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Japan Promises an Ultra-High-Tech 2020 Olympics 106

jfruh writes "When Japan first hosted the Olympics in 1964, it was a platform for the country to showcase that it was a first-rate technical nation, with brand new bullet trains for visitors and the games broadcast in color via satellite for the first time. Japan's tech industry is already preparing for the 2020 Tokyo Games, with Japanese companies promising ultra-high-def TV, super-fast cell phone networks, and autonomous self-driving cars on the roads."
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Japan Promises an Ultra-High-Tech 2020 Olympics

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  • by starworks5 ( 139327 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @02:33PM (#45061797) Homepage

    I mean we all know that's why they create lifelike looking robots, instead of producing roomba's or drones.

  • Only $30-$50 a meg if you are roaming

  • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) *

    NHK has promised 8k in time for the show. 8k resolution, 120fps. Hardly anyone outside Japan will have a tv capable of displaying it.

    • by h4rr4r ( 612664 )

      Not sure about that.
      4k tvs are already becoming quite affordable, in another 7 years 8k might well be.

      • What NBC Channels will be in 4K / 8K??

        Maybe NBCSN?? But likely not for CNBC / MSNBC / NBC OTA / ETC. Also it's 2013 and the comcast cable systems are still MPEG 2 HD.

        • Exactly. These new formats cannot exist without a transmission medium. I mean, they could have direct streaming to computers, but how many people around the world have connections that would be useful with 8K video? Even if your connection was fast enough, you'd blow through your bandwidth cap in no time trying to watch 8K video. 4K TV is already over the top, because the there is no delivery mechanism for getting content to the 4K TV. In 7 years, you'll be lucky if there's ubiquitous 4K TV let alone 8K T
          • Bandwidth cap? Caps went out with buggy whips.

          • by geekoid ( 135745 )

            Band caps? still using standard def? Connection can't be used with 8k?

            "because the there is no delivery mechanism for getting content to the 4K TV"several countries are broadcast 4k right now, including the US. Yes it's only in one area, just like any other roll out starts.
            Comcast is rolling out its 4k system.

            OK gramps, it's time you realized that you have been outpaced. Now go enjoy you 8 bit game, or SImon, or whetever the hell you old people play while the rest of us talk, mkay? yes, yes, i heard the sto

        • by h4rr4r ( 612664 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @03:03PM (#45062221)

          None of those.
          Besides watching the pirate version will be far better. The *NBC channels do that dumb docudrama thing when anyone but the USA is competing. No one wants to watch that shit, show more sports.

          • by geekoid ( 135745 )

            Actually, it looks like the FCC is going to loosen up some of it's restrictions on Broadcast TV. so there is hope.

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) *

        8k isn't just a resolution bump though, so the transition will be harder than it is for 4k. No current form of video compression is really suitable for over the air transmission of 8k. No current or planned disc format supports it. Even the video cameras that film it are very different - for example there can't be any manual focusing because a human will never get it good enough by eye alone, it needs to be automatic.

        Anyway, TV manufacturers have to milk 4k for all it's worth first.

    • by ackthpt ( 218170 )

      NHK has promised 8k in time for the show. 8k resolution, 120fps. Hardly anyone outside Japan will have a tv capable of displaying it.

      Laughable. My brain implants give me better resolution than that. Just ask the the wizards at Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.

      Now if only I could get something done about these arthritic diodes...

    • by stdarg ( 456557 )

      Hopefully Japan will commit to providing live streaming of all events over the Internet at 8k! That would be awesome and impressive.

    • Re:8k (Score:4, Interesting)

      by geekoid ( 135745 ) <<moc.oohay> <ta> <dnaltropnidad>> on Monday October 07, 2013 @07:28PM (#45064761) Homepage Journal

      Japan isn't as technologically forward as people seem to think, especially in business. They still us the fax machine more then email, and good luck finding an ATM you can use if tyou are out of your area.

      • by toQDuj ( 806112 )

        Actually, you can use most ATMs around the country, but most close in the evening and at night.

        But yes, they generally distrust computers. And given the latest NSA/GCHQ revelations, I have to agree!

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) *

        I agree the fax machine fetish is weird, but I have never had a problem using an ATM anywhere. Well, some don't like my foreign cards, but Japanese cards work in all of them, and I have travelled the length of the country.

  • by msauve ( 701917 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @02:38PM (#45061861)
    All events will involve Wii-motes.
  • As right now Dish and directv will be hard pressed to offer 4K with out putting a lot more birds up.

    • That's what h.265 is for. Same bandwidth required but higher resolution. Or alternatively, same resolution, but a fraction of current speeds.

      Are you happy with how the satellite companies molest the signal?

      • But in the same time that Directv when from MPEG 2 HD to MPEG 4 HD most cable systems are still on MPEG 2 with loads of old HD boxes still in use.

    • by gstoddart ( 321705 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @02:55PM (#45062093) Homepage

      Well, judging by the fact that my cable company routinely scales stuff down to 720p (or worse in some cases) and calls it high-def, I'm sure some marketing idiots will just come up with their own definition for UHD and claim they're delivering it.

      To be honest, I figure 4k and 8k TV is many years away from widespread adoption. My current TV is only about 2 years old, and I have no interest in replacing my stuff because the movie companies think they can get even more money out of me.

      I'd be more interested in higher resolutions for my computer monitor than my TV.

  • by PeeAitchPee ( 712652 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @02:39PM (#45061871)
    . . . last time one of my friends visited Tokyo, he spent two hours (jokingly) asking directions to the Godzilla Victims Memorial. ;-)
    • Last time one of my friends was in Green Bay, he spent two hours asking directions to the Fudgepackers museum.
      • by Anonymous Coward

        Did he find it? I have often marveled at the speed and efficiency of Wisconsin's confectionery logistics operatives.

      • Last time one of my friends was in Green Bay, he spent two hours asking directions to the Fudgepackers museum.

        The key difference being, you're a lot less likely to get the shit beat out of you for being a smart-ass in Japan than Michigan.

        • by Anonymous Coward

          Last time one of my friends was in Green Bay, he spent two hours asking directions to the Fudgepackers museum.

          The key difference being, you're a lot less likely to get the shit beat out of you for being a smart-ass in Japan than Michigan.

          I don't think any Lion's fan will beat the shit out of someone making fun of Green Bay.....

        • Confusing Michigan with Wisconsin doesn't count as being a smart-ass.

  • by Impy the Impiuos Imp ( 442658 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @02:39PM (#45061873) Journal

    2020, wow! That's only 7 years away, can they get ready that fast?

    Well, I suppose if Chinese gymnasts not yet born can get ready by then, they can, too.

    • Sure, but this is news for nerds, and Nissan, DoCoMo (mobile phone company) and NHK (TV station) aren't going to have much to do with the athletes. They're cashing in on the windfall of spending that is taking place.

      If they actually get mega-high def, 5G coverage, OR self driving cars, that will be a lot more than the citizens in most other countries get out of the games. Debt and headaches from lots of really annoying tourists seem to be all that usually comes out of the games for the locals.
    • Glow-in-the-dark [] Athletes!

  • by logicassasin ( 318009 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @02:41PM (#45061907)

    In 2020, I would expect nothing less than armed Mechs patrolling the streets. Not some American OCP ED-209 garbage either, no, only a sleek and shiny Gundam, Veritech, or some other type of mech will do.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 07, 2013 @02:43PM (#45061925)

    ... will be self-heating and will glow in the dark.

  • by ackthpt ( 218170 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @02:48PM (#45061991) Homepage Journal

    I'd also settle for fewer goofs by judges. Maybe they can come up with robotic judges.

  • I'll probably still need a cable subscription to watch live events on the web in the U.S. Sigh.
  • by Picass0 ( 147474 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @03:10PM (#45062305) Homepage Journal

    The Olympics have overshadowed the World's Fair as a forum and showcase for technology, art, social events, and efforts by each host country to create a "model society" if but for a brief period. Most host countries pour far more money in than they will recover because of the prestige and the opportunity to push their political ideology on the world's televisions.

    • And the bigger the agenda they are trying to push, and the more they have to hide, the higher their budgets will be. Looking at the budgets of the Olympic games [] you'll see that Sochi Russia, and Beijing, are many times higher than what other, less oppressive, countries have spent on the games. Athens even spend an inordinate amount of money as well, and seems to be the only venue in recent history to have a big operating loss on the summer games. Somehow their profit was negative 14-15 billion, with a fina
  • by green is the enemy ( 3021751 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @03:13PM (#45062335)
    I would be happy if they had a Vocaloid perform at the opening ceremony.
    • by aiadot ( 3055455 )
      For such an event it won't be a vocaloid. It would be Miku (unless someone come up with a even more popular character).
  • I'd settle for an ultra high tech nuclear disaster management, instead of morons pushing random buttons that shut off the cooling pumps.

  • by sandytaru ( 1158959 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @04:03PM (#45062977) Journal
    I bet if we went back to 1964 and told the folks designing the Shikansen that they'd get double the Olympics out of them, they would dance with glee. I have to say the two hour train ride between Tokyo and Kyoto was clean, comfortable, and kicked the butt of any equivalent plane ride.
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I found the lack of groping while boarding disconcerting.

  • by rnturn ( 11092 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @04:15PM (#45063163)

    ... is a Bob Costas-free Olympics.

    • by geekoid ( 135745 )

      That's about as likely as a Dick Clark free New Year.
      Every time I see Dick Clark, I start looking around for his phylactery.

  • I find the comments about 8 and even 4K being unrealistic to be somewhat laughable. Do you remember you internet connection seven years ago? Mine is vastly superior today and if it progresses at half the rate it has been streaming 8K won't be an issue.
    • Yes, and it hasn't changed substantially. Cable is just as fast as it ever was (*) and DSL is just as slow as it ever was.

      (*) except in areas where it competes with FiOS, in which case the cable company is magically able to provide additional bandwidth. Funny how that works.

      Also, think about how good your eyes have to be in order to see the differences between 1080p and 4k at common TV sizes (i.e. less than 50")
      • by geekoid ( 135745 )

        It depends on distance, and it allows clarity when breaking the image into smaller images.
        Plus, get a big TV.

  • ... have something to do with sweat and sneakers?

  • by MarkvW ( 1037596 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @05:17PM (#45063849)

    I'm positively radiant about the next Japanese Olympic Games. When news of the details leaks out, everybody is going to just melt down with excitement!

    Thanks IOC!

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