GNOME 3.6 Released 230
kthreadd writes "Gnome 3.6 is out. The announcement reads: 'The GNOME Project is proud to present GNOME 3.6, the third update to the 3.x series. This latest version of GNOME 3 includes a number of new features and enhancements, as well as many bug fixes and minor improvements. Together, they represent a significant upgrade to the GNOME 3 user experience.' Andreas Nilsson, President of the GNOME Foundation, said: 'The GNOME Foundation is proud to present this latest GNOME release, and I would like to congratulate the GNOME community on its achievement.' He described the release as 'an important milestone in our mission to bring a free and open computing environment to everyone.' New applications include Clocks and Boxes. Clocks is a world time clock, which allows you to keep an eye on what the local time is around the world. Boxes allows you to connect to other machines, either virtual or remote. For developers there's the new GtkLevelBar widget in GTK+, and GtkEntry can now use Pango attributes."
Switched to Mate desktop, not going back. (Score:5, Informative)
Adios Gnome.
mate-desktop.org
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They *still* can't put the close button on the left side *apart* from the minimize / maximize buttons?
Do those guys even understand the first thing about UI design??
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How did you get this far without knowing that newer /= better? Progress is not a guaranteed thing - newer stuff can always run the risk of being a regression if the people behind it acting like idiots.
Seems to me that almost everyone is chasing trends these days - social, cloud, touch. That's OK, it's emerging tech, but that doesn't mean the tech we're already using is worthless and should be abandoned (and that includes traditional desktop interfaces).
Happily running KDE (Score:3, Interesting)
Happily running KDE. Stable, pretty, highly configurable, defaults require minimal tweaking by me, just does the job. Kubuntu introduces some minor blemishes but survivable. Had to run Windows for a few days, was impressed what a poor experience it is compared to KDE. Just one of many annoying Windows habits: likes to wake up from sleep in the middle of the night and nag me about spending money on McAffey and Norton. Likes to shut down without asking instead of sleep if I make the tinyiest miss with the mouse. Like to reboot a lot. Sometimes just acts strange until rebooted. Argh.
Re:Happily running KDE (Score:5, Insightful)
Same thing when you are forced on OSX. Seriously, KDE has the best window manager bar none. How no one has gone postal on the MS and apple folks responsible for that part of their respective interfaces s a mystery to me.
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Best window manager? Come on, KDE has a rather simple window manager. The best window managers are the high power ones like enlightenment or xmonad,
Re:Happily running KDE (Score:5, Informative)
kwin is fully scriptable -- how much more power do you need than per-window/window class/app rules?. Also, it only does its job of managing windows, and the rest is taken care of by the desktop. Enlightenment is a wm+launchers+set of apps but refuses to admit it would like to be a DE like XFCE. They can't admit that because OMG BLOAT!
xmonad is a very interesting experiment, which some people find great. But these are the same people who think that the purpose of X is having more terminal windows open at the same time -- or their spiritual descendants.
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I agree with your descriptions, in the sense I get your point though I consider that best. You seem to know window managers what makes kwin the best IYO?
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You don't have to think about kwin, it just stays out of the way and does its thing in an unsurprising way. Advanced features like "keep above" and "remember position" are there, easy to get at, and obvious how to use when you need them. The default theme is tastefully done, not ugly and not in your face.
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So your position is it is the combination of power and ease of use that makes it the best?
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Me. Under X my most common is XQuartz and after that, I mostly do what I've been doing for 17 years: WindowMaker. But I wouldn't claim either of those are the best window managers. I'd say Enlightment likely is.
In terms of switching out Window Managers with KDE, yes I know it is possible. I've done a window manager switch with Gnome 1 once when I needed features the default didn't have.
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You and I must be using very different KDE's, because that has not been my experience at all.
Of course, that may be literally true, as I'm running KDE on Fedora so all bets are off.
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So you say KDE being highly configurable is a good thing, and then moan about your complete inability to configure Windows as well as blaming the experience on some known shitty 3rd party apps that no one runs.
Honestly if your complaints about Windows extend to you not knowing how to use powercfg, how to uninstall applications, and being too uncoordinated to hit a 15x15pixel square with your mouse (or can't figure out how to configure one of the many different other ways to send your computer to sleep) then
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KDE4 is better than Gnome3, but that's a pretty low bar. It's not nearly as good as KDE3, or even Gnome2. Of course, I'm not using a tablet, or I might have other opinions.
If SUSE weren't essentially broken, I'd switch to it merely because it's kept the KDE3 desktop available. Unfortunately, the live disk won't even boot on my computer. (Who knows why. All I can see is a solid green screen.)
When Debian drops Gnome2 I'll probably switch to LXDE for awhile. (That's what I'm using on my testing partition
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KDE4 is better than Gnome3, but that's a pretty low bar. It's not nearly as good as KDE3...
You're behind the curve. KDE 4 caught up with and passed KDE 3 some time ago. I can count on the fingers of one finger how many KDE 3 features I miss now. Just one: the slide away task bar.
Amazing! (Score:5, Funny)
Both users are thrilled!
(They are the two remaining developers.)
Do they have even one developer who actually owns a touchscreen device [slashdot.org] yet?
Re:Amazing! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Amazing! (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm pretty sure that Gnome Shell isn't designed to work on a touchscreen. Hot corners are useless on a touchscreen, but Gnome Shell makes use of hot corners, so it's pretty obvious that it was designed first and foremost as a mouse-based UI.
They have done a few things to ensure that touchscreens aren't broken (e.g. the big icons), but the keyboard and mouse are obviously the primary input devices.
The whole "Gnome sucks because it is a desktop environment but was designed for a touchscreen" thing is a complete strawman argument.
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Maybe. A lot of desktop users always run all of their apps maximized anyway. I've been doing this most of the time ever since I was a Windows 3.1 user (Mac natives are probably different).
Improving the "running maximized" workflow is great for people who run maximized, and doesn't make things any worse for people who don't. So I don't see any problem with it.
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OK so don't maximize your windows then. How is it "forced on people"?
Re:Amazing! (Score:4, Insightful)
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Modal dialogs are forced on you no matter what desktop you're using. Sometimes it is a useful thing. If one comes up in an application when it shouldn't, that's more of a problem with the app than the desktop.
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Given that definition, modal dialogs should *NEVER* come up. They are appropriate to lock the process of the application that they are attached to. It is never appropriate to lock the function of all other applications.
Unfortunately, the way modal dialogs are implemented in the system is in this broken way. And one *does* want the dialog to bounce to the top of the screen (z axis) so that the user sees it. And it needs to be separate from the rest of the dialogs, so that it can be on top while the rest
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Initially this thread was about maximized Windows so I'm not sure why we started with modal dialogs...
But anyway, doesn't gnome handle modal dialogs in the same way as every other desktop? the only difference I've noticed is that it connects dialogs to the patent windows, which actually makes it better for the non maximized workflow.
I agree with you that modal dialogs should be used sparingly but what does that have to do with gnome 3?
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This is not correct. It was actually designed for small laptop screens (well, small compared to desktop screens).
Re:Amazing! (Score:4, Insightful)
they would not have that problem if they did not release a totally broken chunk of shit in the first place
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Traditionally (in the linux world) you release early and often, and it's up to the distributions not to package totally broken chunks of shit as their default install. Don't ask developers to hide their code until it is perfect (because that's impossible - real user feedback is required for good development) ask the distros to stop packaging the latest half-baked crap as if it were actually stable. Th
world clock less broken? (Score:3)
Re:Amazing! (Score:4, Insightful)
The thing is, there's broken by bugs, and then there's broken by design. Gnome3 is so broken by design that I've never even noticed any bugs. And the designers don't appear to have noticed that it's broken by design, so there's no way they'll fix the bugs.
Yes, the same thing happened with the KDE3->KDE4 upgrade, which is why I even *care* about the fate of Gnome. And KDE4 is still broken by design. Not as badly broken as Gnome3, but it "broken by design" bugs don't tend to get fixed, because the implementers can't see the problems. I see no indication that the Gnome crew is any different. They've even promised to remove the capability of making the changes that various people have implemented to make the system usable. ("Tweaks", etc.)
I sometimes suspect that both the KDE and the Gnome designers are in the pay of Microsoft, but I *trust* that's mere paranoia. It's too much like normal human behavior to need that kind of an explanation.
obligatory comments (Score:5, Interesting)
<sarcasm>
GNOME 3 is the worst desktop ever!
Actually, Unity is even worse!
This is why Linux on the desktop will never succeed!
GNOME 2 was the only decent Linux desktop!
I haven't seriously used Linux for 10 years, but I know that my Mac is 1000x better in all possible ways!
</sarcasm>
Personally, I'm looking forward to checking out the new GNOME.
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Personally, I'm looking forward to checking out the new GNOME.
Looks like the GNOME userbase just grew 50%!
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Look out Microsoft!
Look out Apple!
The Gnome 3 steamroller is going to crush you!
Re:obligatory comments (Score:4, Insightful)
"Personally, I'm looking forward to checking out the new GNOME."
I seriously have better things to do tonight than install a slightly less broken DM with better accessibility features touted as one of its two bragging points.
Re:obligatory comments (Score:4, Informative)
Yup. I'm going to wait a bit for the themes and extensions I use to get updated for 3.6, but it's looking good so far. At this point it feels like pretty much all the functionality and options removed during the GNOME 2 -> 3 transition has been made available as an extension or exposed as an option via gnome-tweak-tool. Any favorite extensions that you can't live without? My favorites are:
- Axe menu extension (to put a nice "traditional" GNOME menu back in the top left)
- Maximus (to remove the titlebar on maximized windows) and Window Options (to make the window menu available from the panel)
- Tracker extension (to add file results to the type-ahead find search) and Journal extension (to add recent files to dock icon's right click menu)
- Calculator extension (to make the type-ahead find search perform calculations)
My current favorite theme is MediterraneanNight [gnome-look.org]
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I generally agree and I'm hopeful they'll get things figured out better as time goes on. In the meantime, gnome-tweak-tool can be used to turn extensions on and off and install new ones.
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Users are even expected to open a web browser and navigated to https://extensions.gnome.org/local/ [gnome.org] to view installed extensions. Seriously. WTF.
This surprised me. I had no idea this resource existed, and that is a bad way to distribute UI extensions, even if it was well-publicized.
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Actually, I think most people will just google it. If you do that, you end up at the right place automatically. In this case it's actually faster than reading a tutorial with screenshots.
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I have to have a connection to the public internet in order to *see my local machine's configuration?* That can't be right. Somebody tell me that's not right.
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I'm happy enough with Gnome 3 as implemented in Fedora, and I thought Unity in Ubuntu was pretty decent. Neither is flawless, but I prefer either of them to any other desktop UI I've tried.
I can understand the frustration with a sudden change in the Gnome UI. But I don't understand the depth or breadth of the rage.
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I'm happy enough with Gnome 3 as implemented in Fedora, and I thought Unity in Ubuntu was pretty decent. Neither is flawless, but I prefer either of them to any other desktop UI I've tried.
I can understand the frustration with a sudden change in the Gnome UI. But I don't understand the depth or breadth of the rage.
Perhaps because if I wanted a radically different desktop experience, I'd have liked to choose it myself rather than have it dumped on me without my say-so?
Gnome 3. WTF?
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maybe when I can download for free and install OSX to my Toshiba, Dell, e-machine, or any other computer produced in the last 15 years. And if i so choose replace OS component provided by the Apple that i want, like put in a different weather applet, or wifi synce. Maybe when i can for free submit my free app to be incuded in its software repositories/store, maybe when i can add another source to the repository list. or when they don't charge me to develop for their platforms. the list of thing that many Li
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maybe when I can download for free and install OSX to my Toshiba, Dell, e-machine, or any other computer produced in the last 15 years. And if i so choose replace OS component provided by the Apple that i want, like put in a different weather applet, or wifi synce. Maybe when i can for free submit my free app to be included in its software repositories/store, maybe when i can add another source to the repository list. or when they don't charge me to develop for their platforms. the list of thing that many L
In 2014.... (Score:2)
Re:In 2014.... (Score:5, Funny)
Creatures that steal underpants... for profit.
Screw the topic, here's what I use! (Score:2)
Obligatory post describing my preferred environment that is not GNOME 3.
Gnome 3 Distro? (Score:2)
I'm curious to give Gnome 3 a spin (not Unity). Can anyone recommend a relatively pure up to date Gnome Distro? preferably apt based?
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Thanks - I'll give it a spin in a VM
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Echoing SiriusStarr, make sure you install the tweak tool and get familiar with the shortcuts.
I complained like crazy when Debian Sid went to GNOME 3.0. I moved to XFCE + Compiz for awhile until I decided to give it another try. It took a few weeks to get used to, but now that I have retrained myself and gotten used to it, I wouldn't go back.
I don't think its for everyone and the fact that 3.0 was very unconfigurable is what gave everyone a heart attack. It's getting better. Some people will never like
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I'm surprised at the vitriol launched at the Gnome team for their release policy. It is especially ironic considering that most of the critics want to keep Gnome2, which followed the exact same policy: release a working base system first, then start working on configuration options and extensions/applets.
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It really won't behave well unless it can use hardware 3D acceleration, so keep that in mind when choosing a hypervisor.
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Ubuntu is planning to release a GNOME "remix" called (wait for it) GNOMEbuntu in October. I'm still not sure if this will land alongside Ubuntu 12.10 or a bit afterwards, but it should be a very comfortable way to play with GNOME3 if you like apt.
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As others have said, Fedora and Ubuntu Gnome Remix are good options. Just keep in mind however that both Fedora and Ubuntu time their releases so that they come in about 1 month after Gnome releases. In turn, Gnome releases are timed to be about 1 month after X.org releases. This is intentional, and is supposed to ensure that new versions of Gnome make it into the releases quickly.
The current versions are Fedora 17 and Ubuntu 12.04, which both ship with Gnome 3.4.
The next versions are Fedora 18 and Ubuntu 1
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I'm on Debian which is about as pure as it gets, but unfortunately they're in freeze at the moment so we probably won't see 3.6 for some time.
Could we hear from someone who has used it? (Score:2)
I'd like to hear from people who have used GNOME 3.6. Is it actually usable for sofware development?
Does it fit any kind of reasonable workflow?
Or is it just full of eye candy for the end-user?
-- hendrik
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I haven't used 3.6 yet, but I find 3.4 to be relatively friendly for dev work, especially with a couple extensions [gnome.org] and a couple trips to gnome-tweak-tool. One of the nice parts is that it works really well without having to use a mouse very much. They adopted the OSX-style alt+` to switch between windows in a single app. Also, using type-ahead find to launch or switch to apps is nice.
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Typical Douchebags out in force (Score:2, Interesting)
When I'm not on OS X my Linux boxes are happily testing and running KDE 4.8.2 and GNOME 3.4.2 from Debian. I look forward to 3.6 and especially the day I can modify the magnetic attraction to the upper left corner that takes control of my mouse when moving menu windows and I happen to miss. I also look forward to being able to not have my applications always launch and position themselves upper left (0,0) [relative to the menu top bar] of Gnome which often has me dealing with the mouse flying up and bringin
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There's an extension that lets you disable the top-left hot corner (actually there are a few).
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/118/no-topleft-hot-corner/ [gnome.org]
I tried it for a while but then I found it made me slower. These days if my mouse accidentally strays into the hot corner, I just quickly flick the mouse back there again and it goes back to normal (the hot corner can be used to get out of the overview as well as to get into it).
Personal experience with both Gnome3 and KDE (Score:4, Interesting)
Many of us are aware of KDE's strengths.. for me, configurability, familiarity, visual appeal, stability and speed. One can make the interface visually dense and informative. Scrolling cpu/memory/network stats, rotating yawp weather reports, and various application status indicators are on my desktop.
Gnome3 removes me from this. I love the way it dynamically manages the virtual desktops, and the clean 'distraction-free' environment. I feel like I can reach 'flow' easier here. Simply hitting the 'windows' key or snapping the mouse to the top-left corner to visually see the desktops and their running applications, dragging my emacs or xterm sessions around as needed. It gives me a different and visual way to logically organize and partition the tasks at hand. Yes, KDE and Unity both support these features, too, but in my experience they're not quite as clean. Also, Gnome3's notifications system is brilliant, and I'm looking forward to the enhancements found in 3.6.
While many of the complaints of Gnome3 are valid, I do appreciate that Gnome has had the courage to try something different and controversial. It works for me.
Don't waste your time with GNOME 3.6 (Score:5, Insightful)
It still sucks. Stick with MATE [mate-desktop.org].
Re:Don't waste your time with GNOME 3.6 (Score:5, Interesting)
I abandoned Ubuntu after it incorporated Unity. My loss of productivity was too big to continue using it. I was used to a functional desktop with Gnome 2. Gnome 3 is bad enough, but Unity? There is no way in hell I'm sticking with that. Hell, it's so bad I even thought about using Windows, and that's really something for someone who's been using Linux for about 17 years.
I found out Mint, a very nice distro, based on Ubuntu, made by people like me who couldn't stand Ubuntu+Unity. 2 flavores there, one using MATE (a fork of Gnome 2), and another running Cinnamon (a fork of Gnome 3, customized to look and function like Gnome 2).
I'm really happy after the switch. I'm back to having a functional desktop. I still miss Compiz for some stuff (screen glitches and some things missing), but I can live without it. I'm not going back to Ubuntu, or "upgrading" to Gnome 3.x.
After being bashed by so many people, I really don't know what Gnome devs got on their minds. We used to have something wonderful, and they stick going in the wrong direction (IMO, of course).
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I'd have thought someone who's used Linux for seventeen years would know one can use other desktops with Ubuntu. I'm an Ubuntu user who uses it with Gnome Panel, and it's so much like Gnome 2 that I see no meaningful difference.
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Fair enough, it's entirely possible Gnome Panel is no different for me than Gnome 2 because my workflow differs from yours. So far I've been able to route around Ubuntu's changes fairly easily, but if I couldn't then I too would be pretty frustrated.
Re:Don't waste your time with GNOME 3.6 (Score:5, Interesting)
I abandoned Ubuntu after it incorporated Unity. My loss of productivity was too big to continue using it.
I don't have a problem with Unity. It works well enough to install Kubuntu, which I do immediately, then I can sit back with popcorn and watch the Unity devs continue on their voyage of discovery. I'm even willing to admit that Unity has some cool ideas, provided I'm not forced to use it. From time to time I log into it and play around a bit, then go back to KDE pretty soon. Which does exactly what I want in exactly the way I want to do it.
Re:Don't waste your time with GNOME 3.6 (Score:5, Informative)
You post should be reworded:
Attention all linux users: This is the solution you have been looking for!
I installed it 10 minutes after seeing your post. This is what you have been looking for if you want a linux workstation again. I've been using XFCE4 for a year or so. Mate worked correctly on top of ubuntu 12.04. It has the polish that Andy Hertzfeld put into nautlius. The original look and feel is back. It's really excellent. This is the bar to start from.
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I came here to say this. Instead I'll second.
Add nautilus back in to get my prefered file manager back (1 apt-get), change the keybinds so I've got my 4 virtual destops on my normal keybind (I like CTRL+ALT+(left|up|down|right) for desktops 1,2,3,4 and + shift to move with window, but that is just my preference. I use the virtual desktops a LOT), and... really that is it. Install my dev suite (same old same old, do it anywhere, Xubuntu to debian) and... happy me! Got my productivity back. I like it even bet
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If you use virtual desktops a lot perhaps you would enjoy the setup I use: a 3x3 grid with keybindings to the numpad (CTRL+KP_7 -> desktop 1 ... CTRL+KP_3 -> desktop 9 [spatial mapping]). And CTRL+KP_0 focus the windows demanding attention (IM chats, for instance).
In 12.04 I was able to set this up again, so I don't complain too much about Unity. But just after 11.04 I had to switch to LXDE + Compiz.
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Both DE are fine, i personally choose Gnome because i like C over C++, it is clutter free and if i want to change something i can always edit the the text file configuration or hack the code. Real powerusers do not complain about a mere desktop environment...
C and C++? Bah! Real programmers write in FORTRAN [pbm.com]!
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Because having an easy way to manage wireless network roaming, Bluetooth, fast-user switching, audio and system power (battery/AC) and removable media without writing scripts or integrating it all yourself is desirable.
Re:After years (Score:4, Interesting)
And good network-transparent file managers (and file dialogs). And a wallet to remember your passports. And desktop search, and integrated utilities. And app launchers more clever than xterm, and the magic that is alt-F2 with launchers. Seriously, under KDE, you can do "Alt-F2 ; =1V*1A" and it answers 1W. How cool is that ?
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fast-user switching
Something that I always regret using because it is full of nasty bugs. I've sworn it off for at least another year.
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Oh, sorry. I didn't realise you enjoy wasting time manually configuring such basic system services.
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Currently my KDE 4.9.1 is broken due to latest (4.83?) or thereabout libqt which broke by some patch from webkit or whatever.
Anyway, so I'm currently in razor-qt. And saved 300 MB or thereabout of RAM by doing so.
Also it starts within the second.
(Razor-qt + openbox so kwin won't crash.)
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Re:After years (Score:4, Insightful)
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Just work? Networkmanage is as trustable as the average windows' network administrator...
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For the 50th time: Unity doesn't replace GNOME, it only replaces GNOME Shell, which is a single component of GNOME 3. Unity actually uses the GNOME platform "under the hood".
I suppose you also think RPM is comparable to APT (as opposed to dpkg)?
Huh? (Score:3)
Unity (the Ubuntu shell, not the game engine) is based on Gtk, not Qt.
There was a Qt version, but it's no longer developed.
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Qt becoming LGPL did not make GTK obsolete, but GNOME dropping its goals of becoming a 'Networking Object Modelled Environment' certainly did. One compelling reason to look @ GNOME was that it would be another object oriented UI, like maybe OS/2 or NEXT, but that goal got dropped. And once it got dropped, there was no more reason to stick w/ GNOME.
During the time I was using Linux, I tried both GNOME 2.3 and KDE 3.5. I was amazed @ some of the things I could do in the KDE Kontrol Panel, and also the fa
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Yup, I really wonder what RedHat is going to do.
Keep GNOME2 and maintain it? Mate? KDE? XFCE?
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I realize I might be falling for a troll here, but tell me what parts you consider batshit crazy and I'll tell you if I've found any extensions or options in gnome-tweak that might unbreak that for you. (Been using GNOME Shell for most of a year now)
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Sorry for calling you a troll. There's just a lot of noise in this thread from GNOME3 haters and a total lack of specifics. It seems like most people have decided they hate GNOME3 and not much can change their mind. About removing functionality from the core for people to re-add as extensions: I have mixed feelings about that myself. That aside most of what you're looking for is definitely available as extensions if you do decide to try GNOME again:
not having a normal task bar down the bottom
Looks like Frippery Bottom Panel [gnome.org] would do the trick.
not having a normal menu at the top
Axe me [gnome.org]
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There really is a lot of "OMG! Someone moved my food dish" going on. The move from ed to vi must have really shook them up as well. _
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The Gnome team broke a bunch of stuff in the name of "progress" while removing useful features. Gee, I wonder why people had an adverse reaction. It's like they actually wanted to use their computer for applications instead of being forced to learn a new interface with less functionality.
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The Gnome team broke a bunch of stuff in the name of "progress" while removing useful features. Gee, I wonder why people had an adverse reaction. It's like they actually wanted to use their computer for applications instead of being forced to learn a new interface with less functionality.
... while also creating a very nice, slick, and minimalist workflow. Now almost every feature that was removed is either back in core (albeit adapted to the new desktop), available as an extension or as an option in gnome-tweak-tool. Now I'd understand if people were complaining about still missing feature XYZ or saying how the new workflow is less optimal than the old one for managing windows, but that's not what's happening. Instead there's a whole bunch of people who seem to take any GNOME article as a c
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Instead there's a whole bunch of people who seem to take any GNOME article as a chance to complain loudly without citing any specifics and mention how they switched to something entirely different without even mentioning what it does better.
Because they really pissed people off with the way they handled Gnome 3. It was arrogant and reckless. The Gnome hate isn't going to go away for a long, long time.
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Heh. So the GNOME haters are going to host an indefinite protest to try and drown out any GNOME-related discussion in verbal noise? Well that sounds super mature. The whole GNOME3 thing is a textbook case of the GPL serving one of its intended purposes: Letting the users fork the code if they don't like the direction the project is going. That happened. The fork is called Mate. There's no need for any more animosity.
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So the GNOME haters are going to host an indefinite protest to try and drown out any GNOME-related discussion in verbal noise?
Yup, at least for a while. That's the nature of animosity. It also doesn't help when one of the highlight features of the new version is a clock widget.
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I guess I expected more from /. . Somehow I remember the desktop/editor/distro flamewars being a bit more technical in nature. Maybe that's just me looking at the past with rose colored glasses. Either way, it makes me feel old.
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I think the goal is to get there, but they obviously need some iterations.
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I'm finding that a lot of the desktop environments I hated at first are starting to mature, especially Gnome 3 and Unity.
Re:So much hatred for it... (Score:4, Interesting)
Have you looked at the direction Gnome kept after 3.0? As TFA speaks about 3.6, Nautilus changes are a prime example. They break four things for one being fixed.
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Ah. Finally managed to track that down. I guess most of the stuff they're removing is stuff I either rarely or never use. I'm sure if one installed the Nautilus fork Nemo it would play nice with the rest of the GNOME desktop.