Surgeon Uses Google Glass and iPad To Capture Live Procedure and Stream It 100
MojoKid writes "Google (and many other tech manufacturers lately), have been evangelizing the mantra that technology is here to enhance and improve our lives, not get in the way; in the truest sense to 'serve humanity.' Recent events and breakthroughs in the healthcare industry, which make use of leading-edge technology, illustrate this vision better than any marketing or ad campaign could ever possibly hope to. Dr. Rafael Grossman strapped on his Google Glass eyewear to become the first 'Glass Explorer Surgeon.' The procedure involved is called Gastrostomy, a process by which a surgeon inserts a feeding tube into a patient's abdomen. In this case, the good doctor performed the procedure endoscopically, such that he was able to display the entire procedure and the view of it directly as it was being performed. The opportunities for remote medical consultation, mentoring and even real-time guidance are obvious with the sort of technology that products like Google Glass bring to the table. It's always nice to hear stories of how not only 'quality of life' is improved but how lives are actually saved as a result of these magnificent inventions we create."
First Person (Score:2, Funny)
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There are some pretty nice helm camera vids of dutch marines taking a vessel from somali pirates somewhere on the internet. No shooting there though. I imagine glass would allow to take those one step further.
Not new (Score:5, Informative)
Oh wow, Google has invented a category of medical device that's existed for years!
There is nothing particularly innovative about "wearing a head-mounted camera during surgery" - surgeons have done it for years now.
The only thing "newsworthy" about this is that the "Google brand device" was used to do it.
Can't wait to see everybody slag off Google for claiming to have invented something that's been around for years, like they do Apple!
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They had to get it WORKING (Score:1)
.... and not have the process lockup 2 minutes after it started.
Besides, they probably use Bluetooth for communication and Android's support for real Bluetooth still sucks to this day.
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A GoPro or similar would have worked fine and had better visual quality.
Nothing (new) to see here, move along.
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Gopro, now partnering with Goatse!!
Proctological Assault. Showing you just why you should check for prostate cancer.
Interview with a fetus, See the world it lived in before being born.
Lung Cancer, showing what smoking really does to your body now in 3D 4K!!!!
Lot's of things to see, just whether or not you want to is the the question.
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GoPro like cameras are already used in medicine. They already have head mounted cameras like the GoPro for this purpose.
!Sterilization (Score:2)
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FWIW, the particular procedure chosen here was a feeding tube - i.e., a connection from the gut to the skin. The gut is inherently not sterile, and cannot be made so. The procedure is very low risk for infection anyway.
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What google has done has made this device that's "existed for years" and brought the price down from $50,000 down to under $2000. And any one in any profession can use this setup. From miners to model makers.
50k? loook man. it's a webcam ducttaped to his head. what they did was go from 300 bucks to 2000 bucks for this application.
this article is boring. not newsworthy and a cheap fucking plug for google glass.
next week "man shoots porno with google glass" well doh. how about an article about hacking the os and the native api's on the device instead? you know, something actually interesting..
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next week "man shoots porno with google glass" well doh. how about an article about hacking the os and the native api's on the device instead? you know, something actually interesting..
I submitted using Google Glass for first person perspective porn to Google during the #IfIHadGlass contest, they didn't like it.
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You clearly didn't see Scoble's Google Glass selfies while in the shower.
Unfortunately, in that case, the Goggles, zey did something.
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Who's been selling a head mounted camera for $50,000?
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Seriously, idiots think they get a deal when their insurance brings the $200 hopsital gown down to $100, even though it can be had online for $10. Fuck the chargemasters.
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Great! The NSA is watching our surgeries now!
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Yep, I was installing boxed systems that did this exact thing in southern Georgia in 2001. This isn't even a little bit new. They also had other cameras that tracked heads and would follow doctors around the room as needed for another view point.
Telemedicine is old news.
Focus (Score:1)
I'm not sure that I want my surgeon to Hangout with Glass any more than I want him checking Facebook on his iPhone. Sure this shows that it's "possible", in the same vein that it is "possible" to text and drive.
Why distract the surgeon to no advantage? If it's about telemedicine, you can easily set up cameras that are not attached to the surgeons face, and the endoscopic stream is already a video feed.
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How about (Score:5, Insightful)
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"Surgeon uses camera and computer to capture live procedure and stream it" ?
Problem: that's only slightly newer than "surgeon washes hands before operation". Though w/ the Google hype machine, they might be able to convince people that soap and water are revolutionary.
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Problem: this has been done for years. In some cases, it has been used as a way to get live consultation from a specialist over the internet thousands of kilometers away.
As a result, this wouldn't be news, this would be "business as usual". Which isn't going to get advertisement views.
Was it an iSore surgery? (Score:2)
FDA Approval (Score:5, Insightful)
Did the surgeon obtain FDA approval before using the glass.
Speaking as someone who has written code embedded in Class 2 and 3 medical devices, before Google Glass can become a formal and regular part of the medical environment, code auditors will need to climb all over inside the design. Code walk-throughs? Whole floors of testers validating all code that touches the device.
Count on it.
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Do they need to do it with cameras they use?
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Nope, and if the Google Glass is just a passive recorder, the FDA needn't get involved. If it has anything to do with the actual procedure, then all bets are off.
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I have freind who worked on Artifcal Heart Admin application. You now to keep inventory of devices. FDA had to do full code review and audit of that software. Got him to leave the gig in less than 3 months.
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This would be a class 1 device, if it were sold as a medical device, which it isn't. While there are lots of requirements on companies that want to sell medical devices to hospitals, the hospitals themselves are under much more relaxed rules when it comes to trying out new stuff.
Getting Google Glass past the FDA should not be too hard, as long as it is just recording. Once you start using it to overlay data and navigate, you enter class 2 territory, and that's when things get hairy.
(I worked on quality assu
hipaa violation? (Score:2)
that is no joking matter
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using an iDevice with a Google product is a 'Hipsta' violation.
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hipaa violation?
that is no joking matter
I know it's customary on Slashdot not to read the articles before commenting, but here is the relevant part:
Before starting the operation, I briefly recorded myself explaining the planned event, and once again, talked about the importance of not revealing any PHI (patient's health information).
Do you think he broke any those hipaa rules? [allnurses.com] Personally, I would have asked the patient to sign one additional release form (as permitted by hipaa) just in case an identifier like their face gets accidentally released on the stream, but otherwise, I do think the surgeon is appropriately covered assuming everyone followed his spoken instructions correctly.
don't screw up (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:don't screw up (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm torn on that one.
On the one hand, good. Patients deserve to KNOW if their doctor fucked something up. Every now and then you hear horror stories about sponges, clamps, and god knows what else being left inside a patient, or a doctor that removes the wrong body part. Video playback could also help in a malpractice defense in which the patient claimed the doctor was distracted, intoxicated, or made a critical error.
On the other hand, knowing that there's a camera and live feed watching your every move isn't something I'd want to deal with while I was elbow deep in someone's gizzard.
The act of observing something changes the behavior of the people being observed. I'm not sold on this, save in particular training circumstances.
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videoing every surgery has a good reason because every surgery is an experiment of sorts of what will happen.
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The fact that video can be used as proof, in any direction (innocence or guilty) is not a reason not to video, ever.
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Every now and then you hear horror stories about sponges, clamps, and god knows what else being left inside a patient, or a doctor that removes the wrong body part.
"given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow"
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What surgery happens without video today? Even my vet videos every surgery.
That ship sailed with insurance premiums.
Re:don't screw up (Score:5, Insightful)
Endoscopic procedures are always recorded. That image would show, in gory detail, if there was any problem. The Google Gas doesn't change anything.
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Too many viral Google commericals lately (Score:1)
first there's the movie (which was ok). Now....
"Recent events and breakthroughs in the healthcare industry, which make use of leading-edge technology, illustrate this vision better than any marketing or ad campaign could ever possibly hope to. "
Geez. That statement sort of sounds like a marketing ad in itself.
Technology can be useful for good and bad purposes. Well known concept.
This medical procedure is no different from strapping an action cam. And if you think about it, a Hero3+Wifi or even a Teradek wou
A brief response to the naysayers (Score:3, Informative)
can we do... (Score:5, Funny)
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Because they were using Google Glass ... which proves them stupid as there are existing superior methods of doing this sort of medicine and have been for at least 10 years.
Besides, since it uses Bluetooth they pretty much couldn't use any Android device could they? Wouldn't want it cutting out randomly due to shitty drivers. The inferior iPad is far more reliable in that aspect than anything you're trying to fanboy it up for.
Question of spelling? (Score:2)
Ambulance chasers are going wild now! (Score:2)
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Maybe, but I like the idea for the same reason why I like police having cameras.
As long as it's not "Lost" when a lawsuit turns up. Hell, you could and probably should, have it automatically deleted two years later. Pilots have their last 30 minutes of communication recorded in the black box. In case anything goes wrong we have an amazing amount of data to analyze. Why can't I have that if there's a problem during surgery.
Insurance would probably go down too. I mean have you seen all those commercials
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It just seems different to me because of the power issues. It seems helpful to have accountability for police not because they might make a mistake, but because with the power they have it is easy for them to abuse it. It seems to me that a doctor doesn't have that same power. I can't, atm, think of any incentive a doctor would have to give it anything less than his/her best effort. For a police officer, there are so many more factors involved.
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There have been cameras in ORs recording whats going on in any hospital that isn't in the middle of Kenya for years.
This is in no way anything new.
As I see it. (Score:1)
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The surgeon/hospital would've gotten permission from the patient first -- recording & sharing OR videos has been going on for decades in university teaching hospitals, and from experience, those places are *very* careful to ask permission for just about anything educational.
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The surgeon/hospital would've gotten permission from the patient first -- recording & sharing OR videos has been going on for decades in university teaching hospitals, and from experience, those places are *very* careful to ask permission for just about anything educational.
You are correct on that, however the only papers I ever signed occurred just before they wheeled me into the OR, jacked up on whatever they give you before wheeling you into the OR. Believe me when I say reading and having cogent thoughts and asking questions about what I signed were not at the top of my todo list.
hmmm (Score:2, Funny)
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Watch out, guys, we've got a badass over here.
Obviously (Score:1)
The latest medical procedure is a Glasstrostomy.
It is a means for removing a Google Glass device
from a wearer of Google Glass ("a Glasshole")
with a swift blow upside the head.
Time and place for everything (Score:1)
What wasn't reported. (Score:2)
Surgeon was probably searching Google on how to actually do the procedure as well. "Google...how to I do a Gastrostomy".
Yes, its a brave, brave new world we are entering when surgeon's need always-on Internet to perform surgeries and respond to tweets while they have their hands in your guts.