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Yahoo! To Close Delicious 311

Thwomp writes "A leaked internal presentation from Yahoo shows that Delicious, the popular bookmark sharing site, will be wound down. According to Daring Fireball's John Gruber the whole team was let go just yesterday. It appears that Delicious is just one of the services in Yahoo's portfolio that is going the way of the Dodo."
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Yahoo! To Close Delicious

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  • by xmas2003 ( 739875 ) * on Thursday December 16, 2010 @07:23PM (#34581544) Homepage
    Tech Crunch [techcrunch.com] and All Things D. [allthingsd.com] Sounds like the Yahoo folks aren't too happy about the word leaking out - "whoever it is, gone! [businessinsider.com]

    With Yahoo shutting down Del.icio.us [del.icio.us], where will we bookmark things such as these delicious Christmas Lights [komar.org] ... HO-HO-HO! ;-)
    • by timeOday ( 582209 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @07:30PM (#34581638)
      Maybe somebody leaked is because they were already [eweek.com] "gone." Giving 4% of the company a pink slip for their Christmas "bonus" probably affected morale somewhat. Just guessing.
      • by Cryacin ( 657549 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @09:07PM (#34582674)
        Can someone tell me exactly when Yahoo! stopped being synonymous with the expression of glee, and became an adjective describing the people running the company?
        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          by Megane ( 129182 )
          Can someone tell me exactly when Yahoo [wikipedia.org] stopped being synonymous with vile and savage creatures, with filthy and with unpleasant habits, and became an expression of glee?
        • IMHO that's when they stuck some hollywood exec (Semel) in who knew nothing about the internet in 2001.

          ISTM he was so enamored by AOL buying Time Warner he changed Yahoo from being the epitome fo the internet into a AOL-wanabe-clone.

          This is the guy who turned down the chance to buy Google for one billion dollars; and then again for 3 billion; and the same guy who shared Yahoo confidential info with China's government.

          Yahoo's Geocities could have been Facebook+MySpace.
          Yahoo Mail could have been gmail.
          Yahoo's Delicious could have been stumbleupon+twitter+digg.
          Yahoo's Overture could have been Google Adsense+Adwords
          Yahoo's Altavista could have been google search.

          But instead Yahoo's turning into little more than a reseller of Bing search results.

    • by socz ( 1057222 )
      aww that's awesome! thanks
    • by MoxFulder ( 159829 ) on Friday December 17, 2010 @03:20AM (#34584690) Homepage

      ... Delicious and Flickr. They just killed Delicious, and I'm hoping Flickr isn't so far behind.

      I used to use Yahoo Mail, which was a great webmail service for its time... in 2000. I also used Yahoo Auctions until that folded. Before Google, I relied on the human-assisted Yahoo Directory for my web searches. I liked Yahoo Games, when they didn't have much besides pool and scrabble and word games.

      But all of Yahoo's services have turned into ad-laden, bloated interfaces with out-of-date technology. It seems that the company has been unable/unwilling to innovate and has just been milking their previously respected brand for ad revenue. Flickr and Delicious were the only two services that seemed to resist this trend :-/.

      I guess it's time to export my Delicious bookmarks and find an alternative host for them :(. SimPy and Del.irio.us used to be a couple of pretty nice open-source clones, but seem to have disappeared. Anybody else have a recommendation for a site with similar functionality, clean interface, and good browser addon support?

  • There are no words.
    • by lhaeh ( 463179 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @08:04PM (#34582050)

      From looking at the leaked slide, they are getting rid of Altavista which has more meaning for me. Delicious as just another Web 2.0 company, but Altavista was an early pioneer on the web and could have easily been what Google is now.

      • The real tragedy here is the destruction of the community. Altavista has no more value to me, but with delicious I know I can bounce over and check out what my friend Bob bookmarked about Ruby in 2006 or look at the history of annotations to a URL. That data will become inaccessible to me & I'll likely loose contact with some people I only follow through delicious.

        • The real tragedy here is the destruction of the community.

          Welcome to the new, improved, consolidated Internet. Prepare for a lot more communities to die if we don't get Net Neutrality.

          And yes, this does have something to do with Net Neutrality.

          • Not sure quite where you're headed with that note.

            This seemed to me to be more about "corporate boredom" aka ROI calculations. Put another way, it's like the blockbuster mentality of movies.

            I liked the Long Tail mood of the net for a long time. Get an idea, and sure enough, a 40 person forum already existed for it.

            Now these megacorps are closing down iconic net stuff, *instead of giving someone else a chance to spin it off*.

      • by Mana Mana ( 16072 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @09:54PM (#34583084) Homepage

        Are you kidding? Yes AV was the first major search engine but you seem to forget or be ignorant of how it sold search positions AND how it bragged to the IT media how AV was farsighted, how that approach was the way forward, and only a fool could think otherwise. That and untargeted display advertisement was their doom. Now you say that's 20/20 hindsight thinking, but, here on /. concurrently it was discussed and highlighted how their approach was completely wrong and how time would prove it so. And it came to pass, and not too long afterward the ascendancy among geeks of alternative engines was apparent. I have no love lost nor nostalgia for them, their results sucked hard at the time, we were all fed up with their bad quality never mind the paid results.

        Their domain was disconnected for years and sold repeatedly at base prices. They tried to come back as an mp3 engine for a while but then the mafiaa got into the ass kicking game.

  • by frovingslosh ( 582462 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @07:27PM (#34581600)

    According to Daring Fireball's John Gruber the whole team was let go just yesterday.

    Merry Xmas from Yahoo.

    • Please don't worry (Score:5, Insightful)

      by hannson ( 1369413 ) <hannson@gmail.com> on Thursday December 16, 2010 @08:44PM (#34582458)
      Your bookmarks and data will be "safe" in the cloud.
    • by macraig ( 621737 ) <[moc.liamg] [ta] [giarc.a.kram]> on Thursday December 16, 2010 @09:00PM (#34582602)

      Can you think of a better time to do it? That's some bonus checks that didn't get inked. The savings probably went straight to the CEO's belly.

    • So a company should keep loss-making people on longer just because it's Christmas? Sure it's a cold thing to have to do, but spending extra tens of millions of dollars just to be nice in difficult economic times is something I doubt just about any one of us would do either in the same position.

      • A few weeks more or less after five years is not a big deal. Del.icio.us was hardly the cause of Yahoo's losses nor a large fraction thereof. Yahoo's problems go quite a bit farther.
      • by hairyfeet ( 841228 ) <bassbeast1968 AT gmail DOT com> on Thursday December 16, 2010 @09:37PM (#34582938) Journal

        Or maaaaybe...oh I don't know, this is just a thought, I'm just tossing it out here....but maybe they should try to actually do something with the businesses they acquire instead of letting them stagnate almost from the moment of purchase, ala AOHell? If you want to know why Yahoo is on life support, it is quite easy to explain, it is because every damned time they bought a company it spelled DOA for whatever corp they touched. They purchase a property and then almost from that moment there is ZERO promotion, ZERO improvements, and ZERO support. It is like they went on a buzzword bingo scavenger hunt and whenever they bought the next buzzword heavy product they just checked off a box and moved on.

        So while it sucks they were let go on Xmas, really they should have been looking for a job the second they became part of the Yahoo "family". Because with anybody with eyes would have noticed Yahoo has been trying to give AOL a run in the "what were we supposed to do with this again?" stupidity business for quite awhile now.

      • Please, if you are going to close a money-losing operation, you can do it in november. Why keep it going just another couple of weeks?

        Now, if another couple of weeks makes no difference, then close it down after Xmas

  • As far as social bookmarking sites go I think StumbleUpon was a clear favorite, though Digg and Reddit seemed to be very similar to how Delicious was setup, I wonder who will "win" in the end...actually, I really don't care.

    • by Winckle ( 870180 )

      Digg is collapsing.

    • Stumbleupon is a good one but Delicious seemed to have more variety in certain tags (eg. anime) and really if you used http://delicious.com/tag/nameoftag?random=1 [delicious.com] you'd get a decent channel surfing bookmark right there. Every time you visit that bookmark, it'd redirect to a random page from that (nameoftag replaced w/ tag) tag. Well I guess I'd better start thumbing the hell out of what is worth stumbling before it's all gone.

    • by Kelson ( 129150 ) *

      They're not quite the same, though. Delicious has always been at least in part about personal use: Sure, it would be cool if someone else saw this neat site I bookmarked and also liked it, but really I'm posting it so that I can find it myself later, since I might not be on the same computer.

      Reddit, Digg, and StumbleUpon, however, are very much about promotion^H^H^H^H^Hsharing, and if you post things just for your own use, they'll get treated as junk or spam.

    • by Reilaos ( 1544173 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @08:20PM (#34582216) Homepage

      I didn't think of Digg nor Reddit really in the same was as I looked at Delicious. Delicious was where I'd shove articles and the like which I found interesting, but wouldn't revisit often enough to warrant space on my browser's bookmark bar.

      Digg and Reddit were places for 'news' and such. You'd put things you'd suspect others would like, as opposed to say, bookmarking the javadoc to a plugin API, or a deal on a particular gadget you've been looking at. I didn't think of those two as a bookmarking service.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Seumas ( 6865 )

      I'm confused by your statement. I don't see a way in which Delicious is anything like StumbleUpon, Digg, and Reddit? Those sites are link-spam sites with comment threads attached to them. Delicious was a database of your bookmarks, online that you could categorize, tag, and utilize just like a bookmark (most browsers have an extension to allow it to replace your actual bookmarks). You could also view other people's bookmarks and view the current most popular (or simply most recent) bookmarks of the entire

  • now.. (Score:5, Funny)

    by PixetaledPikachu ( 1007305 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @07:29PM (#34581626)
    Let's hope Yahoo will buy facebook next
    • I'll second that. Take them and their douche of the year too! Say, if Yahoo is laying off so many people, why are they trying to hire contractors and such? I keep getting calls about doing admin work for them, but I'm not the type of rat that jumps onto a sinking ship...

      • Say, if Yahoo is laying off so many people, why are they trying to hire contractors and such?

        Because of uncertainty [foxnews.com] about the future:

        This is the first entirely "temporary help service" job recovery. Our current "recovery" might be in its seventeenth month, but the few new private sector jobs have come from companies temporarily hiring staff on a contract basis. What were once jobs reserved for people hired to cover seasonal demand or permanent employees on sick leave have become the standard employment for many workers. Companies simply don't want the risk of hiring workers that they might soon have to get rid of. Since the recovery started in June 2009, the total number of private sector jobs has increased by 203,000. But these weren't "regular," permanent jobs. Indeed, permanent private sector jobs fell by 257,000.

        The explanation behind temporary job creation is pretty simple: uncertainty.

    • by he-sk ( 103163 )

      [ I like ]

    • Re:now.. (Score:5, Funny)

      by MrEricSir ( 398214 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @08:04PM (#34582056) Homepage

      I hope Yahoo will buy Yahoo.

  • man (Score:5, Funny)

    by j00r0m4nc3r ( 959816 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @07:29PM (#34581632)
    This leaves a bad taste in my mouth
  • I hadn't heard of it anyway - it looks like just a collection of random links people post; kinda like slashdot except without the banal comments. WTF? Guess I'll make a clone and sell it to Google next year, muahahaha!

    • Re:What is it? (Score:5, Informative)

      by mazumi ( 1960366 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @07:40PM (#34581780)
      To put it simply, it's a social bookmarking site. It was great though because it integrated with Firefox in such a way that for me, it totally replaced the native bookmarking function. The site had a very simple UI too. And because all the bookmarks are databased I'm able to access them from anywhere. You can also tag and cross-reference the links you bookmark. I have dozens of recipes saved on Delicious, and almost every night I'll access them on my smartphone while I'm cooking or baking. I am really, really disappointed that Delicious is going away.
      • by afidel ( 530433 )
        If you're a google user then there's a google bookmarks marklet [marklets.com] that allows you to quickly add sites to your google bookmarks from any browser and there's a widget [google.com] for igoogle that makes it fairly easy to use.
    • del.icio.us is one of the best research tools on the Internet, -- especially for keeping abreast of innovations in the programming world.

      It works like this:

      You're working on text processing in Python, or something. So you search delicious for "python" and "textprocessing."

      You go through the results, most of which are fairly generic.

      But when you find something interesting -- you don't stop there: You ask, "Who was this person who thought this was interesting?"

      Then you look at *that person's* tags under "Py

  • by Monoman ( 8745 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @07:32PM (#34581660) Homepage

    I like delicious and the FF toolbar to manage all of my bookmarks. Can we have some replacement suggestions?

    • Personally I use Google Bookmarks. Fairly, simple but enough for my needs. Furthermore I like to have them associated with my google account. I manage them with "Yet Another Google Bookmarks Extension" for Chromium.

      • The question is, I don't like to have yet another service tied up to a Google account, for two reasons; first, I am afraid my account may be suspended - happened already - and then I lose my bookmarks as well - which were real handy when Google screwed up my account. Secondly, I have and use more than one account and don't want my bookmarks to be tied up to one. To make things worse, I use three browsers (Firefox, Chrome, and Safari) so a browser specific bookmarking tool won't do it. Any other suggestions?
        • by Kelson ( 129150 ) *

          To make things worse, I use three browsers (Firefox, Chrome, and Safari) so a browser specific bookmarking tool won't do it. Any other suggestions?

          At the risk of repeating myself: Xmarks. It'll sync Firefox, Chrome, Safari and IE.

    • I use XMarks [xmarks.com] to synchronize across different computers and browsers. They were actually going to shut down next month, but an outpouring of support from users convinced LastPass it would be worth buying the company and setting up a freemium model (basic service is free, you can pay for extras). Free accounts get automatic bookmark sync and online access to the bookmarks from other browsers. Premium accounts add Android & iPhone apps, tab sync, and a couple of other things.

      Most web browsers have some so

    • I like delicious and the FF toolbar to manage all of my bookmarks. Can we have some replacement suggestions?

      Use Chrome? Sync is built-in, and will only improve as google continues to develop for ChromeOS.


  • Some of the 600 cut from Yahoo, I guess. Not too surprises how many bookmarking/aggregating sites do you need?

    Best of luck to them, tough economy out there.

    • Not too surprises how many bookmarking/aggregating sites do you need?

      Just one, and it's been del.icio.us for around 5 years or so.

  • by Locke2005 ( 849178 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @07:35PM (#34581700)
    You mean hunted into extinction because they were Delicious?
  • by dex22 ( 239643 ) <[moc.liamg] [ta] [resucitsalp]> on Thursday December 16, 2010 @07:40PM (#34581782) Homepage

    Yahoo must have decided the bad publicity of making people redundant right before Christmas was still less than the cost of keeping them on the payroll for one more month.

    Low, Yahoo!

  • by vlueboy ( 1799360 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @07:55PM (#34581950)

    It is beginning to be a problem that Yahoo is dying slowly. First, they started compressing pictures that used to be fullsized in their popular "Groups" 10 years ago. Then, they started removing Briefcases. Last year, I had to review my Geocities files for anything important before they removed it. This year, their Hotjobs service got merged with Monster.com, so I'll lose my account there too.

    I use Yahoo mail to get around the all-too-popular mailbox purge that the more "hip" webmails use. That is to avoid being forced into a paywall when I stop checking mail. Seeing that they are downsizing and the frequency of their cuts is increasing, I'm have to move all 12 years' worth of my mail and profile data elsewhere before it dies. I don't want it to be warningless like when WHQuestion closed down and everyone migrated to KnowPost but lost all their pictures, answers and intersting conversations with other great minds. I don't want my posts and attachments here to go the same way. Sadly, two more years like that and Yahoo will surely be dead, like Altavista. Funny thing is, I just found out Yahoo owns them now. Acquisitions don't always mean the old clients stay with the new boss, which might be Google or something, and my data will be open for a greater evil then.

    Now that I think about my knowledge of Facebook, wiping Yahoo data now won't help keep it safe; "delete" doesn't exist when there's money to be made off of my time.

  • by crf00 ( 1048098 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @08:01PM (#34582010) Homepage
    This is the dumbest move I see Yahoo doing, for shutting down the only Yahoo product left that is ACTUALLY USEFUL. (besides Flickr, but I don't use it anyway)

    Seriously I am horrified and disappointed if this decision is for real. I have over 300 bookmarks stored in Delicious, and Delicious has been an extremely useful search engine for me. Because the search is based on social tagging that has gone through by human mind, Delicious is far more powerful than even Google for generic terms search, especially for single term queries that are too generic to return any useful results from other search engines. I don't know why such a useful site has become so less popular, but I believe it is just largely due to the lack of marketing and ignorance by Yahoo since the acquisition.

    So far I don't know any other social bookmarking site that is better than Delicious. Perhaps I should start searching [delicious.com], but if anyone here in Slashdot knows one, please do tell me.

    Anyway for those who are desperate like me to backup their Delicious bookmarks, here is the export link [delicious.com].
    • Probably because of the stupid name ("delicious"? Really?), and the silly domain name they had at the start.
      • Yeah, good point. No website with a stupid, non-intuitive domain name was ever successful [slashdot.org].
      • by Alex Zepeda ( 10955 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @09:35PM (#34582920)

        Probably because Yahoo! ran them into the ground. That's what Yahoo! does. They buy things (they don't innovate) and ruin them. They're like a smaller, hipper Microsoft.

        I use Flickr, Delicious, and probably a few other things that are Yahoo brands. They've actively meddled with Flickr making the UI worse with each revision. Instead of focusing on reliability and core features, they've added a bunch of asinine bling. With Delicious they've merely left it alone to rot for the most part. Actually I'm fairly surprised that they're shutting Delicious down because they just pushed a UI update in the past month or so. I rather liked Delicious because it let me synchronize my bookmarks across different browsers and because it let me categorize my bookmarks easily.

        As far as I'm concerned, this is further proof that Carol Bartz is a first class asshole who knows shit for all about running a business. Sure, the stockholders were pissed when Jerry Yang refused to sell out to Microsoft but at least Yang had decent reasons (preserving the brand identity and corporate culture) for doing what he did. Bartz is just another short-term profits first type CEO. Like Fiorina, Hurd, and Nardelli, Bartz thinks her slash and burn style is a one-size fits all type thing when in fact it's a one-size fits none.

    • This is the dumbest move I see Yahoo doing, for shutting down the only Yahoo product left that is ACTUALLY USEFUL.

      Actually useful (for you) does not imply actually profitable (for Yahoo!)

      • I suspect that the vast majority of users put bookmarks there to drive traffic to their sites, not because it is otherwise particularly useful.
        • I have been using delicious for a very long time. I have almost a thousand bookmarks collected over the past 5 years. I use it to tag things that I find interesting and will want to reference later, as a search engine to explore tags and find relevant sites when I'm getting interested in a new subject, and to be able to reference bookmarks from work or any other computer I find myself at. I have not seen much spam at all; the only time I ran into links that were obviously spammy was when checking out porn

  • Quote From Daring Firewhatnot:
    "It’s almost hard to remember now, but just a few short years ago, Yahoo was the place for hot startups to find a home."

    You mean Yahoo was the company with money to burn buying into hokey startups (exception for Delicious and a *few* others I'm sure).

  • Nothing says success like jettisoning every non-essential part of your portfolio and abandoning your greatest assets -- staff -- a week before Christmas.

  • I have been using del.icio.us for years - I actually have a fair amount of stuff in it.

    Guess I will have to figure out how to reclaim that. I added a couple of sites just this week.

    Too bad, all of the "cool" stuff just gets left for dead by these companies. If yahoo fucks with Flickr, we will have to have words, I use that thing all the time.

  • I didn't want to use del.icio.us, because by the time I started using social bookmarking, it was already owned by Yahoo!, and I specifically wanted something that might have been independent.

    So I started using ma.gnolia. Awesome, fast service with nice little features and general Web 2.0-friendliness all around. They just failed to make working backups. Boom.

    So I started using Twine. Leet folksonomic RDF-what-the-fuckery. Slowish. Yawn. Never quite figured out if it was possible to import bookmarks there. A

  • Do we have any actual sources other than a random blogger, a random tweet from a random twit, and a friend of a friend?

    • by Un pobre guey ( 593801 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @09:09PM (#34582686) Homepage
      I overheard this guy over at the Starbucks in Sunnyvale about a half a mile from Yahoo, and he said some chick told another guy in line that her friend got really drunk the night before and the guy she ended up with in a bathroom stall (she didn't know his name) in The City said he knew a girl who used to work at Yahoo that was still seeing a guy from AMD who was buying a sandwich at one of those places near Lawrence and Arques about a month ago and he thought he heard some Indian guys at a table talking about how some chick was totally fucked up at an office party and was telling everyone how she heard some older guys in suits in a parking lot bragging about how they got blown by some girl who claimed she worked at Yahoo and said that she heard they were thinking about laying a few people off.

      That's almost first hand info, Dude.
  • by petsounds ( 593538 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @08:57PM (#34582582)

    If this is not a tailor-made argument for not trusting cloud-based services, I don't know what is. I don't care how "do no evil" your corporation-of-choice is; you're in their playground. They make the rules and break the rules at their whim (or the government's whim).

    Export your bookmarks while you still can: curl --user petsounds:sebad0h -o delicious_bookmarks.xml -O 'https://api.del.icio.us/v1/posts/all'

    • You don't even have to ascribe evil intent here. All companies eventually die (except for banks that are "too big to fail", that is). Why trust your computing resources to an entity that might last as long as you?

    • by butlerm ( 3112 )

      It makes a bit of a difference whether you actually pay for a cloud based service or not. If something is free, you can't really complain when it goes away. Gift horse, mouth, etc.

      • The idea that any cloud-based service is free is a bit of a misnomer I think. Any time you post data to one, you trade the use of the service for insight and/or facts about your life.

  • Yahoo to close! Delicious.
  • Just look it up the delicious tag and you get 269086 Bookmarks [delicious.com]!

  • They all joined a new nation of the Laid Off.
  • Can't they just sell the site to another company?
  • In the future, the usual web host will be anonymous, have sql/php, be untrackeable.
  • by jabberw0k ( 62554 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @11:09PM (#34583544) Homepage Journal
    Curious this comes just a couple days after RMS warned us about the dangers of entrusting others with our personal or corporate data: http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/14/stallman-cloud-computing-careless-computing/ [techcrunch.com]
  • by Roblimo ( 357 ) on Friday December 17, 2010 @02:30AM (#34584486) Homepage Journal

    Got this notice in my Yahoo email inbox on Dec. 15:

    Dear Yahoo! Video user,

    After careful consideration, we will be removing all general user-generated content upload capability and user-uploaded video from Yahoo! Video. As a result, your videos, user profiles, ratings, favorites, and playlists will no longer be available after March 14, 2011. User video content from Yahoo! Video that remains embedded on third party sites will no longer be playable after March 14, 2011.

    Available on your profile page is a software utility that will allow you to download the videos you have uploaded to Yahoo! Video to your computer through March 14, 2011. You can find your profile by clicking on the 'My Video' tab or going to http://video.yahoo.com/mypage [yahoo.com].

    Once you download your videos, you may choose to upload them to another site such as Flickr, which now allows video uploads. You can find out more here: http://www.flickr.com/explore/video [flickr.com].

    Thanks for your understanding and thanks for being a part of Yahoo! Video.

    If you have any questions about this change, please visit our FAQ section, or contact Customer Care.

    The Yahoo! Video Team

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