Video The Chevy Segway Keeps On Rolling (Video) 210
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Back in 2009 G.M. and Segway talked about the P.U.M.A., or Personal Urban Mobility and Accessibility vehicle. Now it's the EN-V, which stands for Electric Network Vehicle. G.M. (along with partner Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation) debuted the thing in Shanghai in 2010, then displayed it at the Las Vegas Consumer Electronics Show in 2011, and now they're showing it off at auto shows, no doubt hoping to get a lot of buzz going for this two-wheeled wonder, which is supposed to be so loaded with navigation and collision avoidance electronics that you can sleep in it on your way to work. (Please wake us up when we get there, okay?)
Wow (Score:5, Insightful)
Could we maybe get a little less talking by the broadcaster and a little more of a look at the damn thing
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That was what I was hoping for. Why a video at all? All it is is a talking head (which I didn't hear because I keep the sound shut off on this computer) and some STILL pics of the vehicle.
It looks pretty cool, I wonder what they cost? Probably more than I paid for my car (I never buy cars new).
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(which I didn't hear because I keep the sound shut off on this computer).
You're lucky. She's got an annoying grating voice to boot...I've got sound and I turned it off.
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Wake up when they FINALLY get around to producing the Urban Assault Vehicle that I've been waiting for for decades...
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Yawn.....
Wake up when they FINALLY get around to producing the Urban Assault Vehicle that I've been waiting for for decades...
Yeah, I want a four wheel drive version....
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Urban Assault Vehicle
When I have $17k to blow, I plan on picking up a Pinzgauer Puch M712 with a diesel and performing a grease car conversion on it.
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Here you go:
http://www.paramountgroup.biz/en/products/land/marauder-mine-protected-vehicle [paramountgroup.biz]
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I had the sound on, but low. She mentioned a price under $10,000, otherwise people would just buy a car.
Personally, I can foresee a group of these going down the road when one in the lead hits a pothole and does the well-known segway faceplant. Collision avoidance kicks in on the following vehicles - causing them to segway faceplant and it looks like a billiard table. EN-V - corner pocket.
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Could we maybe get a little less talking by the broadcaster and a little more of a look at the damn thing
It's a woman. Talking. Most people on here haven't sen that before.
The Government gave us a blank check (Score:3)
"So now we can spend money on stupid stuff (like segway clones) that were already proven failures by other companies (Segway)." - GM
No I'm not trolling.
This is my honest opinion.
Though their Volt car seems like a decent idea; not sure why it isn't selling better?
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Re:The Government gave us a blank check (Score:5, Insightful)
Though their Volt car seems like a decent idea; not sure why it isn't selling better?
Because they start at like $40 grand and a Prius is $23k. That's a LOT of gas - even the guy at work who has already has solar cells and was going to charge it for "free" couldn't justify the price given the current price of gas.
(We live in PA, so currently he is allowed to spin his electric meter backwards with the solar cells - that is why "free" is in quotes... it would actually cost him the going rate of electricity.)
Re:The Government gave us a blank check (Score:5, Insightful)
So now we can spend money on stupid stuff (like segway clones) that were already proven failures by other companies (Segway).
Segway was a failure because it's too goddamned expensive. Six grand? I only spent ten on my car. When the patents run out and they're a hundred bucks each, everybody will have one.
The volt isn't selling better for the same reason. A teeny little car that costs more than my full sized sedan did new, has limited range, etc? No thanks. When an electric car costs no more than a gasoline car, they too will sell well.
The 1% do not understand the 99%. Most of us don't have much money we can afford to waste on expensive toys like segways and electric cars, and those who can buy any damned thing they please can't get their heads around that.
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The other problem is that the two parallel wheels thing is just pointless. There are electric scooters [nycewheels.com] that do the same thing as a Segway but are way cheaper because they put the wheels one in front of the other.
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A Segway still has a substantially larger footprint than the rider.
You can take a Segway onto on an elevator, but not a crowded elevator, unless you redefine "crowded elevator" to a substantially different meaning than it would usually have when the only thing you were thinking about putting in it were people not mounted on powered vehicl
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you can't take a scooter onto a crowded elevator
Then your not trying hard enough.
Re:The Government gave us a blank check (Score:4, Interesting)
Segway was a failure because it's too goddamned expensive. Six grand? I only spent ten on my car. When the patents run out and they're a hundred bucks each, everybody will have one.
Also, many cities--including mine, San Francisco--have banned their use on sidewalks. If I could buy the original Segway for under $2,000 and take it down the sidewalk, it would be a nice way to get around in a dense city with a lot of hills.
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More like 99% don't understand economics. Or maybe it's just you.
re: the 1% (Score:2)
Seriously, you believe the products like the Segway and Volt are priced wrong because "the 1% do not understand the 99%"?
I'd say that has practically nothing to do with it. What you've generally got here is the realization that our govt. leaders are pushing for environmentally "greener" solutions to energy-related issues, meaning loads of tax subsidies and loans available to those promising to design and deliver such solutions.
We saw this same thing in the Clinton administration when Bill mandated an electr
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The 1% do not understand the 99%.
They understand that people are generally lazy, willfully ignorant, and self interested, which is 90% of what it takes to be successful. The other 10% is either adding value to society by helping people overcome their weaknesses, or else being a dick enough to use people's weaknesses against them. (Not actually mutually exclusive in some cases -- art adds value to society, but the way art is typically marketed probably does not.)
At any rate, it's a business decision. Auto
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So now we can spend money on stupid stuff (like segway clones) that were already proven failures by other companies (Segway).
Segway was a failure because it's too goddamned expensive. Six grand? I only spent ten on my car. When the patents run out and they're a hundred bucks each, everybody will have one.
The volt isn't selling better for the same reason. A teeny little car that costs more than my full sized sedan did new, has limited range, etc? No thanks.
Amen. This is why the Prius was successful - back in 2004, when they released the 2nd (less dinky looking) version, it was a) the least expensive car that had smart-key tech, bluetooth and nav options and b) a really good deal despite being a hybrid.
The Prius cost has changed a bit (I priced out a newer model and was amazed by how much more expensive it is now - it's probably at price/value parity - natural considering the brand is firmly established), but the lesson is real: for mass-adoption to occur, pr
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Not that far from it. I don't have numbers on the Segway, but for the e-bike I used to own (45 mile range on 1.2kWh of electricity including charger and battery losses), that's much, much less than $35/year for a full charge every day at the highest residential rate (middle of the summer, above the first 500 kWH).
Problems with selling the Volt (Score:3)
Because its a fairly new plug-in hybrid that's substantially expensive as many competing hybrids (including, now, plug-in models) from more established brands (e.g., Prius), that is marketed as an "electric car" while at the same time spending a lot of marketing effort to overcome the perception of limitations of electric cars, and that is much more expensive than competitors electric cars (e.g., the Nissan Leaf.)
If they ha
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If you've actually seen any of the TV ads for the Volt, they basically involve the driver/owner being harassed by confused onlookers arguing over whether it's gas or electric, with the owner sheepishly trying to explain that it's both.
They're terrible ads that leave the viewer confused. I'm sure it's not the only problem but that ain't helping.
=Smidge=
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Yeah, that's been true of the recent ads, which have (I would guess) made the problem worse: most of the earlier marketing efforts (up to at least right before launch
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My understanding is that Segway "bombed" because law writers could not make heads or tails of it.
Now if Segway had gone ahead with their Centaur, people may have had a easier time "getting" the whole thing.
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Though their Volt car seems like a decent idea; not sure why it isn't selling better?
Some people have an aversion to vehicles that have been reported to "burst into flames".
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Segways were a complete failure because they were incredibly impractical. Their whole model was built on the idea that cities would decide to create segway lanes. The only practical use I've seen for them are cops in parks instead of riding on bikes (because cops are too fat typically nowadays to ride a bike that long anyway).
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Their whole model was built on the idea that cities would decide to create segway lanes.
Their whole model was built on the idea of having a mass-market outlet to lower the production cost of the underlying technology for use in electric wheelchairs. That line about redesigning cities was Steve Job's.
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CEO yes, founder and segway creator, no. That guy has gone on to other projects.
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I think you are right in that I don't think anyone would buy one of these as their own vehicle but there is one very obvious use that I can see.
Assuming they are as self guiding as the article makes out, you could use them as driverless taxi services running people to/from supermarkets and train stations etc.
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In a lot of places Segways are illegal to ride on the pavement as they travel at 10+ mph and are also illegal to ride on the rode as they are too slow to coexist in cycle lanes or with actual traffic. Wikipedia has a good round up of restrictions in different states/countries [wikipedia.org].
So essentially they aren't very practical because there are limited places where you can actually ride it. For a device that costs thousands of pounds it is a pretty big deal breaker when yo
Because Segways were a raging success (Score:2)
Nothing like watching GM blow its bailout money on this turd.
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Are they actually turning a profit yet, or did the bailout just delay the inevitable?
The fact that they are selling more cars than anyone else is completely worthless if they are still operating at a loss.
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Are they actually turning a profit yet, or did the bailout just delay the inevitable?
The fact that they are selling more cars than anyone else is completely worthless if they are still operating at a loss.
Sure, they may be selling every car at a loss, but they plan on making up the difference in volume.
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Reminds me of a Sparrow EV (Score:2)
They rolled-over a lot and damaged the driver. (Then the company went bankrupt.)
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At $30,000 you could just spend twice as much and get a Tesla Model S and still have some spending money left over.
Um, do you assume that a person who would buy the Sparrow EV would be happy to spend twice as much on a totally different type of EV? And then do you think that someone who would buy the Tesla Model S would think, "damn for half as much I can get that sweet jellybean."?
The only relationship those two products have are they are electric, and they have wheels. They are not in the same price range, nor do they cater to the same customers. Tesla will not be poaching potential Sparrow owners.
What in Sam Hell is a 'Puma'? (Score:5, Funny)
Sarge: May I introduce, our new Light-Reconnaissance vehicle. (Rotating around the new jeep) It has 4-inch Armor Plating; M.A.G. Bumper Suspension; a mounted machine gunner position, and total seating for three. Gentlemen! This is the M12 LRV! I like to call it the 'Warthog'.
Simmons: Why 'Warthog,' Sir?
Sarge: Because 'M12 LRV' is too hard to say in conversation, son.
Grif: No, but, why 'Warthog'? I mean, it doesn't really look like a pig...
Sarge: Say that again?
Grif: I think it looks more like a Puma.
Sarge: What in Sam Hell is a 'Puma'?
Simmons: Uhh, you mean like the shoe company?
Grif: No, like a Puma. It's a big cat, like a lion.
Sarge: You're making that up.
Grif: I'm telling you, it's a real animal!
Sarge: Simmons, I want you to poison Grif's next meal.
Simmons: Yes sir!
Missing parts (Score:5, Funny)
Whet they need is (Score:2)
Whet they need is a way to get you to your desk and into your chair without waking you, making the transition form commute to work entirely seamless.
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If only there were some way to get a chair and desk installed in your home.. and connect via some kind of communications network to your workplace and/or colleagues to share files. Maybe some way of sending text, audio or even visual communications.. that would be cool. It would save billions of units of currency of fuel each year, not to mention commuting time.
Of course we just don't have the technology, and probably never will. Why do I torture myself with such dreams?
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Oh, we have the technology. We have everything you describe...and more (btw, I get your point).
What we lack is the leadership to use it *wisely*. It makes infinite sense (to leadership) to require people to travel to a location where they can reach out and touch you, look at you, know you are there no matter what you are doing. Why at home that worker could be...maybe...reading /., because he or she would never do that at work. The office is preferred to some, the home to others. When a job is suited t
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Can somebody explain to me ... (Score:5, Interesting)
the physics of doing an emergency break with two parallel wheels when going 35 mph?
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*CRASH*
See? Simple.
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and that is what I thought. So who would want to buy a flawed design like this?
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Supposed to work; I recall discussing this with a Segway owner, and pretty much you just lean backwards. How does the Segway keep you from falling backwards? By braking. To stop harder, lean further.
This assumes both wheels have traction, of course.
That cannot work (Score:2)
I do not think that this is compatible with physics for any speed faster than fast walking: the force from decelerating will be so strong that the vehicle will lean forward. There is no way how a human can counter this by just shifting weight (that force is ridiculously small compared to quickly braking a couple of dozen or even hundred pounds of mass down from 35mph to a stop.
Even if the vehicle could look into the future and would automatically lean back as far as possible before initiating the break, the
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On a Segway, you lean forward to accelerate and backwards to brake. The computer senses which way you are leaning and moves the wheels accordingly. For this vehicle, the computer has to control the center of mass, shifting it foward while accelerating and backwards while decelerating (or going in reverse). For an emergency brake, it just shifts the center of gravity really far back. Anit-lock sensors will keep the wheels from locking (which you really, REALLY wouldn't want to have happen in this thing).
well ... (Score:2)
that is more or less what I thought ...
If that is so blatantly obvious that even I can see it, why are they still working on it?
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Just a guess is that they have also thought of it, and are doing something to deal with it.
Unfortunately I think I know what their answer would be. They claim its network abilities make it "unable to crash", because it know where all the other traffic is. Therefore, it should never need to do an emergency break- it can just roll to a gentle halt. And seeing as it's auto-driving, you can't manually emergency break it.
So my guess is- it won't be doing any emergency breaking, ever. It will either roll to a gen
hmm (Score:2)
yes .. the video talks about the "never crash" idea and explains that for this reason, there is no bumper or airbag. ... even if these vehicles only operate in totally isolated lanes where no child, dog, or damaged vehicle can ever appear and nothing can ever drop on the driveway, I am not sure if people would want to drive in them given this kind of "safety".
Sounds quite naive to me
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Normal ride: ||
Braking: \\
Slippery road: =
NYC Auto show (Score:5, Funny)
They were displaying a prototype of this 2 years ago at the NY Auto Show held at the Javits Center... My friend and I are standing by it, and we're trying to guess how much electronics are crammed into the thing, and my friend says "I'll bet it runs Linux"... So the booth babe next to us turns and says 'No, it runs on electricity!"
We thanked her for her insightful information, took three steps and then started laughing hysterically.
Re:NYC Auto show (Score:4, Insightful)
Really? You think the booth babe wanted to be hit on? Oh, man - who's the socially inept one?
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I didn't realize you were making a joke. I thought you were saying that booth babes aren't so completely tired of being hit on and flirted with all day long that they might actually have interest with some of the men at the event.
While I agree that being friendly and chatting won't ever hurt, the booth babes are doing this because they are paid to.
As for laughing "behind her back" - if you can't control your laughter, it is better to do it when out of earshot. It might have really hurt her feelings if they
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And by "other people" you're talking about delusional, self-centered, narcissistic assholes? I mean seriously, put yourself in her shoes for a moment, do you really want people like *me* hitting on you?
Jeeze, I might totally be disrespecting her because she's as bright as a 40-watt, but at the same time, I'm not assuming that every woman out of my league is wanting me to hit on her.
I'm still waiting on my pneumatic tube subways (Score:2)
Can't we just have those things from Logan's Run? They looked almost as cool that that network they had where you could hook up for sex (nothing could top that, of course).
Solved problem. (Score:5, Insightful)
The problem of getting a large number of people around in an urban setting was solved more than a hundred years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle [wikipedia.org]
No reliance on fossil fuels. No recharge time. Takes very little parking space. Extremely maneuverable. Easily moved when broken. Cheap. Easy to repair.
It does have one fatal flaw - low profit margins.
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It does have one fatal flaw - low profit margins.
You sure about that? I'm currently shopping for a bike. Right now I have a hybrid that is a little too heavy and inefficient for my commute to work (it's 26 miles each way) so I'm looking for a replacement. I thought about getting a real road bike, but I can't touch anything decent for less than $1500 new. I have found a couple of touring bikes and a couple of cyclocross-style bikes which are probably actually a better choice for my commute, and a little bit cheaper, but only a little bit. The budget I
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26 miles each way, I think you are looking at an e-assist or an aerodynamic fairing, depending on your route.
Neither is cheap, which supports your skepticism regarding low profit margins.
For a rack, it's not cheap, I think the CETMA racks are very pretty and functional, though I don't own one myself.
And I am not your go-to guy for light bikes -- yesterday's errand was to tow a 40lb bike behind a 65lb cargo bike to get the rear hub rebuilt on the 40lb bike (a legitimate antique, "ALL STEEL", circa-WW2 Raleig
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Only if you ride fast. It does not have to be a workout.
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Steel is easily recyclable.
Rubber grows on trees.
Tarmac is not needed for bicycles. Hard dirt, crushed gravel, cement, packed snow, pavé, and brick all work just fine.
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All my bicycles have steel frames. Who wouldn't want that?
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Stop. Just stop. And take the "steel is real" sticker off your fixie. Ti, Al, and Carbon are just as real as steel.
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Can't spring the rear dropouts on an Al or Carbon frame (done that on one steel bike) or spread the front fork (done that on another steel bike).
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Coats, boots, and umbrellas do.
Neither do shoes, but people still walk. Good traffic design can nearly eliminate accidents. Getting cars out of dense urban areas fixes the issue too. Focus on the problem - the cars, not the victim.
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Yes. I do it all the time in the winter.
Do the cyclists and pedestrians that you slide into come out without any bruises or scrapes?
Yes. I do it many times each year.
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All this covered by characterZero's comment, but I wish to confirm that his answers are the correct ones. I rode 10 miles to work today in the clothes that I am still wearing (no lycra, no funny shoes), on a bike that has carried as many as 3 other (small) people (or a spouse), that can carry as much as 200lbs of cargo, that has also towed a bicycle and carried a passenger simultaneously. I also plan to stop by the grocery store on the way home from work; I already have a list of stuff to buy.
Regarding sa
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it was one of those devices that the tech involved was much cooler than the application. Other things that came out of this were much better, like the wheel chair that can raise it's occupant to eye level with standing adults and even climb stairs.
The EN-V is perfect. (Score:4, Interesting)
Imaging a fleet of these at bus/train stops for daily rental. In the US, at least, the problem with mass trasportation is getting from one stop to the rest of the destination. I tried to start a business in the Dallas area based on this. The idea is basically, a person pays a monthly subscription rental on an small shuttle electric vehicle. The company provides them with a vehicle like the EN-V at the location where they are dropped by the bus. When they are done, they simply return the vehicle to the stop, get on the bus, and go home. Ironically, the Texans that bitch all of the time about federal regulations, wouldn't let me start the business because of state requirements on vehicle size, liability insurance "path to owner" requirements, and licensing restrictions on who can run a "rental car business". If someone has the investment capital, I can guarantee the Federal incentives and tax cuts on this business alone would be worth getting into.
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Cyclist are hated with a passion here in Texas. People won't hesitate to run you down. On a personal note: I'm alergic to nature, sweat, and burning fat cells. And. My fat ass hanging off a bicycle seat, regardless of clothing options, would be an offence to all humanity.
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Given what you say about the local humanity, doesn't it deserve to be offended?
to hell with that little thing (Score:5, Insightful)
fair-weather friend? (Score:4, Insightful)
At the very end of the video she points out that this model (2nd gen) has no windshield wipers, headlamps, or climate control. But they are looking to add that stuff for the 3rd gen model so it will be "all weather". It seems to me that by the time they add all the crap to it that a normal car has, it won't be any cheaper than buying a SMART car. Sure you can spin it around and park it more easily, but with the range and speed tradeoffs it hardly seems like a good business model.
I'm confused, who is the target market for this? (Score:3)
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Car manufactures are already working on car to car communication (and car to roadside).
Also, if the government and big business would want to track your vehicles, they already can! We sell the tech for that. It's quite new, but it doesn't even require changes in the current infrastructure as it uses the normal induction loops in the road. It has only a 90-95% detection ratio (less when people are taking corners) but it should be enough to track your habits.
We are using it to track and optimize your travel t
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The justification for not including standard safety features is that they will never crash because, when every vehicle on the road is one of these, they will talk to each other and know where all the others are.
As someone else pointed out, deer, falling rocks, and icebergs tend not to be where expected. "We don't need more lifeboats, she's unsinkable!"
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There's a lot of safety gained by not going fast, and by not being quite such a large target. Despite the widespread belief that bicycles are deadly-unsafe, per-hour (not per-mile) they're about the same as automobiles. One might guess that there is some frequency-of-brain-fart constant at work here.
I think the way we get there is that we start deploying the anti-crash and collision sensor stuff now in ordinary cars, and once those are widespread, then cars can get smaller.
I also think that by the time th
Design (Score:2)
Looks like they got their concept from the head of a yellow jacket.
http://levahnbros.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/yellow-jacket.jpg
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I got all excited when I saw.. (Score:2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo7QCC2EDtk
Ever think that you are not the target market? (Score:2)
Put your ego aside for just a moment, my little slashdotters.
I doubt that US, CA, UK, AU, NZ, or other Euro countries are the initial target market for the Chevy Segway.
Have you ever visited high population density cities in China or Taiwan (and Japan to a lesser extent)? If you have, you have also seen the insane scooter deathrace they call normal traffic conditions.
I found this video on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=P19qFzqBKGs/ [youtube.com]
Now imagine it's raining. A canopy
Faceplant (Score:2)
Sorry, if a vehicle has only two wheels they should be one in front of the other.
If any new form of vehicle is the future it'll be the half-width car, it will probably be a 3-wheeler though.
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The original version without the canopy/ferrings looks to have saftey wheels on it. No idea if these made it into the production version.
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As a side note I have an old large tiller that has the same engine as second vehicle listed and is probably from the same era. The tiller has the 12hp engine and still runs great even though it is probably 35 years old.
Re:The ultimate commuter car (Score:5, Funny)
I have a 30 minute commute... just about perfect.
What would you be doing the other 29 minutes?
Re:Old Segways dont let you sit! (Score:4, Funny)
I just realized...we are the daleks!!!
just need to make it look more like a garbage can and stick a plunger on it...
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Soon shops will have drive throughs for your ENV and your office building will have special doors and hallways andeven big elevators to allow you to drive right to your cubicle in the office!
The future is here, and it is 50 years old.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peel_P50 [wikipedia.org]
On 28 October 2007, the P50 was featured in a segment of the BBC motoring programme Top Gear on BBC Two, during which the presenter, Jeremy Clarkson, entered the car and drove through central London to work. Clarkson, who is 6 ft 5 in (196 cm) tall, demonstrated that it was possible, although difficult, for tall people to get into the P50. Upon arriving at the BBC, he drove past the car parks, between bollards, to the front of the building, after which he pulled the P50 behind him to his office. He then drove the P50 through the corridors of the office building, which included the background of BBC News 24 while it was on air and used a standard passenger lift (elevator) to get to a meeting, which he attended inside the P50. At the end of the meeting Clarkson drove out of the building and stated that, if the car had a reverse gear, it would be the "ultimate in personal mobility"
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It stinks!
MST3K also riffed on Pumaman. Plus you have P.U.M.A. EN-V to contemplate. Sounds like someone in marketing is having a bit of fun here.
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Seemed to me that the bans were pretty reasonable. Something on the pavement that weighs a considerable amount and has a top speed of 12.5mph isn't suitable to be ridden on the pavement. At the same time a vehicle with a top speed of 12.5mph is too slow to ride on the road and causes an dangerous obstruction in a dedicated cycle lane of people riding bikes at 10-20mph.
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Riding around in a dismembered Transformer's head, specifically Bumblebee.
I didn't want one until you mentioned that. Now it looks all sorts of awesome.