Project Honey Pot Traps Billionth Spam 118
EastDakota writes "Project Honey Pot today announced that it had trapped its 1 billionth spammer. To celebrate, the team behind the largest community sourced project tracking online fraud and abuse released a full rundown of statistics on the last five years of spam. Findings include: spam drops 21% on Christmas Day and 32% of New Year's Day; the most spam is sent on Mondays, the least on Saturdays; spammers found at least 956 different ways to spell VIAGRA (e.g., VIAGRA, V1AGRA, V1@GR@, V!AGRA, VIA6RA, etc.) in mail received by the Project; and much more."
Spelling (Score:2, Interesting)
I have seen 945 of the spellings in my inbox just last week.... damn spammers
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Is there even demand for the stuff? I spend most of my time trying to get it down, not up. Seems like an artificial way of getting it up would just create more problems than it solves...
Spam = spy chatter? (Score:5, Interesting)
Is spam even really spam anymore?
Every now and then I take a look at my gmail spam folder, and none of the messages contain links or even coherent sentences.
Nothing being sold, nothing being said... What's the point?
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*slow golf clap*
Gmail strips most of the links.
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Why would it strip out a link but allow the rest through unchanged? Why does it strip out the links in some spam messages, but not others?
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Gmail strips most of the links.
I have to ask (afraid to hear the depressing answer) even if there are links to something for sale, what's the point? Are there honestly people out there who get an e-mail that is gibberish, a link, and then more gibberish, they click on the link, see "Hey, it's selling viagra! I need viagra!" and enter their credit card, and there are enough of these people that you can make more money preying on them than you can working at McDonalds?
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in short... yes
This is not true. All SPAM needs to get published is somebody to spend a few bucks to get their message out there. That's it. SPAM rates are not goverened by success of the ad. SPAM is, however, dirt cheap (I think I read something like $100 for 50,000 messages...) and a number of people use that stupid "if I only get 1% of those...." logic.
Advertising in general works like that. We still have pop-up ads because some dumb-shits out there are ordering them.
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Re:Spam = spy chatter? (Score:4, Funny)
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And I clicked it without even looking. Shame on me. :(
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Would you really check the URL if you received an e-mail that looked like it was from a close friend that simply read,
Depends on the timing of the email.
I could have been holding an email conversation with someone regarding any number of topics, maybe I was researching treadmills, wondering what was a good deal, where to buy, consumer reviews...
And then in the middle of the conversation comes a "Hey check out this one". Granted, that requires good timing, but it happens.
And damned if I haven't accidentall
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Would you really check the URL if you received an e-mail that looked like it was from a close friend that simply read, "Check out this link: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/12/15/1652236/Project-Honey-Pot-Traps-Billionth-Spam [slashdot.org] [totalyavirus.com]"?
Yes, but I admit that is largely due to being rick-rolled one too many times.
(that and they're usually headed by "Hey Bob..." when my name is not bob.)
Re:Spam = spy chatter? (Score:5, Funny)
My favorite theory is that spammers are making money by selling spamming services to suckers, not by actually selling a product in the spam.
I guess there is also some chance that there is some botnet out there set to verify that mail reaches addresses, and it is just running out of control.
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You mean, skynet actually is created by spammers?
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Well, it's more like a runaway bulldozer than a sentient computer network bent on the destruction of humanity, but sure, why not.
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All life started from chaotic collisions of molecules...
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All life started from chaotic collisions of molecules...
But this had the guiding hand of some sort of developer, a creator of those conditions you might say.
Which is to say, we are God's rhinovirus.
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I guess there is also some chance that there is some botnet out there set to verify that mail reaches addresses, and it is just running out of control.
This. It's not just about finding whether the email address is correct, though, it's also testing the junkmail filters -- seeing what words will get a domain on a blacklist and which will still get delivered or bounced at the directory level. I learned this after researching why I got a promising email titled "TEENAGE GIRL HAS SEX WITH BAT!" only to open it up and find a disappointing message like "Gillette rosemary is talking sweet sound to hair bounces great. Sounded of?"
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They are training your spam filters.
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I get links. Perhaps Google is filtering yours out?
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Attempting to subvert bayasian filters such that future real spam can slip through more easily.
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Is spam even really spam anymore?
Every now and then I take a look at my gmail spam folder, and none of the messages contain links or even coherent sentences.
Nothing being sold, nothing being said... What's the point?
Take heed to the lilly botanical before racing and suffer the pullback!
These puzzle me too. You know what I think it is? I think those are test messages sent by spammers--to test mail filters for which words trigger a junk mail alert.
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Someone is checking to see if the email address is valid.
If so, the spammer will appropriate your name for spam.
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Another tale from the Village of the Spammed.
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So approximately one out of every 7 people on earth is a spammer?
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And thats only the ones they've caught.
In fact, almost everyone on the net is a spammer. It's kind of a secret club, where you have to pass a secret trial, to gain your secret right of entry. It's so secret, I shouldn't even be divulging this secret information. If the secret spammers found out, I could get
Re:ok (Score:4, Funny)
Nice of them to hit the Submit button for you though, though it does seem to defeat the purpose of killing you for trying to send it.
Re:ok (Score:5, Informative)
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The Spam Club is sending a message. That posting was the /. equivalent of a horse's head in your bed.
I fail to see how thats anything like necro-beastiality.
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I used to be into sado-necro-bestiality, but then I realized I was just beating a dead horse.
You forgot (Score:2)
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Actually, when they shot him, his head fell onto his mouse, triggering a click, which by chance hit the submit button.
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Which would work if you could submit things that way, but sadly there's a Preview required.
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Well, in the shock of hearing them coming through the door, he already accidentally had pressed preview.
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Slashdot doesn't make me preview comments prior to submiting, perhaps that's because I use the old commenting system.
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Perhaps he was dictating?
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And thats only the ones they've caught.
In fact, almost everyone on the net is a spammer. It's kind of a secret club, where you have to pass a secret trial, to gain your secret right of entry. It's so secret, I shouldn't even be divulging this secret information. If the secret spammers found out, I could get
NO CARRIER?
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In fact, almost everyone on the net is a spammer. It's kind of a secret club, where you have to pass a secret trial, to gain your secret right of entry. It's so secret, I shouldn't even be divulging this secret information.
Order your copy of the Secret Guide to Membership NOW. Only 19.99$, for 29.99$ you get the extra DvD and you own genuine signet ring!
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seriously...mostly it is people with viri.
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Did you check if your mail server is actually an open relay?
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If my understanding is correct, project honey pot puts bogus emails in webpages and any mail sent to those email addresses are, pretty much by definition, spam.
If that's true, then that would indicate that your machine is sending email to honey pot addresses.
People fall for spam? (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm just sayin'...
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because if you send a million spam mails you only need a handful of people to actually buy anything, I'm talking a few dozen, to cover your costs.
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because if you send a million spam mails you only need a handful of people to actually buy anything, I'm talking a few dozen, to cover your costs.
And if the spam includes a link to a website which is ad-based the user doesn't even need to hand over his credit card number to make the spam worthwhile.
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You should reason the opposite way.
Knowing that spam gives benefit. Who are the people who fall on all those traps and how could we help them not to?
In the terribly elegant words of... someone? (Score:5, Informative)
You can't fix stupid.
Re:In the terribly elegant words of... someone? (Score:5, Funny)
Yes you can. Smith&Wesson released their first debugging tool for it over a century ago. The application remains illegal for some odd reason I don't really understand.
Re:In the terribly elegant words of... someone? (Score:5, Funny)
Yes you can. Smith&Wesson released their first debugging tool for it over a century ago. The application remains illegal for some odd reason I don't really understand.
Ah yes, the original 'point and click' interface for remotely managing stupid.
And it is illegal now you say? My apologies but from the place I hide to avoid stupid, we don't get many updates on all these new fangled laws.
Re:In the terribly elegant words of... someone? (Score:5, Funny)
Yes you can. Smith&Wesson released their first debugging tool for it over a century ago. The application remains illegal for some odd reason I don't really understand.
Ah yes, the original 'point and click' interface for remotely managing stupid.
And it is illegal now you say? My apologies but from the place I hide to avoid stupid, we don't get many updates on all these new fangled laws.
It probably violates Amazon's one-click patent.
Mod parent funny (Score:2)
I posted in this thread to undo a moderation misclick. That has wiped my 'Funny' moderation of my parent's post. Sorry. Someone please mod parent Funny :)
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Nannystate, what did you expect?
What happened to the land of the free when you can't simply shoot anyone anymore?
Re:In the terribly elegant words of... someone? (Score:5, Funny)
Mod parent funny :) (Score:2)
Sorry for moderating you overrated. I meant to click 'Funny'. Posting to undo.
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Hmm. I'm not sure that destroying something really qualifies as fixing it...
Aw whatever, it's all semitic or antisemantics or something. Yee haw!! *pow pow*
Re:In the terribly elegant words of... someone? (Score:4, Informative)
Hmm. I'm not sure that destroying something really qualifies as fixing it...
Dunno, but we'll soon see, there's an experiment with this method currently being tested on our economy.
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You can't fix stupid.
-Ron White [youtube.com]
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You can't fix stupid.
Ignorance != stupidity.
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how can the amount of effort expended in creating spam compare to the amount of money they receive from suckers who click on "V1AGRA!11!!" links?
You're saying you don't know anybody who clicks on ads because they read "Click Here" ?
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..your link doesn't work :(
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That said, bulk email is very 1999, and the spammers know it. The real goal these days is to try to get as many systems out there connected to botnets as possible and try to "force feed" as many people with spam as they possibly can. The key is to fashion emails
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Actually, you don't need logical deduction to correctly sort most emails. Just say "spam" every time, and most of the time you'll be right.
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The article calls out that primarily, bots are used to actually distribute the spam.
Bots are also used for any number of malicious purposes, spam being perhaps the most benign (because it CAN be recognized and discarded).
People have called in this thread for training victims to make spam not pay. This might work for spam bots, but would do nothing for any other type of bot. How about training people to ensure their machine is swept clean of malware on a regular basis, and to keep adequate defenses (AV sof
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Maybe now with a billion samples, we can start training people how to recognize it.
Do you actually know anybody who's ever purchased something from SPAM?
Time to celebrate with a song (Score:2)
Let's celebrate with a song we all know: "Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam..."
Now repeat 1 billion times...
(Sad to think that way more spam has been sent than the number of times that Monty Python sketch has been played; should be the other way around)
Is anybody actually trapped by it? (Score:2)
Their web site claims, "We also work with law enforcement authorities to track down and prosecute spammers." Have they actually prosecuted any spammers using this?
If it helps create better spam filters, yay. But I'd really like to know if any spammers are being punished as well.
The summary is wrong (Score:2, Informative)
The article says clearly:
On Wednesday, December 9, 2009 at 06:20 (GMT) Project Honey Pot received its billionth email spam message
In fact, the title of the article is:
Our 1 Billionth Spam Message
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Thanks for reading TFA and ruining all our fun.
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Only routinely? You must be new here.
Legalize OTC Viagra ? (Score:3, Interesting)
Putting aside for a moment the potential medical issues, I wonder how much money would be saved in the US economy if we just legalized the selling of Viagra over the counter?
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The cost of treating doughy impotent old men for heart attacks caused by Viagra Im sure outweighs this. Its not exactly safe:
http://www.ehow.com/facts_5687205_viagra-risk-factors.html [ehow.com]
If anything, its legal as a script because of the intense demand. I wonder if something thats targeted at old men that also drops heart pressure and causes heart attacks would be tolerated as even sellable if it wasnt for the overwhelming demand to get Mr Pokey up one last time. Pot is safer.
Should have donated my email address (Score:2)
I must get a billion spam in one year. :(
Damn spammers
Cost-benefit (Score:5, Funny)
If you total up all the productivity lost to fighting spam and time wasted getting spam, it's probably cheaper to just put the spammers out of business by giving every male on earth free Viagra.
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I hope they start spamming "Meet hot and horny girls!" more then.
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But how would you contact them? via e-mail? Then how would they know it was legit? Damn spammers!
956 ways? (Score:3, Funny)
viagra can be misspelled many ways
in an email message.
all of them not as direct as
going and using this way of
routing the word around filters,
and not even misspelling it
Re:956 ways? (Score:5, Insightful)
Pare, considering you've been in the "editing" stage since February 2007, perhaps it's time to update your sig to "I've grown tired of making a Low Budget HDV Filipino Horror Movie in NYC" ?
It's not easy being a Viagra spammer... (Score:1, Funny)
They face a lot of STIFF competition!
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Depite all that, they still try to stand up and deliver, with their heads held high.
Not Something to Celebrate (Score:2)
To celebrate,
Personally I think 1 billion spam isn't something to celebrate. "Mourn" is more like it...
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If it helps, this really doesn't sound like much of a celebration:
To celebrate, the team behind the largest community sourced project tracking online fraud and abuse released a full rundown of statistics on the last five years of spam.
Hopefully it won't get too wild.
Where's the list (Score:1)
I've only been able to come up with 796 versions of viagra. I'm sure there must be many more. Can I download the list? It would help in my work^h^h^hhobby...
no ipV6 (Score:4, Interesting)
The most effective way of stopping spam thus far is using IP blacklisting. It should be noted if the net moves to ipV6, that will be the end of blacklist effectiveness for some time.
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Yup, just set your filter to block the range 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255.
Problem solved.
Slashdot requires you to wait between each successful posting of a comment to allow everyone a fair chance at posting a comment. This is because the submission process is so borked, it takes 45 seconds to write a new entry to our database.
Chances are, you're behind a firewall or proxy, or clicked the Back button to accidentally reuse a form. Please try again. Nope, it's just my neurons fire faster than once per minute.
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Why would that be? You can block a /64 just as easily as a single IP address. Sure, each end-user may have 2**64 separate addresses, but they'll all be within the same subnet. If a particular host is misbehaving you can just block their entire /64.
In fact, the lack of ubiquitous NAT should make it easier to block individual hosts without affecting non-offending customers of the same ISP.
I wonder (Score:5, Funny)
I wonder how many of those Viagra spelling variations are valid Perl code...
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More like, one-sixth of the world population are part of a botnet, relaying junk mail for the true spammers.
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