Google Tricycles To Map Footpaths For Street View 274
CNETNate writes "To advance its Street View service this summer, Google is poised to unleash the unstoppable power of human legs. Google will deploy pedal-powered tricycles — the company calls them 'Google Trikes' — mounted with 360 degree Street View cameras to map areas inaccessible by its fleet of Street View cars." The article indicates that the trikes will first see use in the UK, to map out public walking paths, but one anonymous commenter said: "This must be bogus — you are not allowed to cycle on public footpaths in the UK, I can't believe Google would have overlooked such a fundamental fact. Not to mention that the vehicle pictured wouldn't fit down most paths." PC World features the trikes in Rome.
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When they said paths, I at first thought of a path into/through the woods...not a public place like mentioned in the article.
You were right to think that - 'footpaths' in the UK are often in the countryside, or along canals or through parks etc. When they are in a city, they often were there before the city; very old routes that have been public pathways for centurys. The laws governing them and right-of-way on them go right back to medieval times.
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Good job kdawson! (Score:5, Funny)
"The article indicates that the trikes will first see use in the UK"
He then goes on to link to pictures of them actually being used in Rome. Did the UK annex Rome?
History lesson (Score:5, Funny)
Did the UK annex Rome?
No, it was the other way round. Rome invaded Britain in 43AD. I think they've mostly gone home now.
Re:History lesson (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, but what have the Romans ever done for us?
Re:History lesson (Score:4, Funny)
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What... you missed that memo? Where have you been?
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I think he's been working on the cover for his TPS reports.
Re:Good job kdawson! (Score:5, Insightful)
Put cameras on everyone's cats.... You'll get a lot more than a "street view".....
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Put cameras on everyone's cats.... You'll get a lot more than a "street view".....
And speaking of people's cats, you could put them up dogs' noses and get many an entertaining shot.
Re:Good job kdawson! (Score:4, Funny)
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I suspect the average cat would be difficult to put up a dogs nose.
Only in solid form.
Re:Good job kdawson! (Score:4, Funny)
Put cameras on everyone's cats.... You'll get a lot more than a "street view".....
Especially the view from Ceiling Cat.
Next up: (Score:5, Funny)
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And after that: Google Ants!
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With Google Sherpa they could map the moon! [theonion.com]
Re:Next up: (Score:5, Informative)
They already did [google.com]!
Pretty soon ... (Score:5, Funny)
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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/108/261905722_d2912c0465.jpg It's already been done!
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Don't have to try this link.
Google [google.com]
Re:Pretty soon ... (Score:5, Funny)
Me: Honey, where did I put my car keys?
Her: I don't know dear, just fucking google it.
Me: OK, according to Google they are on the keyhook next to the door... WTF? They aren't there!
Her: Oh, that's right, dear, the Googol Housecrawling Spiders of Doom haven't been through since last Tuesday. That's where they were then.
Me: Fucking useless GoogleHouse app. At least they helpfully recorded the combination when I unlocked my safe.
Re:Pretty soon ... (Score:5, Funny)
There's always Google's cached copy of them...
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Er, car keys. Sorry.
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Yes, but I draw the line at stealing policemen's helmets.
Re:Pretty soon ... (Score:5, Funny)
Shortly after I showed Google Earth to my Mom, she came to me with a question. A friend of hers wanted to know if I could get photos of someone who broke into her house. That's right; satellite images of a specific time (at night!) that were good enough that you could actually identify the people in them, on google, for free. Now, maybe the CIA can do this....
I remember being amazed at what was offered on Google Earth when it first came out. It is always surprising when someone else thinks that a technology can do something that is insanely more complicated than what I was amazed by.
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Isn't this a problem we all often encounter at work? Those who do not understand the technology or process do not understand the limits of the technology or the process.
I've a coworker, a "well-seasoned" gentleman, who does not understand internal combustion engines, nor basic chem
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Considering the scale bars at the bottom are set to 200 miles, then I would say its a pretty big flat.
There would be no problem seeing it from orbit, the coffee table is 100 miles by 200 miles just by itself, and the rug is a massive 700 miles square.
Your brother must be rich to afford a flat that big!
Re:Pretty soon ... (Score:5, Funny)
Wouldn't tightening them be more appropriate?
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Little cameras grow... (Score:2, Funny)
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I wonder why the guy in the picture is even wearing a helmet. It's difficult to fall off a tricycle.
google + scuba = ? (Score:4, Interesting)
gooba? scoogle? scooble?
just attach cameras to aquatic lifeforms and let us swim the depths of the oceans from our computers... no chance of being stabbed in the heart by a stingray, either!
Re:google + scuba = ? (Score:5, Funny)
Self-contained underwater Google app.
Re:google + scuba = ? (Score:5, Funny)
Oh great. Sharks with frickin' Google cams.
LIDAR? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:LIDAR? (Score:5, Funny)
By attaching it to their masts.
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First of, that are likely four LIDARs. Two horizontal (forward-backward), two vertical (left-right).
My semi-educated guess:
- Horizontal: Kind of SLAM [wikipedia.org]: Creating a map and improving the own position accuracy (as initially determined by GPS) through a map.
- Vertical: 3D surface-reconstruction.
This is all well and good... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:This is all well and good... (Score:4, Funny)
I can just imagine (Score:3, Insightful)
http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/02/1731231
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/13/0055234
I can just imagine what these guys riding around on bikes will meet up with - Can anyone say moving target?
Re:I can just imagine (Score:5, Funny)
I imagine they'll have plenty of evidence to help the police identify their assailants.
Re:I can just imagine (Score:5, Funny)
5 acres away? If you planted those 250 yards with zucchini, how many neighbors could you bother over the next furlong?
(Yeah, yeah, so I'm not all that great with jokes about improperly used units.)
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They see me roll on
My Google Trike
And I know in my heart
They think I'm ridin' nerdy
Just saw one of these.... (Score:5, Interesting)
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I saw a Google bicycle months ago on the Penn State campus. IIRC it was an ordinary bike towing a trailer that was tricked out with that same type of camera.
What, wheels? (Score:2)
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Forget street view, how about decent maps (Score:5, Insightful)
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It would be great to have a feature that a) lets me find them, and b) tells me exactly how far out of my way I'd need to go for the added safety/pleasantness of using them.
And hookers.
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And Blackjack!
In fact, forget the bike paths! And the Blackjack.
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My guess is that it will give Google access to the many urban streets which only allow taxis, public buses, emergency vehicles, and bicycles during the day. This is extremely common.
I think you're correct there. For instance, most of Oxford Street (London) isn't on Streetview because it's buses/taxis/cycles only.
They can also do public squares, pedestrian/cycling-only streets etc. They can even do no-cycling areas if they wheel the tricycle.
There's a few businesses and the like... (Score:5, Interesting)
Actually, extending StreetView to things off the street makes sense to me, for certain values of "things off the street" - there's a few businesses and the like I'd like to see mapped.
Example: I'd like to see my local zoo [scz.org] or one of our local museums [oldcowtown.org] set up so that I could use my GPS to find my way around - and being able to see some of the exhibits would be a bonus.
If *I* ran those places, I'd be begging Google to scan my site!
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So you want someone else to take pictures of your zoo and a museum so you can use an electronic device to find your way around said places?
Huh, and here I thought the zoo [scz.org] and museum [oldcowtown.org] had already thought of ways to let people navigate the exhibits.
Unless you meant you want to view these places on your small monitor instead of physically visiting them and getting all the sensory feedbac
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And when will Macrobee integrate GPS into PDF in a fashion my N800 can use to show me exactly where I am, or where I took a wrong turn and missed the animal exhibit I was looking for?
Also, there is the idea of "Do I want to visit this?" - do YOU know if you'd want to visit the Sedgwick County Zoo? How can you tell if it is a bunch of concrete cages with sickly animals or a well-run zoo with really good exhibits? After all, NO zoo is going to say on their website "We SUCK!" Being able to take a quick spin ar
Re:There's a few businesses and the like... (Score:5, Funny)
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They have but the problem was the naming. "Google pervert" just wasn't marketable so they scrapped the entire project.
to much chain slack (Score:2)
That would be a killer to try and ride with that much chain slack.
Likely the tension wheels are just temporarily missing.
It is the small details in photos (especially the street views) that cause the problems. The overall intent does not matter.
where does it all end... (Score:2)
Google anal probe. Maybe they could call it the g-Oatse?
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Not just paths through the woods (Score:2)
An April Fools Day joke in May? (Score:3, Funny)
Next thing you know they'll be reporting that Lister has been hired to peddle the thing around London. They tried to hire Cat but he was afraid being outside in the summer heat and humidity would ruin his fantastically perfect hairdo.
Hey, I want one of those trikes... (Score:2)
... for my mobile porn data center.
Mapjack.com already does this (Score:5, Informative)
Regardless of whether Google is going to use Tricycles, they're not the first to market with this feature. http://www.mapjack.com/ [mapjack.com] already has many many trails mapped out, things that bicycles may even have a hard time on.
I'm waiting for... (Score:2)
Google Bike Path, Foot Trail, and River would be.. (Score:4, Funny)
awesome. To the best of my knowledge, GPS's will show rivers, but if you are paddling on one, it won't give you a great ETA. Google Rivers, on the other hand, could record average current speed and all the bends in the river to a genuine geocoded object instead of a dumb jpeg. That would be pretty sweet.
Profit!!! (Score:4, Funny)
Segway (Score:2)
Why they didn't buy a bunch of Segways for it, is beyond me.
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Why they didn't buy a bunch of Segways for it, is beyond me.
Trikes are cheaper to buy than Segways which start at $2,400.
Trikes are cheaper to maintain than Segways.
Trikes are easier to maintain than Segways since all you need is a regular bike mechanic that can be found in any good bike store.
Segways require electrical power just to stand up, that kind of power costs money. Trikes don't use any power when standing up because they've got three wheels.
Segways require electrical power to operate, trikes don't and hence have a lower carbon footprint.
Segways have to be
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Maybe if they built a large wooden badger...
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Google's armada (Score:2)
Next, Google autonomous aircraft. Big ones for overall views, little ones for street views. Small boats for waterways and coastlines.
Then, Google Humans. Face pictures of everybody on the planet.
Laugh now. Someday they'll be in charge.
what for? (Score:2)
Street views of addresses I understand. I find it helpful to have a picture of where I'm trying to find.
Why would someone want this service? Are their vendors on the path like in World of Warcraft that google wants to map? I can see google maps giving directions like 20 yards exit the tree stump on the right.
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Biped (Score:2)
Perhaps they should use something more like this [wikimedia.org].
Mechanical Masterpiece? (Score:2)
Mechanical masterpiece? Let's see:
Disc Brakes on the front? Not needed unless you plan on taking this thing in the rain.
Suspension: Yes in the front, but glaringly missing in the rear, which you'd want for stability.
Safety: Didn't see any reflectors on it
Convenience: Not even a water bottle holder. I guess
Google - OK! Gov't = Big Brother (Score:4, Insightful)
Why is it ok in the public eye for google to do this, but when the gov't does this it's BigBrother and 1984 all over again?
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Presumably coz Google doesn't have tens of thousands of armed employees legally empowered to kill.
Smile (Score:2)
That guy [cnet.co.uk] looks real fuckin' happy about it too. Blissful, I believe is the word.
Language Barrier (Score:2)
The path less googled (Score:4, Funny)
I shall be twittering this with a sigh
On someone's blogs and blogs hence:
Two paths diverged in a wood, and I--
I took the one less googled by,
And that has made all the difference.
--RFrostie1977
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I don't want my house, garden, neighborhood and face plastered all over the web for everyone to gawk at. You don't want it. Nobody wants it.
I kinda want it.
Proposal? (Score:2)
Do you have any concrete proposal, or are you just whining?
Any "cure" to this would be far worse than the disease, I guarantee.
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I'm sorry...What!?
That has to be the most retarded comment I've ever heard. No one should be limited to rights just because of how "Big" they are.
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That has to be the most retarded comment I've ever heard. No one should be limited to rights just because of how "Big" they are.
So what you are saying is that a monopoly shouldn't be regulated?
Maybe you should rethink your position.
The poster is asserting that what should be in-alienable rights for an individual at the individual level do not implicitly work at massive scales. The meaning of those rights transform as they scale up.
I should be allowed to exhale carbon dioxide; nobody would ever dispute this.
Re:Rights Do Not Scale Up (Score:5, Insightful)
I think rights should scale up. I really don't see a problem with that.
Oh, I see, you seem to have drunk the kool-aid and accepted that corporations are people who have rights. That's where the fault lies in all your examples, not with any inductive scaling.
All that said... in this particular example, I do want my house on Google. Or, to be specific, I want other people's houses on Google -- many times I've made use of the Street View pictures to see what my destination will look like. And I can see other people wanting the same when I give them directions to my house. And I don't mind the pictures being up, and I certainly don't intend to take up a hypocritical position on the matter.
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The scale. The scale is the difference. Your post is exactly the kind of argument that I object to.
What you say is correct. It is legal for you to take a picture of my house, and many other house. It is legal for you post those pictures online. It is true that everyone else can legally do so t
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One could even argue that not designing the project to allow disabled individuals to perform the work is job discrimination.
I suppose one could, but one would be wrong. The job description is for someone to pedal this bike around so it can take pictures. Therefore, being able to pedal said bike is a Bona Fide Occupational Qualification (BFOQ). Your idea is interesting, but failing to implement it is not discriminatory on Google's part, at least not in any legally recognized way.
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Here is an example of a typical countryside UK footpath. I would defy one to navigate it on a tricycle: http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk/footpathexample.html [beenthere-...hat.org.uk]
or this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mapmakermike/1029015477/ [flickr.com]