Ubuntu 8.04 Released 678
Nate2 writes "The Hardy Heron has taken flight: it's the second LTS (Long Term Support) release of the world's most popular distro. New features include the Wubi Windows installer and Firefox 3 beta 5. Grab a copy here, and check out Linux Format's overview of the release."
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ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/hardy/ [iu.edu]
http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/hardy/ [iu.edu]
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ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [iu.edu] i386
ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [iu.edu] AMD64
ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/8.04/kubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [iu.edu] Kubuntu x86
ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/8.04/kubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [iu.edu] Kubuntu AMD64
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yes, you just need to set the CD up as a repository in the atp sources list. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Adding_a_CD-ROM_or_DVD_repository [ubuntuguide.org]
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Slashdot isn't really a place to get "help" unless you have a fireproof suit that needs testing while you are wearing it.
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you post on Slashdot and run a server, so I assume you are interested in computers and capable of reading docs
It's a hell of an extrapolation to assume that because I read slashdot and am interested in computers, that I would have the slightest idea where to look for the release notes, no matter how obvious that may seem to you.
This is the, I dunno, 5th Ubuntu release I witness, and time after time people don't do the logical thing. I have spent countless hours on the mailing list to help them out, when all they would have needed to do is: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+8.04+release [google.com] or, god beware, go to http://www.ubuntu.com/ [ubuntu.com] and follow the release announcement. I was a newbie too, but I tried to do my homework before asking other people for help. It's called courtesy.
I spend time helping folks on mailing lists too, but rather than berating them for not reading the docs, I just give them the URL they need. Sometimes folks just have a hard time finding what they're looking for and there's no need to bite their heads off.
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Yeah, except that the copyright holder, (Canonical LTD) is freely distributing their copyrighted works via torrents because it saves them money on bandwidth.
The software they're releasing is being released as free and open source. The license strictly affords anyone the right to redistribute the software in any means. This includes torrents. And if I'm not mistaken I believe you also have the right to burn the ISO to a CDROM and charge money for that CDROM.
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legality, legality... (Score:4, Insightful)
Is...was....err....was that a joke?
That could be either a joke or someone who is just underinformed. Being as torrents get the most attention (in the mainstream, at least) for illegal traffic, it shouldn't surprise anyone to encounter people who actually believe that all torrent traffic is illegal.
And of course, there are copyrights involved with Ubuntu Linux. However most of them are more than a little bit more permissive than those on "Enter Sandman".
Re:Started the download 20 minutes ago (Score:5, Informative)
Look at the download page: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php [kubuntu.org]
See the link to BitTorrent? Torrents are a sanctioned and encouraged method of download.
Click the link and read. Educate yourself, Jackson.
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Anonymous Karmawhoring! (Score:5, Informative)
* http://www.ubuntu.com.nyud.net/getubuntu/downloadmirrors [nyud.net]
* http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntu.com%2Fgetubuntu%2Fdownloadmirrors [google.com]
Torrent for 8.04 desktop version i386 ISO:
* http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
* http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/4153415/Ubuntu_8.04_Hardy_Heron_-_Desktop_i386.4153415.TPB.torrent [thepiratebay.org]
(Piratebay mirror because official tracker is unstable)
Direct links to 8.04 desktop version i386 ISOs:
* http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso [ubuntu.com]
* http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso [uwaterloo.ca]
* http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso [neu.edu]
* http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso [rit.edu]
* http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso [mit.edu]
* http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso [osuosl.org]
* http://banner.uits.indiana.edu/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso [indiana.edu]
* http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso [anl.gov]
Re:Anonymous Karmawhoring! (Score:5, Funny)
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No, Hairy Hadron. (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:No, Hairy Hadron. (Score:5, Funny)
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You wear the patchouli. Some women go "Ewh, gross!". Some like it.
The ones that like it will still have sex with you when you just came off a marathon coding session and haven't had a shower in a while.
Those are the ones you want to go out with.
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Someone gave me a tube of hemp-based, patchouli-scented skin lotion once. Thanks. Not only do I have still dry skin, but now I smell like a freakin' hippie from 20 yards away. I couldn't even walk into a coffee shop without someone inviting me to recite poetry.
Re:No, Hairy Hadron. (Score:4, Funny)
Whats that sound I hear? (Score:5, Funny)
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Comcast filters...engage.
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Kubuntu (Score:5, Informative)
There are some of us who don't (or kan't) run Gnome...
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Kant uses BitTorrent because he asserts that one should download such that the protocol for one's download may scale to serve all downloaders simultaneously.
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be adived that if you change the session type this way, your profile's scripts (i.e.
the workaround is to create a file in your $HOME directory called
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I go back and forth every few months personally. I like the simplicity of Gnome, they make the features I want most easily available to me.
But then I'll find some corner case which I simply can't do with Gnome (eg Gnome
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Sorry, the stage was set with all the Hairy Hardon references
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All i can tell you is that kde sucks big hairy mokey balls ina networked (read Xwindow) envorinment. this is why i prefer gtk apps (read gnome).
my experience doesn't include kde 4. but as far as i can tell kde makes a nice personal computer desktop but remote x really sucks with all the animations turned on by default (even for remote sessions
when i discovered gnome 2 and discovered that remote X doen't have to suck on remote sessions (windows) i dropped kde.
ok KD
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Firefox 3 Beta 5? Really? (Score:5, Interesting)
(Note that I don't use Ubuntu or plan to use it any time in the very near future, so I really have no idea how easy it'd be to swap things out.)
Re:Firefox 3 Beta 5? Really? (Score:5, Informative)
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That, and I think FF3b5 is already more stable than FF2 is, aside from the numerous performance and footprint improvements.
There's the issue with extensions, yes. But there are few extensions at this point that doesn't have a FF3 compatible version, even if in beta. In my case, the ones that doesn't, I was able to replace with another extension that does the same thing, or better. In my case:
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Release Notes [ubuntu.com].
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I'm not trolling here, I'm running Hardy myself, but for a supposedly 'hardy' long term support release it's still pretty buggy for me. Sound in Flash stopped working yesterday (for plenty of other people too by the look of the bug on launchpad), I have to re-enter my WPA password every time I boot, and font hinting isn't working for gnome-terminal and KDE based apps.
Hohum...
Re:Firefox 3 Beta 5? Really? (Score:5, Insightful)
This would be why I usually wait a month or so before I upgrade to the newest version of Ubuntu. I expect open-source stuff to have bugs but they fix most of them; it just takes little time. For now I'm hanging on to Gutsy until the rush dies down.
As for the WPA password...did you check the Keyring settings? Chances are that a config file was modified, switching the default save setting...if I had to guess.
Re:Firefox 3 Beta 5? Really? (Score:4, Informative)
Thanks for the suggestion though.
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Sure that's why we had 6.06. Oh. Wait!
They got ff3b5 in because it's good enough. I have been using it for a couple weeks and I can vouch for it. As for unusable parts, they did not include the KDE4 environment because it is, as of right now, very shaky.
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some people would consider that to be a bonus...
Re:Firefox 3 Beta 5? Really? (Score:5, Informative)
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Now I'm not knocking KDE, 4.0 was always intended to be a stable release of the LIBRARIES, not the apps. But that means it's still not ready for end-users yet.
Presumably Firefox is in better shape than this.
I can't understand Firefox3 beta5 (Score:2, Insightful)
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They could really do with a bit more flexibility on their launch dates though.
Re:I can't understand Firefox3 beta5 (Score:5, Informative)
If you need completely stable software you should use another distro (Debian comes to mind) or wait a month or two.
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The merits of this can be argued by better geeks than I
Just my 2c, I like (fairly) fixed release points, the question is rather how bleeding edge you accept submissions to be. Before Ubuntu I used Debian, and found it fairly frustrating because certain packages would hold back releases so long that other packages would be replaced which again generated new blocking bugs etc. It's much better to ship what's release-ready now even if it's 3 months old than always wait for that package that's "almost" ready. Ubuntu is a little trigger-happy on including the bleed
Aumix (Score:2, Flamebait)
Torrent-only mirror (Score:5, Informative)
ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/ [bu.edu]
Contains the alternate, desktop, and server torrents for both i386 and amd64.
Hope this helps.
Great release unfortunately no Abiword 2.6 (Score:2, Interesting)
I am very happy that there has been another LTS release (and on my birthday)! I've been running the beta and it has been very stable other than than the firefox alpha (which seems to work fine on my debian lenny box).
I am dissapointed that abiword 2.6 didn't make the cut, though. It is a great release, however the timing of things didn't work out. You can get some context on what happened at one of the developer's blog [livejournal.com] and the bug report [launchpad.net]. Seems there was a little tension involved. Also, here are the relea [abiword.com]
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Fast Mirror (2 gbps net connection) (Score:3, Informative)
Please, always check MD5SUMS
Dealing with various issues during upgrade (Score:2, Informative)
My video card didn't work, sound didn't work, and, apparently, I use stale software with has been deprecated.
Either way, here's a review of my adventures:
http://thomer.com/howtos/hardy_heron.html [thomer.com]
Here's a summary of the woes described on that web page:
1) to get nvidia to work for a GeForce 8600 GTS (and in my case TwinView, for two displays), you need to download a beta driver straight from nvidia,
2) to get sound to work you need to run a
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For 8.10, we're considering a GUI (if not automated) method to deal with it.
You can also get it shipped (Score:5, Interesting)
I ask for 25 discs at a time, put a pile of them on my desk at work, and they're gone in a week. Here, have a Linux, it's free.
Re:You can also get it shipped (Score:5, Insightful)
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Make out it's a time limited free offer - and that it's usually £129!
I Want My First Personal Linux Machine (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:I Want My First Personal Linux Machine (Score:4, Informative)
NTFS read/write access has stable for a long time. No need for FAT32.
You don't need an external harddisk or usb-stick. Ubuntu won't disturb Windows.
Just download, burn and boot the live cd, then click the install icon. Ubuntu will guide you smoothly into making some space and dual-booting.
Don't Panic
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If you choose to install ubuntu on another drive and dual boot your ubuntu install should be perfectly capable at reading your NTFS partitions (helped a friend back up his stufs from a borked XP install just last weekend, worked great), I'm not sure about writing to NTFS partitions though, but it m
Re:I Want My First Personal Linux Machine (Score:5, Informative)
To prepare, use partition manager in windows to free up some space on one of your drives, then install linux in the free space. As above GRUB will detect windows partition seamlessly.
If you ever want to revert to windows bootloader, just boot off the XP disk, go into recovery console and type a command which I can't remember but googling will reveal it very quickly (its something like fixmbr).
NTFS is fine with a driver called ntfs-3g, may not be out of the box but it is usually easily obtainable via an update. In Ubuntu it will be a one-line command to install, same as installing anything (you will love this about linux) as long as you have an internet connection. There will be a general 'install X package' commmand, from memory in ubuntu its 'sudo apt-get XXX'.
However this will only install the driver, you will probably have to manually mount the windows partition via either the mount command or editing your fstab which is the file linux uses to determine what file systems to mount.
Personally if its ur first go I would install linux on a spare box to have a tinker first. I went down this path for a year before I was game enough to muck with my 'production' desktop.
The critical thing is to have another working computer with the internet available so you can look up instructions on the fly whilst you're in linux in case you can't get something to work in linux that also kills your web browsing. Once you have google at your disposal, your issues (barring bad-luck hardware incompatibilities) are all solvable and someone out there will have solved it already and posted a solution for you, often with cut-and-paste commands to follow.
Have fun, and don't get discouraged - remember it took you however many years to learn what you know about windows, and for the first few weeks it will feel like learning how to walk again. Remember: most of what you know about PCs is actually what you know about WINDOWS, so don't be surprised when things are done differently in linux (on the upside it generally makes perfect sense). But in the long run it will pay off. The great thing is that in linux everything is controlled via human readable text files, no registry hunting required, even if you don't know anything about X you can tell a lot from the config files and tonnes of issues can be solved by a simple and obvious parameter change.
Disclaimer: above is general linux advice from a Fedora user, I do not use ubuntu so your mileage may vary.
Curious about Ubuntu (Score:3, Informative)
And I am really not asking to be flamed here, but can someone tell me why I might want to move from Windows to Ubuntu? Either for home (World of Warcraft has to run on it) or from work?
(Puts on asbestos boxers)
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- It's free.
- I can reinstall it, move it new hardware, run it on multiple boxes without having to get on the phone and beg someone for an additional license.
- Most of the applications I use daily come with the base install of Ubuntu (office apps, web browser, IM client, etc).
- When they don't, I can easily download and install full-scale robust applications safely from the internet in seconds.
- updating to the latest versions of software after reinstalling from disc can be done in
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The main reason why I think people should give Linux (esp. Ubuntu or Fedora) a try is that once you get used to doing things the "Linux way" you start to realize how much it sucked to be using Windows. It's hard to quantify...I've been using Linux on my work and home desktops since 2001, and using Windows now feels clunky, clumsy, and irritating. Maybe a lot of it has to do with how you train your brain to work around all the horrible quirky behavior of Windows, and once you're away from it awhile you notic
Features (Score:3, Informative)
So from the review there are several new features here that might be of use:
So it sounds like a couple of useful new features and probably more the review did not cover. opefully I'll give it a test run tonight.
I upgraded (Score:4, Informative)
I like the new compiz-fusion plugins it includes.
Includes 3d windows for the cube (Where the windows stick off of the walls), this new "Shelf" plugin, that makes it able to shrink the size of windows to a thumbnail where you can dock them to the side of your desktop or wherever. They also have an "Error notification" plugin which is neat- Gives you an alert whenever any program has an error, and you can specify how serious an error has to be before it notifies you. The notification is just a little popup on your notification area.
In the new Gnome, I really really like the new VNC client. It has a "bookmark" section to the side, and it has tabs. Tabs for VNC! I love it. The other really useful thing it has is a "VNC scanner", which scans computers on the domain for VNC ports to connect to, and gives you a nice list. Besides that, there isn't really much else great about the new Gnome- They try to keep things "simple" (A.K.A., not much customization to be done.)
I've had a couple problems so far with Ubuntu 8.04, though. The first noticeable problem was that only one window on my desktop had a border. I.E, if I switched from one window to another, the window I switched to would lose it's border and title bar, and the new window would get borders and a title bar. I fixed this by installing Xgl, apparently I didn't have it.
The other issue is these odd black dots.. They consist of maybe four pixels making a block. There's about 10 of them in a row on my screen, even when I do the cube and other things, they stay on top of everything. Even in my log in window. I have no idea what's causing it.
And, finally, my sound isn't working now. But I see a lot of people are having this problem.
Oh, and one more con- The "Unlock" button for network manager is really annoying. I'm not sure why it was needed, maybe someone can enlighten me?
New Icon (Score:5, Insightful)
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Magnet URL is for i386 iso is below (Score:4, Informative)
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:PKBGTUMADMQD7FXO7PLIZPGWQBLPRTEE
Very Impressed (Score:3, Informative)
I've been running Hardy right up from Alpha 2 until the RC. It's a quality release. Only issue I've had so far is that the sound on my laptop (Vostro 1700, uses Intel HDA) is almost impossible to hear unless the sound is up all the way. I've read a few things to try and get it fixed, but that's not too high priority right now.
The installation is clean, it did a fantastic job auto-detecting my 3D hardware and setting up Compiz on both laptop and desktop (Intel X3100 and GeForce FX5500 respectively), and it's easy enough for grandma to use.
Kudos to the Ubuntu team.
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Has anyone tried a dist-upgrade? (Score:3, Interesting)
Tip for upgrading unusual X setups (Score:3, Informative)
IS there a configuration... (Score:3, Interesting)
It locks up my laptop solid..... (Score:3, Informative)
I have put 7.10 back on my laptop and I will not be updating to 8.04 until the lock up bug is reported as being fixed.
Of course, it is working just fine on a lot of other hardware... So, do your self a favor and burn a live CD and test it for a few hours before you do the final upgrade and do a very careful and complete back up before you upgrade.
This is the first time I have had *any* problems with stability of an Ubuntu release and I have been using it for several years now and I have tested a lot of alpha and beta releases. I hope this is the last time I have any trouble with an Ubuntu release.
Stonewolf
Ubuntu Studio (Score:3, Interesting)
Ubuntu Studio is "a multimedia creation flavor of Ubuntu." It includes applications for audio and video creation and for graphic work. It also has the Linux kernel optimized for low latency.
http://ubuntustudio.org/ [ubuntustudio.org]
Download (not accessible at the moment):
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/hardy/release [ubuntu.com]
Torrent mirror:
MD5: http://mma.users.ubuntustudio.org/Hardy-Torrents/MD5SUMS [ubuntustudio.org]
i386: http://mma.users.ubuntustudio.org/Hardy-Torrents/ubuntustudio-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntustudio.org]
AMD64: http://mma.users.ubuntustudio.org/Hardy-Torrents/ubuntustudio-8.04-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntustudio.org]
Wubi! (Score:3, Funny)
So now I can install Ubuntu with Wine?
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Its as if the whole world is at it! And I chose the most obscure download site! :) Guess everyone did that! :(
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TechWatch [reviewk.com]
Ok, got the whole file. Give you a tip. Go to the ones where people are sleeping - I chose .tw
enjoy. I am going to be busy now! :) Will send some screenshots soon!
TechWatch [reviewk.com]
Re:Slooow! (Score:5, Funny)
This is Linux, not Windows. Try to download from someplace where it's noon.
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It won't kill you, or cause you machine to become part of some botnet, just because you
upgraded a week or two later...
Re:Slashdotted. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Terrible. People should know about this! (Score:4, Insightful)
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