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Mozilla Announces Web Development Learning Initiative 44

bonch writes "Mozilla has announced Webmaker, a web development initiative aimed at teaching the average user the building blocks of the web. Users can join a 'code party' and learn web development with provided authoring tools, and existing developers can volunteer to run their own events. To kick it off, Mozilla is announcing the Summer Code Party starting June 23."
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Mozilla Announces Web Development Learning Initiative

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  • Oh God... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Cryacin ( 657549 ) on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @03:49AM (#40084517)
    This give me flashbacks to what the "average user" produced back in the day, armed and dangerous with FrontPage.

    Please, for the sake of my retinas, I hope that something better comes out of this.
    • Re:Oh God... (Score:5, Informative)

      by Johann Lau ( 1040920 ) on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @04:13AM (#40084615) Homepage Journal

      Oh, you mean like when you teach people to read and write, they sometimes write crummy stuff? Funny, the way I see it, that's still better than what they wrote before -- namely nothing. Kinda like someone who makes a website with blue text on green background is still an improvement over someone who doesn't know how to make a website at all.

      And frankly, look at Slashdot, look at Facebook, look at any fucking page Google ever made, look at Stackoverflow, look at Reddit, and so on.. 99% of the sites we don't even blink at are utter crap. They're either white with no separators, or with separators that crawled out of the ass of a blind man, and then died. Blue text on green background would be an improvement in a lot of cases.

      Mozilla websites on the other hand I can't complain about, from the top off my head -- at least they're constantly switching it up and try to keep it pretty in a ^_^ way. So if anyone should do something like this, let it be them. But regardless of that: I'd rather read more websites with mediocre design coming from genuine humans, than have everybody know how to play it safe, or how to install a wordpress fucking theme, or how to just use facebook instead. Fuck all that stuff, and the whores it rode in on, too. /rant :D

      • This.

        Computing (as in development of automatic behavior of machines) is still a forbidden lore out of the reach of the masses, but it shouldn't be that way.

        We're at the early stages of software development where a few scribes herd the knowledge of the kingdom and eveyone else must subcontract them to fulfill their needs for automation. In the future we'll have software development tools that don't require having a career to create some trigger conditions and simple interactions; until then, it's good that p

      • Mozilla websites on the other hand I can't complain about, from the top off my head

        Try this page []... :-)

        • It still gives me a vibe that an actual human being made that according to what they find pleasant and useful; certainly compared with a LOT of other sites, that each have lots more traffic than that Mozilla page... and if people who wouldn't know something nice if it killed their whole family and burned their house down can make the pages for Google and Facebook, surely "newbies" making "unprofessional" websites will not hurt, or even throw us back in the dark ages.

          Slashdot had one "re-design" (I recall),

          • Well, Just recently it became possible to

            Whoops.. I'm talking about youtube there, must have deleted that word when editing sorry.

    • by Hentes ( 2461350 )

      And today the same people have Facebook pages. Was that really worse?

  • great (Score:4, Interesting)

    by stoolpigeon ( 454276 ) * <bittercode@gmail> on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @03:50AM (#40084519) Homepage Journal

    I love all the new tools out there to help people engage with technology on a deeper level. Going to have to see if we can set up a local event for kids from the nearby school. They have been using Codecademy [] this year in some of the classes, seems like this might be a nice bridge over the summer and maybe something they can use throughout next year.

    • Its great to see web development taking over traditional app development in terms of popularity. We are already in the internet age. Let the web development begin !
  • by Anonymous Coward

    I remember the (first) .com bubble
    - where the taxi driver that drove me to my job, hat a HTML4 book in her car.
    - where I had to work with a sinologist, a germanist, and somebody with a 1-month course in "computers".
    - where I suggested using templating as it hat cut my work load by 90%, but it was rejected because "functions are a too complicated concept"!!
    - where PHP became a language of choice, with people writing things like: if (myfunc() == True)
    - where there were 8 lines of empty space between each line

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Above posts contains free hats. Don't tell Valve! ^^

    • where PHP became a language of choice, with people writing things like: if (myfunc() == True)

      I remember a story about a PHP coder who used things like $jep (Finnish for "yeah") extensively for variable names.

    • - where PHP became a language of choice, with people writing things like: if (myfunc() == True)

      honest question, I don't use php that much but what's wrong with that expression?

      • Well, " == True" is something some people prefer for clarity, which I can respect, so I assume that he's saying people made actual functions with completely useless abstract names like myfunc. If I saw if (myfunc() == True) I'd be able to parse it but would have no idea what it would mean.

  • Accept-Language (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Hognoxious ( 631665 ) on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @05:40AM (#40084967) Homepage Journal

    Do you think they could teach the fucktards over at Google what the Accept-Language header is for?

    That way they could stop guessing which language I want to see based on where I happen to be at any particular time.


    • All they know is the User-agent header which they sniff all the time to decide which version of their pages to show you.

      They can't even output valid HTML.

  • Mozillaâ(TM)s Executive Director, Mark Surman speaks of "That maker spirit". We used to have that in the US. Now we have devolved into a consumer society. I wonder if we can recapture that attitude with these new affordable tools, or if the third world will grab the opportunity alone.

  • When planning summer events for an American audience you need to get word out long before the Memorial Day weekend.

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