Illusion Cloak Makes One Object Look Like Another 219
KentuckyFC writes "Metamaterials are synthetic substances that can steer light in any way imaginable. Their most famous incarnation is in invisibility cloaks which work by steering light around a region of space making any object inside that region invisible. But invisibility is just the start. A team of physicists in Hong Kong (the same guys who recently worked out how to cloak objects at a distance) have worked out how to create a cloak that makes one object look like another. Instead of steering light to make a region of space look empty, the illusion cloak manipulates light in a way that makes a region of space look as if it contains a specific object. So any object within that region of space, a mouse say, takes on the appearance of an elephant."
That's some sweet stuff (Score:5, Funny)
Soon people all over can put one on their wives to have them look like supermodels... Yay!
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Or put one on my... you know...like they made the mouse look like an elephant?
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Still won't change the pleasure your new elephant can give.
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He meant it the other way around.
Yeah. *OW*
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Instead of steering light to make a region of space look empty, the illusion cloak manipulates light in a way that makes a region of space look as if it contains a specific object, such as an elephant. So any object within that region of space, a mouse say, takes on the appearance of an elephant."
This is just going to piss off astronomers and give more credence to the UFO and ET enthusiasts when miscreants start projecting images of elephants floating around in the night sky.
Re:That's some sweet stuff (Score:5, Funny)
Anybody who's ever gone to a drag bar knows this is not new.
When I moved to a new apartment in Chicago's New Town in my early twenties, my roommate (native of Kansas) and I walked around the corner to get a beer after a long day of hauling furniture. The first thing we noticed was the place was full of incredibly hot girls.
Or so we thought...
Fortunately, a bartender took pity on us two naifs and clued us in before we did anything irredeemable. My buddy, who was a few beers ahead of me, took some convincing, let me tell you.
Cognitive dissonance, when it involves the little head, is tough to deal with sometimes.
Re:That's some sweet stuff (Score:5, Funny)
If they're hot and never take their pants off, what's the problem?
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If they're hot and never take their pants off, what's the problem?
If they never take their pants off, what's the point?
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Therein or thereon?
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Theremin, of course. :P
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If they are hot just fuck them in the ass. What's the big problem. Ass is ass if they are hot. Just stick your cock in their nice plump rear and call it a night. Fucking prude.
- Wolf Bearclaw
Re:That's some sweet stuff (Score:5, Funny)
We already have that. It's called "beer".
Re:That's some sweet stuff (Score:5, Funny)
My wife is a supermodel, you insensitive clod!
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Re:That's some sweet stuff (Score:4, Informative)
I don't have a wife, you insensitive clod!
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You forgot, where the blow-up hole was, have you? ^^
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Since it affects everything in the area, you would also look like the same supermodel.
That would kill 2 birds with one stone, no pun intended =D
Invisibility cloak?!? (Score:5, Funny)
It's Called . . . (Score:5, Funny)
Doesnt sound like much? (Score:5, Interesting)
Imagine the ability to make a tank look like a heavy truck at a distance(say to a drone), or a rocket launcher to look like a stack of pipes on satellite photos.
Re:Doesnt sound like much? (Score:5, Insightful)
We're about as close to achieving a usable cloak of illusion as we are to achieving world piece...
Re:Doesnt sound like much? (Score:5, Funny)
The only way to do it is one step at a time, so I think I'll start by getting myself a piece.
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> We're about as close to achieving a usable cloak of illusion as we are to achieving
> world piece...
Hardly. We have a sketchy, highly speculative theory for a cloak of illusion. I wouldn't even say were about as close to achieving world peace as we are to achieving
faster than light travel.
World piece, on the other hand, is something else entirely. Perhaps it's related to whirled peas?
Re:Doesnt sound like much? (Score:4, Funny)
That's because there's no such thing as a cloak of illusion. It's a Hat of Disguise. Sheesh.
Re:Amazing magic tricks? (Score:5, Funny)
Are you really all that amazed by "Wow! That guy bought a product and used it! On stage!"?!?
I don't know...does it run Linux?
Re:Doesnt sound like much? (Score:5, Insightful)
Seems to me like you could just make a small tank look like a heavy truck by hanging some shit on it. Ditto for the rocket launcher situation.
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Seems to me like you could just make a small tank look like a heavy truck by hanging some shit on it. Ditto for the rocket launcher situation.
Since you have to cover the tank/rocket launcher with this cloak, that's essentially what they're doing.
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In your scenario, someone makes a lot of money selling some magical mystical shit. In my scenario, they could probably just use fitted covers (maybe with mylar in them so they show up on radar too) with a nice four-color job on them and someone gets to pocket the savings. I guess either way the taxpayer loses.
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Re:Doesnt sound like much? (Score:5, Informative)
There is good reason for this. If you hit a tank with something that just explodes and rains shrapnel, the hit will just bounce off, maybe destroying the optics but that is about it. You have to pierce the armor, which you do by hitting it with something very heavy and slender (such as a rod of depleted uranium) traveling at high speed that focuses a bunch of energy on one point. The heat from the collision and spalling from the armor itself then destroys whatever is behind the armor.
This does not work for a truck. If you hit it with a KE round, the round will just sail right through it. If there is nothing vital (the driver, engine, fuel lines, etc) where the KE round happens to pass, then the truck will just keep rolling. That is why you hit it with HE or MG fire. The many small bits of metal from an exploding HE round have a much higher chance of hitting something vital than the single big chunk from a KE round.
As far as a tank is concerned, you usually only get one or two shots at it before it or its buddies start returning fire. If you hit it with the wrong ammunition, he is going to kill you.
It should be noted that the inverse is also true. Making vehicles such as a truck look highly armored increases their survivability in certain situations because AT rounds are rarer than lighter ammunition and an infantry squad with a machine gun is not going attack a tank.
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I dunno. I've played Civilization IV, and I've seen tanks get beat up by archers or swordsmen...
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Seems to me like you could just make a small tank look like a heavy truck by hanging some shit on it. Ditto for the rocket launcher situation.
Not only can you do that, Bernard Montgomery's Eighth Army did so at El Alamein back in 1942.
Re:Doesnt sound like much? (Score:5, Insightful)
Or vice versa.
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I'm sure something like this would be the weapon of choice for agent provacateurs.
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Isn't it easier, and cheaper, to just have Dick Cheney "supervise" the people collecting data, and help them provide "enhanced" photos for the UN?
Colin Powell's presentation of those smudgey, awful, inaccurate photos to the USA was also a great way for the Republicans to make sure they didn't have to deal with a black candidate from their own party: you could see his career nosediving along with the respect for the US every day as that mess progressed.
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The disguise cloak will probably be more expensive than a rocket launcher. :)
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Why make a tank look like a heavy truck or a rocket launcher look like a stack of pipes when you could make them look like just another rock?
a rock? i was thinking more along the lines of making the tank look like a tree, and loading it up with armor piercing shells. combine a few of those with some prism tanks, and the only thing to worry about are soviet blimps.
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Oh noez!11 *Weeeeeeep*
Re:Doesnt sound like much? (Score:5, Funny)
"Sarge it looks like they're bringing out the heavy artillery, I can spot 3 Ford Escorts's and what looks like postman pat's van in the distance"
It'd be great as a car alarm / defense system, one click of a button and the car changes from a Ferrari into a Robin Reliant (let's face it no-one's going to steal one of those)
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Robin Reliant makes for a great space shuttle though. Try to find the top gear episode.
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Bottom video :D [topgear.com]
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Old news (Score:2, Flamebait)
Hamas and Hizballah have been using this technology for years. They've successfully made troop carriers look like ambulances, and armories look like hospitals, for many years now.
This trick works especially well if the reflected light passes through a BBC lens.
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Imagine the ability to make a tank look like a heavy truck at a distance(say to a drone)
While that may work really well with people and detection systems that depend on light, it's probably worth pointing out that these metamaterials will probably have little affect on other methods of detection, such as radar and infrared, for example.
Metamaterials are synthetic substances that can steer light in any way imaginable
As I understand it, Drones have do have infrared cameras (as an example). Of course, that doesn't make much difference if the ground pilot is navigating entirely by the visible light camera and has to switch modes or something, but I'm not really sure how that
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If I remember correctly the invisibility cloak that exists (how strange to write that) is for the infrared spectrum. Visible light may be harder because the range is broader, or I could be way off base. It's a gamble!
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Any fool can fix that chameleon circuit if you just try hotwiring the fragment links and superseding the binary binary binary binary binary binary binary binary binary binary binary binary binary binary binary
I see... (Score:5, Funny)
Great! This is awesome. Now, where did I put my invisibility cloak so I can fiddle with it?
Yes, the wall must be thin -- thin enough for light to pass through it. In other words, thin enough to see through without the cloak on top of it. So, in order to see through a see-through wall, we put the cloak in front of it, then make the cloak appear to be a hole, through which we can see through the see-through wall. I see.
These gedanken experiments are nice and all, but I'll believe it when I see it. Or rather, when I don't.
Re:I see... (Score:5, Funny)
It's right in front of you.
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Their idea is to create the illusion that a wall has a hole in it
BIG DEAL... Wile E. Coyote was doing this (courtesy of A.C.M.E. Corp.) since
the 1960's.
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ugg (Score:5, Insightful)
Silly rabbit (Score:3, Insightful)
What makes you think there are no prototypes yet? Just because they didn't show you photos? If you were in the military, wouldn't you fly out to see these guys ASAP when you heard this? Would you give them large amounts of cash if it looked probable? Would you keep a very tight lid on any prototypes that they produced?
I am not a believer in conspiracy theories, but I would be very disappointed in
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Just because they didn't show you photos
Of an invisibility cloak ?
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That is because the people writing these articles have no idea what they are talking about. You can't make a mouse look like an elephant, unless you are dealing with waves much longer than an elephant, in which case that would be like making a baseball look like an elephant sized baseball, and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the balls or mice or elephants. Only the size of the shadow would have relevance.
Metamaterials can only cloak objects smaller than the wavelength of light you are dealing with. Once you start getting to half wavelength objects the cloaking turns to crap, and only works for a very very thin bandwidth. That wouldn't be very helpful for visible cloaking, because we see a wide range of wavelengths.
What metamaterials MAY be useful is radar cloaking. There are also applications useful for scientific instruments such as NSOM (Near-field Scanning Optical Microscope), in which you can cloak the probe so that you do not interfere with the light you are trying to measure.
Metamaterials are very interesting, but not for the layman. Move along.
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Once you start getting to half wavelength objects the cloaking turns to crap, and only works for a very very thin bandwidth. That wouldn't be very helpful for visible cloaking, because we see a wide range of wavelengths.
What metamaterials MAY be useful is radar cloaking.
Can't someone just invent wide-band radar to get around that?
Prior Art (Score:2)
No need for all that mucking about with physics - they just need to hire this student:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5261752/Artist-creates-invisible-car.html [telegraph.co.uk]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8030766.stm [bbc.co.uk]
Magic: yes or no? (Score:5, Interesting)
Assuming this is real, does this qualify as magic?
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it makes it 'sufficiemtly advamced technology' - if it works.
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If you don't understand how it works, yes.
rj
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But can they make it bigger on the inside? (Score:4, Funny)
SETI (Score:3, Funny)
Paperclips in space? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Paperclips in space? (Score:5, Funny)
If I saw a disappearing and re-appearing paperclip while looking into space through a telescope I think I'd notice...
Hi, it looks like you are trying to make an astronomical discovery. Would you like to...
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It was an Underpants Gnomes franchise, but someone misread the instructions.
Re:SETI (Score:4, Funny)
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It is not unreasonable to surmise that if we are able to develop this kind of technology (big if...) prior to developing reasonable technologies for enabling interstellar travel (whether some kind of suspended animation, long term survival technologies, or "warp drive"), then other civilizations may have as well. Thus it follows that any civilization with the technology to visit us would likely have the technology to observe us while remaining unobserved.
So, though your comment is modded funny, I think it's
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Well that sounds nice. We're developing no-ships before we develop prescience. The human race is saved!
vaporware (Score:5, Informative)
The summary is bad enough, talking about invisibility cloaks as if they actually exist. This and the prior work by the team are nothing more than computer models. I'm not discounting the importance of the research, just the way in which it's framed. We don't have such cloaks yet and likely won't for a long time.
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It's made out of unobtanium (Score:3, Insightful)
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> In other words the creation of a material that doesn't (or cannot in our universe)
> exist.
Read up on metamaterials. It's already been done, though not in the exact form these guys suggest.
Poor Girl's Version... (Score:4, Interesting)
http://www.boingboing.net/2009/05/04/art-student-creates.html [boingboing.net]
Pics or it didn't happen! (Score:2)
IMO, a theory is not news. Especially with something like this, which just screams out "pics plz!". A Youtube video of it being thrown over the object or something would at least be an attempt to back it up, even though it's easily faked.
And in other news... (Score:2)
researcher Yun Lai, has been seen hanging around the Lost and Found Office at Hong Kong University of Science and Technology with a VERY pissed-off expression on his face.
I think it's been done before (Score:5, Funny)
Because I've definitely seen elephants that weren't really there. And the weird thing is that they were always pink. And only showed up after I've had a few... Hmmmm.
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On future uses: (Score:5, Funny)
Overheard in a girls washroom in the near future:
"Hey, there's something wrong with the faucet on this sink. No matter how much I turn the knobs, it only dispenses soap!
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You know that it does not work that way, do you? I hope... or else I really do not know what you are? Because everybody knows that there are no girls on the net. And well, if you were a guy... Have you changed your underpants recently (last two decades)? ^^
Nice (Score:2)
So any object within that region of space, a mouse say, takes on the appearance of an elephant.
Nice. They'll be making condoms out of this stuff when?
Dude? (Score:3, Funny)
Yeah?
You remember those mousetraps you put out yesterday?
Yeah. What about them?
Well, there's an elephant caught in one.
No shit?
Dude. What kind of cheese are you using?
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It's not like someone thinks, for example, what a great kids toy you could make with this tech.
Any small wonder we have wars? Rather than have a LOT more fun.
Re:Military applications (Score:4, Funny)
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Man, if only I had one of these as a kid... I would have been the undisputed champion at hide-and-go-seek!!!
I'll bet you would be. And you'd always happen to be "hiding" in the girl's locker room.
Yeah... so would I.
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As for the black hole thing, I presume that the red matter has to be heated to a certain temperature in order to 'detonate'. The fact that the planet's core is probably no hotter than the capsule would become on impact is a mere technicality and the big drill was cool, ok?
(Did anyone else see the mysterious 'red matter' an
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I'm at a loss to understand why the release of pictures is so important. Everyone with a grain of common sense *knows* it's been happening, and probably a lot worse at various worldwide CIA invisible detainment facilities.
Seems like just another media quest for ratings, "now with *exclusive" 1.3 megapix cellphone pictures of some brown person hung upside down".
What bothers me is more the fact that they took the pictures in the first place ? Official records of illegal activities ? Mementoes for someone's mi