Moscow Plane Crash Caught On Passerby's Dash Cam 253
acidradio writes "Yesterday a Tupolev 204 (Russian-made aircraft equivalent to an Airbus 321 or a shortened 757) overran the runway at Moscow Vnukovo airport and crashed into a nearby highway. A plane crash is always bad, but what makes this seem different is how well it was recorded. It seems like everyone in Russia has a dashcam, here is footage. A driver who just happened to be driving by on the nearby M3 highway (right about here on the map) is pelted by flying nose wheels and a row of coach-class seats! An accident like this has probably never been filmed so up close. We are getting better and better at recording accidents and disasters (whether by coincidence due to overuse of surveillance or maybe on purpose). What does that say about our level of documentation and recording of people's everyday lives? And what's the deal with dashcams in every Russian car?"
One word: Lawsuits (Score:4, Insightful)
Seriously, Dash Cams are the best defense against scam artists.
Re:One word: Lawsuits (Score:5, Interesting)
Seriously, Dash Cams are the best defense against scam artists.
Or to prove that you weren't the culprit. Have a look at these videos, taken from my own dashcam in San Jose, CA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BgkCUbeuck [youtube.com]
This is my wife driving. Watch the grey SUV on the right lane at 00:09.
Or the "best" one I ever caught: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9g7H0-NelI [youtube.com]
Skip to 00:50 for the action. You can clearly see the red car turning left on a red light. After the accident I provided first aid until CHP arrived (none of the injured had life threatening injuries). I lived close to the accident site so I drove home and burned the 1080p video on a DVD and gave it to the police.
Two months later I get a call from the insurer of the red car. Apparently they were unaware of the existence of the video: "Are you sure you saw that the light was red? Are you really really sure? Really??". So I answer "I got it on video on my dashcam". "Oh, ok, thanks -click".
Re:One word: Lawsuits (Score:5)
Seriously, Dash Cams are the best defense against scam artists.
Or to prove that you weren't the culprit. Have a look at these videos, taken from my own dashcam in San Jose, CA:
The Youtube page says you're using a dod-tec GS600 dashcam -- are you happy with it? The Amazon page [amazon.com] for the camera has mostly 1 star ratings.
I'm looking for a good, relatively inexpensive dash-cam. Something small that I can "set-and-forget" - mount it on the windshield, run 12V power to it and be reasonably confident that it's going to record everything without me needing to check on it or replace SD cards.
Re:One word: Lawsuits (Score:5, Informative)
The Roadhawk is the best implementation of a black box camera I have seen. It has enough on-board backup power to write the necessary EOF so that the actually crash video isn't corrupted (that's where the dod-tec apparently fails). It stores incident (accelerometer triggered) video files in a separate folder so that aren't eventually written over. It creates 60 sec. standard MP4 video files that can be played anywhere, yet those same files when read with Roadhawk's Windows software also show accelerometer graphs, speed of travel, and GPS maps. "Incident" files get written as 20 sec MP4 files with the triggering incident at the 10 second point in the file. Yes, they sell to US customers also.
Re:One word: Lawsuits (Score:5, Interesting)
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Two words: Car Computer (Score:3, Informative)
"I'd hate to have someone entirely at fault for hitting me try to claim contributory negligence on my part based on my own recorded evidence".
Well I hope you drive a pre 1980's car then, because if a fatality is involved the authorities will take a dump from your car computer which will tell all.
So you really don't have a reason to be paranoid, because your car's computer is there to rat you out anyhow.
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Earlier this year I was driving down the street and was suddenly hit by an old lady who was parked at the curb and suddenly pulled out to make a U-turn. Fortunately, as soon as our cars came to a crunching stop, I jumped out and snapped photos with my
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I have one and they are teh crap.
It often freezes up, recording nothing until you notice (blinkylight is not blinking) and press the reset button. The fact that it has a reset button should have made me suspicious. Sometimes it freezes up in such a way that I need to reformat the memory card in order to get it going again.
So, you can't rely on it to have recorded anything in case you do have an accident. Not good.
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I had problems with it recording sometimes as well, but then I got a Class 10 SD card and have had a 99% capture rate.
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Both my friend and I bought the DOD GS600... one came with a bum controller, but we had the other one to use for setting it up. They've been reliable with very few lost videos (if it's in the middle of a 1 minute block and you shut off the car it may lose that clip.) Interestingly enough, we've had better luck using 5 minute blocks of video.
We got it because it claimed 1080p video. We've mainly been using it in 720p because it looks about the same (ie: you can't read plates unless you are right up on the
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I use a standard 4 channel home security recorder and mount a couple of standard home security cameras. Usually at least one over the rear view mirror, facing forward, and one facing to the rear.
The DVR, like most others, is 12V so it is trivial to wire into the system so it comes on automatically. With a 500MB drive, it keeps about two weeks of recordings.
The whole setup runs under 200 USD, 100USD for the DVR and about 35USD each camera.
I haven't caught anything exciting, but I did recently "shame" a loca
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This is my wife driving. Watch the grey SUV on the right lane at 00:09.
I think your wife singing in the car is funnier. You could have cut this video at 00:10.
Re:One word: Lawsuits (Score:5, Funny)
This is my wife driving. Watch the grey SUV on the right lane at 00:09.
In my country we either sound our horn for one long continuous 30 second blast to publicly shame the offender, or simply allow the accident and claim vast sums of $currency for whiplash injury compensation. I think you guys could learn from this.
Re:One word: Lawsuits (Score:5, Insightful)
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Wow your videos hit a bit too close to home for me! I drive down that road in your first video all the time. I've also been considering getting a dashcam for the same reason you have one. My only concern is finding one that doesn't require a lot of fuss. I'm looking for something that auto-activates when the car is on and shuts itself off when the car is off. Ideally it'd roll over the video too, only keeping a memory of the last X hours. That way I only have to do anything with the dashcam when I actually
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I've seen wrecks where people would back up into another car to deliberately cause an incident. Were it not for witnesses who chose to stay there and gave statements, the police would have faulted the completely wrong parties.
I'm all for a good TV cam. If it is someone else's fault, it means that it is caught on film in full HD for a jury and insurance to look at. If it is my fault, that is what insurance is for. Using a TV cam means that in general, I am gambling that a wreck is going to be someone els
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The DOD GS600 (the one the op uses) supports all that. I have one as well. I just get in the car and leave it plugged in. when it gets power it automatically starts recording to the SD Card and when it's out of space it will delete the oldest.
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Or the "best" one I ever caught: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9g7H0-NelI [youtube.com]
Skip to 00:50 for the action. You can clearly see the red car turning left on a red light. After the accident I provided first aid until CHP arrived (none of the injured had life threatening injuries). I lived close to the accident site so I drove home and burned the 1080p video on a DVD and gave it to the police.
Two months later I get a call from the insurer of the red car. Apparently they were unaware of the existence of the video: "Are you sure you saw that the light was red? Are you really really sure? Really??". So I answer "I got it on video on my dashcam". "Oh, ok, thanks -click".
Is there a separate left turn control for the red car? Because I watched the video and I saw green lights for traffic in both directions.
Regardless, the red car obviously turned left whilst it was unsafe to do so, so they are still responsible. It's just that I can't determine any red light.
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Take a look at this screen grab [imgur.com]. I've circled the left turn control signals. They're clearly red as the car is coming into the intersection.
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Take a look at this screen grab [imgur.com]. I've circled the left turn control signals. They're clearly red as the car is coming into the intersection.
Can such a device offer any proof that the resulting image (and in particular screen grabs) have not been tampered with? Changing that light from green to red would be a few minutes work with any decent image manipulation software.
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It depends on your standards of "proof". Good enough for a US court? Yes.
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In this instance a there will be other evidence to back up the video: the sequencing of the lights will follow certain patterns for instance, so changing the colour of lights in the video is likely to create a sequence that simply isn't possible. In most cases where video or photographic evidence is accpeted, it is used in conjunction with other evidence rather than trusted on its face value alone because of how m
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if you want to link to some specific moment in youtube clip, add timestamp to the url in the following format: #t=XmY (X minutes Y seconds, though seconds alone work too)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BgkCUbeuck#t=0m9 [youtube.com]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9g7H0-NelI#t=0m50 [youtube.com]
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And if we're picking nits, she ended up going 52 MPH in a 45 MPH zone. :)
GP: Thanks for posting the vids. Very cool.
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Nah, that was just a poor joke. :) Had she been going 52 and collided with the SUV, I assume the SUV's insurance company would successfully argue that she was double-digit percent at fault for the accident.
I used to work for a guy that always speeded (sped?). He could never figure out why people always cut him off changing lanes or by pulling out in front of him. He just couldn't understand that other drivers don't expect and aren't used to other vehicles going must faster than the speed limit.
Re:One word: Lawsuits (Score:4, Insightful)
I speed - and I am not angry in the slightest when someone pulls out in front of me & cuts me up. It's very, very rare I ever brake hard (I don't remember the last time I did) when it's not just me on the road.
When you're going quickly, you've got to anticipate people pulling out in front of you. If you don't, you should not be going quickly. You should not blame people going a reasonable speed moving into the overtaking lane in front of you, if you're going quick. It's very easy to do - you do not expect someone to be approaching from behind quickly.
People who speed then blame others is moronic IMO. However, people who do stupid stuff then blame people who speed is also moronic.
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i also do not see the light controlling the intersection for the red car.
it's off-screen on the left the entire time.
from the video alone it might be red or green.
but perhaps with special knowledge of the intersection's patterns, the light's color could be deduced.
for example, perhaps the green lights for the left-to-right moving traffic implies that the red car's turn lane had a red.
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If you look along the pole holding the lights for the right to left traffic you can see there are two lights for left turning traffic just as there are for the opposite direction. While not the clearest, they are definitely red.
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I can see it. Switch to 1080p and fullscreen. You can see the two red lights controlling the two left turn lanes in the red car's direction of travel. You can also see that the opposing traffic has "straight" green lights as the red car is entering the intersection tho those lights pass out of frame before the accident.
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You must not be driving much, huh? There's no point in honking the horn after the fact. Expletives can't undo what has happened either.
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No, they're the best defense against police. When a policeman pulls you over and tries to extract a bribe, the dash cam is how you prove that you didn't follow too close, change lanes too suddenly, or whatever.
dom
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You will see what I will do of your dash cam and your silly evidence next time I stop you AC.
Your friendly neighborhood sheriff.
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"streamed to the internet" what do you mean?
-Your friendly neighborhood sheriff.
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Oh, that's what my teckie deputy-sheriff was talking about when he said he was installing a jamming system in the county to prevent dash cam "streaming".
I think the county is safe and secure thanks to him.
-Your friendly neighborhood sheriff.
Re:One word: Lawsuits (Score:5, Interesting)
To start, I'm an American, living in the United States.
I started recording all my driving a few months ago. I got a red light ticket, and I specifically remember the light being green until it was out of view, obscured by the roof of my car.
I've also been in car accidents, where people lie about what happened. There have also been incidents where the police make wild claims about my driving which just weren't true. "Careless driving" where you were swerving in the lane is hard to argue in court, but easier with video proof.
My logic is, rather than let my word stand up in court, let the video testify for me.
Since I'm recording with my phone, it eliminates any question of if I'm texting or talking on the phone while I'm driving. I can't. The phone is busy recording. If I had a second phone, you'd hear me talking. The only talking you hear is the radio, or if I dictate license plates.
I'm using the Android app "Torque Recorder". It's not perfect. Well, it's much less than perfect. It does record my OBDII information, but when it encodes to combine the data, the data and video skew. It's about 5 seconds in 15 minutes of driving. It also sucks down the battery in my phone horribly. In a 2.1A charger in the car, it drops about 2% in 30 minutes. Without charging, it will have sucked about 90% of the battery in 30 minutes.
The other problem is the video quality. It's fine for seeing which car did what, and ambient noises. You can't read license plates. That's why I dictate the occasional license plate. If someone is driving badly, and I think there might be a problem, I already have the plate dictated which can be heard on playback. It also gets confused about focus. There's no setting for manual focus, and sometimes it'll focus back to the windshield rather than the objects in front of the car. Like, if it's raining, the focus changes from windshield to cars when the wipers sweep by.
Sometimes the Torque Recorder encoding program can't actually encode the stored video. The video is just MP4, so it's fine. It just doesn't have the vehicle data included. If it had to go to court, I can provide the data file, since it's just a CSV.
So far, I've been lucky. There have been some lunatics. I've had to make extreme maneuvers to avoid them, but so far there has been no accident. Lately, I've caught the end result of two accidents resulting in fatalities (after the police arrived, not the accident itself), and lots of smoke from people locking up their tires skidding to a stop just short of accidents.
I don't worry about it while I'm driving. I just have to remember to start it when I start driving, and stop it when I get to my destination.
Since it's recording some select OBDII information, I have my throttle position and actual ground speed recorded, rather than trusting the
I intend to work on my own app, and hopefully fix the video quality, battery life, and encoding problems.
Hopefully I'll never be "lucky" enough to catch a plane crash.
Frosty piss? (Score:5, Interesting)
Easy answer to this - I was working in Moscow all this year. If you have an accident, you HAVE to wat for the police to come to make an official report, (otherwise your car insurance will not pay out).
When they get there, the person with the biggest bribe gets the favourable report...
So, better to have a dashcam...
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Yeah, yeah..."wait"', sorry...fucking virtual keyboards...
Re:Frosty piss? (Score:5, Funny)
Easy answer to this - I was working in Moscow all this year. If you have an accident, you HAVE to wat for the police to come to make an official report, (otherwise your car insurance will not pay out).
When they get there, the person with the biggest bribe gets the favourable report...
So, better to have a dashcam...
That's a good thing, too. I imagine that the airline could afford a bigger bribe than the dashcam driver.
Dashcams (Score:3, Interesting)
Dashcams provide proof of what happened in a culture full of corrupt law enforcement officers.
Re:Dashcams (Score:5, Interesting)
Someone once told me that in Russian the words for yield/give way and surrender are identical and Russians surrender to nobody. Don't know if that's true. Not sure I want it to be....
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And - it has regrettably to be said - in a culture full of batshit-insane drivers.
No joke. There are some pretty crazy Russian dashcam/streetcam compilations on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFw1dpGw9uQ [youtube.com] (0:55).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkvX9SVAlk0 [youtube.com]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTb4CGhp_eo [youtube.com]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XB-B3Bqsm4 [youtube.com] (2:52, 8:30)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiBLfLcUmZs [youtube.com] (11:02)
It seems to be a combination of driving too fast for conditions (and/or bald tires) and assuming everyone else will jump the hell out of your way.
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No joke. There are some pretty crazy Russian dashcam/streetcam compilations on Youtube.
What is this word "blyad" that I keep hearing on those videos?
Re:Dashcams (Score:5, Informative)
Its a typical swear word, used similar to how we use "shit" or "fuck". Other common ones are "yo moyo" "yob tvoyu mat" "pizdetz" and "kazul". Last one means literally "goat" and you shout it at other drivers who cut you up and stuff while making a variety of hand signals.
Driving in Russia is a fun game, but not for the faint of heart. Generally any drive of more than a kilometer or two around a city will enable you to see an accident or three.
If you are in an accident it usually takes several hours for the police to arrive, which is just lovely when the temperature is -20 or -30.
A previous poster mentioned that whoever gives the bigger bribe gets the better report, and its pretty true. Most road police will accept bribes, even though there was a big purge against corruption in my city a few years ago, things got a little better after that. Having a car video is a definite good idea.
Re:Dashcams (Score:4, Insightful)
And if proof matters, you don't yet know the real meaning of corruption.
Dash car cams (Score:5, Informative)
The dash car cams is because of a law that allows people to sue the driver if they get hurt. Lots of people pretend and pretty much jump in front of slow moving cars because its one of the easiest way to make money
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Not if the judgment goes to your estate.
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How come USA does have this law? :(
In Soviet Russia... (Score:5, Funny)
In Soviet Russia, plane boards YOU!
Dash cams are in Russia because.. Russia's Russia. (Score:4, Interesting)
The driving in Russia is absolutely horrible. That's precisely the reason why so many people over there have dash cams.
As a matter of fact, as with anything else, there are a number of compilations of Russian dashcam videos that show some pretty outrageous things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlxHPJAONpE
No wrecks in any other country have anything on Russia. Seriously.
have you never seen this? (Score:5, Informative)
Russian pedestrians diving under cars to try and get compensated for an accident.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c12_1349902324
Re:have you never seen this? (Score:4, Insightful)
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The real question though is, did they fine the pilot for littering?
Considering the pilot was killed, no. A fifth person died so keep the jokes coming.
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Never too soon. Got to be a joke in 'Red Wings' (Red Wings are traditionally awarded for chewing a woman on her monthly).
Re:Exaggeration (Score:4, Informative)
If you watch it in slow motion, you see an intact jet fuselage disappear (probably into a ditch) and then see the results of it slamming into the other side with debris flying up and over. That was the real crash, not the plane 4 wheeling off-road after overrunning the runway. I assume there were some kind of arresting barriers but if those wheels were from the nose gear the barriers sure didn't do much. The moments before this video were probably boring with the plane simply continuing on past the runway. The final impact was the money shot. Another angle would have been Hollywood perfect but in real life you take what you can get.
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Every Russian has a dash cam because.... (Score:5, Interesting)
Every Russian has a dash cam because the insurance company and courts there have a history of not paying out a dime unless you have proof. Where Americans seem to think in a "reasonable doubt" methodology from our courts, in Russia it's apparently "any doubt at all" and you lose. So if someone hits you while you're parked and they show up and say you ran into them you'd better have video or witnesses or something or no money for you!
Other countries seem to have systems that skew that way, and thus more dash cams (China, Taiwan, Korea), but not the quantity of videos. I think that's due to the bad Russian driving, there's simply more wild videos coming out of Russia than anywhere else!
Over at Jalopnik [jalopnik.com] there is an entire section devoted to Russian dash cams [jalopnik.com]. If you waste the next few hours watching them all it's not my fault!
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Every Russian has a dash cam because the insurance company and courts there have a history of not paying out a dime unless you have proof. Where Americans seem to think in a "reasonable doubt" methodology from our courts, in Russia it's apparently "any doubt at all" and you lose. So if someone hits you while you're parked and they show up and say you ran into them you'd better have video or witnesses or something or no money for you!
Other countries seem to have systems that skew that way, and thus more dash cams (China, Taiwan, Korea), but not the quantity of videos.
That sounds pretty crazy.
Car accidents never go to court in Australia, one of the two drivers always freely admits to being at-fault and their insurance company always pays out (or else the two insurance companies will sue each other).
If both drivers claim to be innocent, then it will go to court — and the punishment for lying to a police officer about events during the crash will be so harsh, nobody within a few degrees of separation will ever dare try it again. Jail time for sure.
If possible, and if
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I wanted to have a system that notices when my parked car is bumped and takes photos/videos of everything around it. Then I realized that if someone dented it opening their door (car park spaces keep getting smaller, cars keep getting bigger) it wouldn't capture their number plate and would thus be useless.
A simpler option would be to just record any movement events with an accelerometer. By noting the exact time of the bump you could then request CCTV footage of the incident from the car park operator (law
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Or just realise that you regularly leave your car unattended outside, at the mercy of nature and people in the area, and don't worry about small dents and scratches. Leave the dents there and just polish off the scratches to prevent rust. Cars need to look shiny and pristine only if you're foolish enough to believe everything the marketing department tells you.
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Or just realise that you regularly leave your car unattended outside, at the mercy of nature and people in the area, and don't worry about small dents and scratches. Leave the dents there and just polish off the scratches to prevent rust. Cars need to look shiny and pristine only if you're foolish enough to believe everything the marketing department tells you.
My car got bumped a few days ago and now the backup object sensor is giving "false positives". Yeah, first world problems, but now I have to decide if the beep is bogus or my kid is behind the car. I'll have to fix it $$$ or turn it off and validate about what's behind me like I did for 31 years and humans have done for about 250 years but that's one of the safety features that made me buy this particular car after spawning. I don't give a hoot about the missing paint on the bumper or the four year old dent
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What? It wasn't a good idea to put an expensive part into a 'bumper'? Who could have guessed?
Nav systems, backup cams etc are exactly like stereos, you are a fool to pay the OEM their price.
Why clean is good (Score:2)
Cars need to look shiny and pristine only if you're foolish enough to believe everything the marketing department tells you.
Never heard of the broken window theory, have you?
It works on the owner too. It's nothing to do with marketing, I keep my car washed regularly because if you care enough to keep the car clean, you are also thinking about other issues - like should I get the oil changed yet, should I ignore that noise etc.
It also helps you notice things like scratches earlier so you can take care of th
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Depends on where you live. In many parts of the world cars don't rust quickly enough to matter even if the paint gets scraped.
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Depends on where you live. In many parts of the world cars don't rust quickly enough to matter even if the paint gets scraped.
And in other parts of the world (like much of the US north) they pour so much salt on the roads in the winter that it isn't going to make any damn difference, unless you're touching up those scratches on the underside and hard-to-get-at places, where the salt works its magic. The body will probably last 15 years and then rust out, no matter how much you touch up and wax the outside surfaces, because that's not where the killer rust occurs.
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japanese do take very good care of their cars for t
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Dashcams (Score:5, Interesting)
Apparently, dashcams are as popular as GPS devices in Russia, and you can get a basic model for an equivalent of about 40 euros, and an advanced model is as pricey as an advanced GPS is (with nice features). And the reason to get one can be seen in Youtube, if you are pretty much run into by a car with government plates you better have some hard evidence that you were not the culprit. As the traffic is often worse than in southern Europe (where there is a lot of honking and hand-waving, even "pushing it through" but people are used to minor dents in cars in cities and they don't often care) compared to the fact that there is a lot of high-priced cars in Russia and insurance money is big factor, plus as an added bonus police can be corrupt and the one with biggest handout on the scene gets the money from the insurance because of the police report.
I live near a pretty busy skiing resort in Finland where there are a lot of Russian tourists this time of year. Most of them do drive responsibly. And I urge you to do so here abroad (we have a pretty decent police who can write accurate reports if there is an accident and are not for sale) as well as home. There is no rush here, just relax on the Sunday-traffic off the resort. Don't be a jerk in traffic, really.
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-- the Concorde crash [wikipedia.org] after takeoff at Charles De Gaulle airport; has footage of the flames coming out of the engines
-- whenever there's a light-airplane, experimental airplane crash that occurs soon after takeoff (i.e. right near the airport runwa
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Apparently, dashcams are as popular as GPS devices in Russia, and you can get a basic model for an equivalent of about 40 euros, and an advanced model is as pricey as an advanced GPS is (with nice features).
This is the case for anyone to whom DealExtreme ships... It's about a hundred bucks for one worth owning, though.
And what's with dashcams in every Russian car? (Score:3)
Front car ESP? (Score:2)
I wonder, did the driver of the car hit by the wheel had remarkable driving skills or the car was stabilized by the ESP?
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Are you thinking Ryan Air, perhaps?
Plane crashes on video (Score:2)
It's not like people haven't crashed planes to see what happens [discovery.com] and filmed it from all sorts of angles.
amazing that there are not more cams at airports (Score:2)
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A row of coach-class seats? (Score:2)
video of the Concorde Flight 4590 crash (Score:2)
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-- the Concorde crash [wikipedia.org] after takeoff at Charles De Gaulle airport; has footage of the flames coming out of the engines
-- whenever there's a light-airplane or experimental airplane crash that occurs soon after takeoff (i.e. right near the ai
Working video link (Score:2)
Youtube pulled it, but LiveLeak has the goods: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=16d_1356820592 [liveleak.com]
incriminate me? (Score:2)
Can the police (in some jurisdiction) subpoena the video when it may give evidence against me? Can they punish me for destroying the evidence? Can I hide the video unit so that they won't know I have it? Do any of these units broadcast a signal that can be detected by law enforcement or others? Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost over night?
disclaimer: I'm a good boy and haven't had an incident in decades, but just in case...
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Damn. If the Fins say your a bad driver then you are. They know all about bad drivers.
Kind of like when the Mexicans have to tell you to calm down.
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If you watch enough of these videos like I have on youtube, it's a free-for-all driving over there. Signs and traffic lights are pretty much optional
It's probably unfair to judge russian driving by video's uploaded to youtube. I mean if you record your driving 365 days a year and come across an idiot doing something really stupid on one day of that year, which days video is going to get put up on youtube? "driving to work. everyone behaving themselves. nothing eventful happened" is hardly going to get a lot of hits.
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Who says there are dashcams in every Russian car?
The huge number of Russian crash videos that keep popping up on Youtube and other places. They may not be in *every* car, but there sure seem to be a lot of them.
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http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_sc_0_7?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=dash+cam&sprefix=dashcam [amazon.com]
Re:Dashcams (Score:5, Interesting)
I'd argue it's the opposite: It is because the relevant parts of American culture is/was ahead of many nations such that our police force and citizens are/were, on average, more honest than those in places where dash cams are more common and necessary.
You could try to counter this by saying that there's been a regression in society these days but that would only deflect the argument to a completely separate but debatable subject of its own.
The other replies ahead of mine have also already pointed out that dashcams are (and have been) available for sale in the US for quite some time. They just aren't very commonly used by the general public. Many law enforcement agencies already have them installed as standard equipment on their cruisers.
Re:Over reactive driver - added to the tragedy (Score:4, Interesting)
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Not just expensive cars. It is (or at least, was) an option on the Nissan Versa (at one time the cheapest car in the USA).
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Re:Over reactive driver - added to the tragedy (Score:5, Interesting)
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The driver lost control because the car was hit by flying debris not visible on the dash-cam. After that he actually did a pretty good job of not making it worse.
Yeah for the serious. As if anyone here would react better when a motherfuckin plane crashes in front if them. JFC!
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He didn't lock the brakes, he was hit in the rear passenger side with large debris. You'd have heard it in the video if you'd have had your sound on. It caused his rear end to skid to the left, so he steers into the skid to keep the car going relatively straight. Good work by the driver. After all that, hitting another plane part lying on the road doesn't even matter.
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My SGS3 has a suitable forward facing camera, enough memory, is always in the right place at the right time, and 1 pic per second for 3 minutes is enough.
A relative of mine hit a bus, and was not sure what happened - witnesses were not sure and disagreed - the bus cam showed enough detail to be quite sure the bus driver stayed in lane, and she didn't.