Krita 2.8 Released 75
JDG1980 writes "Krita, an open-source graphics editor, has been around since 2005, but no stable version existed for Windows users — until today. With the release of Krita 2.8, full and stable support for Windows users is finally a reality, thanks to input from KO GmbH and Intel. Krita brings some things to the table that GIMP does not: 16 bit per channel color support, adjustment layers, and a name that won't set off red flags at HR, just to list a few. You can download the Windows version here. Might be worth looking into, if you're tired of the lack of progress on GIMP and don't want to pay monthly "cloud" fees to Adobe."
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Why so Anti-Gimp? (Score:5, Informative)
Krita is not competing with Gimp. Gimp is an image manipulation program like Photoshop. Krita is an image creation software like Illustrator. They are slightly different categories of software. Has the author, JDG1980, even looked at Krita's website? Since the author clearly has not read the site, please read "What are Krita's Development Goals?" for yourself here [krita.org].
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Well, not Illustrator. More Corel Painter. Illustrator does vectors, Krita does raster and vectors.
Krita is used for "digital painting". (Score:5, Informative)
Conflict of interest? "Volunteer and commercial" (Score:2, Insightful)
My experience has been that software that is both supported by volunteers and commercially supported suffers from conflict of interest. Limitations can be arranged that push people toward paying.
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More about Krita [kritastudio.com]:
My experience has been that software that is both supported by volunteers and commercially supported suffers from conflict of interest. Limitations can be arranged that push people toward paying.
Yeah, just like how the existence of paid versions of Linux ruined it for the rest of ... oh, wait...
Not a relevant objection. (Score:2)
Not a relevant objection. See the comment above. (Score:2)
The problem of conflict of interest occurs when there is only one supplier of the software in question.
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If that's true, then there should have long since been limitations in the Linux kernel that you have to pay a premium for in order to get.
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yeah, looking at Krita's website, the anti-Gimp stance comes entirely from the submitter and not from TFA ... some (anti- ?) fanboyism in action I guess ...
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That is moronic. They don't need to slavishly copy the Adobe UI including the stupidity.
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Human Resources
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i think HR might be more miffed about some of the definitions here:
http://dictionary.reference.co... [reference.com]
gimp3 [gimp] Show IPA Slang.
noun
1. a limp.
2. Usually Disparaging and Offensive. a term used to refer to a person who limps or is lame.
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... and why would Gimp set off red flags at HR? TFA assumes we all know about all the gossip about the Gimp, but the author must be an insensitive clod, because I don't.
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Best open source program for Digital Painting (Score:5, Interesting)
tired of the lack of progress on GIMP (Score:3)
tired of the lack of progress on GIMP
GIMP is very feature-rich already and to me seems to be in the stage where change is more incremental. Even so it seems steady. Looking at the Krita site I get the impression it is aimed more at anime/comic book artists than the general-purpose GIMP. Does anyone know how they compare?
Re: tired of the lack of progress on GIMP (Score:5, Informative)
GIMP is very feature-rich already and to me seems to be in the stage where change is more incremental.
The single feature that prevents my wife from moving from Mac/Photoshop to Linux/GIMP is the lack of adjustment layers. This is the ability to non-destructively modify brightness/contrast/colour/etc. In GIMP, if you edit the contrast, then edit in another way, there is no way to re-manipulate the contrast again without losing information. As per the summary, Krita does have this capability. Apperently it's in development for GIMP.
Re: tired of the lack of progress on GIMP (Score:5, Interesting)
GIMP is way over-promoted by FOSS zealots who usually can't accomplish much more than cropping a picture and applying a few filters to the entire image.
This. I really, REALLY want to use GIMP; I do. And I've tried; several times. But I just can't. It's just too clunky and slow and not well thought out in any reasonable manner. Windows pop up in wrong places with wrong Z order, making them impossible to find sometimes. *Common* features (like adjustment layers) are simply missing or work in horrible, horrible ways (like drawing a @#$!@%$ line with an arrow point end).
No, GIMP is not what some people make it out to be. I'd rather use an old Paintshop Pro 6 release than anything GIMP related. And I would except Corel does a better job at screwing up their own products than any other company I've seen in ages. I've actually bought and paid for several versions of Paintshop Pro in the past decade only to have my license mysteriously stop working. "Too many installations" they say. But this message comes up randomly when I haven't done any new installation in months. And then, suddenly, my workflow is halted in its tracks and I'm back to trying GIMP one more time.
My requirements are not steep. I'm not a pro graphics artist by any means. But there doesn't seem to be any good open source graphics editors out there and Krita doesn't seem to fit the bill either. Bah.
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Not open source, but PhotoPlus is cheap and feature-filled. And it has adjustment layers. The little bit of professional graphics work I do gets done with Serif products.
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No, GIMP is not what some people make it out to be. I'd rather use an old Paintshop Pro 6 release than anything GIMP related. And I would except Corel does a better job at screwing up their own products than any other company I've seen in ages.
Tell me about it. The one I've been using for years (because I just couldn't find any OSS that really worked for me) is Photo Impact. But then Corel bought the company (Ulead), and completely dumped PhotoImpact (after releasing a final version which seemed to involve just replacing ULead with Corel and introducing a few bugs), and started pushing Paintshop at their users. It is a far inferior product, even though they stripped some of the good features out of PhotoImpact and plopped them into Paintshop.
Re: tired of the lack of progress on GIMP (Score:4, Informative)
It gets worse. GIMP also has an atrocious, screen hogging interface that was clearly designed by someone who doesn't really understand the workflow of most professional users.
I agree it has a strange interface, which seems to be different to almost any other app, but I would not say screen-hogging. In fact one of the advantages of the wirerd design is that you can have a full-screen image and float the various toolboxes in front as you need them.
It's also slow. Very slow. For example, a 64 pixel Gaussian blur takes twice as long in GIMP to compute as it does Photoshop, the same for most other operations.
I don't know how it compares with other apps but a 64 pixel Gaussian blur on a large image [edmullen.net] takes just under 3 seconds.
The text tool is awful too.
It's a fair cop - yes it is pretty awful - difficult to position text, size at anything apart from a point size, etc.
GIMP is way over-promoted by FOSS zealots who usually can't accomplish much more than cropping a picture and applying a few filters to the entire image.
There are some real artists [libregraphicsworld.org] using it.
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Even if you aren't fazed by its quirky workflow, GIMP is buggy as hell and based on a toolkit that's no longer maintained.
GIMP has 16 and 32 bit editing support since 2.8 (Score:4, Informative)
So I don't know if the author entirely knows what he's writing about.
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No; 2.8 had the 16-bit GEGL engine, but the ability to import all the bits of a 16-bit TIFF and save in a 16-bit XCF is pending 2.10 - although you can check it out from git now.
I realize it's not the same as Gimp, however... (Score:3)
Workflow Issues (Score:3)
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Re:Workflow Issues (Score:4, Informative)
One thing that immediately jumped out is the archaic (i.e. 1980's) method of drawing a straight line. In Gimp, this is super-easy...the last place you were drawing is where the origin of a straight line is. In Krita, it looks like you're stuck having to do it the old-fashioned way of dragging the line from one point to another
I'm guessing this is what you're looking for? http://userbase.kde.org/Krita/... [kde.org]
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Why do people persist in thinking krita is like inkscape or illustrator? Those are vector drawing applications, Krita is mainly a raster drawing application, like Corel Painter, Photoshop or MyPaint.
HR will be so pleased (Score:2)
Krita, on the other hand, has a logo of a voluptuous female squirrel with a highly visible... vagina???? *facepalm*
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We have acquired a Mac Mini and are looking into packages for OSX. There hasn't been much success to date, though you can use the beta ports file for mac ports.
Full suite (Score:5, Informative)
GIMP, Inkscape, Blender, Darktable, Krita.
Complete amateur/semi-professional graphics artist toolkit.
Free of cost. Source code also available. Enjoy.
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I used to use Inkscape exclusively. Its great for a lot of things, can do a lot of things Illustrator cannot, but the handling of fonts and color is simply atrocious.