Kentucky Man Builds Bourbon Powered Car 190
autospa writes "With fuel prices rising like crazy, a man from Kentucky came up with a solution to high gas prices. 62-year-old Mickey Nilsson, of Bardstown, Kentucky, made a bourbon-powered junk car. He got the idea from the movie Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. Nilsson said that his inspiration came from a character played by Dick Van Dyke in the classic Disney movie."
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There's a good chance the state will come after you for some sort of a fuel tax if you're doing something like this. :)
On top of the liquor tax he'll already be paying? Politicians wouldn't dare...
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Trust me the excise tax on the alcohol is higher than the fuel tax would be.
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I remember here in Australia back in the 80's a man made a car that ran on water was on the 6 o'clock news, a week later he was found dead. Nothing more was said.
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I remember here in Australia back in the 80's a man made a car that ran on water was on the 6 o'clock news, a week later he was found dead. Nothing more was said.
Oh please... really?
Maybe he died of terminal stupidity... or embarassment at having pulled off such a scam (though it's the news people who really ought to be embarassed)
Look, if it was really possible to power a car with water (or even get the infamous "100 MPG" you hear about occasionally) the auto companies would do it. Everyone seems to forget that even if the oil companies were all in cahoots to suppress such technology, the CAR companies (in a couple dozen countries all over the world) wouldn't
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"Look, if it was really possible to power a car with water (or even get the infamous "100 MPG" you hear about occasionally"
Someone doesn't pay attention to SAE supermileage events where high school kids and university students build cars that drop 1,000 MPG (Yes THOUSAND) on a *REGULAR* basis.
I think the current record is over three thousand MPG.
I know sunlight hurts but it pays to step outside now and then.
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Some yes, some no. (Score:2)
I looked over the Supermileage site, and looked at a number of the supermileage sites of the individual competitors.
The link you provide (of the contest) has a picture of one-man "uglycarts". The various competitor sites I looked at showed fiberglass, streamline-bodied one-man vehicles.
I'm having a bit of trouble reconciling the uglycart image with the streamlined carts. I suspect they are built for different competitions; perhaps ones where speed is not a criteria (and thus, streamlining is not a critica
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Do such hyper-mileage cars meet safety and other regulatory standards? Can they travel at highway speeds, and if so, do they maintain their high mileage at those speeds? Do they have some sort of exotic construction (materials, etc.) that would be difficult to mass produce?
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During inspection / emissions testing, maybe?
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I can see this being imposed on all cars, while the gas taxes remain in place too.
I think it's safe to say (Score:5, Funny)
Also, I'm from Kentucky and this does not surprise me at all.
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Could be fun watching drivers fill up at "versatile fuel stations" in Kentucky. Although if you're in line, you might be waiting awhile.
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Do I recall correctly that Homer fantasized about filling up and talkingt to an ethanol powered car: "One for you. One for me. One for you. One for me."?
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Could be fun watching drivers fill up at "versatile fuel stations" in Kentucky. Although if you're in line, you might be waiting awhile.
That's okay. Folks will just queue up with a gallon left in the tank and a straw...
Re:I think it's safe to say (Score:5, Funny)
Also, I'm from Kentucky and this does not surprise me at all.
Why would being from Kentucky surprise you?
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I'm frequently surprised to find I live in Kentucky.
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You may have a condition known as Alzheimer's.
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Even in North Middletown, KY?
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That's selection bias.
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My GF boards a horse in North Middletown, KY (actually, just north of North Middletown).
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So the horse is from Kentucky?
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Pure ethanol is higher octane than gasoline, and requires engine adjustments (mostly timing, but changing the compression ratio can also help) to avoid pinging.
Despite that, it only has about 2/3 as much energy stored in it as gasoline, by volume (methanol is about 1/2), which requires reworking the fuel and ignition systems. That, however, is pure ethanol. Bourbon is typical about 80 proof, which is not combustible. For anything like a car engine, you need a minimum of about 160 proof (which is lower octan
Unfortunately (Score:1)
He keeps using up the fuel before he can drive with it.
Wow (Score:2)
Man powers car on ethanol, forgive me if I am less than impressed.
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Man powers car on ethanol, forgive me if I am less than impressed.
Dirty ethanol at that. Perhaps it will get some badly-needed funds for KY.
Neat...but... (Score:3)
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Re:Neat...but... (Score:5, Funny)
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Whoosh!
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Whoosh!
Whoosh!
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Son, humour is a complicated thing - and it's not funny at all when you have to explain it.
Didn't the easter bunny bring you any eggs?
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No, no. The bourbon must be served neat, as opposed to on the rocks, diluted with water or with soda.
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Moohshine?
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That's only if you use the 'store bought' kind. The guy has a 'stil', so he probably makes his own from potato peelings, brewers yeast, and dead flies.
What a waste (Score:5, Funny)
Why would you use up perfectly good bourbon on driving somewhere? I mean, this seems about as bright as the bumbling alchemist proudly announcing that he'd found a way to turn gold into lead.
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You wouldn't. This is for bourbon that really isn't fit for human consumption anyways.
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Why would you use up perfectly good bourbon on driving somewhere?
To get more bourbon.
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Which is an issue for the people who drink for the flavor.
Both of them.
The important part (Score:2)
Anything under 50% doesn't really burn directly , I'm curious what he did to make it run.
Perhaps using excess engine heat to separate alcohol evaporating it first from the content.
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He says it runs well on Maker's Mark. I don't have a bottle handy ATM, but ISTR it is 90 proof.
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Bourbon can be anywhere from 80 to 160 proof. I didn't RTFA, but if he's making it himself, then it could be even higher, although not really legal.
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120 proof sounds cooler than 60% ABV.
bigger numbers = better. america wins again.
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The article said he built it partly out of an old still. So maybe he fires up the still, which evaporates the alcohol, and just uses that? Not sure what he would use to power the still... It's a completely impractical car, but the engineer in me would love to see the design.
Oblig.. (Score:3)
One for you and one for me.
One for you and one for me.
One for you...
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Figures (Score:1)
Having lived in Kentucky for the past three years*, my only response is:
*sigh* That figures.
*: Send help.
What's new in that? (Score:1)
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However, if you have to drive a Lada, I recommend drinking the Vodka first.
Shill journalism (Score:2)
This is just an advert for "Maker's Mark" whiskey. The copy blurbs on about how the car runs best on it.
Yet another product who's value mostly lies in the psychological profile built up by it's advertising.
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Yet another product who's value mostly lies in the psychological profile built up by it's advertising.
I don't believe I've ever seen an ad for Maker's Mark. I've seen them for Jack Daniels and Jim Beam - but not Maker's Mark.
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They bought the side of a whole building near my office (in the UK) ... my initial instinct was that it's a product like Grey Goose, thought up just to meet a price point. It's a little older than that though.
I still think it has an element of the price being an important part of it's brand value, but at least it isn't just gussied up grain alcohol.
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It's a premium product, and they charge accordingly. Beats the crap out of Jack Daniels. And it's been around a long time, though perhaps not in the UK. 1.75 L will run you just under $50 in the US, for price comparison.
Up until recently Maker's Mark was a single-product company - and they've been around for over a century.
It's funny that this came up now, because (a week or so ago) I bought a bottle of their new-ish "premium" Makers 46 bourbon for the first time. I think it's my favorite bourbon; but I haven't tried any of the true premium ($100/bottle) bourbons.
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Thanks for the recommendation - I'll definitely keep my eyes open for that.
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I've seen billboards for Maker's.
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I have seen ads for Maker's Mark, and I've also had the pleasure of drinking it. It is a fine bourbon. Not the best, but far, far from the worst.
And it's assuredly good enough to not want to cater to the crowd that will be impressed by it working just as well as gasoline.
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Bulleit is usually priced similarly, and also great.
Bourbon (Score:2)
Hold the phone... (Score:2)
From TFA:
"A consumer version of the Nilsson concept car was showcased a couple of weeks ago by Japanese automaker Nissan which set the official debut for 2014. At this point the name used for the car is the Nissan Nilsson, but several names are taken into consideration like the Nissan Alky, the Lush or the Inebriator."
I'm starting to think this is a joke article now.
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You mean you didn't suspect anything after reading this:
Since when does anyone in Kentucky care about moonshine being illegal?
The "I shot them", on the other hand, while believable, just makes you wish he was a better
Rich Uncle Pennybags! (Score:4, Funny)
Want some rhy? 'Course you do! (Score:1)
Here's to us!
Who's like us?
Damn few!
And they're all dead!
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My math may be off, but... (Score:3)
My math may be off, but burning $100+/gal bourbon in place of $3.00-4.00/gal gasoline doesn't seem to add up.
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Once you've drunk some, the math will become a lot less important.
Not cool. (Score:3, Funny)
In related news... (Score:2)
Yawn (Score:1)
Wake me up, when you have directions for making a urine-powered car.
Bourbon is more expensive per BTU than gasoline. And there is a Federal excise tax that applies to distilled liquors such as bourbon. The current rate is $13.50 per proof gallon
So at approximately 50% ABV, you pay $6.75 per gallon just in taxes to the feds. Probably a couple more $$, so the producer can actually earn some money?
It's not april fools anymore (Score:2)
So why are we still looking at april fools articles?
Submitter is a subtard
Justified (Score:2)
Jack Daniels? (Score:1)
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Is Jack Daniels Old No. 7 the Premium fuel?
Jack Daniels is Tennessee whiskey, not bourbon, and any drunk from Kentucky will fight you over that. Old No. 7 isn't exactly premium anyway, try Gentleman Jack or something next time. Jim Beam is probably the most common bourbon, but you'll want something more like Maker's Mark if you're going premium.
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Every Tennessee whiskey meets the standards necessary to be called a bourbon; the use of the label "Tennessee whiskey" is a marketing gimmick, nothing more.
Wood gas would have been cheaper. (Score:2)
Wood would be cheaper, but not as efficient. Also has a proven track record.
http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html [lowtechmagazine.com]
Bender's Ancestor (Score:2)
In related news (Score:2)
President Obama is a Swede.
Popular at tailgate parties (Score:2)
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I watched Chitty Chitty Bang Bang on TV this morning, for the first time I've seen it since I was a little kid.
(Powering a car on alcohol is no feat, with modern engines, it requires little more than pouring the alcohol into the gas tank and tweaking timing a bit - if your ecu wont do that for you automatically)
Well, to be fair, unless it is REALLY strong Bourbon, it won't ignite. It's not like you can just put Jack Daniels in your tank and run it. 80 proof is not strong enough to be flammable.
I'd still like to see if this would be better if this were something other than an internal combustion engine. Turbine engines can run off just about anything that will burn from natural gas, to gasoline, to Bacardi 151 to kerosene with very little modification if any at all. I still don't understand why we don't use tur
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While more practical for a hybrid than for direct drive, a turbine engine is still a bit high maintenance and very few auto mechanics are up to the job.
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Turbine engines run at high power, but low torque. The need significant gearing to be useful for automotive operation, and even then, do not spool quickly enough to have acceptable acceleration. Turbines would work fine as a generator in an electric vehicle, but in a hybrid where the engine remains attached to the drive train, you have every bit the same problem.
Turbines are very compact, and due to their high combustion temperatures, can run on nearly anything. For thermal efficiency, turbines benefit g
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Mandatory nit-pick: Turbines are also internal combustion engines.
Also, it's been done, although at a larger scale -- the Union Pacific Railroad used to have these [uprr.com] beauties, which they liked for exactly the flex-fuel reason you mention. They could run on ultra-cheap heavy diesel oil.
They weren't especially efficient users of energy, however -- turbines are great at full power, but at low power loads, they still use almost as much fuel per unit time as at full power.
In a modern hybrid application, where ther
Re:Waste of good alcohol (Score:5, Funny)
What a waste! I'd be interested if it was "Kentucky man builds Budwiesier powered car" Now that is something we can afford to use a fuel source instead of a drink
Oh please - not the old "water powered car" hoax again...
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