Google Chrome Tops Browser Speed Tests 371
ThinSkin writes "So many Web browsers, so little time. The folks at ExtremeTech have assembled the ultimate browser test to determine which Web browser is king. From speed tests to rendering tests, different browsers traded off wins, but Google Chrome came out on top."
Google Chrome (Score:5, Interesting)
But seriously, the speed difference is noticeable. When I'm on my mac, I miss using it. Plugins are hard to come by, but other than that, it's great. Quick as Firefox used to be.
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Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Funny)
What is this Facebook you speak of?
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its like myspace but for posh peeple I fink.
Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Funny)
> What is this Facebook you speak of?
I assume it's something used to express disbelief at a situation or fact, much like "facepalm". Except, well, accomplished with a book one happens to be holding at the moment.
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Re:Google Chrome (Score:4, Funny)
But then, I was trained in the...meditative...initialization fields of Emacs, so I am at peace with this.
You get it moving, you open a slew of tabs, and life is good.
Maybe FireFox and Emacs could one day merge...
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Use Safari -- it uses WebKit which is the "secret sauce" of Chrome. Seriously, if you want something really fast, use the latest WebKit nightlies, which hook into the Safari shell. They are actually quite a bit faster than Chrome at the moment, which obviously uses an older WebKit build than the WebKit tip-of-tree.
Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Informative)
The speed advantage of the nightly web kits is caused not by the fact that they're newer than chrome's rendering engine, but by the fact that they don't use Google's V8 javascript engine. Instead, they use the much faster (and also more correct) SquirrelFish Extreme engine.
Re:Google Chrome (Score:4, Insightful)
V8 (and Chrome in general) is the software form of a bet that the web is going to host larger and larger applications.
Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Funny)
Instead, they use the much faster (and also more correct) SquirrelFish Extreme engine.
That sounds like some sort of obscene initiation rite...
Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Funny)
"Guess I must be the only one here using Chrome."
Thats because its not released for Linux yet!
Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Funny)
"Guess I must be the only one here using Chrome."
Thats because its not released for Linux yet!
Busted!
Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Informative)
Actually, while not strictly "pure safari", the nightly builds of WebKit (safari's engine, including javascript engine), have a new, much faster Javascript engine called SquirrelFish Extreme, it not only beats V8 in speed (even on the heavily biased V8 benchmark), but also correctly renders Acid3, along with getting many less-corner-case parts of javascript correct.
Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome (Score:5, Insightful)
But speed isn't everything. The moment Chrome lets me use the 17 extensions I have to firefox and is still the fastest, I applaud. Currently I couldn't even consider having to lose all the extensions that help web development and surfing...
This thing should be clear to everyone by now.
Use Chrome if you want speed, Firefox if you want extensions, IE if you just want to annoy the hell out of all us Firefox fanboys, Opera if you want a ready package of speed and features, etc...
Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome (Score:4, Interesting)
Most people I've ever asked "exactly what Firefox extensions do you use", give me a list of features that are either in safari or easily available through plugins. Some examples:
FireBug -- already included in the web inspector, Safari 3's is FireBug's equal, while Safari 4 DP's is massively improved.
AdBlock -- SafariAdBlock, nuf said.
Full Screen Mode -- Glims
Search in address bar -- Glims
etc.
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I'm not a web developer (just occassionaly only) but to that list of FireFox plugins you can add YSlow, HTML Validator, and an inline PDF reader (not external requiring full download of PDF first as 25% of what I view is PDFs).
Also, I use Firefox on Mac OSX, FreeBSD, and Windows Vista and having a consistent browser is convenient -- though the PDF readers work better on some than others.
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It's built in, turn the Developer menu on in preferences, and select Develop -> Disable Javascript.
Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome (Score:5, Insightful)
And if you want 1 site to be able to use javascript, but you wouldn't allow another site to use it unless hell froze over ?
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Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome (Score:5, Funny)
And Safari's for people that don't want extensions or features. Right?
or if you're just tired of itunes asking you if you want to install safari
Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome (Score:5, Interesting)
I've grown so attached to some extensions I'll very soon stop even consider anything not having them.
How long till they start making browsers with a "firefox plugin compatible" feature?
17 extensions?? (Score:2)
I couldn't even name 17 , much less use them. Wtf do you need them for "web development" for? You don't seriously develop in a browser do you other than for testing purposes??
As for surfing - the only extension i have is flash and Ive yet to find a page I couldn't surf so why you need 17 is a mystery to me.
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You don't seriously develop in a browser do you other than for testing purposes??
You've obviously never used them...
Granted, I don't actually use 17, I probably don't even use 10, but the ones I use are pretty essential. Firebug is a large part of it -- it means I can see exactly which files are loading from where (and how long they're taking). It means I can see exactly what the DOM tree looks like, and which styles are being applied where, and from what CSS classes. It means I can then edit said CSS inline to see what it looks like -- no more guessing pixel values, I just use the arro
Spyware (Score:2)
Which ones were in the category of spyware? Because I can only think of one myself.
Safari? Safari what? (Score:5, Interesting)
You're using a non-release Chrome and yet I'm not seeing a nightly build of Safari referenced.
The Developer Preview of Safari 4.0 trounces Safari 3.1.x.
The Safari nighly builds trounce all over Safari 4.0 developer preview.
Re:Safari? Safari what? (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah, I use the Webkit nightly builds. Webkit runs circles around everything else, plus it renders the Acid 3 test 100%. Yet reviewers will review beta/alpha browsers and leave Webkit out.
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And what about Firefox 3.1 pre-beta 2, if including this browser.
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Btw, IE 8 beta 2 also seem to have way improved performance over IE 7, although that one will still not reach "interesting" levels in a test like this.
Interesting, but nothing really new (Score:5, Insightful)
Summary: IE is crap, Safari has some issues, Opera most compatible with Acid 3, Firefox is OK and Chrome is fast but not finished.
So, a stripped-down browser is fast. Wow.
In the real world, I'll be sticking with Firefox, with Ad blockers, Greasemnkey etc.
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Adblocking can be done through the HOSTS file, and there's a Chrome build with support for Greasemonkey scripts - look up Greasemetal.
I've been using Chrome as my main browser for a while now. It's perfectly usable, the UI is a minimalist's dream and it's really, really fast.
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I'd never heard of Greasemetal. Looks like he's making it compatible with GM scripts, too! Thanks!
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Adblocking can be done through the HOSTS file, ...
Adblocking can be done by cutting out rectangles of sticky backed paper and placing them on the screen as you read. I'd sooner use an install and forget it system - with an auto-updated adblock file I can't recall when I last had to take action to block ads. Yes one could write a script to update the HOSTS file from an online repo but one doesn't need to, the FF addon does it.
For those who believe this is content-view "stealing": Places I frequent I whitelist ads on - if however they use dynamic or misleadi
Re:Interesting, but nothing really new (Score:5, Insightful)
You are a leech on the rest of society
Because I use ad-blockers? How about people who use TIVO? I have no problem paying for stuff, and contribute to free projects, donate to Wikipedia etc. Just because I sometimes want a less-intrusive browsing experience does not make me a leech. And who gives a shit about karma anyway?
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Many would have you believe that. "If you're not looking at our ads you're stealing from us!" To which I say, bullshit. Just because you're advertising something doesn't mean you have the right to shove those ads down my throat. I reserve the right to not look at your ads if I don't want to.
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Commercial companies slowly highjack all good causes to the point that wee feel obligated to them
not good
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They don't give me the option and I don't feel obliged to go out of my way to present it to them?
It's not like the television broadcasters agreed to the exchange of time for ads. You're "paying" for adblock with blacklist updates and an install of one more piece of third-party software that could go wrong or even be an attack vector.
Also, saying "a later date" is misleading. You can start watching a half-hour program over 8 minutes later (allowing for credits and an invariant title sequence) and finish in
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Then why not contact extremetech and ask them how much your blocking the ads cost them and send them that amount? If you're willing to pay for an ad-less internet, why not actually pay for it?
If companies don't want people to block their ads, then they shouldn't use intrusive and annoying ads. I always block animated or "flashing" ads. There's one site in particular where damn near every ad is an animated GIF that flickers red and green or some other obnoxious combination. I suspect the site owners don'
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Just because I sometimes want a less-intrusive browsing experience does not make me a leech.
Actually it does. Just like in torrenting, if you seed one torrent forever but refuse to seed any other torrents you use, your leeching.
In torrenting, if your ratio goes above 1.0, that is because you support leechers.
In websurfing, not downloading ads you do not intend to view helps reduce the congestion of the tubes.
Besides, if ads weren't all-pervasive, people wouldn't want to block them.
I do not, in general, block Google ads. Though I could do it in a heartbeat, I have not removed them from Gmail. They do not bother me, they are not intrusive, and sometimes they are worth a laugh. OTOH, the ads in Yahoo! Mail, which I saw when I opene
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What are you thoughts on the future viability of a micropayment system? Particularly one that connects the user of a beloved site with its operator.
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Bloke, the internet was designed for communication... not for being bludgeoned to death!
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People who take the time to search out and install ad-blocking software are not interested in clicking on banner ads anyways. I can probably count on my right hand the number of times I've (purposely) clicked on ad in the 15 years I've been surfing the web. Anyone who is annoyed at the mere act of having to look at a banner ad is highly unlikely to click on one. Thus the marginal impact on ad revenue is probably low.
And, just like every discussion ever about torrenting, it doesn't make a damn bit of differe
Re:Interesting, but nothing really new (Score:5, Funny)
Luckily for you there are people like me who will share the burden you place on society.
What do you do? Look at extra ads? What a retard.
I use adblock+, everyone who's computer I service uses FF + adblock+. I am going to make sure tomorrow I convert at least 5 new people. Just to piss you off.
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Do you really believe that looking at adds create value for the society????
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It is a viable financing method for web content. Possibly the *only* one for most content, so yea, if you like web content (like Slashdot, say) it adds value to society.
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Oh STFU.
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Oh.
Will you watch my share of adverts for me, as well? That'd be super, thanks! *wanders off to do useful things*
Re:Interesting, but nothing really new (Score:5, Insightful)
I never ever have bought a product found through an advert. So I'm actually costing less to the chain of advertising than if I actually downloaded their ads (ok, but more than if I never visited their sites).
Do you really think they'd be better off if I have actually seen their ads but never acted on them? That would imply being a leech to the people who paid for the ads, isn't it? How is adblock different?
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A leech because we want to explore the internet without unsolicited ads? A user may be interested in exploring a sites content only to be exposed to unsolicited (and importantly here, unannounced) advertising. Seems to me like adblocker is a great service
Just because you make money from ads doesn't mean it's the only way for "society" to grow fruitfully, in fact I'd argue that it is unnecessary (though heavily relied upon because it is an option). That advertising provides disproportionate support to aspec
Re:Interesting, but nothing really new (Score:5, Insightful)
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In order to receive an ad, I have to actually request the ad (part of how HTTP works). Sure, my browser's default behavior is to request all images/flash/etc, but I can easily instruct it not to.
Out of the mouths of ACs... this is the most insightful and informative thing I've read in any discussion pertaining to ad-blocking.
Re:Interesting, but nothing really new (Score:5, Insightful)
Using ad-blocker is simply stealing. And yes I do call it stealing because you are incurring a cost on the content provider without compensating them. Its no different from stealing at a store with poor security.
So, is using links/lynx/w3m stealing too? Is turning off images in Firefox and not installing flash stealing too?
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And how is it different to watching an ad and not buying the product?
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But then again, advertisers are one of the biggest problems and inefficencies of a capitalistic society. Trying to brainwash people using simple psychologic tricks to get them to allocate their money inefficently.
I will go out of my way to not watch ads and make sure others don't have to watch them either. It is my duty as someone who values the efficency that the free market claims to create. And I care absolutly nothing about scum like you who promote inefficency and waste of resources.
And yes, that inclu
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However, I think most/all ad systems nowaday pay per click, or use even stricter metrics; I doubt many still pa
That's not the browser speed (Score:5, Funny)
That's just the rendering engine they're testing. My browser is called "AdBlock".
If you want speed... (Score:2)
If you want speed, use links, elinks, lynx, links2, links-hacked, linkx, etc...
You even get graphics in the last 4. I think lynx finds the window-id of the xterm and then draws in to it. Which is unholy and scary the first time you see it.
If you want features, then, well, you might want to look elsewhere. But they're fast. Personally, I use a graphical links variant for everything I can and switch to what ever Mozilla variant of the day in installed for websites requiring javascript.
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Try links2 -g for a graphical lynx. As for the performance, it's no doubt fast to load, but may be much slower to navigate.
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My mistake. w3m can do inline images in xterms.
Wrong use case (Score:5, Interesting)
...at least for me. I don't care about optimizations that allow a page to be loaded and rendered 0.1 seconds faster. The lower bound on how fast a page loads is rarely imposed by the browser anyway.
I often like to use the "Open All in Tabs" feature of Firefox, in which an arbitrarily high number of bookmarks in a folder are opened and loaded simultaneously. I can open and load 15 sites (with adblocking) in under 3 seconds. Chrome seemed to take a second to open just one tab, let alone 15.
I'm not saying I'm the normal user, but test more than the scripting engine and the rendering system before saying a browser "tops speed tests".
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Not my firefox. It takes more like 10 seconds to load 9 tabs.
Speed? (Score:2, Interesting)
Not to air my own bias, but... (Score:2)
The graphs on page 2 ("Browser Extensions") don't make much sense. Look at the values shown vs. the tickmarks at the bottom.
Additionally, you might note the omission of how the timing was done in the first section, Testing Methodology. That the author claimed to use their home broadband connection for the tests doesn't suggest a controlled environment...at best, sort of a "If you happen to be on one of these machines at my house at the same time of day that I was, you might see similar results."
I'm sure eve
I'll give up a few milliseconds. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:I'll give up a few milliseconds. (Score:5, Informative)
Safari? (Score:2, Insightful)
I'm surprized safari scored this bad. Anyway, Browsers are likely the most complex software to properly benchmark. Writing a tangible and useful conclusion from all those charts and numbers is nearly impossible.
I have coded a few large javascript/DOM-intensive applications and my overall feeling is that chrome rocks both on compliance and speed. It also seems much better on garbage collection than FF3, which stills badly suffers from unreleased memory. My experience with safari on those applications is good
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Anyway, Browsers are likely the most complex software to properly benchmark.
You have to be kidding. These browsers are userspace applications running on desktops and have a fairly consistent set of operations to complete the task. Try benchmarking various surveying data collection software applications on embedded devices and you will notice that they all do different things. It is near impossible to determine which is "faster" as that could mean testing sensible workflows, CPU efficiency and a variety of other factors. Or try benchmarking device firmware - it is extremely difficul
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I'm surprized safari scored this bad
I'm not. It has already been pointed out that they used the "wrong" [slashdot.org] versions just to get the results they wanted.
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Ahhhh, that explains. That's like comparing apples and cats.
Nonsense (Score:5, Informative)
There's some weird stuff in this "article". For example, what does it mean to "include V8 code" in a browser? Even choosing V8 as a benchmark is a mistake. Sunspider is the standard JS benchmark and it's much broader in scope.
Awarding 10 points for winning a category and then adding up the points to reach a final score is the most statistically bogus "methodology" ever.
It's nice to see SVG and canvas in benchmarks, but "IE8 will fix that compatibility issue"? Completely untrue, IE8 will not support SVG and canvas. This bit of ignorance makes me worry about the whole piece.
And as others have noted, comparing the Chrome beta against various-aged releases of other browsers makes little sense.
More Nonsense (Score:3)
Let it be known now and henceforth, Google Chrome IS THE ONLY BROWSER USING V8. Safari's new stuff is SquirrelFish and Mozilla's is TraceMonkey.
Please know this before you write an article making yourself look foolish.
Adblock or bust (Score:3, Insightful)
Till it's got adblock, I don't care if it renders pages before they exist. I don't care if it makes me breakfast or does my laundry. In short, without adblock, it ain't S**T.
Why IE7 and not IE8? (Score:5, Insightful)
Chrome is the current browser beta from Google, and IE8 is the current browser beta from MS... so why compare Chrome in the same group as IE7?
Who really cares? (Score:5, Interesting)
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People just want their web apps as snappy as their local applications.
Correction: Developers don't want to have to worry about making their web apps snappy. This push for faster Javascript is not coming from users.
Why not Konqueror? (Score:5, Insightful)
Why does no-one include Konqueror in these tests? It's even available for Windows [kde.org] these days.
Re:Why not Konqueror? (Score:5, Insightful)
In KDE 4, Konqueror uses effectively the same rendering engine as Safari, and I for one have not been encountering many rendering errors. Which sites misrender for you?
The majority of the Firefox codebase is cross-platform. If it crashes on Linux, you can bet it'll crash on Windows too, under similar circumstances*. In my experience, it is equally (un)stable on both platforms.
I use Konqueror for most things due to it's speed, and Firefox when I have to use Windows, and for the occasional sites which insist on specific browsers or use broken flash-detection scripts (why must sites try to decide whether you can have flash content instead of just sending you the tag and seeing what you do with it)?
* Barring buggy plugins, that is. For me, Quicktime causes more crashes than any plugins on Linux.
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Strange, on most of the sites I visit it renders the page fine. Ah well, that's anecdotal evidence for you.
As for BSODs, you are aware that that's the equivalent of a kernel panic, right? Firefox crashing on Linux is the equivalent to Firefox or IE crashing on Windows. Now, it may be that FF for Linux is less stable than FF for Windows; given how much the Mozilla devs seem to not "get" Linux/Unix it wouldn't surprise me.
But unless you've been having kernel panics more often than BSODs, then Linux is still r
What's up with the Opera score? (Score:2, Insightful)
How come the only beta browser tested was Chrome? (Score:5, Insightful)
It's quite dubious that the only beta browser tested was Chrome, especially when most of the others have publicly available beta versions available for testing. Yes, I understand that the *only* release of Chrome is a beta, but then either Chrome should be disqualified from testing since it's not a final release or other browsers' beta releases should be allowed into the test (why not include both a final and beta release of those in that case, so we can see if there are improvements in the beta?).
I'd also like to see tests on non-Windows platforms as well, although Chrome scores as badly as IE here - it's *only* available on Windows at the moment and there's been a vague promise of ports to Mac and Linux, but these seem to be predictably dragging on and on.
hey! (Score:2, Funny)
Mac build of Chrome(ium) (Score:2)
The latest version can be found here [securityandthe.net]. It renders /. so it must be good, right?
Rigged? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Dosen't change the fact that (Score:5, Funny)
Nonsense. I'm using Firefox.
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Terrible Anonymous Cowarding. Just a quick glance:
"along with a image of a successful run of the test, with the score '17' clearly visible"
The image doesn't show what browser it is from, and the numbers in the image are 100, 12, 100/100, 13. Not a 17 in the lot.
Well, that speaks for itself. Also terribly choice of username and bad methodology as usual.
Unfortunately he already won: I wasted 30 seconds with this reply.
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This is Slashdot - you're not supposed to read TFA. It makes the discussions that much more interesting!
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Very few FF3.0 plugins will work on 3.1beta.
Actually, most of them will, if you install the Nightly Tester Tools [mozilla.org] add-on. You can then force compatibility on any or all of your add-ons.
YMMV, but in my case, the following work fine in 3.1 beta 1: iMacros, Adblock Plus, DownloadHelper, Firebug, Flashgot, Foxmarks, and Web Developer Toolbar.