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Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 Pass 10% Market Share, Windows XP Falls Below 30% 470

An anonymous reader writes "With the release of Windows 8.1 to the world in October, Microsoft ended 2013 with two full months of availability for its latest operating system version. While Windows 8.1 is certainly growing quickly and eating into Windows 8s share, the duo has only now been able to pass 10 percent market share, while Windows 7 seems to be plowing forward unaffected. The latest market share data from Net Applications shows that Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 made steady progression in December 2013, gaining a combined 1.19 percentage points (from 9.30 percent to 10.49 percent). More specifically, Windows 8 gained 0.23 percentage points (from 6.66 percent to 6.89 percent), while Windows 8.1 jumped 0.96 percentage points (from 2.64 percent to 3.60 percent)."
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Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 Pass 10% Market Share, Windows XP Falls Below 30%

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  • It doesn't matter (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 03, 2014 @06:18AM (#45854839)

    Windows 8 is still a piece of shit, and most people got it because their device came preinstalled with it... they didn't choose it.

    • by Mashiki ( 184564 )

      Windows 8 is still a piece of shit, and most people got it because their device came preinstalled with it... they didn't choose it.

      Since the vast majority of complaints come down to "the UI sucks" I agree in that so far. The only real complaint I have about it, is the changes to the audio subsystem and drivers. Which breaks a couple of pieces of software(gamemaker pro), which is rather old. But easy to get around if you disable the audio device first, then re-enable it. And any software like that, but in terms of performance for games, it works fine with no slowdowns, in fact it works better in some cases. Where some games wouldn'

      • by aliquis ( 678370 )

        What I find somewhat hilarious: If this works fine:
        http://www.gamersonlinux.com/forum/threads/fallout-3-guide.154/ [gamersonlinux.com]

      • by Jody Bruchon ( 3404363 ) on Friday January 03, 2014 @08:59AM (#45855403)
        The disabling of the "legacy boot menu" ability by default is ridiculous and makes any serious problems with Windows 8 frustrating to fix, as now we can't tell customers to slap F8 repeatedly, we have to tell them to force the machine off in mid-boot TWICE to get the menu and access safe mode. A number of older software titles don't work properly, especially older games. But you want to know what the absolute biggest problem I ended up having with Win8 was, and why I ultimately threw it out?


        I have a laptop with Win8 from the factory and every time I'd slide my finger onto the touchpad from the right edge (a habit I didn't know I had until this) the stupid bar would appear. It happened constantly and infuriated me every time. IT'S NOT A TOUCHSCREEN, IT'S JUST THE DAMNED TOUCHPAD. Who thought this was a good idea?! I have dual monitors set up with the laptop, and the bar would steal focus and I'd have to dick with the pointer to make it go away so I could get back to work!

        Touchscreens on home computers have begun to destroy everything good about them. I still have yet to meet anyone who is willing to sit there with their arm outstretched constantly to do work on a flipping touchscreen. I'm also a "square" monitor throwback: my 1600x1200 monitor is more versatile than a widescreen of the same inch diagonal which tends to come in 1366x768 or 1400x900 resolutions and be very annoying when working with vertical data (spreadsheets, SQL queries, etc.)
    • Windows 8 is still a piece of shit, and most people got it because their device came preinstalled with it... they didn't choose it.

      Well, to be fair, most people get Windows of any version because their device came preinstalled with it.

  • With Windows XP still at 28.98% you can only weep and cry. This means that nearly one third of all PC users are running disastrously old systems.

    • by a_n_d_e_r_s ( 136412 ) on Friday January 03, 2014 @06:23AM (#45854863) Homepage Journal

      As long as the old junk is better then the new junk. They continue to use it.

    • by mwvdlee ( 775178 ) on Friday January 03, 2014 @06:24AM (#45854865) Homepage

      ...and 10.49% of all PC users are running disastrously new systems.

    • It's at least more or less OK as long as it is updated and patched. Happened to run across an XP machine a couple of weeks ago... which had not yet had SP1 installed yet. The weird thing was that it was actually in a quite good shape. I guess it was just too old for the vulnerabilities are exploited nowadays.

      • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

        by Luckyo ( 1726890 )

        Nope. Pretty much any XP machine, even with full updates will be rooted within seconds of going onto public ip open to the internet. I've seen it happen. It's silly.

        But you can secure a vanilla XP, or any XP machine regardless of its update status with some fairly rudimentary actions to the point where OS updates won't matter in a significant way for machine's security.

    • by edelbrp ( 62429 )

      Oh the pain people have for those who won't upgrade. Give me a break. As long as it works, why not let it function? Is it because of the security boogy-man? NSA? What's the rub?

      • by MrL0G1C ( 867445 )

        Botnets, sooner or later these computers with their unpatched software will end up spamming and DDOSing as part of large botnets.

    • by symbolset ( 646467 ) * on Friday January 03, 2014 @06:44AM (#45854927) Journal

      I knew I was going to see this here. Disastrous12 year old software. For the record system builders were stilled allowed to install XP on new netbooks up until October 22, 2010 [zdnet.com], and new machines were still being cleared from inventory Christmas 2011. So it is still pretty new to a few people. Up until three years ago it was still new software. That is not very old for a desktop installation.

      But that doesn't play into your "not Microsoft's fault stupid people won't update their software every decade" theme you have to have going on here, does it? Now it's a matter of people getting jacked out of what they paid for sooner than a reasonable expectation, on hardware that won't even run the upgrade. Completely screws up your flow. Now it's not their fault. Sorry for ruining your party.

      • by recoiledsnake ( 879048 ) on Friday January 03, 2014 @08:15AM (#45855225)

        Now it's a matter of people getting jacked out of what they paid for sooner than a reasonable expectation, on hardware that won't even run the upgrade. Completely screws up your flow. Now it's not their fault. Sorry for ruining your party.

        It's certainly their fault. MS publishes the EOL dates for OSes and has been extending XP's EOL from many many years even though they didn't have to. People expecting updates till the end of time is not Microsoft's fault, everyone likes free stuff. The EOL dates are here. http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/default.aspx?LN=en-us&x=15&y=15&c2=14019 [microsoft.com] If you buy Windows 7 or 8 expecting support till 2050, it's certainly your fault if MS fails to meet your expectation.

        Not to mention, a huge chunk of XP users are using pirated installs, especially in places like China. Which other company supports OSes for so long? Buy an Apple computer for 4 times the price in 2001 and it would've gone out of support in a few years. How many years does an Android phone get supported with updates? 2?

        Not to mention that XP users are holding back web and application development. It's time to move on.

    • I run Windows XP under VirtualBox (host system - LMDE XFCE). Why? For those few times when I need to use IE (for sites that don't work with Firefox or Chrome), or I need to use Office (for documents I cannot amend with LibreOffice, i.e. Office macros).

      As I have an old retail license for XP, it fits the bill. It still works - rather like the 25+ year old fountain pen I used when at university. And it's legitimate. OK when XP goes out of support I may have to fork out 100+ GBP for Windows 8.1 (you can't ge
  • when did this site become the new site for Microsoft uninteresting press releases about their so-called successes ?

    • Re:Sigh (Score:5, Funny)

      by mwvdlee ( 775178 ) on Friday January 03, 2014 @06:25AM (#45854873) Homepage

      when did this site become the new site for Microsoft uninteresting press releases about their so-called successes ?

      Since this isn't a MS press release, I'm guessing "when" is "somewhere in the future".

      You have been found out! [slashdot.org]

    • when did this site become the new site for Microsoft uninteresting press releases about their so-called successes ?

      An anonymous reader submitted the article, it got voted up in the submissions page and samzenpus liked to publish it. There's no more magic to it.

      What kind of article would you like to see [slashdot.org]?

      • I'd like an article to deal with real-life problems, like the ones we face every day. And also, involving far-out situations involving robots and magic powers. It could be a realistic, down-to-earth article... that's completely off-the-wall and swarming with magic robots.

        Also, you should win things by reading it.
  • Glass have water (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anne Thwacks ( 531696 ) on Friday January 03, 2014 @06:29AM (#45854887)
    put it another way: WinXP is still roughly three times as popular as Win8, and even Unity is probably more popular than WIn8 but no meaningful is data available.
    • by flonker ( 526111 ) on Friday January 03, 2014 @06:41AM (#45854915)

      But hey, at least Win8 beat Congress! [gallup.com]

  • Ars Tech link (Score:4, Informative)

    by SternisheFan ( 2529412 ) on Friday January 03, 2014 @07:01AM (#45854973)
    ArsTechnica's covers this with more legible graphs for browser adoption, and OS's (scroll down to bottom of story).

    http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/windows-8-x-breaks-10-percent-internet-explorer-11-makes-a-splash/ [arstechnica.com]

  • by bobthesungeek76036 ( 2697689 ) on Friday January 03, 2014 @07:37AM (#45855087)
    If you look at the Dec 2013 data Vista has 3.61% share and WinDoze 8.1 has 3.60%. What's more amazing is that Vista's share went up between Nov 2013 and Dec 2013. Gotta love it!!!
    • Not amazing. The number of users is probably dropping as well, just a tiny bit slower than the entire desktop market, giving the appearance of an increase. Many people simply migrate away from desktops.

      My guess is that anyone with the slightest tendency to migrate threw out Vista either immediately or as soon as 7 was released, meaning that the ones who still have it are most likely to keep their system as is as long as possible. So, expect this ~3.6% result to stay remarkably stable compared to the others,

  • I have a house full of laptops including a Lenovo Yoga with Win8. I sort of get what they were going for - a machine that's more 'live' in response to a very limited suite of core functions that people use tablets for. The problem is that all the underlying apps don't see the world that way - they work the old way. So you have to re learn a new way to access your old apps which still work more or less the same old way - except where they don't. Or where they for no reason left off basic apps like a DVD play

  • by jamesl ( 106902 ) on Friday January 03, 2014 @07:42AM (#45855105)

    And meanwhile, desktop Linux made record growth from 1.56% to 1.73%.

    • Yeah, that was me. I set up two more desktops with Linux on them.
    • It does give a different view on the reality, doesn't it? It seems like Linux is everywhere to be found on the internet except in the statistics.
  • by Ihlosi ( 895663 ) on Friday January 03, 2014 @08:11AM (#45855203)
    ... over Christmas break. And no, I don't like it. Even after the "upgrade" to 8.1, I don't like it.

    The UI is a mess. It's completely alien to anyone coming from XP/W7, and the features that supposedly make it touchscreen-friendly are completely counter-productive to anyone who doesn't intend to use a touchscreen (for example people with a 27-inch screen that sits two arm-lengths away). Hotspots in particular - just moving the mouse cursor somewhere causing an action is an absolute no-no and very counter-intuitive. How is anyone supposed to know that moving the mouse cursor to the top right corner does something special and right-clicking in the lower-right corner has a completely different meaning than right-clicking anywhere else on the screen? Actions should be initiated by mouse clicks on visible UI elements, not by mouse movements to magic areas on the screen.

    And the app store is a mess. I only knew the app store for Symbian and thought it was a mess since Symbian is officially dead and buried (app store full of nonsense crapware, X varitions of the same app with each author hoping you'll miss the best one and install his instead, etc), but the windows app store suffers from the exact same problems.

    Oh, and it doesn't come with solitaire. And the solitaire from the app store (for which you nee an "MS account") is an overloaded piece of bloatware. Luckily, XP solitaire still runs on W8. This saved the day.

  • 8 is the one to skip (Score:5, Informative)

    by JeffOwl ( 2858633 ) on Friday January 03, 2014 @10:46AM (#45856139)
    Everyone who has paid attention to Windows the last couple of decades knows, Windows 8 is the one you skip. Just like Vista, just like Millennium Edition before that. Sure they threw a in a minor wrinkle in with 8.1, but that was just a distraction to make you think they are doing something, not a major version roll. 98(SE) decent, ME suck, XP decent, Vista suck, 7 good, 8 suck. Next time around they'll keep the back end improvements and fix all the crap they screwed up in the front end.
  • by Ihlosi ( 895663 ) on Friday January 03, 2014 @12:03PM (#45857121)

    load "windows", 8, 1

  • by Lawrence_Bird ( 67278 ) on Friday January 03, 2014 @12:36PM (#45857535) Homepage

    The windoes world is unlike the iWorld. People are neither forced or need to upgrade every time there is a new shiny out there. Windows 8 will not have significant widespread adoption until windows 7 pc's meet their physical demise. The upgrade from XP to 7 (if hardware capable) offered some advantages but not enough that hordes flew to 7. 8 vs 7 is the same phenom - its a bit faster, has a few new tricks but all in all for the average user that only desires the "desktop" its just not on that must have list. It is not that 8 is not good but that 7 is more than good enough.

  • by Gordo_1 ( 256312 ) on Friday January 03, 2014 @03:41PM (#45859609)

    Because I and a million others could have (and often did) tell you this would be the case back when I first tried a late Win8 preview build. MS could have had multiple times the current market share had they simply not *forced* Metro on people who didn't want it. You know, like do a quick check upon install to see if the PC is a touchscreen tablet and then default to the desktop with a classic Start Menu if you weren't on an appropriate device.

    Instead, they chose to piss off tons of people by forcing their phone interface on people who use office applications. And now two years later, they get the market share they more or less deserve.

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