$300 Sci-Fi YouTube Video Lands $30m Movie Deal 315
krou writes "A producer from Uruguay who made a short science fiction film and uploaded it to YouTube has landed a film deal with Sam Raimi's Ghost House worth $300 million. The film, which shows spaceships and giant robots attacking Montevideo, the capital of Uruguay, was made by Fede Alvarez for around $30. 'I uploaded (Panic Attack!) on a Thursday and on Monday my inbox was totally full of e-mails from Hollywood studios,' he said. Alvarez is to develop and direct a film based on one of his ideas, but there is no word yet on the writer."
About time (Score:3, Insightful)
Further proof that Hollywood is running out of good ideas, and must turn to new sources.
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I hate it when robots attack Montevideo. Especially during soccer season.
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I call shenanigans
I uploaded several adult vids and I have yet to hear from the pr0n industry
Re:About time (Score:5, Funny)
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So what's the script for the other 21.3 seconds?
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and why complain where they get their ideas if it is a good film?
For me, this is just an example of it becoming easier for smaller artists/designers/producers etc to be able to show themselves on the world stage, nothing more.
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I didn't say it was a bad thing. Personally, I think it's about time Hollywood recognized that following the same formulas results in the same bad movies.
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almost every movie ever made has been based on another work
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It probably also doesn't include the cost of the render farm needed to render something like that for the big screen. There's a big difference in the number of pixels on a youtube video versus the number of pixels on the silver screen, and while his CGI was very good (better than I've seen even 5 years ago in some Hollywood-produced movies), the audiences have very high expectations for quality. If you're going to render the CGI for a feature-length film made for the big screen on a desktop computer, expect
Not a new idea (Score:5, Funny)
Further proof that Hollywood is running out of good ideas, and must turn to new sources.
It's not even new - it's "War of the Worlds" and "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" mixed together.
The guy did a great job with the special effects, but story wise - meh.
Golloywierd will throw in some hot chick in short shorts and lots of cleavage and it'll make a few hundred million.
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Further proof that Hollywood is running out of good ideas, and must turn to new sources.
It's not even new - it's "War of the Worlds" and "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" mixed together.
The guy did a great job with the special effects, but story wise - meh.
Golloywierd will throw in some hot chick in short shorts and lots of cleavage and it'll make a few hundred million.
Mod parent up and GP down. It's very nicely done, but the only "good idea" here is having the robots attack South America instead of North America this time. Clearly he was doing a tech demo tribute to several large (and mediocre) recent Hollywood movies.
Re:Not a new idea (Score:4, Insightful)
The guy did a great job with the special effects, but story wise - meh.
So... what's your point?
It has no story. Aliens or robots kill humans is not a story and it's been done to death.
It's a very pretty video of a special effects demo.
I'm impressed by the special effects and not impressed by his story telling ability.
I can't think of any other way to put it.
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but, but, he got a movie deal out of it and only spent $300 bucks? what have you done lately?
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Stan Lee, Peter Jackson and many others had trouble getting their alleged fair share of the $$$ from Hollywood.
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Well, I recently got back from the other end of the galaxy after being flung through a wormhole.
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What development do you want him to do in a 5 minute piece?
I guess if his goal was to impress you with his storytelling ability he failed, but if it was to advertise his vision to Hollywood, he succeeded.
Re:Not a new idea (Score:4, Insightful)
Otherwise, point taken.
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I've seen people tell a story with a still photo.
Yes I agree but I've seen really bad movies that are overflowing with plot holes, such as Transformers 2, gross 832,747,337 worldwide making it the third-highest grossing film of 2009 as of October 13, 2009. Hollywood is not an Artistic consortium.
Citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers_2 [wikipedia.org]
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It's a very pretty video of a special effects demo.
Exactly. The special effects rocked. So... what's you're point?
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I'm impressed by the special effects and not impressed by his story telling ability.
Which may be why he was offered a deal to direct while they find another writer.
You Have Wil Wheaton Derangement Syndrome (Score:5, Insightful)
This guy did a great job! 300 bucks, uploaded to Youtube, and he gets a Hollywood gig out it!! It's the Cherished Daydream of half the digital video hacks on this board -- maybe the whole 'Net. And you're going to hate on him because you think it's merely "a very pretty video of a special effects demo."
God bless this sonuvabitch. Let's see you do better.
Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction (Score:5, Funny)
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What makes you think they'd give a rat's ass about New York or Tokyo?
But to answer your question more effectively, when you make a movie you target an audience. A hobbyist would probably aim his audience towards the locality upon which the film is made. (Meaning, if he's in Uruguay, he's going to make a film for Uruguayians).
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A hobbyist would probably aim his audience towards the locality upon which the film is made. (Meaning, if he's in Uruguay, he's going to make a film for Uruguayians).
I am sure you meant:
he's going to make a film for a reasonable amount of money.
I am pretty sure a trip to New York or Tokyo would have blown his $300 budget.
Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction (Score:5, Funny)
No offense intended to the great nation of Uruguay, but why would giant robotic aliens give a rat's ass about Montevideo of all places?
They've been intercepting our interwebs for some time now and as such they've been watching porn from 8thstreetlatinas.net. Like most gigantic robotic overlords they require fresh, nimble, "barely legal" workers for their Energon mines in order to continue to function properly and thus continue to watch even more porn as well as do all those other things that overlords do. Pass pointless laws, monitor the pleebs, protect the children, make deals with other alien overlords, etc.
I know this because I too am a slave of the robotic overlords however, I work in accounting...
Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction (Score:4, Funny)
Dear Sir,
I'm Mr. Finkelstein of Megalith Studios, and we've decided that you're the perfect person to write a script for our new bajillion dollar robot invasion film. This job pays roughly $8/hr.
Re:About time (Score:4, Insightful)
Further proof that Hollywood is running out of good ideas, and must turn to new sources.
Proof that Hollywood has a lot more more to fear from this trend on the internet than than just copyright infringement... the more amateur file makers gain recognition and rewards - the better quality their films will become. Diluting eyeballs and eroding profit margins for Hollywood. Yay!
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What? Other than FX, which hollywood is pretty good at, what exactly does this film show?
That at least one of the barriers to market entry (the cost of producing good FX) is much lower than many people expect. Lower barriers to market entry mean more competition, potentially, which could be good for us lazy consumers either through lowering the cost of our entertainment or, preferably, increasing the variety of it.
Why might it improve variety? Good FX this cheap means there is one less thing standing between some impoverished writer/directer with good ideas and opportunities for him/her to see those ideas brought to fruition without having to involve the big money people who will panel beat the ideas into a lifeless mush designed not to put off any of the lowest common denominator audience by asking them to think and/or feel something they haven't thought/felt many times before from watching the homogenised output the industry is often lambasted for. The FX don't need to be giant robots - if things keep moving this way (and I don't see why they shouldn't) in the near future anyone with the right ideas+talent+time could create a full CGI production (removing set and sound studio expenses and reducing casting issues) of any type, not just SciFi/fantasy.
In short, this guy has achieved something impressive on a very low budget. Given his achievement, even while accepting it isn't perfect by any means, don't you wonder what he and/or other people could do in future with more time+budget?
To his credit... (Score:4, Insightful)
To his credit, the plot of the YouTube video was a lot more interesting than around 80% of the movies that Hollywood does churn out these days.
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Eh.. there's really no new ideas in the YouTube clip. If anything, it's a remake of every other urban destruction movie, but the quality is at least on par with big-budget TV effects. Of course, I'm not sure what Hollywood is expecting from him... there's a big difference between producing your own digital video, and herding a bunch of catty actors while trying to supervise the CGI artists, camera men, editors, etc. and still effectively conveying the story. Someone else's story no less, according to TFA
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A cgi bonanza with an annoying shakeycam and no acting. Truly original, and exactly what Hollywood needs to renew itself!
Missing the point? (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm thinking you're missing the point. If I were Hollywood, I'd be interested in this not because of the plot or the acting, but because the guy made a pretty impressive scene with lots of pretty sophisticated special effects on a shoestring budget.
If I were Sam Raimi, I'd be thinking, "If he can do that for $500, even if $500 is exaggerated and it actually cost him a grand or two, then
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I don't see how this sort of thing isn't a positive development. The filmmaker who made this short is obviously talented. It's not just that the special effects are impressive for such a small budget, but the whole thing is shot pretty well.
I mean, this is kind of what should be happening, right? The movie industry finds talented filmmakers and gives them a chance to work on bigger projects?
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Further proof that Hollywood is running out of good ideas, and must turn to new sources.
Giant alien machines destroy a great city:
H.G. Wells The War of the Worlds,1898.
Radio adaption for Orson Welle's Mercury Theater of the Air, 1938.
Film adaption by George Pal, 1953.
Radio adaptation by WKBW, Buffalo, New York., 1968.
Staged live using live remotes. State-of-the-art tech for an independent AM radio station in the sixties.
Musical adaptation by Jeff Wayne in 1978.
Referenced countless times in every media fro
$30 million (Score:5, Informative)
Both articles mention $30 million, not $300 million.
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I was going to say. Avatar, most expensive film, was just over 300 million. And that led by James Cameron, someone well known and respected. And 10+ years ago, they had waterworld, most expensive at $180 million by Kevin Costner, and they were crapping their pants.
No way they'd give an unknown 300 million for something that vaguely resembles transformers/independence day. It's a decent film and all, but.
I also get tired of films "costing" $300, or there was a story of a decent zombie flick costing $70.
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They probably just confused the currency with the dollar from 10 years ago..
Mocking aside, $300m is really improbable and probably wrongly quoted by someone that had a stressed day and therefore hit one unimportant zero too much.
As for resemblance, it's more like a hybrid of "Sky captain and the world of tomorrow" and the game "Supreme commander".
Your third paragraph is a gem though. Yea, he probably spent months if not years on the CG as hobby project. Also contributions and the basic ability to create suc
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That will be enough to pay for one superstar to sit on a stool and be filmed for 90 minutes.
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His original post (Score:3, Informative)
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Well worth watching (Score:2)
If he did this for about $300, its really amazing. The CGI is really nicely done.
Re:Well worth watching (Score:4, Interesting)
I think it's a big studio viral hoax.
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Re:Well worth watching (Score:5, Interesting)
Oh, I clicked one of those hoping that the media had thought the attack was real, War of the Worlds style.
Too bad.
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Yes, I'm curious how he pulled it off. Is it with pirated software and paying his crew 100 pesos a day?
He's in South American so using "pirated" software as you call it is perfectly acceptable.
What I wonder about is why Hollywood just didn't steal his idea they they normally do.
Sam Raimi (Score:5, Funny)
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Agreed. the video was amazing.
this guy deserves a deal.
Here's the video (Score:5, Funny)
Here's the link to the original video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPvmIxu-LSA [youtube.com]
(NFSW language. If you work in a lame place. My co-workers laughed their asses off.)
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It's a joke. Asshole moderators.
Yey! (Score:2)
Real costs (Score:5, Insightful)
As awesome as that video is - and it is pretty damn awesome, let there be no mistake about that - I suspect that it only cost $300 if he's considering the time of himself and his friends to be worth zero. (I'm assuming the group scenes were the result of getting a bunch of buddies together.)
I'd be interested to know how many hours of his own time were spent on that.
However, it is pretty awesome and the mere fact that he can do stuff like that with his limited resources is a sign that he may well deserve that money.
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Re:Real costs (Score:4, Insightful)
It only cost $300. It also had opportunity cost, which is not something that can be calculated reliably. If his other opportunities for that time would all have gained him $0, then his opportunity cost was $0. In this economic climate, that's a distinct possibility.
A.W.E.S.O.M-O (Score:2)
Nice effects - and good first scene (Score:3, Insightful)
How many hundreds of hours does it take to create something like this?
$300 is not the real price (Score:2)
Re:$300 is not the real price (Score:5, Insightful)
That price clearly does not include the value of his time or any number of other things
The value of your time is whatever someone is paying you for it. If nobody is paying you for it, then that time is worth $0. It almost certainly has a non-monetary worth, but you don't add that to your budget tally.
For a direct comparison, when the contractor working on my house bills me for 20 hours at $30, and tells me that he donated 3 hours to fix a mistake he made or because he was being anal retentive about getting something perfect, my bill is $600. Those extra three hours, hypothetically worth $30 each, actually cost $0.
Just call it a hobby project or something, but don't claim it only cost $300.
It certainly was a hobby project, yet I don't see why that means it couldn't have been made for $300. My contractor isn't doing it as a hobby, it's his livelihood, yet the same rules apply.
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The value of your time is whatever someone is paying you for it. If nobody is paying you for it, then that time is worth $0. It almost certainly has a non-monetary worth, but you don't add that to your budget tally.
No, there's this thing called opportunity cost that can be used to value a hobbyist's time. For instance, if I can get $8/hr on Saturdays working at a coffeeshop instead of playing computer games, then it's worth at least $8/hr for me to spend that hour blasting virtual monsters with virtual rockets instead of making tasty espresso for impatient customers.
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So why isn't the time you spend blasting virtual monsters worth $100/hr, since that's how much you could hypothetically make as a prostitute? Because you aren't a prostitute, just like you aren't a Saturday barista?
But in any case, that's only your opportunity cost for not doing anything productive. The fact still remains that your time spent playing video games is worth $0. Nobody is going to pay you to do it.
And for the ultimate point that is relevant to this discussion, which is the cost of making a f
New ideas? (Score:2)
Hollywood couldn't come up with "Giant Robots Attacking A Modern City" ?? I'm not a movie aficionado, but dudes, that's been done before.
Flaming lips on fire off the shoulder of Orion (Score:2)
I was going to say that I was waiting for Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots, the movie, but according to Wikipedia, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshimi_Battles_the_Pink_Robots) there is a Broadway musical in development. So the movie will not be far behind.
And the plot outline looks pretty interesting.
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Dude. That Pink Robots movie has been playing at the cineplex near Tannhäuser Gate for weeks. I went to see it a few nights ago, but was heavily distracted by the glittering c-beams. You should go see it ASAP.
Seth
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (Score:2)
Anyone? Same scene done better in a novel story that was a huge risk in Hollywood.
Yes, it's impressive that the linked video was done on an amateur budget, and congratulations to this guy; I hope he makes millions, but let's not pretend this is original stuff.
Space Invaders (Score:2)
The Movie
PR/Viral marketing? (Score:5, Interesting)
Am I the only one who thinks that the whole situation was setup as a viral marketing/PR stunt? Maybe I'm just naturally distrustful of Hollywood.
It is easier to sell tickets to another run of the mill Sci-Fi movie if it has a story like this behind it.
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Considering that he had a "flood" of offers in his email before most of the world even heard of it? Yeah, I'd say it's a PR stunt.
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Turns out he is a big PR man - check his showreel (Score:3, Insightful)
Turns out he's a big PR agency guy - makes adverts for Pepsi and the like presumably for national prime time tv, for some sized budget. So it's not so much "young art school student and mates make $300 movie and gets lucky" more like "talented, experienced, well connected ad. movie maker in the media business makes fun film in spare time when he's not directing SFX heavy corporate videos and gets a step up to making feature films". More of a case of media people talking to each other than famous director's
Alvarez Doesn't Get 30M (Score:5, Insightful)
The project is budgeted at 30M.
This is Alvarez's first project, probably no agent, definitely no actors attached to it, so they will probably give him an 'advance' and then lots of interdependent if-then conditionals. He won't get any on-screen credits. (That sets off a bunch of payouts the producer normally keeps) Then one of two things happen to a first-time writer/creator.
1. The conditionals are never met. Alvarez keeps his pittance of an advance and makes a little beer money. This is normally how it works for a project off the street.
2. The producer reinterprets the contract or has some sort of magical contractual difficulty with Alvarez if the project is successful. Alvarez then might see his five figures after a few rounds in court and 6-figure legal bills.
Check out the legal wrangling on 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' as an example. According to the producer, that was an 'unprofitable' film. Welcome to business deals in Hollywood.
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AFAICT, generally more common with movies from relatively unknown writers or based on relatively unknown books.
Probably because not even Hollywood would have been stupid enough to, eg, screw JK Rowling over the first Harry Potter film.
Re:Alvarez Doesn't Get 30M (Score:4, Informative)
Just like nobody would ever have been stupid enough to screw Peter Jackson over the Lord of the Rings movies [deadline.com].
Gotcha.
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This is basically what Ghost House did to the Peng brothers on The Messengers. They were off the show once the cameras stopped rolling, and the company hired a ghost director to finish the film.
The producer reinterprets the contract or has some sort of magical contractual difficulty with Alvarez if the project is successful.
That won't happen. If Alvarez has a remotely competent agent he'll push for gross points or none at all, which are a cut of the box office before any expenses. Actors and directors learned their lesson from the recording industry years ago and it's pretty common knowledge that a deal net of expenses is worthless.
What did Raimi see in this guy? (Score:4, Insightful)
Could be someone is pulling a fast one on this guy?
There is nothing in the film that shows any originality or creativity in ideas. It seems like a amateur copy of scenes from "War of the Worlds" and "Independence Day".
So, what did Hollywood Studios see in this guy?
That he can make a hacky special effects film for $300? Even there, anyone can see that if you used the proper accounting methods, the budget was probaly way more than $300. All those crowds running was previously shot and reused dfootage. If he had to perform original shooting of those scenes, the budget would go way over $300. Same goes for the explosions and other special effects. He probably spent a long time on creating those but did not include the dollar value of that time which typically would add thousands of dollars to the film's budget. So, I am not seeing what he brought to the table.
Those fan-created Star Trek episodes have more going for them than this.
Re:What did Raimi see in this guy? (Score:5, Funny)
Even there, anyone can see that if you used the proper accounting methods, the budget was probaly way more than $300.
That's your answer right there. You can't swing a dead cat* in Hollywood without hitting a dozen writers. Mr. Raimi doesn't need any more writers, but creative accountants are gold.
*No actual cats were harmed during this post.
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Even there, anyone can see that if you used the proper accounting methods, the budget was probaly way more than $300.
Since when did anything involving movies ever use proper accounting methods?
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There is nothing in the film that shows any originality or creativity in ideas.
So, what did Hollywood Studios see in this guy?
I think you just answered that yourself :)
The day is coming where we don't need holywood (Score:5, Insightful)
Nice try Slashdot... (Score:2, Funny)
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and in three years (Score:2)
they remake the movie once more.
What about Shane Carruth? (Score:5, Interesting)
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I've watched Primer three times. It's great, but I was wondering if you can PM me and tell me what it's about...
Re:What about Shane Carruth? (Score:4, Funny)
Are there any Uraguayans here? (Score:2)
Why no support for a low budget phillipino horror (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Nice vid and all, but I've seen that movie befo (Score:2)
To be honest, this one looked a lot more realistic, just the fact that none of the airplanes/spaceships seemed to be connected to giant invisible rubber bands that made them bounce around in ways that they simply couldn't without falling apart (or out of the sky). If you have no idea what I'm talking about, just watch a few of scenes with F-18 Hornets in Independence Day and notice how they time and time again "bounce" mid-air, it's the kind of thing anyone with a few weeks of experience with 3D animation w
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"...it's the kind of thing anyone with a few weeks of experience with 3D animation would try to avoid..."
Or they tried to make the movie effects as accurate as possible.
It is called Wind Shear.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_shear [wikipedia.org]
It is the reason people are told to buckle up in airplanes when they are nowhere near landing. Doppler radar can catch it even though it is not visible to the naked eye (unless it contains particles that are visible) and thus the pilots know it is coming. Unbuckled people have be
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He surely isn't factoring in all of the crap he's been accumulating over the last few years in order to put this all together.
Using crap you have lying around is a classic method of saving money when making a movie, even one with a serious budget. Of course you don't factor in the cost of things you aren't paying for.
The $300 maybe would have covered what it cost to pay that lady off to let her kid roll away in the stroller.
Unless he said "Hey want to be in a movie with your kid? There's no money in it." a
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Give the guy a break. If I a produced something like that for 186 quid I would be absolutely ecstatic.