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How Not To Be a SEO Spammer 65

An anonymous reader writes "The head of Google's webspam team, Matt Cutts, has blogged about one of his colleagues receiving an email offering SEO services to help the web site The irony wasn't lost on Matt, who has blogged about these emails before. As this article points out, if ever there was evidence that the people who send many of these emails haven't done their homework, this is it."
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How Not To Be a SEO Spammer

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  • by spoot ( 104183 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2013 @09:10PM (#44118755) Homepage

    It would make it rank higher organically with search engines.

    • by cold fjord ( 826450 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2013 @10:48PM (#44119217)

      I will send you my bill for this comment.

    • by ackthpt ( 218170 ) on Thursday June 27, 2013 @12:09AM (#44119485) Homepage Journal

      It would make it rank higher organically with search engines.

      Well, here's one....

      I had to go look up 'SEO' as I was drawing a blank on it. Search Engine Optimization (SEO). There, now I have some idea what the article is about.

      Maybe someone could optimize editors on /. to make sure all acronyms are spelled out at least once in the article.

    • by Joce640k ( 829181 ) on Thursday June 27, 2013 @04:07AM (#44120169) Homepage

      The real LOL is that the department heads think spammers/scammers "do homework".

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  • trust me (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 26, 2013 @09:17PM (#44118801)

    SEO is like Voodoo in some sense. It's not measurable because there's too many factors outside your control.
    Is there traffic because the SEO is awesome, or is there traffic anyways. No one knows.

    The only thing an SEO can say for sure is that we can make the proper on-site changes. Without ever
    mentioning the word traffic - because that leads to false hopes.

    • Re:trust me (Score:5, Informative)

      by pspahn ( 1175617 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2013 @09:51PM (#44118961)

      Yes, it's mostly snake oil, but there is something to be said for properly implemented tags, well formed page names, and the rest of the stuff that makes your site not only bubble higher in the search results, but also provide useful links within your search results.

      And by the way, you can indeed quantify SEO improvements. The only problem is that the SEO guy usually doesn't know how and ends up asking a developer anyway.

    • by Anonymous Coward
      SEO is the modern day snake oil salesman. Give me money and I'll give you this magical thing.
    • How is it not measurable, you either go up or down in relevant search results. Anyway amusing as this story is, I have a hunch that almost all of the SEO spam has nothing to do with SEO, but is rther people trying to social engineer access to servers for viral distribution purposes.

  • by mysidia ( 191772 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2013 @09:18PM (#44118809)

    It is true, that searching for other search engines is a favorite way your average end user utilizes to access other search engines. So Google's SEO / ranking across other search engines is pretty important.

    (Obviously; this is essential to their core business, and they won't leave this to an outside contracter )

    • by Anonymous Coward

      If you search for "web search" on Google, you get some "" as top result, then wiki entry on web search, then Yahoo and lots of other shitty/scammy looking pages like mywebsearch, Google is nowhere in sight.

      Searching for "search" gives, in order, Yahoo, Bing, Twitter's search,, Dogpile, Wikipedia and even AOL. Google's search is on second page.

      Damn right they can't SEO for shit!

      PS: Searching for "search" on Bing gives Google as top detailed result with links to subsites.

      • searching for "search" on gives Google as the 5th no where to be seen!
      • by wvmarle ( 1070040 ) on Thursday June 27, 2013 @06:44AM (#44120579)

        Then they give good results. If I use a search engine to search for search engines, I'm not interested in the search engine I'm searching with to show in the search results, as I found that one already. So that's six searches in one sentence :-)

  • by Swampash ( 1131503 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2013 @09:25PM (#44118843)

    Next up: Slashdot reveals that some of those billionaire Nigerian princes aren't actually real!

    • by splutty ( 43475 )

      I think it would be far more shocking if Slashdot would reveal that some of those billionaire Nigerians *are* actually real.

      Now wouldn't that throw a spanner in the spammer.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Of course some of them are real! I got an email from one promising me 10% cut on $5bn he was trying to pass on to a relative in my country, and so I said to myself "whatever, I got nothing anyway, so let's just go for it" and he did good on his promise! Now I'm rich and you can be too! Just send me your credit card details and I'll pass them on to the same guy who send me all that money...

  • by bill_mcgonigle ( 4333 ) * on Wednesday June 26, 2013 @11:00PM (#44119267) Homepage Journal

    The spammer managed to get ahold of a real human inside Google. No small feat.

  • by antifoidulus ( 807088 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2013 @11:23PM (#44119353) Homepage Journal
    Um, isn't the very definition of a spammer someone who doesn't do their homework, i.e. spams mails out to as many addresses as they can find? I somehow doubt that mail was typed into a mail client and sent specifically to Google. Some spambot harvested a bunch of info and then sent emails to everyone it could find. In other news, water is wet.
    I *suppose* you could add a filter to the spambot, but really why? There are only a handful of search engines, and I'm sure the admins have really good spam filters, so you don't gain a whole lot by excluding them.
  • by acedotcom ( 998378 ) on Thursday June 27, 2013 @12:57AM (#44119635)
    she wanted to boast my rank on google. i asked her how she found my business number and then pointed out that someone had to google it....which means my SEO is just fine. she then hung up.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I told them that when I needed SEO I would search for it and whichever company ranked highest would get the call.

  • Maybe the SEO guy wants to help Google get a higher ranking on Bing, Baidu, etc.? I mean, I just googled "Web Search" on Bing and Google was #7 on the list. That's not good!

    • Lol, God help the person who needs help from other search engines to discover the existence of Google.
      • Lol, God help the person who needs help from other search engines to discover the existence of Google.

        I'm disappointed that no one responded to my use of "google" as a verb when describing searching on Bing to find Google.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Oh the irony of google and spam. Gmail is the biggest contributor to spam in a different way. They refuse to shutdown the gmail accounts created in their 100,000's each week, which are used to register on forums and blogs that require email activation. just check out and you will see that gmail domains total more than the rest of the top 100 spam domains combined. Gmail abuse reporting is pathetic, as are the people at gmail that make the decisions.

  • by bitt3n ( 941736 ) on Thursday June 27, 2013 @08:06AM (#44120855)

    so google gets an offer for SEO, and shortly thereafter google just happens to appear on slashdot?

    I guess they opted for the budget package.

  • This Google insider obviously doesn't understand the problem.

    I did a Google search for "google", and the Google homepage showed up 7th on the list (under some news articles and links to Maps and Analytics). Clearly Google doesn't know what they're doing, and needs to use better SEO so that Google will rank them higher.

    The bottom line is - if Google showed up higher in the Google search results, more people would use Google.

  • I just checked, and google is the #1 result for search on bing.

e-credibility: the non-guaranteeable likelihood that the electronic data you're seeing is genuine rather than somebody's made-up crap. - Karl Lehenbauer