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Samsung Launches 3200x1800 Pixel ATIV Book 9 Plus Laptop 397

sfcrazy writes "As expected Samsung has updated its Ultrabook family giving direct competition to Apple's MacBook Pro and MacBook Air. When Apple launched its MacBook Air with 12 hours of battery life every one was looking at only one company to outdo Apple and that company was Samsung and the leading Android maker did not disappoint. With the launch of ATIV Book 9 Plus featuring:

* 256GB SSD (seems 128GB would be the base model)
* 3200x1800 resolution
* Touch Screen
* Haswell Processor
* 12 Hours battery life
* More 'standard' ports as compared to Apple's proprietary ports."
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Samsung Launches 3200x1800 Pixel ATIV Book 9 Plus Laptop

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  • Resolution (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20, 2013 @09:57PM (#44066727)

    The high resolution is a major win over the Macbook Air. Typing this on a MBA and the one thing I wish it had was higher screen resolution.

    • by dbIII ( 701233 ) on Friday June 21, 2013 @04:53AM (#44068441)

      Typing this on a MBA and the one thing I wish it had was higher screen resolution.

      Me too, but I wish I had a table instead because the MBA won't keep still and keeps complaining he didn't go to college to be treated like this.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20, 2013 @10:00PM (#44066743)


    weighs only 1.39 grams

  • by dugancent ( 2616577 ) on Thursday June 20, 2013 @10:02PM (#44066755)

    Care to name them?

  • Proprietary ports? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Roogna ( 9643 ) on Thursday June 20, 2013 @10:02PM (#44066757)

    Which port is that exactly? The USB, the HDMI, the SD slot, or the Thunderbolt ports. All of which are standards.

    • by Guspaz ( 556486 )

      The mac air doesn't have an HDMI port, it has a MiniDP port. Which is still royalty free... Oh, and don't forget the headphone jack :)

      In fact, my mac air has more "standard ports" than the Ativ in the article is depicted as having (they mention/show nothing but a single USB, headphone, and HDMI).

      • the magnetic power cable port is proprietary.
        • by grub ( 11606 )
          I love that magnetic power port. It has definitely saved my Air from damage when the dog/girl run by and pull it out.
          • You know, a lot of people say this. And while it does accomplish that, the implication is that a regular power connector doesn't come out when you pull on it. My Acer laptop has a power connector that comes out just fine with a little bit of force on the cord.

            The MacBook is decent and the magnetic power port is an elegant design. It was a major pain when I somehow ended up with a tiny piece of metal stuck in it though. Had a challenging time trying to get it out. Can't shake it out because the magnet h

        • by Cinder6 ( 894572 )

          I've used an Apple laptop (exclusively) for years, so I have to ask--are power adapters standardized on PCs?

          As an aside, I love the Magsafe adapter. It's so much better than any other adapter I've used.

          • by Hadlock ( 143607 )

            Many laptops have standardized on a 20v power input, HP Dell and Lenovo all run on 20V DC, 3.5-6A generally for a 15" workstation. I think HP and Lenovo use a standard Barrel connector, but Dell changes every so often. The actual brick is compatible however. Some netbooks were 19v (HP mini in particular) but generally they will take 20v as well.

            Aftermarket laptop power adapters are cheeeeeeap. Like, $10 for commodity, $20 for name brand. I picked up a 12v car adapter for my Thinkpad for $20 shipped.

      • by Crudely_Indecent ( 739699 ) on Thursday June 20, 2013 @10:54PM (#44067061) Journal

        Mac Air:
        2xUSB 3.0, HP/Mic, SD (Air 13), Thunderbolt

        2xUSB 3.0, micro HDMI, mini VGA, RJ45(Dongle), SD, HP/Mic

        Ativ beats air by 2 video outputs and wired ethernet. Also by SD when compared to the Air 11.

        So, going by the dictionary definition of the word "more", I'd have to say the the Ativ beats the Air when it comes to standard ports.

        • by Cinder6 ( 894572 )


          Does it come with the dongle? If not, then you can't include that in your comparison. Not only does Apple offer both USB and Thunderbolt Ethernet adapters, you can also use any off-brand adapter you want. If you do want to include it, then the Air also offers HDMI, DVI, and VGA via dongles.

          • by rworne ( 538610 )

            You forgot to add Thunderbolt Firewire 800 to that list.

            What's also nice is these Apple adaptors are plentiful and readily available. I doubt it is the same for Samsung.

            If I were to get off a plane in a strange city and found I forgot a cable for my rMBP, I can get one at a local Best Buy, Fry's or Apple Store. I cannot say the same for proprietary Samsung cables (well, maybe Fry's has some Samsung love and BB would be a long shot).

          • bla bla bla, USB can also be HDMI, VGA, Ethernet and everything that thunderbolt offers. I don't consider anything that plugs into thunderbolt as a "dongle" but as an adapter, like any USB adapter.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by martinX ( 672498 )

          While micro HDMI and mini VGA might not be proprietary, if you expect to plug them into anyone else's displays and you aren't carrying an adapter cable, you're going to be disappointed. Samsung should have put in a Thunderbolt port and sold adapters.

          • by Guspaz ( 556486 )

            You'll need adapters if it's mini anything, really. As far as I know, there's only one thunderbolt display on the market (Apple's), and any normal display that supports displayport is probably full sized. So hooking up pretty much any laptop that doesn't have a full-sized port is going to require adapters, including Apple laptops.

            Luckily, miniDP adapters are pretty cheap. I've got a Mac Air, and I grabbed some adapters from monoprice. Adapters for DVI and HDMI are under seven bucks, VGA is under fourteen bu

          • Samsung should have put in a Thunderbolt port and sold adapters.

            At the very least they should have put in mini-DP. What's the point of a 3200x1800 monitor, and not having the ability to drive an external/second monitor even half that resolution? Micro-HDMI is cute, but it's incredibly limited in 2013. One mini-DP1.2 port would get you the ability to drive a 4K monitor, or easily convert it over to HDMI or VGA.

        • So... Ativ with RJ45 dongle = wired ethernet, but macbook air with RJ45 dongle = no mention?

          • If you're trying to call a USB ethernet adapter a dongle, then OK. In that case, the Ativ has 3 ethernet ports - one with the included dongle and 2 additional via USB. If you want to include a USB hub "dongle" it can have many more.

            http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC704ZM/A/apple-usb-ethernet-adapter [apple.com]

            Are we really going to start calling every USB device a dongle?

            I wrote about actual physical ports included with each machine. I did not include adapters because that's a ridiculous argument. Both systems c

    • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20, 2013 @10:08PM (#44066801)

      Thunderbolt is a standard now? Show me a non-Intel Thunderbolt host implementation then.

      Remember kids, calling something a standard doesn't make it a standard. Documenting it doesn't make it a standard. Documentation plus multiple independent implementations capable of interoperating makes it a standard.

      • by guruevi ( 827432 )

        There are AMD motherboards and non-Apple systems with Thunderbolt. The specification is open AFAIK, there are companies developing their own implementation.

      • by Hadlock ( 143607 )

        Google "lenovo thinkpad t430s" and see what comes up. It's not common, but they exist on the high end. I don't think you're going to see a low end laptop with an expensive to implement port on it.

  • by sqrt(2) ( 786011 ) on Thursday June 20, 2013 @10:02PM (#44066763) Journal

    ...and weighs only 1.39 grams

    Wow! It must be constructed from helium infused aero gels and space age nano-materials. Almost makes the horrible OS worth enduring. Almost.

  • WTF is a muktworld? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Sez Zero ( 586611 ) on Thursday June 20, 2013 @10:08PM (#44066799) Journal
    At least link to an article with more than 300 words. Review at CNET [cnet.com].
  • crap article (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Ritchie70 ( 860516 ) on Thursday June 20, 2013 @10:09PM (#44066815) Journal

    TFA is hideous. Poorly written and says nothing really factual except that Samsung has a sexy new laptop out.

  • Just for windows? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by gmuslera ( 3436 ) on Thursday June 20, 2013 @10:19PM (#44066867) Homepage Journal
    Does it runs Linux? Does gets bricked [dreamwidth.org] if try something different from Windows 8, or even windows 8 itself? With that resolution and battery life even Linus could love it [zdnet.com]... if can run his own system on it, of course.
    • I'd love this as a Linux laptop to replace my Acer ultraBook. I haven't seen any mention of a price though, and that worries me a bit. The Acers play quite nicely with Linux ... I hope Samsung sticks to fairly mainstream supported hardware for wireless, etc.

      • I haven't seen any mention of a price though, and that worries me a bit.

        If you have to ask...

  • You're kidding, right? Other than Facebook or playing FreeCell, what is it good for?

  • Price? (Score:5, Informative)

    by hahn ( 101816 ) on Thursday June 20, 2013 @10:39PM (#44066995) Homepage
    When they announce a price of $1299, we can start comparing this to the Macbook Air, okay?
    • Re: (Score:2, Redundant)

      Can't we just roll out all the old excuses we heard from the apple fans about how it may cost more but you get what you pay for?

  • Will it run Linux? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sconeu ( 64226 ) on Thursday June 20, 2013 @10:54PM (#44067059) Homepage Journal

    Or even Win7?

    Does it have the stupid-ass "Secure Boot"? Does it need to be disabled?

    DETAILS!!! Even the CNet article linked in the comments doesn't cover this.

    • *sigh* (Score:2, Insightful)

      To conform to the UEFI spec there must be a way to disable secureboot. Its really not a big deal. Yes your beloved AMD is just one of the other members of the UEFI group. Secureboot does as much as the TPM module that Slashdot claimed would kill Linux.

  • Be wary... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by djnanite ( 1979686 ) on Thursday June 20, 2013 @10:57PM (#44067077) Homepage
    I bought a Samsung Chronos Notebook a year ago, and it was a horrible experience.

    The touchpad broke twice.
    The headphone socket produced a buzz every time the laptop was plugged into the mains.
    The WiFi kept disconnecting
    Out of date drivers that have never been updated.
    No support for Windows 8.
    Terrible support staff who were either incompetent, lazy, or bored.
    Badly written system software: it takes a full 20 seconds to enable/disable the WiFi, no support for non-administrators, it's intrusive and yet it's also required for full system functionality.

    Even if all the hardware on this new model is up to scratch, nothing else has changed, and this deal will leave you sour. Basically, don't expect any real after-sales support in the way you probably expect it from most other laptop manufacturers. If you think of it as an appliance (like a TV) and never upgrade it, you *may* be fine.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      No support for Windows 8.

      Why'd you include that point with the list of failings? That's a feature.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) * <mojoNO@SPAMworld3.net> on Friday June 21, 2013 @03:40AM (#44068177) Homepage Journal

      I bought a MacBook air a year ago. The first one exploded to blew my hand off. The next one killed my dog. It wouldn't run DR-DOS at all. The wifi screwed up and sterilized my nuts.

      Overall I was left with a really bad feeling about all Apple products, which obviously must all have similar defects. Anecdotes by unverifiable semi-anonymous internet posters prove that to be true.

  • Will it run Windows 7? The hardware looks brilliant and the screen looks incredible. Samsung has ratcheted their game up considerably over the last several years. Unfortunately Microsoft has ratcheted theirs down just as far. The computer comes with Windows 8 and that is a deal breaker if it can't be replace with Windows 7.

  • ... another way of saying shiny screen.

    No thanks.

  • Other than OS X, what other OSes support high DPI displays that work well?

    Windows is relatively horrible - set it to 150% and yeah, it's usable, but it seems most apps don't properly handle it so you have text exceeding their bounding boxes constantly. Set it to 100% and it's squint central.

    Linux is no better - it just assumes a standard DPI display, and X is just.. horrible to deal with. Yeah, I can have a huge terminal window, but that's relatively useless to me because I want nice crisp text.

    Hell, Google

  • by bored ( 40072 ) on Friday June 21, 2013 @01:45AM (#44067799)

    Samsung announced a laptop last year with a >1080p screen (to lazy to google it). For about 6-8 months I regularly went to their site and searched google/ebay for one.

    Nada. It was just a paper release. Now this, maybe they will release it, but until I can click buy and have it shipped to my door in a couple days its just BS.

    Frankly, I can't really believe that the only manufacture making a laptop with a screen >150PPI is Apple. Every single PC manufacture thinks it ok to put a garbage screen on their crapbooks, and maybe grace the really high end ones with full 1080p, like its some kind of magic resolution. No wonder dell/HP are screwed, 3/4's of the tablets I look at have better resolutions than nearly every laptop sold at retail outside of an apple store.

    • That's what happens when you're hamstrung by Microsoft. Even now Windows is terrible with high DPI screens unless you restrict yourself to Windows Store environment applications. No one can move forward until Microsoft feels they're good and ready. And Microsoft isn't likely to fix the problems on the desktop.

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