Google Acquires Boston Dynamics 104
First time accepted submitter totally_mad writes "The New York Times reports that Google has acquired Boston Dynamics, a company that is primarily a concept robot maker for the military. The robot wars appear to be heating up between the big corporations, with Amazon recently announcing plans to have 30-minute home deliveries using drones. Perhaps Boston Dynamics', or now Google's, Cheetah will outrun the drone!"
Welcome to the world of the future! (Score:2)
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I prefer to imagine the robo-cheetah batting at a quadcopter while the herd of big-dogs watch from a distance and begin forming a protective circle.
Whichever gets photographic proof of delivery earns the energy credit to survive. Let natural selection do the rest.
Safety (Score:2)
With 8 stitches in my hand, not more than 12 hours ago. I have just gained new respect for multirotors, they are powerful beast.
I really really hope that Amazon puts proper protection in them drones so there are no injuries. The little toy one I have spins at around 5000 rpm with rotors with 16 inches propellers. It can cause serious injuries, just ask my hand.
Who will be responsible if an injury does occur, which they will. If you look at the Amazon prime air demo, the customer asks the drone to descend vi
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In any sane country, the customer. In the USA? The wealthiest company even marginally involved (see e.g. this for inspiration [uclick.com]).
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will be interesting to see what they do with it (Score:5, Interesting)
Will they maintain its current (quite lucrative) military business? I can almost see Google becoming a defense contractor, and it would be one way of addressing their "we need revenue streams other than search ads" issue, which has been their main risk on the financial side for years.
But defense contracting would be a bit of a shift in how they like to do business, and I'm not sure a positive one. Alternately, they could just repurpose the acquired tech and expertise towards Google's own robotics projects, and dump the military clients. That would be leaving quite a bit of money and existing business on the table, though, not to mention possibly annoying some politically powerful folks.
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they replace their inhouse robotics dept with it of course, since they have market experience..
you know, google video-> buy youtube, kill gvids...
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BDI's defense income is insignificant for Google, but the acquisition is a great risk mitigation tactic for anyone wanting to get into robotics in a big way.
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yeah but why do they want to get into robotics, other than because they're big nerds? what is the defensible business reason for expanding into robots? whatever happened with more wood behind fewer arrows. sure, they cancel reader but now make hunter-killers.
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I don't see how there's no overlap with these robots and autonomous cars.
They didn't cancel that program.
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autonomous cars make no sense either. wheres the nexus? somebody has way too much money. its a shame because competition sharpens the mind and makes you produce disciplined well designed products. when there's no budget and no competition you just indulge your inner nerd and make products that have great demos in the 'plex then nothing happens.
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wheres the nexus?
Complex software. Recognizing objects in images and video seem to be one thing search, autonomous cars, and military robots have in common.
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wheres the nexus?
Complex software. Recognizing objects in images and video seem to be one thing search, autonomous cars, and military robots have in common.
that's super, but what's the nexus between robots, autonomous cars, etc, and advertising supported search? the way they make money is by1) providing free services to consumers that are supported by advertising and 2) monitoring consumer behavior so they can place smart ads and make more money from them. where do robots fit in here. how will they be tied to advertising. how will they be tied to data tracking.
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automated Trucks + automated warehouses + automated factories.+ web store
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just because there's big money in something doesn't mean that all companies need to blindly scramble for it.
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In me paying ten extra thousand dollars for a car? In someone richer paying 50 thousand extra dollars?
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I assumed that the cars involved :
1) seeing the tech overlap with image search
2) they had the money to do it
3) someone really wanted them
Maybe they can make money, licensing to manufacturers, though I doubt it, it seems manufacturers already have the tech, based on recent news stories. Google appears to have been the first to seriously start testing it in real world rather than tech demos though, maybe they thought they were further ahead. Certainly autonomous cars will increase overall internet usage, thus
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autonomous cars make no sense either. wheres the nexus?
Isn't it obvious? Few people will pay $100,000 extra for a self-driving car... but lots of people would pay $100,000 for a bipedal robot that not only chauffeurs you around town in your existing car, but also does light housecleaning and yard work. ;)
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As long as it follows the three laws
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yes, this is a good explanation. i wonder what the purchase price was though. that's a big slush fund just cuz your last project was good.
Re:will be interesting to see what they do with it (Score:4, Informative)
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What could get interesting is the combination of those robot technologies with technologies to interpret the environment developed for Google's self-driving cars.
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That doesn't really make them a defense contractor; sharing some data with the NSA doesn't involve the whole procurement game that is the mainstay of defense contracting.
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Hmm, well, we tried searching for other bidders to fulfil the contract, but the only result was Google's products. We went to Bing, but it was the same, almost as if they're copying Google's results...
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Two questions
1. Is the revenue from the defense work of value to Google
2. Is Boston Dynamics' defense work of value to the military
If either or both of those are true then you might see a spin off or divestment of the military work to a 'slightly evil' company that would not be google... because they re not evil
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Would you trust a Google household robot to not scan your house and every single product in it, and relaying the data back to its corporate overlord?
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I for one hope that robotics will provide Google with a revenue stream other than ads and customer data.
Or they simply want thug-bots that can go to your house and beat you up in person to get information, instead of just mining it out of your electronic devices.
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"We do no evil...
...not ourselves anyway...
...we leave that to our robots"
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Alternately, they could just repurpose the acquired tech and expertise towards Google's own robotics projects, and dump the military clients
yeah, I have to admit to being pretty disturbed imagining BD's robots weaponized and on the battlefront. This news is potentially awesome.
I want to think that Google is going to build the world's most amazing wheelchairs and alternative (self-driving) transportation devices.
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Ads (Imagine big LCDs on the side of cheeta) on the Battlefield?
Google for Terrorists (face recogniton from autonomous patrolling robots)?
Streetview for patrolling dangerous areas?
Home deliveries (Much better than flying drones)?
Streetview inside shops and stations?
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But defense contracting would be a bit of a shift in how they like to do business, and I'm not sure a positive one. Alternately, they could just repurpose the acquired tech and expertise towards Google's own robotics projects, and dump the military clients. That would be leaving quite a bit of money and existing business on the table, though, not to mention possibly annoying some politically powerful folks.
Boston Dynamics *is* a defense contractor, so by extension Google is one too, now. I am going to try to remain optimistic about the positive effects that Google can have on human advancement. Science and engineering seem to leap forward much farther and much, much faster when they are deployed in the service of armed conflict. Companies like Planetary Resources, Armadillo Aerospace, and SpaceX are going to have to be able to defend their extra-terrestial ventures, and NASA has demonstrated beyond a shado
DARPA droids! (Score:5, Interesting)
We've already seen some of the incredible Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency [darpa.mil] droids that have come out of that shop, and one can only imagine what designs might be classified and unknown to the public.
There's the humanoid robot, Atlas [youtube.com].
The RC car with a secret, the SandFlea [youtube.com].
There's the robot that runs faster than any man, Cheetah [youtube.com].
The packmule that can't be tipped over, Big Dog [youtube.com].
And the frightening combination of tech, the robot that runs fast on ANY terrain, WildCat [youtube.com].
It will be interesting to see what Google does with their droids. Their robot shop is being headed by the guy that made Android the most popular smartphone OS, Andy Rubin [slashdot.org]. He tweeted a link to the New York Times story yesterday, along with the comment, "The future is looking awesome!" Rubin was a robotics engineer for Apple, and the lens company, Carl Zeiss, before starting with Google.
Regardless of your feelings about droids, I think we're going to see huge advances in robotics now that Google is jumping in with both feet.
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Also very impressive is LS3, Legged Squad Support System, a.k.a. AlphaDog. This is the successor of Big Dog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ezXBEBE6U [youtube.com]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNUeSUXOc-w [youtube.com]
Serious Business (Score:1)
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A rideable big dog, directed by where you look using Google glass.
I look forward to riding my unfalling metal steed to work.
I, for one... (Score:4, Insightful)
I, for one ... (Score:2)
You're too late. Big Dog is already on your tail.
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No, they'll develop it into a real-world search engine.
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An acquisition I did not expect (Score:3)
Re:An acquisition I did not expect (Score:4, Insightful)
Well, if you're going to beat swords into plowshares, it would be great to do it before the swords are wielded in anger -- and even more efficient to do it before you spend all the time to forge, temper and sharpen them.
The technologies BD developed to make these robots work certainly have non-military uses. I'm not sure how they apply to data-gathering and marketing, though. Maybe some parts of Google really are interested in advancing technology for its own sake...?
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Exactly. If somebody wants to give you a lot of money to do R&D ...
You've got the money, honey - I've got the time.
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Google is confused about itself and post-scarcity (Score:2)
Good point on how we should invest our efforts in productive directions. More by me on that:
http://www.pdfernhout.net/recognizing-irony-is-a-key-to-transcending-militarism.html [pdfernhout.net]
"There is a fundamental mismatch between 21st century reality and 20th century security thinking. Those "security" agencies are using those tools of abundance, cooperation, and sharing mainly from a mindset of scarcity, competition, and secrecy. Given the power of 21st century technology as an amplifier (including as weapons of mass d
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All terrain Google Streetview cam-bots maybe?
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Well, they already have autonomous vehicles and if they can add autonomy to "Atlas", then they can replace FedEx and UPS package delivery.
Although that's something I'd expect Amazon to experiment with.
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Too late, name already taken. [wikipedia.org]
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Skynet is already live in China now. They seem to be the early adopters.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9667701/China-using-massive-surveillance-grid-to-stop-Tibetan-self-immolation.html [telegraph.co.uk]
We're doomed... (Score:2)
I was pretty well convinced that the NSA and it's data sniffing what-not has become self-aware and is the first to do so. That may still be the case...
But I'm not pretty sure that the Googleplex is now self-aware and is trying to make itself self-mobile.
Next step, the Nexus-1000 Terminator....
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"now"...But I'm NOW pretty sure that the Googleplex is now self-aware and is trying to make itself self-mobile.
what could possibly go wrong? (Score:4, Funny)
soooo...
lemme see if I got this straight: the company who built skynet has acquired the company that's just built the first cylon? don't see this ending well...
hopefully we at least get to meet the Tricia Helfer, Grace Park, Rekha Sharma & Lucy Lawless models before we're wiped out!
Getting "Crawled" by Google (Score:1)
Re: Getting "Crawled" by Google (Score:1)
It makes getting visited by the Googlebot a much more scarey prospect!
Smarter warfare (Score:1)
Along Google's expansion into military "appliances" warfare will be much easier and result in practically no collateral damage.
Imagine the combination of geolocation, autonomous cars and autonomous war drones.
"Terrorists" would frequently be transported into specially prepared killing zones, with specially prepared, hardened parking lots, for optimum munition utilization.
DOD would receive a weekly auto generated report of kills.
Merry Christmas
And in other news, Google has renamed... (Score:3)
And in other news, following a shakeup at the top levels, Google is being renamed Cyberdyne Systems (NASDAQ: CDSYS).
No word yet on whether the motto "Do No Evil" will remain in place or be changed.
Top executives after the shakeup say their new focus will be on merging their artificial intelligence development projects with newly developed tech such as Google Glass and robotics, in order to create life-like avatars. These avatars can be used as surrogates for disabled person, or even to replace human workers in extremely hazardous occupations. There has been speculation as well that these would also be used to gather even more data from the real world to further enhance their marketing capabilities. The military has also expressed in interest in these avatars.
Rube Goldberg solution (Score:2)
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*whoosh*
So when are they gonna ... (Score:1)
"By Your Command" (Score:2)
Have... (Score:2)
.. William Bell or Nina Sharp made a comment?
Big Dog beta video (Score:2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_122278&feature=iv&src_vid=VXJZVZFRFJc&v=mXI4WWhPn-U [youtube.com]
robo-chauffeur (Score:2)
Or load the same software into Cheetah and it can run deliveries down streets and right up to your door! That will show Amazon!
Fool me once.. (Score:1)