New Zealand Creates Safety Billboard That Bleeds When It Rains 137
Officials in Papakura, New Zealand have come up with a billboard that bleeds when it rains. They hope it will encourage drivers to slow down when the weather makes conditions dangerous. Since the billboards have been erected, there hasn't been a fatal accident in the area.
Supernaturally effective (Score:4, Funny)
The power of advertising compels you! To drive safely!
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In the U.S. (Score:5, Funny)
Next billboard (Score:2)
And the very next billboard will be an advertisement asking the question "Constipated?"
Re:In the U.S. (Score:4, Funny)
You're just trying to get goatse posted on a billboard in your community, aren't you?
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Can you please explain the difference?
Wow! Excellent advertising. (Score:2)
Accidents are not accidental. (Score:2)
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How soon before... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:How soon before... We won't (Score:1)
Nor the effigy of Mary.
Now, it is MORE likely we'll instead first see tampons, condoms and depends raining when it's pouring... For that last one, one could ask, "What does it taste like when a billboard is in the rain?" Another could respond, "Umm, welll, ummmm, it... depends..."... DOH!
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Zero of nothing (Score:5, Insightful)
Since the billboards have been erected, there hasn't been a fatal accident in the area.
Of course, being New Zealand, since the billboard was erected there have not been any cars there either.
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Except during the same time frame last year that area had 14 deaths from car accidents.
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Re:Zero of nothing (Score:4, Insightful)
Thats really a small number though that could depend on multiple variables. How do we know that the same amount of cars passed through it? For all we know there could have been a road that was under construction that people use now. Also did the road get any more improvements? What about weather? There would be a big difference if last year there were lots of storms. Etc.
"Small" is entirely relative. Granted that road improvements, construction, weather, etc. could have affected numbers. (Freakish weather is less "variable" than the presence of bleeding billboards.) You are correct that there aren't enough data to do a thorough statistical analysis, but you seem to be grasping at straws. From 14 to 0 could be very statistically significant depending on the standard deviation from year-to-year and the elimination of outside influence. Just because 14 is "small" compared to your local Interstate exit doesn't mean that it's negligible for this stretch of NZ highway.
"TFA" is worthless, but speculating on potential spikes in common, relatively flat variables should not eliminate the speculation on effects of observable variation in very prominent and very uncommon variables. Put more simply, and in a car analogy, if you install a set of used tires and 2 blow out during your normal commute home, look first at your tires and then at potential anomalies in the road.
Plus, for all we know, most of those 14 deaths could have happened with one or two cars.
OK, if you're in NZ (or really pretty much anywhere but India) 14 people in "one or two" cars would be a lot. 14 people in my car (or most any car) would require opening the sun-roof and me meeting a bunch of midgets. If you're going to pedant statistics, refrain from speculating on obvious outliers. 14 deaths in a 1-car wreck on a NZ highway? *Scoff*
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For rare occurrences, a good estimate of the standard deviation is sqrt(n) -- so, roughly +/- 4 deaths.
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Um, the statement was most of those 14 deaths. That means two cars with four people would meet the original requirement. Depending on how picky you are about "most", one mini-van (counts as a car in the US) with seven people would work--while two mini-vans would result in the total number of deaths.
(Or, since it's NZ, it could be a truck with one driver and thirteen sheep...)
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I would even sugest the 14 fatailities in a single incident (regardless of the number of vehicles) would be extremely unlikely given the mortaility rate in a multi-vehicle accident is rarely 100%. Chances are an accident of that scale would have been visible in the world media as some outrageous freak event.
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Knock it off. Just use "data" as a singular noun like everybody else.
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You sound like a safety-skeptic. But, as long as one life is saved, isn't it all worth it?
Oh wait... If for the same price you could have saved 2 lives doing something more senisble I guess not... Or if the life you saved was some numb-skull who'll just waste himself a week later doing something else equally as stupid... Or if it was just a virtual life that never wouldn't have been spent regardless of your actions...
Damn I hate the phrase "as long as one life is saved"... It's almost as bad as "Won't
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Oh wait... If for the same price you could have saved 2 lives doing something more senisble I guess not...
What's even more insidious are things which maybe save a few lives, but inconvenience millions of other people. Speed limits are a prime example; even if the reasoning was sound (it's not - they jump from "X% of road deaths were speed related" to "thus we could save Y lives if we drop the state speed limit by 10km/h" without acknowledging that if the cops list a road death as "speed related" they weren't following the bloody speed limit anyway), the extra time, fuel and wear-and-tear that it costs everyone
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According to Wikipedia, the region in question [wikipedia.org] has about 48,300 people and is about 48 square miles. It's not clear what they mean by Easter Period, but I'd guess either Lent or Easter weekend. Especially if it's Easter weekend, a drop from 14 to 0 deaths over 3 days in an area the size of about 1.5 Massachusetts towns sounds rather significant.
I know that "correlation is not causation" is a popular mantra, both here and on fark (heh), but correlation implies the existence of one of two things: either causa
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I couldn't find a document for 2008, but according to the first link on this page [transport.govt.nz] of the Ministry of Transport's site, in 2007 there were a total of 0 bus drivers and 1 bus passenger killed in all crashes through the year, out of a total of 422 vehicle-related deaths (Table 7). These numbers are 0 and 0 in both 2006 and 2005, as well. Furthermore, a Google search for "2008 new zealand bus accident" doesn't appear to turn up any accidents with a death count of 14 or lower, and the only two bus crashes in NZ
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It's not clear what they mean by Easter Period, but I'd guess either Lent or Easter weekend. Especially if it's Easter weekend, a drop from 14 to 0 deaths over 3 days in an area the size of about 1.5 Massachusetts towns
They mean the Easter weekend, which is traditionally the most lethal time of the year on NZ roads. The Easter road toll is counted from 4 pm on the Thursday to 6 am on the Tuesday (the Monday after Easter is a public holiday).
However, as I've also pointed out in another post [slashdot.org] on this page, there is no way in hell that that or any other district in NZ had a road toll of 14 in the Easter weekend of 2008, as the road toll for the entire country that year was 8 (or 9; I've now found one report [tvnz.co.nz] that gives 9, but
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Thats really a small number though that could depend on multiple variables. How do we know that the same amount of cars passed through it? For all we know there could have been a road that was under construction that people use now. Also did the road get any more improvements? What about weather? There would be a big difference if last year there were lots of storms. Etc. Plus, for all we know, most of those 14 deaths could have happened with one or two cars. Its really too small of an amount of deaths to say with any certainty if they are working.
The 14 figure stated by the AC is wrong. The period that they are talking about was over Easter - 4.5 days approximately. According to this [stuff.co.nz] the Easter road toll for 2008 was 9 nationally so I have no idea where the 14 came from.
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Except during the same time frame last year that area had 14 deaths from car accidents.
I sure hope you have a source for this, given that the time frame stated at the end of the clip is the Easter weekend, and in the 2008 Easter weekend there were in fact eight deaths [newstalkzb.co.nz] from car accidents in the whole of New Zealand.
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And if I dumped a car on an uninhabited island that island would have a car ownership rate of infinity (/0)!!! I bet they would have accidents all the time there!
I'd be too busy (Score:2, Insightful)
I could be wrong here... (Score:3, Funny)
but I don't think it's really blood. Seems to be some kind of red liquid to simulate blood, I think.
"Leaking" might be a better word to describe it, I wouldn't use "bleeding" myself.
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You can use bleeding for mechanical/hydraulic systems too. And if it's looks like blood dripping across someone's face, bleeding seems a decent enough use of the word.
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If fluid came out of my brake lines in raging torrents like it seems to do on the billboards I personally wouldn't call it "bleeding".
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I'd probably go with "pissing".
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Nah, you don't think!
Mod parent +1 Insightful.
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Well gosh darn! (Score:3, Funny)
We should better let them know then.
They should immediately start cutting and stabbing actual living things on top of that billboard, or stop calling it "bleeding".
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It's probably rainwater collected at the top/back of the billboard and run through a dyed filter.
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but I don't think it's really blood.
In related news, the New Zealand Health Bureau has stepped up calls for donors in the midst of what is being called "the greatest blood shortage crisis our nation has ever known."
You Are. (Score:3, Funny)
How Long? (Score:5, Insightful)
Until someone crashes while gawking at the bleeding billboards?
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Yeah.. it's like how nothing makes people pay more attention to the road than a flaming jack-knifed semi in the median. See, it reminds them what happens when you don't drive safely.
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Is slowing down to 5 mph to look at that semi considered safe these days?
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No, they aren't slowing down because they're reminded what happens in an accident, they're slowing down to see destruction and maybe some bodies. Just like people will gather around a burning building to watch it burn down.
If they REALLY were feeling that they need to drive safer, they wouldn't be looking to the SIDE instead of the car IN FRONT of them.
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Until someone crashes while gawking at the bleeding billboards?
Almost happened the other day: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sideswipe/news/article.cfm?c_id=702&objectid=10583035 [nzherald.co.nz] (last paragraph in column).
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...No deaths, except for those ones... (Score:3, Funny)
Not reported are those deaths caused by folks either watching or cringing away from the image of a giant boy bleeding out his nostrils and eyebrows. ...followed by a sign that said...burma shave.
Ryan Fenton
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Burma Shave? Is that Myanmar's answer to a certain grooming fashion in south america?
with a few more tweaks (Score:4, Funny)
they also got the billboard to shit bats
making it the most goth/ emo billboard in the world
Awesome much? (Score:2, Funny)
I think that is a pretty cool idea, what better way to get your average 16 year old chucklehead to pay attention and not drive head on into my mom on the road, then to remind him that getting in accidents cause signs to bleed at random in New Zealand...........and also forces people to kill cute puppies and kittens.........
Damn kids! get off my lawn!
But when was it errected? (Score:1)
I just flipped someone off while passing them on my way to work. Since then No radio stations have reported any new accidents.
ROAD RAGE WORKS!
(but not really, I wouldn't do that)
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Did they really realize that they basically made a menstruating billboard? At least it doesn't yell at people or have emotional breakdowns.
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Thats version 2 of this sign...
thats a nice sign look (Score:1)
Missleading (Score:2)
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You mean once they get used to the visage of a child with blood pouring out of their face?
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Ya, why wouldn't one get used to seeing that, if they see it everyday?
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If you want to get people to slow down in the rain (Score:5, Funny)
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You missed the point here... the problem is female drivers! ;)
We should put a baby face on the back of each car instead... this way they'll look the car in front of them, brake when needed (They doesn't want to hurt the baby face in front of them) and accelerate when the car in front of them accelerate.
All will goes right... (assuming the first car is driven by a man)
Problem solved... NEXT
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It'll backfire and all men will speed up to get to find her as quickly as possible. If they happen to find a nude woman on the highway, they'll completely stop causing massive traffic issues and accidents.
I am all for electronic speed limit signs (Score:2)
placed at intervals that they cannot be ignored. When speeds reduce the numbers should be in RED. They can be whatever convention is used for other traffic control signals depending on where in the world they are used.
However, using my area as an example. Normal speeds display in white... suggested speeds in yellow (like they are hinting that a speed reduction is coming) and then finally reduced maximums based on weather or traffic. We already have entrance ramps controlled by lights so why not control
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Bloody New Zealand Brilliance (Score:1)
Wow, bloody roads in New Zealand indeed! Maybe they've been watching too much Lord of the Rings, one bloody set of films...
Don't think of a pink ELEPHANT with bloody eyes. Oh, wait you just did think of it!
Don't think of crashing your car while driving seeing bloody eyes on highway sigh... oh wait you just did... smack...
Driving safe ads need to be carefully crafted so that you don't see a spike in accidents.
Rubbernecking? (Score:2)
The appropriate name for this new material? (Score:3, Funny)
Gore-Techs
Rain isn't causing those accidents (Score:5, Funny)
After watching the video, the real cause of accidents is clear: they drive on the wrong side of the road!
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"After watching the video, the real cause of accidents is clear: they drive on the wrong side of the road!"
Amusing although more than half (66%) of the world's population actually does drive on the left but that is besides the point.
NZ has a real problem with bad drivers. People don't have any clue about stopping distances so tailgating is rampant so the number of related accidents is very high. The road surfaces aren't very good, cars aren't kept in good condition as the Warrant Of Fitness is cursory at best compared with say the MOT in the UK. I was appalled when I first moved here to find that the tyres on my recently bought car were OK as far as the WOF was concerned because they had tread on 80% of the surface (bald around the edges due to misaligned tracking) and passed just fine. The car would slide and aquaplane in the rain so I replaced the whole lot.
Basically, bad road awareness and poorly maintained cars is the main problem. Oh, and no insurance is required, not even third party so if someone crashes into you and they are uninsured you are stuffed. I bought fully comp insurance because of this.
The only real blessing is that the speed limit is so low (100 kph or 62 MPH max even on the few stretches of motorway) but even so, NZ drivers are scary!
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Amusing although more than half (66%) of the world's population actually does drive on the left but that is besides the point.
Population of people, or of cars?
No fair counting India where the number of people greatly exceeds the number of cars -- vehicles per capita is 12 out of 1000 versus the US where it is 765 per 1000. [nationmaster.com]
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And if you count India, you should count it for both sides.
I am not sure how to tell which side they prefer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjrEQaG5jPM [youtube.com]
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Doesn't matter, early morning syndrome struck and the figure is 44% drive on the left, 66% on the right. My bad. 72% of the world's roads are for left hand drive cars.
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Dammit! Wake up! 66% on right, 34% on left. Still a significant portion and unlikely to change in the case of the UK due to the expense of rebuilding junctions.
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today about 66% of the world's people live in right-hand traffic countries and 34% in left-hand traffic countries. About 72% of the world's total road distance carries traffic on the right, and 28% on the left.
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I was appalled when I first moved here to find that the tyres on my recently bought car were OK as far as the WOF was concerned because they had tread on 80% of the surface (bald around the edges due to misaligned tracking) and passed just fine. The car would slide and aquaplane in the rain so I replaced the whole lot.
Did that happen recently? My car failed it's WOF a couple of months ago for exactly this issue (and it wasn't so bad as to cause any loss of grip in any conditions I'd driven in).
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We'll make sure to switch over when they finally build the bridge to ... wherever the nearest country is that drives on the other side of the road.
Hmm ... I guess that would be New Caledonia. ... about 1400 km away.
(But to switch sides there they'll have to switch sides in mainland France as well. That will be our foothold in Europe. Hahahahaha! Soon all of continental Europe will be driving on the left! With blackjack! and hookers!)
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That won't scare Slashdotters . . . (Score:2)
. . . bleeding billboards? Yawn.
. . . now if those billboards could project holograms of sharks with lasers and zombies screaming, "Braaaaiins" . . . it might work.
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How about a billboard with Natalie Portman in hot grits, wearing a t-shirt? ...that gets wet when it rains!
Vandalism Magnet (Score:1)
Correlation is not causation (Score:5, Insightful)
Why should we accept that the rain causes the billboard to bleed? Perhaps the bleeding of the billboard causes the rain...
Better Solution (Score:1)
Great spin! (Score:2)
I'm impressed. Whoever screwed up and forgot to order indelible dyes for the billboards is going to end up with a promotion instead.
Tiger Rock! (Score:2)
Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, sweetie.
Lisa: Dad, what if I were to tell you that this rock keeps away tigers.
Homer: Uh-huh, and how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work. It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: I see.
Lisa: But you don't see any tigers around, do you?
Homer: Lisa, I'd like to buy your rock.
Vista Pollution (Score:4, Funny)
Don't slow down, stay back (Score:2)
"Slowing down" is not really what is needed in most cases...
Which do you think is safer or more effective: slowing down 15% or increasing following distance 15%? I am betting following distance is FAR more critical to accident avoidance. Speed is rarely "the" problem, unless there is a great speed differential in the traffic on the road.
Personally, I always try to leave more distance... and the worse the conditions, the more distance I add. That extra second (or more) can make a big difference.
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Which do you think is safer or more effective: slowing down 15% or increasing following distance 15%?
If you increase your speed 15%, you need to increase your stopping distance by something like 30%.
Physics FAIL
Personally, I always try to leave more distance... and the worse the conditions, the more distance I add. That extra second (or more) can make a big difference.
Very true. Following too close is definitely dumb.
It's simply true that at lower speeds it's easier to avoid a crash. You just have more time! Also, when one occurs, it is less serious.
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Yeah, I thought about it after I posted and realized that speed vs. following distance was probably not directly related. But my point was still generally valid-
With the proper following distance for your speed, you don't have to reduce speed to maintain reasonable safety.
The old "2 second rule" might be OK for any speed, but only under "normal" weather and traffic conditions. When conditions deteriorate, you have to make it a 3 or 4 second rule, instead.
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The old "2 second rule" might be OK for any speed, but only under "normal" weather and traffic conditions. When conditions deteriorate, you have to make it a 3 or 4 second rule, instead.
There are considerations other than stopping distance, for example sight distance. In the rain, for example, it's harder to tell what the cars ahead of you are doing. Slow down, so that there is more time between when you realize someone is a dumbfuck, and when your reflexes have kicked in, if your sight distance is reduced. (Which is why I should probably slow down in the canyons...)
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I guess we can't prove that articles of that type cause that behavior, but there's a strong correlation.