Raspberry Pi, Smart Highways Win World's Biggest Design Prize 91
An anonymous reader writes "Last night the €500,000 INDEX: Award was awarded to five designs that can improve life for millions of people around the world. The winners include high-tech highways that light up at night, the $25 Raspberry Pi computer, a simple piece of paper that can cut food waste by extending the life of fresh produce by 2-4 weeks, and a plan for adapting to climate change."
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Don't get baited by this troll.
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Strangely enough, so is Capitalism.
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...imperialism, the highest and last stage of capitalism, is in irreversable decay.
It's so rotten, one might rightly say imperialism is already with one foot into the grave.
The silver lining: communism is one step ahead of imperialism.
Cut food waste or...? (Score:2)
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The latter will do better to benefit the one percenters.
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The world wide 1% yes. The US 1% no.
World Wide the 1% makes over $33,000
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yes, little did all of those protesters know they were actually in the 1%. The most hilarious part of the whole thing.
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You know they were all making over $33k?
Re:Cut food waste or...? (Score:4, Informative)
Refrigeration doesn't do much with produce. Other than keeping it cold.
I usually keep my fruit un-refrigerated. It tastes better and lasts just as long.
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Refrigeration doesn't do much with produce. Other than keeping it cold.
I usually keep my fruit un-refrigerated. It tastes better and lasts just as long.
Refrigeration provides a controlled clean environment; the temperature doesn't have much to do with it for many foods, but the sealed space keeps out insects etc. and the humidity control is an added bonus.
THIS is something that could be extremely beneficial to most of the world, especially areas near the equator.
Re:Cut food waste or...? (Score:5, Interesting)
Refrigeration doesn't do much with produce. Other than keeping it cold.
Ummm... reduces lost of water by evaporation (juicier for longer time).
Slows down the ripening process... when if comes to shelf life, the supermarkets will count as a loss a too high quantity of ripen fruits that need to be sold in a short time (at a lower price). Because ripe fruits can be damaged not only by bacteria/fungi but also by... hold on... their own weight (have you tasted a peach ripen on the tree until juicy, fragrant and so soft you can take a bite from it with you lips? You won't be able to ever buy it from the supermarket).
I usually keep my fruit un-refrigerated. It tastes better and lasts just as long.
From which I deduce you eat all your fruit mostly within 2 weeks of purchase. The fruit wholesalers may keep it for 2 years in cold storage though (and still have the audacity to sell it to you as fresh).
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You can't go demanding that other people don't have the basic food safety you do.
Well, I mean, you can, but it's tantamount to killing those people.
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You can't go demanding that other people don't have the basic food safety you do.
I only implied (not said explicitelly) that the supermarkets and produce wholesellers will need larger cool spaces for keeping the produce for longer (as spoilage at the buyers side will be lower, the demand of fresh produce will lower as well)
Will this push them to sell the excess of US produce in Ethiopia or Somalia? Given the transport costs, somehow I doubt it; and, if I'm right, food unsafety for the other people will continue without me demanding it
Finally... no, I'm not saying the fenugreen paper is
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And yet, you didn't provide names of any that match the Pi's price.
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i bet some dullard will reply to this quoting the $25/$35 price tag of the pi, claiming that the price is the most important and striking attribute of it. and for that schmuck i'd like to point out that there are other arm socs priced just the same (or a measly dollar higher) that are still so much more than the overhyped pi.
I think you have explained it right there. No matter how good or bad your product is, it is nothing without hype. All people care about today is hype.
Re:How can the Pi win this award when there are... (Score:5, Informative)
From the above list:
ODROID - $90
CubieBoard - $90
MK908 - $65
RPi - $30
How dare people vote with their dollars.
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i bet some dullard will reply to this quoting the $25/$35 price tag of the pi, claiming that the price is the most important and striking attribute of it. and for that schmuck i'd like to point out that there are other arm socs priced just the same (or a measly dollar higher) that are still so much more than the overhyped pi.
Are there any with a warranty of more than four weeks that you can actually mention by name?
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Ummm maybe because only techie hipsters have heard of any of those? Raspberry Pi is a viable platform that people can easily get a hold of, has a growing community (developers, tutorials, etc), and is affordable.
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The Pi is an ARMv6 with a FPU attached, and a decent GPU. Most of the new ARM SBCs out there now are ARMv7 which should be more efficient. Often they have NEON support to help with hardware decoding media http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture#Advanced_SIMD_.28NEON.29 [wikipedia.org].
Also Debian and Ubuntu only have official builds for ARMv7. The Debian team rebuilds ARMv6 as a seperate distro (Raspbian) for the Pi.
Many of the other boards are well within $10 of the price of a Pi, but include eMMC flash on the bo
Re:How can the Pi win this award when there are... (Score:4, Informative)
A couple of points to bear in mind:
- You can now buy a Model B Pi bundled with a fast 8GB SD card for $40 from both our primary distributors.
- Most other cheap boards use the Cortex A8 core, which is rather a primitive implementation of the ARMv7 ISA. In particular, while it's great at memcpy() and reasonable at integer operations, it has rather poor floating point performance; for a floating-point performance comparison of ARM11+VFP, Cortex A8 and the (more modern and capable) Cortex A9, see:
https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/5/topics/466?page=7 [riscosopen.org]
In other news, the FreshPaper guys are amazing. Definitely the stars of the show here in Copenhagen.
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Eben, why were you terminated as a director of the Raspberry Pi Foundation?
http://opencorporates.com/filings/180901240 [opencorporates.com]
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I resigned as a Foundation trustee in December, though I continue to run the Foundation on a day-to-day basis. I am also managing director of the Foundation's wholly-owned trading subsidiary, Raspberry Pi (Trading) Ltd, which handles the engineering work associated with the Pi.
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Thanks for replying, but you didn't answer my question. I want to know why you are no longer a Raspberry Pi Foundation trustee. Why did you resign?
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Replying on the (probably optimistic) assumption that you're actually interested.
The Raspberry Pi Foundation is a somewhat unusual charity, in that it derives the bulk of its funding from trading activities rather than through "shake the tin" fundraising. In this respect we resemble charities which run high-street retail businesses to supplement their charitable income. Once you reach a certain size, it is considered good practice to separate trading activities into another, generally wholly-owned, business
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If I wasn't interested I wouldn't have asked the question. I'm definitely not the only person who is curious about this situation.
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The Pi's CPU is a dog, mostly because there's only one of them. But the GPU seems fairly credible and XBMC actually runs properly on it. That's a lot of people's use case in particular, so IMO that's the killer app for people not using the GPIO. libsf is still sketchy on Mali...
Re:How can the Pi win this award when there are... (Score:5, Informative)
FTFA
I think it has as much, or more, to do with the culture surrounding the Raspberry Pi foundation as it does with the price point.
This is good work these people are doing and it is about making a difference (hence the whole point of the award).
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I think it has as much, or more, to do with the culture surrounding the Raspberry Pi foundation as it does with the price point.
Perhaps when the Raspberry Pi Foundation has an Education Strategy I'll be more supportive of such awards. Until then, talk of helping youngsters learn to program is twaddle.
The new school term is about to start and still no 'Education Packs' available, or even planned. They're happy enough to sit back and take the dollars from people running HTPCs instead.
Let's see what the last update was. April 2012:
The Foundation is currently scrambling to gets its education pack ready by the time units are ready for
Fresh stuff (Score:1, Funny)
> [FreshPaper extends] the life of fresh produce by 2-4 weeks
"Well, kids. I'm back with our month supply of Brussels sprouts, asparagus, and celery. Where's the FreshPaper? I can't find it."
(Kids get an evil look on their faces and stare away.)
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LOL, I must have been the only kid who looked forward to when the Brussels sprouts came out of the garden. :-P
Still my all time favorite vegetable, and I'm a vegetarian, so that's saying something.
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LOL, I must have been the only kid who looked forward to when the Brussels sprouts came out of the garden. :-P
Still my all time favorite vegetable, and I'm a vegetarian, so that's saying something.
The odd thing about Brussels Sprouts is that I can eat one, and it tastes good, the second, so-so, and beyond that I can't stand them.
OTOH, I can eat asparagus until the smell of my pee gets the neighbors to call to report a sewer line break somewhere.
A question of cost. (Score:1)
Will the "FreshPaper" cost the same as replacing spoiled produce or less? If not then I only see this being a niche product for those who are already trying to be more environmentally conscious. The only reference to price in the article is the use of the phrase "low-cost", which is ambiguous at best.
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Well considering people do not have the opportunity to go to a market or store every day, it might be worth the time, fuel and energy saved. Not to mention that people might buy and eat more vegetables, knowing they would be able to use them all.
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Well whoop-de-fucking-do for you.
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Will the "FreshPaper" cost the same as replacing spoiled produce or less? If not then I only see this being a niche product for those who are already trying to be more environmentally conscious. The only reference to price in the article is the use of the phrase "low-cost", which is ambiguous at best.
Well, if it's reasonable in bulk, I can see this being a significant waste saver -- not at the consumer level, but at the grocery store level. Stores toss HUGE quantities of produce because of spoilage. If they can keep them fresh longer, that means more profit for them, better produce for the consumer, and (hopefully) lower prices.
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I was curious how it can keep food fresh without actually touching the food, so I looked at their web site [fenugreen.com]. Here's what it says under "How it works":
Thanks for nothing, web site! Well, their FAQ says this:
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Consumer Reports covered Fresh Paper a few months back, and from their testing, determined an air-tight container performed better.
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2013/06/claim-check-fenugreen-freshpaper/index.htm [consumerreports.org] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDR20j0aTUY [youtube.com]
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If you have an issue with what appears to be a perfectly sound and simple scientific experiment with a clear conclusion, why don't you post about that instead of content-less ad hominems?
And, to quote another AC who you presumably think has no idea what they're talking about:
What part of "Reusable airtight containers seem like a better way to save the world." is hard to comprehend?
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How is someting that takes a non-renewable resource to produce a plastic non-biodegradable container better for the planet than a piece of paper soaked in ground up fenugreek seeds? What is wrong with your thinking and comprehension skills?
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How is someting that takes a non-renewable resource to produce a plastic non-biodegradable container better for the planet than a piece of paper soaked in ground up fenugreek seeds?
Possibly because, for the very reason that it is non-biodegradable, that plastic container will last you a decade or more.
How do the resources required to make and deliver one plastic container weigh up against the resources required to keep someone in the middle of a third-world country in Freshpaper - which doesn't keep things as fresh as an airtight container does - for 10 years?
What is wrong with your thinking and comprehension skills?
What's wrong with your ability to disagree constructively without descending to insults?
Highways that lit up at night ? (Score:3)
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about high-tech highways that light up at night... (Score:5, Funny)
from TFA:
If the road could talk to you, what would it say?
i'm guessing it would be something like, "OWW! OWW! GET OFF ME! IT HURTS!"
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Bah, it's a road, so if you anthropomorphize it, it's saying "oooh, yeah, a little to the left".
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Why not just put the images in the street lamps and use a simple motor to select the image appropriate for the conditions?
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day-glo paint on asphalt? (Score:1)
nothing seems real (Score:1)
The veggie paper doesn't have any test data. The lighted up highways is just speculating. Nothing real, nothing proven. These are winners? I'd hate to see the losers
Fresh Paper (Score:5, Informative)
Consumer Reports covered Fresh Paper a few months back, and from their testing, determined an air-tight container performed better.
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2013/06/claim-check-fenugreen-freshpaper/index.htm [consumerreports.org]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDR20j0aTUY [youtube.com]
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Wow €100k prize money! (Score:2)
Raspberry Pi is just a breakout board (Score:2)
The Broadcom BCM283 system on a chip is impressive, cramming all that capability into one cheap part. So is the Allwinner, which is similar, costs $7, and is the basis of tablets that cost $40. The Raspberry Pi is just a breakout board with a crappy connector layout. There are lots of other ARM boards, most with better layouts.
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Happily, their forum seems to be completely free of the infamous RTFM attitude people so frequently complain about in other Linux forums.
Some of the other boards may be better, but I would bet none have as many people using them.