Google Acquires G.co Domain 133
dkd903 writes "Google has announced that they have acquired a new domain – g.co. They said, 'We’ll only use g.co to send you to webpages that are owned by Google, and only we can create g.co shortcuts. That means you can visit a g.co shortcut confident you will always end up at a page for a Google product or service. There's no need to fret about the fate of goo.gl; we like it as much as you do, and nothing is changing on that front.'"
in the future ... (Score:3)
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G is a boy's word... [google.com]
With apologies to Arthur Miller...
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methinks overconfidence could spell doom... (Score:2)
From the article:
If I were them, in an era when there are organizations dedicated to doing things for t3h lulz, I wouldn't be advertising something as essentially unhackable. This is just an excuse to point some shortcuts to goatse, tubgirl, rickroll, or lemon party...
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They're not saying its unhackable they're saying g.co will only be used to link to Google services like Gmail or Google Maps and you won't be able to make links sites like Slashdot or Twitter. It's no more likely to be hacked than Google.com.
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No. It does not make the point. In fact, it makes point against your point. What was your point again?
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This is just an excuse to point some shortcuts to goatse, tubgirl, rickroll, or lemon party...
Not if I beat you to it and enter those websites myself! Hah! Who's laughing now?!
URL shorteners, a solution looking for a problem (Score:2)
Thanks largely to Twitter, a solution to a problem that doesn't exist (even text messages can be larger than 140 characters now on any modern phone).
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The solution to long, hard-to-read URLs is not short, hard-to-read URLs.
In fact, as long as clicking them works, it really doesn't matter how long they are.
Most of the time, the beginning of the URL is the important part anyway. And if it's purposely obfuscated, maybe I just don't want to go there.
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Yes because it is much better to send somebody a URL that looks like this:
http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=42+St+-+Port+Authority+Bus+Terminal+%4040.757308,-73.989735&daddr=350+5th+Avenue,+New+York,+NY+10118+(Empire+State+Building)&hl=en&ll=40.75267,-73.987169&spn=0.009899,0.016158&sll=40.752459,-73.987169&sspn=0.009899,0.016158&geocode=FTzobQIdmQGX-w%3BFUvGbQIdERKX-yFzdY-mZOGFkSlpdBGzqVnCiTEsrLWKpFygrA&mra=ls&dirflg=w&z=16 [google.com]
Instead of using the shortener.
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Yes.
http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=42+St+-+Port+Authority+Bus+Terminal+%4040.757308,-73.989735&daddr=350+5th+Avenue,+New+York,+NY+10118+(Empire+State+Building)&hl=en&ll=40.75267,-73.987169&spn=0.009899,0.016158&sll=40.752459,-73.987169&sspn=0.009899,0.016158&geocode=FTzobQIdmQGX-w%3BFUvGbQIdERKX-yFzdY-mZOGFkSlpdBGzqVnCiTEsrLWKpFygrA&mra=ls&dirflg=w&z=16 [google.com]
is much better than
http://tinyurl.com/3e38b5d [tinyurl.com]
1) In the former, I know what I'm clicking on at a glance: Google Map
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a solution that works for "everybody"
i know that at least FireFox has an addon called Long Url Please (i have it installed) and i would bet that similar extensions exist for those browsers run by folks that would care about such things.
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And how many end users know how to edit HTML in their emails or even want to? And how many prefer to send their emails in plain text or Rich Text? Or what if I am texting it to somebody?
If somebody asked me for directions to my house - I would much rather send them something I can copy and paste straight from Google's site (which is likely how this will work) into my email that is less intimidating.
I'm curious - are you anti-zip files, too? I mean why zip 5 files into one when you could just attach all 5
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And how many end users know how to edit HTML in their emails or even want to? And how many prefer to send their emails in plain text or Rich Text? Or what if I am texting it to somebody?
The browser should shorten it. You shouldn't have to. But even if the browser doesn't, I'd prefer the long version.
If they trust you enough to click a short, random URL, they should trust you enough to click a long, "intimidating" one. Just set it off with enough white space that it's distinct from the text around it, or send it in its own message.
If somebody asked me for directions to my house - I would much rather send them something I can copy and paste straight from Google's site (which is likely how this will work) into my email that is less intimidating.
Actually, this works just fine, is much shorter, and is readable enough that I don't think it's intimidating:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=from:42+St+-+Port+Autho [google.com]
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"If somebody asked me for directions to my house - " I tell 'em "Five miles north of Foreman, left on county road 116." If they aren't smart enough to find my house with those directions, I don't want them on my property. Hell, they might be dumb enough to do a swan dive into the well, or something, then sue me! And, it ain't just liberals who would do such a thing these days, either!
It's just mind boggling that people can't give or take directions anymore. Someone asked in a forum if the internet made
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http://www.amazon.com/Buffalo-Technology-AirStation-Wireless-WZR-HP-AG300H/dp/B004UAL5AU
http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr= 42+St+-+Port+Authority+Bus+Terminal+%40 40.757308,-73.989735&daddr=350+5th+Avenue,+New+York,+NY+10118 +(Empire+State+Building)
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Yes because it is much better to send somebody a URL that looks like this:
http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=42+St+-+Port+Authority+Bus+Terminal+%4040.757308,-73.989735&daddr=350+5th+Avenue,+New+York,+NY+10118+(Empire+State+Building)&hl=en&ll=40.75267,-73.987169&spn=0.009899,0.016158&sll=40.752459,-73.987169&sspn=0.009899,0.016158&geocode=FTzobQIdmQGX-w%3BFUvGbQIdERKX-yFzdY-mZOGFkSlpdBGzqVnCiTEsrLWKpFygrA&mra=ls&dirflg=w&z=16 [google.com]
Instead of using the shortener.
clearly... http://maps.g.co/maps?saddr=42+St+-+Port+Authority+Bus+Terminal+%4040.757308,-73.989735&daddr=350+5th+Avenue,+New+York,+NY+10118+(Empire+State+Building)&hl=en&ll=40.75267,-73.987169&spn=0.009899,0.016158&sll=40.752459,-73.987169&sspn=0.009899,0.016158&geocode=FTzobQIdmQGX-w%3BFUvGbQIdERKX-yFzdY-mZOGFkSlpdBGzqVnCiTEsrLWKpFygrA&mra=ls&dirflg=w&z=16 [g.co] is a HUGE improvement.
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You severely misunderstand how shorteners work.
The URL would be more like:
http://g.co/A5t8324Y [g.co]
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I agree. What is wrong with that?
Not like you need to really read it, just be able to click it.If you do want to read it you still can.
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Yes because it is much better to send somebody a URL that looks like this [google.com]
There, I fixed it.
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In fact, as long as clicking them works, it really doesn't matter how long they are.
Right, and shorteners are frequently used when communicating over non-clickable media (phone, print, etc.) Think of it as as technology bridge with decent ergonomics.
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They are a good thing in a good number of circumstances. The beef I have is that now sites are using custom URL shorteners on links back to their own site! Hell, I saw one yesterday that's a WordPress plug-in, providing short links to other entires on the same friggin' blog. WTF is the point? A competent blogger/writer is going to put the link on the related words and not just dump a URL.
The National Post has natpo.st, Ars Technica has (IIRC) arst.ch (not even with an 'e'). Now THAT is a solution without
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The service sending the SMS should shorten those URLs for you, keeping the full version (the 'href', not necessarily the text) for HTML enabled readers.
Forcing users to shorten them for everyone is a crude hack.
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Ever try to read someone a full-length URL over the phone?
What about typing out a full length URL when you don't have the option of copy-paste?
Or trying to copy/paste a multi-line URL in an IRC client while on your phone w/ a screen that's 2" wide?
Please don't make the all-to-common mistake of thinking a technology or idea has no point simply because it doesn't fit your own usage patterns.
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You mean, your phone doesn't have a keyboard? :p
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Ever try to read someone a full-length URL over the phone?
Why on earth would I ever need to do that? Telling them 3 keywords to search for on Google would probably be easier if I really needed to tell them verbally and for some reason couldn't just say "I'll e-mail/text you the link".
And as long as we're on the subject of readibility, a string of random, case-sensitive alphanumeric characters doesn't score high on the readibility quotient. At least now they usually let you try asking for a readable URL, which will probably already be taken and you'll get whatever
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Why on earth would I ever need to do that? Telling them 3 keywords to search for on Google would probably be easier if I really needed to tell them verbally and for some reason couldn't just say "I'll e-mail/text you the link".
Requiring you to get the email address over the phone in some cases, which can be even more tedious than a URL.
What? I thought even the iPhone supported that by now. *ducks*
Not that copy paste is impossible - but that sometimes it's awkward and can be easier to type a few characters, on any phone.
Really though the IRC client should be intelligent enough to shorten the displayed text for the link. Anything after ? is probably redundant. If you need to see the rest of the link, hover over it. (And yes, there should be a way to "hover" on a link, even on a phone.)
Possibly - and yet software has shortcomings. Saying that the tool to workaround them is not useless because the workaround shouldn't be necessary is not a valid argument.
Another use case - and one I mostly use it for - I have something I'm looking at on my phone, and want t
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You work for experts-exchange? Yeah, it's too bad, really; ExpertSexChange.com doesn't even work any more.
I guess you could tell them to Google "ExpertSexChange", that works...
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www.foo9bar.com ~
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The solution to this problem is hyperlinks. Hyperlinks were also the solution to this problem a decade ago. On a computer, text doesn't have to be plain.
Never understood why Twitter didn't allow those. (Or why it's 140 characters instead of 160, for that matter.)
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For some use cases hyperlinks work. For some they don't. For some you can use either/or - choice is good, etc.
Why do people have such a hard time with this kind of service? If you don't like it... don't use it. Nobody holds a gun to your head. Since millions of people are using it, I can't understand the argument that it's useless - because clearly to a signficant number of people it is *not* useless.
The only thing that can be said is that it doesn't fit your personal criteria of "useful" -- and that's f
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I'm not saying URL shorteners aren't useful. I'm saying that in most cases there's a better, existing solution that's less prone to linkrot and actually lets me see where I'm going.
Hyperlinks aren't supported on Twitter, so the choice argument doesn't seem relevant here. (Also, it's other people's use of URL shorteners that affects me, but I can accept being outvoted.) If you want more choice, you should be arguing for hyperlinks, not defending URL shorteners.
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So what you're saying is - because software has shortcomings - any workaround to those shortcomings is invalid?
I see a problem here, don't you?
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Yeah, there is a problem here. What are the workarounds for the shortcomings of your underthought workarounds for the original shortcommings?
Also, what are the workarounds for the other thounsand of (way more common) use cases where one'd want copy/paste but doesn't have it?
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Wait, what?
My point - my only point in my reply to AC - is that for the one scenario that AC argued against, his argument was not valid. Whether or not software should provide a feature is not the point. Whether or not the workaround for the lack is the best possible workaround solution is also not the point. Certainly I'm not prescribing a one-size-fits-all solution to a particular software lack. (In fact, the use case I was thinking of - copy and paste worked fine, but selecting text and copying it
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Thanks largely to Twitter, a solution to a problem that doesn't exist (even text messages can be larger than 140 characters now on any modern phone).
I just wrote a letter yesterday (distribution to ~100 people) which includes a link to an online calendar. I don't control that infrastructure, and the original URL was about 80 characters long. I included an is.gd URL in the letter so people only have to type about 10 characters to see the calendar.
Why is this not a valid solution?
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A letter? Like one of the kind that you mail? With real stamps?
Okay, I'll begrudgingly admit that if I had to inscribe a long URL in hieroglyphics on a clay tablet, a URL shortener might be helpful.
Why is this not a valid solution?
It's valid, it's just less than ideal. Much less than ideal.
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It's valid, it's just less than ideal. Much less than ideal.
What would be better? I'm open to suggestions.
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Just about anything electronic. HTML-formatted e-mail, or at least a PDF.
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But neither of those help somebody with a piece of paper in their hands get to a URL.
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Register a domain and link to it, then; if you're organized enough to need a group calendar you probably ought to have a website.
Heck, I'm pretty sure that Google Apps would do a calendar for your domain.
There's a problem (Score:2)
You don't know what URL shorteners are really for?
They're for tracking/counting, particularly for outbound links when your own httpd isn't where the link leads. (But also for whenever someone simply doesn't want to ask IT for the apache logs or wants to use a trendy new reporting tool rather than rely on the last couple decades worth of accreted tools (what can I say, people are funny).)
And the best thing about counting is that you don't have to count the cost. [slashdot.org]
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Outgoing link trackers don't necessarily shorten the links, and URL shorteners don't necessarily provide handy tracking tools.
They're similar, but still mostly-unrelated, things.
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google also uses a lot of one-character variable names in their javascript. Maybe at their scale, they do care about saving a few characters on each page they serve.
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This is indeed news (Score:5, Insightful)
Please keep me updated on other domains Google buy, you've just made my day better.
Well, if they merged with Facebook (Score:2)
And got GoogFace.com or FoogleBook.com I think that would be.... um
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goog.gl was better (Score:2)
Seriously, g.co is lame. The Goog.Gl is so much more fun.
Why does anyone care about saving 3 characters of space!?
Re:goo.gl was better -- sorry for the typo (Score:2)
Darn, I mean goo.gl
And again, it's two characters different?? Who cares??
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When I see goo.gl I'm trained to think it's goatse because I believe anyone can use that domain where Google stated that g.co will be for Google to use only.
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beca
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Because we like you!
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G.co is much cleaner in its spelling. I think Goog.gl poses a huge security risk for users because someone could easily provide a malware link to something spelled remarkably similar to goog.gl. Honestly, a normal user is not going to "get" the concept of a TLD that is oh-so-clever in almost spelling out "Google." It is not intuitive. This is the same reason I never bothered with Delicious; I'm not going to play a guessing game as to where the dots could be ambiguously placed.
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Case in point: the domain is actually goo.gl, not the goog.gl as you called it. GP messed it up too, so maybe he needs look no further than himself for the question to which g.co is the answer.
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Why does anyone care about saving 3 characters of space!?
Because typing long strings of characters is boring, tedious, and error prone.
I know, I used to enter multi-page listings of machine code from Run magazine.
goog.gl Remains the Only Public Option (Score:2)
We’ll only use g.co to send you to webpages that are owned by Google, and only we can create g.co shortcuts. That means you can visit a g.co shortcut confident you will always end up at a page for a Google product or service. There’s no need to fret about the fate of goo.gl; we like it as much as you do, and nothing is changing on that front. It will continue to be our public URL shortener that anybody can use to shorten URLs across the web.
It sounds like only Google owned URLs will be available through g.co and the public will continue to use goo.gl so no need to debate this it's really a minor amount of links compared to what users produce.
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Ever since Twitter, which puts a premium on brevity since it was originally based on the SMS limitation of 160 characters, having short URLs has become vital.
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Also on the news... (Score:5, Funny)
When asked, Joe Dinousaur said: "Well, if you think I saved memory then and it was 2 bytes per date, imagine what I can do now with millions of URLs. Back in the day I weren't able to convince Tim that he should stick to Pascal compatible strings in URLs, and now we're stuck with Kb long string in the URL. I believe with google's support I will be able to fix that horror."
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I call BS. You can't really predict what will happen in 49 years.
Understatement (Score:2)
That means you can visit a g.co shortcut confident you will always end up at a page for a Google product or service.
I'm only confident that I will be tracked, photographed, my wifi details leaked and/or x-rayed. Privacy stops wherever you g.co?
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I'm only confident that I will be tracked, photographed, my wifi details leaked and/or x-rayed.
Yes. So nothing new really added to the system, it's just the convenience.
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They wanted to collect and analyze your tears.
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Yeah. It's Colombia. Twitter has one, and I'm surprised Conan O'Brien hasn't bought Co.Co yet (his new nickname). I remember the Super Bowl ad where GoDaddy said that .co was the new .com. It doesn't make any sense to me.
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Although the .co TDL is owned by Colombia, it's being administered by a private company. Let's hope some of the money earned by the sale of these .co domains is reinvested in Colombia. My country needs it.
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Considering how businesses behave in general... I'd say not likely=( Your country is fucked=(
g.cx to be bought (Score:1)
The most convientient way to access the most famous site on the internet.
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This story brought to you... (Score:1)
Thanks, I'll get back to watching TV with my kids now.
In the words of Sean Parker (Score:2)
Drop the "oogle". Just "g".
ok, but ko (Score:3)
g.co use an invalid security certificate
Certificate valide only for :
*.google.com , google.com , *.atggl.com , *.youtube.com , youtube.com , *.ytimg.com , *.google.com.br , *.google.co.in , *.google.es , *.google.co.uk , *.google.ca , *.google.fr , *.google.pt , *.google.it , *.google.de , *.google.cl , *.google.pl , *.google.nl , *.google.com.au , *.google.co.jp , *.google.hu , *.google.com.mx , *.google.com.ar , *.google.com.co , *.google.com.vn , *.google.com.tr , *.android.com , *.googlecommerce.com
(error code : ssl_error_bad_cert_domain)
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It's hilarious getting such a serious and scary dialog in Google Chrome while attempting to visit that address.
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Thanks,
I got the screenshot and posted it to my G+
Stuff that matters? (Score:2)
I don't see how exactly this fits the definition of "stuff that matters". Or "news for nerds" too, actually.
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Because Google is a big hulking presence in nerd space?
What charset? (Score:2)
New TLDs: .google or .g or... google.plus mail.g (Score:2)
Brand Dilution (Score:2)
That means you can visit a g.co shortcut confident you will always end up at a page for a Google product or service.
You know how I knew that before? If the link was in the google.com domain. Someone at Google must have seen the Overstock.com commercials explaining how o.co is also Overstock and think, "Damn, we need us some of that!"
I don't understand this. I get it, they think we're all two lazy to type the whole name with our thumbs on a smartphone, but for the last 10 years how many millions of dollars have been spent to persuade potential customers "when you're thinking bargains, think Overstock.com" or "google.co
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The seem to be centralizing a location for all their services into 1 easy to remember domain. And they can't very well use Google because they already use it for something else.
Not really a bad idea.
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centralizing a location for all their services into 1 easy to remember domain [...] can't very well use Google because they already use it
Hmm, yeah, maps.google.com, mail.google.com, images.google.com, video.google.com, news.google.com, translate.google.com, scholar.google.com, docs.google.com, groups.google.com... obviously they can't use Google to centralize all their services, it's really kind of overcrowded already.
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The seem to be centralizing a location for all their services into 1 easy to remember domain. And they can't very well use Google because they already use it for something else.
Not really a bad idea.
But that's just the thing: 1 easy to remember domain. Somehow the mental connection of "g.co == Google stuff" is easier than "google.com == Google stuff", even though the latter is what everyone has been using for 10+ years?
Even nuttier: if I visit g.co in my browser, the landing page tells me that I've reached Google central, but I don't land on any Google properties. If I actually want to do anything with Google (maps, mail, videos, etc.) I still have to click the Google logo at the top of the page. No
http://g.co is too long (Score:1)
So, I shortened it. See:
http://bit.ly/i8zRxz [bit.ly]
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Every time you use bit.ly, Gaddafi kills a freedom fighter.
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