4chan Gives 90-Year-Old Vet a Great Birthday 363
Hugh Pickens writes "Members of 4chan aren't known for doing things that are cute and heart-warming and when they decide to go after someone, it's typically to subject them to ridicule. But not this time. Someone at 4chan decided that the Internet should get together and wish 90-year-old WWII veteran William J. Lashua a happy birthday, and soon Lashua's local branch of the American Legion was deluged by birthday calls from people as far away as Sweden. The account someone set up for Mr. Lashua's birthday on Facebook had 3,956 'likes' and over 500 comments, most of which wished him a happy birthday and thanked him for his military service. It's not clear how 4chan originally came across a photo of Lashua, but a member of the site posted a snapshot of a flyer that was on the bulletin board at a store in Ashburnham, Massachusetts asking for guests to attend the nonagenarian's birthday on at the American Legion hall and the post took off. In contrast to their usual behavior, 4chan members 'were giving him nice phone calls and sending him nice notes' and discouraging those who wanted to do something stupid or mean. 'They were all being.. well, shucks, awful nice.'"
Thank you (Score:5, Insightful)
Thank you William J. Lashua.
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Indeed. Thank you for your service in the LAST WAR that protected American freedoms. Everything post WWII.....well, it's history.
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Shutting down his website a week after every other news blog has featured it? Probably, assuming he has a website.
Is it... (Score:2)
Reddit (Score:5, Informative)
Wow (Score:5, Funny)
4chan being nice?!?
I do believe this was foretold in the bible as one of the signs of the end times.
REPENT!! THEN END IS NIGH!!
Re:Wow (Score:5, Funny)
4chan being nice. Duke Nukem Forever possibly being released soon. Cats and dogs living together.
End of days, my friend. End of days.
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Let me add:
4chan being nice.
Duke Nukem Forever possibly being released soon.
Microsoft supporting open source
Cats and dogs living together.
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PS3 and XBox360? You mean there's no PC version of the iconic PC shooter?
Run, it's a scam!
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I would say the picture in that photo says very emphatically, "leave me the hell alone, especially on my birthday."
Mystery solved.
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http://www.telegram.com/article/20100905/NEWS/9050424/1116 [telegram.com]
He seems happy enough with it.
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4chan being nice?!?
Hmm... I think good PR could spin a lot of their actions as "nice." Their efforts to combat the dangerous cult calling itself "Scientology" for instance aren't exactly greedy and evil. Maybe they're motivated more by a sense of superiority than a sense of justice, but they're still attacking an evil organization.
I haven't heard of 4chan, say, killing puppies or disrupting the flow of natural disaster relief supplies or flooding the gulf of mexico with crude oil. Whether that's because they don't do it or
Re:Wow (Score:5, Funny)
>> they were behind the deepwater horizon spill
Dude, that was Ebaums World.
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Thanks from Italy (Score:2, Interesting)
While WWII might indeed evoke fairly bad memories in those who were actually there, Happy Birthday, and Thank You mr. Lashua.
I live in Italy and if it wasn't for people like you I'd probably speak German or Russian now, and concepts like individuality, freedom of speech, personal rights might be alien or completely twisted in my mind/society.
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> I live in Italy and if it wasn't for people like you I'd probably speak German or Russian now, and concepts like individuality, freedom of speech, personal rights might be alien or completely twisted in my mind/society.
While I agree with what you say, it seems odd that someone from Berlousconi-land would _speculate_ about how "concepts like freedom of speech, personal rights might be alien or completely twisted in my society."
Note that I removed "individuality" and "my mind" from the above. I know seve
Now keep doing it. (Score:2)
The power of 4chan and Anonymous is tremendous. It must be held carefully. This is one good example of how to put this power for good instead of evil.
Ugh. (Score:5, Insightful)
As an oldfag over at 4chan, let me tell you this:
Anonymous does whatever he fucking feels like, whether it is sending an old man birthday cards or bullying a child. There is no rhyme or reason to it because Anonymous is a disorganized swarm made up of people of all ages and cultures. "Anonymous" is a constantly rotating, relatively small sample of a large, global population.
Trying to predict Anonymous is pointless. There is no command structure, no ultimate goal. Most of the activities partaken that affect the outside world start as pet projects of individuals and gain traction through spamming and samefagging (because everyone posts anonymously, it is easy to pretend to be multiple people to take advantage of the group mentality there).
This particular incident was started by someone close to the man in question and spammed endlessly over the course of several days leading up to the event. It was a shameless abuse of /b/ as his personal army, but it succeeded because it was relatively novel and interesting.
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Jaron Lanier, is that you?
Re:Ugh. (Score:4, Insightful)
As an oldfag over at 4chan, let me tell you this:
Anonymous does whatever he fucking feels like, whether it is sending an old man birthday cards or bullying a child. There is no rhyme or reason to it because Anonymous is a disorganized swarm made up of people of all ages and cultures. "Anonymous" is a constantly rotating, relatively small sample of a large, global population.
Trying to predict Anonymous is pointless. There is no command structure, no ultimate goal. Most of the activities partaken that affect the outside world start as pet projects of individuals and gain traction through spamming and samefagging (because everyone posts anonymously, it is easy to pretend to be multiple people to take advantage of the group mentality there).
This particular incident was started by someone close to the man in question and spammed endlessly over the course of several days leading up to the event. It was a shameless abuse of /b/ as his personal army, but it succeeded because it was relatively novel and interesting.
As someone who's been on the internet longer then any of you old or new fags, let me tell you this.
Get off my lawn.
Swear to god, you oldfags, newfags, are a bunch of little girls squabbling in a public message board. Yes, your the big fag, seeing as you can claim your old fag and preach how you, i mean, 4chan isn't this and that, and does what it wants, and no one tells it to do anything because it's not your personal army. yet, somehow, it does do things, because someone got creative on how to spam it in 4chan.
And notice how I'm not posting anonymous? unlike you, i'm not scared to stand behind what I say, right or wrong, i said it.
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And notice how I'm not posting anonymous? unlike you, i'm not scared to stand behind what I say, right or wrong, i said it.
Unless you happen to be the same guy posting a rebuttal to his own anon comment?
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everything the anonymous does is a shameless abuse of something.
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If you were an investment banker, and used your trusted position to deposit a ton of money in his account, it would be a shameless abuse of your authority. What you are doing is less relevant than how in this case.
That said, saying that a /b/ account comes with any level of trust or authority is laughable in itself.
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How is it a 'shameless' abuse to do something nice for an old veteran? Hint: it's not.
It's not nice in the same way robbing a bank to buy him a really nice present isn't. Endless spamming and abuse of a forum, even of such a craptastic place as /b/ is not good behavior and it hardly seems the means justify the ends to give a 90 year old birthday greetings. It might be a fun thing to do once, but I wouldn't want to visit a board where it has caught on. Then again, I don't like hanging out at /b/ anyway so what do I know...
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Oh god shut the fuck up. He's right, Anonymous is unpredictable. What the hell part of his post made you think that he gives a fuck what Anonymous does, or that he was in the least bit annoyed? He is annoyed with YOU morons who seem to think that Anonymous is some sort of "organization." It isn't, it's just a flash mob.
"Shameless abuse of /b/ as his personal army" is a reference to a meme on 4chan. People come to the board with requests often, like "harass this guy because I don't like him" and so on. The standard response to these requests (if they don't sound like fun) is to say "/b/ is not your personal army."
Now kindly pull the stick out of your ass.
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disregard that i suck cocks
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But if someone wants to translate, I'll read it
Another WWII Vet just celebrated his 90th (Score:4, Interesting)
His name is Jack Vaughn.
He was a prize fighter, a diplomat, and the second Director of the Peace Corps.
Read a very interesting story about his life at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Vaughn [wikipedia.org]
Happy Birthday, Jack, from RPCVs around the world.
Re:Another WWII Vet just celebrated his 90th (Score:4, Interesting)
Reddit... ? (Score:5, Informative)
I thought this started out as a post on Reddit - not 4chan. But I could be wrong and certainly don't want to piss off 4chan.
Re:Reddit... ? (Score:4, Informative)
No, you're right. His grandson left a thank-you thread. [reddit.com] /b/ claiming they were going to do something.
You can trace the threads back a few days, Reddit did a LOT more than 4chan in regards to being there IRL, and sending nice gifts. I'd bet it was quite a tiny, minuscule fraction of anon who did anything besides posting in
A drop of honey in a gallon of battery acid (Score:2, Interesting)
And now, every time someone rightly says that 4chan is nothing but a batch of juvenile asshats, they'll trot out this one story as a counterexample.
Re:A drop of honey in a gallon of battery acid (Score:5, Insightful)
And now, every time someone rightly says that 4chan is nothing but a batch of juvenile asshats, they'll trot out this one story as a counterexample.
Well, this one and the ones where they tracked down animal abusers from Youtube videos. Further reading [pcworld.com] if you're interested.
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Pictures (Score:3, Informative)
The event happened yesterday, there are pictures from it. You should have included a link to them: http://imgur.com/a/3Jc87/MP8VI
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Does anyone recognize the tattoo [imgur.com]?
This guy had the distinct luxury of knowing that he was fighting the good fight to stop Crazy Adolph, even if he didn't know all the horror he was up to. He's also something of an internet hero; these guys went to bloody WAR and now we're able to troll/shock/godwin to our gallbladder's content ;)
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4chan is just an Internet Amusement Machine. Anonymous does whatever amuses it.
Sometimes that involves posting pictures of dead cats or trolling 11-year old internet girls who show their boobs on tinychat (see Jessica Slaughter), sometimes that involves wishing an old man a happy birthday or organizing anti-Scientology protests.
I have personally seen Anonymous engage in some unusual behavior. For example, someone recently was asking Anonymous on /b/ to troll a high school kid because his Mom had just died a
Puppy and veterans (Score:2)
While references are difficult given the nature of the 4chan board structure, my understanding is that from the recent "Puppy Thrower" video(the east european girl, not the US soldier of some time ago), several innocent people were outed wrongly, including a 13 yo german girl.
The dynamics from this sort of thing, would be similar to a political party rift. You get those that need to, in g
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Yeah you're wrong. If you are looking any deeper than "because they can" then you are over-analysing.
Phillip.
Oorah for the vets (Score:2)
Not as unlikely as you think. (Score:4, Informative)
I know a most of the news stories that mention 4chan are generally in the negative, but people in that community do tend to do a lot of good, and much of it is rarely publicized. People attribute Anonymous to this large collection of like-minded individuals doing whatever they please but it's really couldn't be further from the truth. "Anonymous" is a loose many-minded collection of individuals who don't agree with each other. You'll get those trying to harass others and many stepping in to stop it, and you'll get those trying to do good and many stepping in trying to stop it.
Gatecrashers (Score:4, Informative)
It only seems nice until you realise that William J Lashua's family specifically asked [reddit.com] that random strangers do NOT show up. It was an event reserved for family and friends, and the internets basically gatecrashed what was supposed to be an old man's birthday party.
It made me think of this (Score:5, Insightful)
Ferengi rule of acquisition #76 Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies.
summary is wrong (Score:3, Informative)
The summary is wrong. No one is a member of /b/.
misled (Score:5, Insightful)
This guy did not need the handout, the poster was more or less a joke/notice to let the many people that do know him they should come to his party. The very fact he knows so many people was the reason for the notice, it was the most practical way to notify the large number of people he knows.
If the guy was a "lonely old man with no friends left", do you think he would book out a town hall to hold his party?
http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/d9zmp/dear_internet_on_behalf_of_the_lashua_family_i/ [reddit.com]
"He has 7 children, many grandchildren, and even great grandchildren. In his younger years he was a foster parent to dozens of foster children."
I can't help but think these donations and effort could have been directed to people more in need.
Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Funny)
Offering praise to 4chan for this is like cheering for a 14 year old kid who just figured out how to not shit in his pants.
Re:4chan gets it wrong again... (Score:5, Insightful)
He risked his life for your right to be an asshole.
Re:4chan gets it wrong again... (Score:5, Funny)
He risked his life for your right to be an asshole.
And remember, a right not exercised is a right lost!
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He risked his life for your right to be an asshole.
Wow! Well said.
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Isn't it nice to know that his risk wasn't in vain?
Re:4chan gets it wrong again... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Truth is rarely popular.
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Re:4chan gets it wrong again... (Score:5, Insightful)
I think you'll find pretty much all of Europe appreciates the US war effort, we consider them liberators. The countries of the Axis generally consider their part in WWII a dark chapter of their history. But some people bug me when they pretend the US valiantly and selflessly threw itself into battle for freedom and justice. The US only entered WWII after Pearl Harbor, it was forced into the war and it's all speculation what would have happened otherwise but it is far from certain the US would have come to our rescue. At the end of the war the allied forced rushed to take land just as much to not give it to the Soviet Union and communism as to liberate Europe. Certainly something we should be grateful for, but hardly selfless. Likewise when they speak of US losses, the US brought lots of military might that was crucial but it was Europeans doing most of the dying. Of course those people were dying for their country while the US forces were mostly dying for someone else's country, but it's also a bit like a person who lost his toes complaining to a guy who had to amputate both legs. But that beef is with all those that commentate in retrospect, full respect to each and every one of those who picked up a gun and went to fight for us. Each man has only one life and he put his on the line for us. A very happy 90th birthday to him.
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Re:4chan gets it wrong again... (Score:5, Interesting)
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he refers to nazi habits of firing to jews randomly. there are separate accounts of such scenes. If you however prefer shooting all deniers that's perfectly fine for his point.
As for denial, one victim is enough already. That settles it. Let them talk on the details as they want, they are details.
A society which makes you a culprit for giving your warped version of history instrad of the 99.99% likely warped official one is a fascist one. As long as you do not incite others to do crimes your speech oughta be free. In that regard your post is worse than holocaust denial.
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Of course that's not to say the action was "selfless". Roosevelt understood, more than the public the importance of keeping Britain from being conquered. It is rare that any action in international relations is "selfless" (and when selfless acts are committed they are always minor and occasionally disasters), but the support the USA gave to Europe during WWII and the cold war is probably as close as you'll get.
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I think you'll find pretty much all of Europe appreciates the US war effort, we consider them liberators. The countries of the Axis generally consider their part in WWII a dark chapter of their history. But some people bug me when they pretend the US valiantly and selflessly threw itself into battle for freedom and justice. The US only entered WWII after Pearl Harbor, it was forced into the war and it's all speculation what would have happened otherwise but it is far from certain the US would have come to our rescue.
I think that it's very important to keep apart the U.S. (the country) motivation for its foreign policy and participation in WW2, and the effort of every individual American soldier who fought in that war. Politics may be dirty, but I very much doubt that Americans fighting on the ground and breaking open concentration camps really thought "we'd really leave these guys rot if Germans didn't attack us first, and we didn't have to hold back the Soviets". Maybe a few really did - you never know - but by defaul
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"Likewise when they speak of US losses, the US brought lots of military might that was crucial but it was Europeans doing most of the dying."
Actually, it was the Russians who did most of the dying. But other than that, fair point.
Re:4chan gets it wrong again... (Score:5, Informative)
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Many people in the U.S. prior to WW2 wanted the U.S. to remain neutral, keep to itself, mind its own business. Look what that led to. Now many people in other countries want the U.S. to keep to itself, mind its own business.
Many people in other countries want the U.S. to keep invading countries. In WW2, it was reversed - many people wanted the US to stop one country from invading the other countries. It's a perfectly sensible position so long as you take it for granted that invading countries (except in response to another invasion) is a bad thing regardless of who does it.
Re:4chan gets it wrong again... (Score:4, Insightful)
Let's not get off-track on what's being talked about. The GP was talking about Pre-war vs post-war. We won't discuss any kind of rights adjustments and such that have happened separate from that. Just to clarify though, if you are American, you have more rights now than you did in 1945 (the last year of the war). If you need them pointed out, you reallly need to re-examine that era.
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I don't know how old you are, but I currently have less freedom of speech and other rights than I did 30 years ago. And that's mostly on account of people born to William Lashua's generation and their misuse of the US military.
Ah, but you also forget that most of these people who have misused the military either "had other priorities" than serving their country and used their connections to get repeated deferments, [slate.com] claimed they had a boil on their asses that prevented them from serving, [snopes.com] or got a cushy air force position and then went AWOL when even that was too hard. [awolbush.com]
Mr. Lashua's a hero and deserving of respect. Save your (justified, right, correct, and intelligent) scorn for the clowns screaming "Support Our Troops" while runnin [usatoday.com]
Re:4chan gets it wrong again... (Score:5, Informative)
Instead of wasting mod points on you, I'll just tell you:
It was for his BIRTHDAY. His birthday was yesterday, not on November 11.
What part of "birthday party" do you not get? (Score:2)
Re:4chan gets it wrong again... (Score:4, Interesting)
Perhaps he was like my now deceased grandfather who didn't care for an annual reminder of having been involved in the island hopping of the US at the tender age of 17 nor the glorification and magnification of violence as the answer to world problems.
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Talked to him about it 50 years after the war was over. First and last time he talked about some of that stuff. Whether I'd want to hug him for it is immaterial; he didn't want the reminder. At all.
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It's his fucking birthday.
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Re:4chan gets it wrong again... (Score:4, Funny)
You fucking douchebag.
Hey, c'mon, be nice. Before saying something that might be hurtful, first ask yourself - WWFD*?
*What Would 4chan Do?
Re:4chan gets it wrong again... (Score:4, Funny)
You know, those goofy fucks over at 4chan have always been pretty decent to me. Last year, they pitched in and bought me a nice box cake for my birthday.
They made me sign up for some weird sessions, though, where I have to hold these two tin cans connected by wire to a little meter. Supposedly it's going to get rid of some bad feelings or something from my brainpan. I didn't understand the mumbo jumbo because I'd drunk half-a-box of burgundy before going to the first session.
At least they said they were from 4chan.
Re:4chan gets it wrong again... (Score:5, Funny)
Direct the 4chan Party Van to their driveway
That sounds like a reality TV show waiting to happen.
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need a link, need an article. EPIC.
Re:But tomorrow... (Score:5, Informative)
Maybe this one.. but its old:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,253959,00.html [foxnews.com] (Linking to Faux news feels so odd)
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That is epic. (:
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Your backwards smiley threw me for a loop there. Yes that is epic.
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I take it this is a cover-your-ass "No, officer, I've been documenting" it?
Ask Pete Townsend how well that went.
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To paraphrase Spider Jerusalem:
Imagine an underground nightclub full of perverts and freaks and people with sexual organs you didn't know existed. Imagine you're standing in that nightclub and the time comes to vote for what you're all going to do that night. You vote to watch television, and everyone else, as far as the eye can see, votes to rape you with switchblades. That's 4chan. You're welcome.
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Think about it... Have they attacked anyone who hasnt deserved it?
LOL
In b4 habbo
Re:Doesnt seem odd to me. (Score:5, Insightful)
Hang out on
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Keep the needless trolling online only.
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Anon only attacks those who deserve it or when public ridicule is in order.
You've never been on 4chan, have you? They most certainly HAVE gone after people that didn't deserve it.