + 7394) * 19.99dlls = $251,394.24dlls/qhote>
Who would have thought dynamic libraries were so popular on p2p networks. I wonder what people do with them.
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So, let's say about $100 USD per film and call it even.
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And if those people aren't actually going to buy the movie:
I.Now.Pronounce.You.Chuck.And.Larry[2007]DvDrip[Eng]-aXXo SE 5257 LE 11556
MPAA Lose: Total: (5257 + 11556)* $0 = $0
Pirates.Of.The.Caribbean-At.World's.End[2007]DvDrip[Eng]-aXXo 10-17 19:11 Decargar 900.29 MiB 5182 7394
Or, if the people who download it will buy it on DVD or go to see it at the cinema, then there is no correlation between those who download and lost revenue. None at all.MPAA Lose: Total: (5182 + 7394) * $0 = $0
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Just because the jackasses in the entertainment industry are a bunch of slime maggots does not mean that you have the right to use whatever means you can find to circumvent their business model - the bottom line is
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Parent argued that the amounts mentioned were not representative for the actual loss. You argue that the parent is lobotomized and resort to countless bad analogies to make the point that parent is stealing the propoerty of the entertainment industry (I won't go into the stealing vs. copying argument here).
Please stick to the point in future posts.
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Promises, promises (Score:5, Funny)
Where does Anderson live, Lesotho?
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I'm sorry, but this smacks of FUD from the MPAA/RIAA bullshit, brain-storm meeting! How can we scare off casual "pirates"? I know, says bow-tied twat number 1, lets make up shit about professional hackers gathering your details and bringing down the fabric of society, or at least one of the 75 popular torrent sites.
The article misspoke . . . (Score:5, Funny)
Jesus, please read the article before writing summaries!
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Quotes from his diary... (Score:5, Funny)
Number Two: [clears throat] Sir, strictly speaking, fifteen hundred dollars will not go very far these days. My butler alone makes over fifteen hundred dollars a week.
Anderson: Really? Okay then... we hold the RIAA ransom for 15... THOUSAND dollars!
MAFIAA hacker? (Score:4, Funny)
Wait, what's that? He's not going to jail? *throws down hat, stomps on it* What the hell is this country coming to?
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That is a really fucking weak-sauce redefinition of rich and powerful. $15k? Christ. I wouldn't wipe my ass with $15k.
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I would've expected people to want more money, but I guess it makes sense. There's always somebody who is sufficiently selfish to fuck everybody else over for a comically small sum of money.
If he had hacked Microsoft (Score:4, Insightful)
I guess the motto here at slashdot is "you must respect people's rights, unless we don't like them."
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If this person had hacked Microsoft and posted the Windows source code online you would all be heralding him as a true freedom fighter. However because he hacked someone you like you say what he did was wrong.
Not really. There is nothing valuable in the Windows Source Code./P>
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Hollywood uses that method a lot.
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outside of hollywood movies, nobody talks like this. this is all the ramblings of some deranged kid.
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Funny article! Rich + powerful = $15K (Score:3, Funny)
"Anything you want" vs $15,000 (Score:3, Funny)
I'm sure his $15million check was cut due to various fees. His final cut was $15,000.
Reporting on people for MPAA? (Score:3, Funny)
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Selling your soul is one thing, but selling it cheap is unconscionable.
Remember, though, when it comes to the buying and selling of souls: You get what you pay for.
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He probably asked for $10 million and they probably agreed. After deduxcting various ancilliary expenses, office rental, studio time, roadies, electrical power factor multiplier, candy bars, in office Jolt delivery, the deposit on his office key, and various other miscellaneous Usual & Customary Fees, and taxes, his check was about $15k.
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Maybe he signed the same contract most as most RIAA artists (there doesn't seem to be much between RIAA and MPAA).
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So sorry that some people feel there needs to be some balance in copyright and patent laws. That it shouldn't be cranked up to the max where we have a SWAT team busting down people doors, while at the same time it should not be dropped to zero protection where anyone with the ability to perform duplication (anyone with a computer) could start copying creative works willy nilly.
(My comments are not meant to imply that Hol
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Interesting point of view.
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Mr. Coward, please tell me why I can't:
a) watch a DVD that I purchased legally on my television via the TV-Out port on my video card, using my computer's DVD drive to read this legal DVD? Macrovision prevents that. There are ways around it, but they are illegal due to the DMCA.
b) watch a DVD that I purchased legally in linux, because apparently Hollywood hasn't bothered to write an official DVD-decoder for that operating system, yet they maintain that if anyone else does it, it's a DMCA violation?
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Have you tried it with GeeXbox?
http://geexbox.org/en/index.html [geexbox.org]
They don't mention it is illegal in some countries in the about page.
On my video card, it does not enable Macrovision as that would require a royalty.
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DVD's don't have Macrovision. They have a Macrovision flag. A legal player adds Macrovision to the player output. Rippers never bothered with the flag and don't have a Macrovision license to use the encoder.
If you paid extra for a ripper that "Removes Macrovision" you got ripped off. You would have to pay extra for a ripper that adds Macrovision.
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Apparently, you've never had any dealings with talent scouts or record label A&R reps. They routinely promise the world to their prospects, but end up bending them over with no lube. This is entertainment industry SOP.
Cheers!
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