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Kano Ships 18,000 Learn-To-Code Computer Kits 53

drkim writes Kano Computing is a startup that plays in the learn-to-code space by adding a step-by-step, hand-holding layer atop the Raspberry Pi to make learning about computational thinking child's play. Kano has now shipped all the hardware kits in its first batch of crowdfunded orders and pre-orders. That's around 18,000 kits in all, co-founder Alex Klein confirmed to TechCrunch. The lion's share of the first batch of Kano kits — almost 13,000 kits — were ordered via its Kickstarter campaign last year, with a further 5,000 pre-orders taken via its website. The kits cost $99 (plus shipping) to crowdfunder backers, or around $160 (plus shipping) if pre-ordered on the Kano website. The company plans to focus on selling mainly via its own web channel from here on in, according to Alex.
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Kano Ships 18,000 Learn-To-Code Computer Kits

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  • by BarbaraHudson ( 3785311 ) <(barbara.jane.hudson) (at) (icloud.com)> on Sunday September 28, 2014 @07:42PM (#48016409) Journal
    It's good to hear about a hardware crowdsourcing project that actually delivered.

    Come to think of it; it's good to hear about any crowdsourcing project that delivered.

    • Failed projects are unusual enough that that's why they make the news. Do you have some data to the contrary you'd like to share?

      Contributor to three successful and delivered Kickstarter projects speaking (one late by a year, but for an awesome reason), and backer to another handful, all delivered or on schedule (so they tell me).

      • Unfortunately, Kickstarter doesn't issue stats about how many projects have failed to deliver. This is a problematic area because a project can just linger on in limbo without having been declared dead for who knows how long?

        You yourself admit that one project you funded was late by a year. Where do we set the deadline? 1 year? 2 years, 5 years?

  • What a scam (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    €119 for a Raspberry Pi and a colorful keyboard, and then you still have to buy a screen for it. Oh, you already have a screen for your other computer? Why not just learn to program on the computer you already have then?

    The premise that you need to buy this in order to learn how to program is nothing short of a scam, and the Raspberry Pi was sold very much on the same lie, that it was somehow easier to learn how to program on that, than on the computer you already owned.

    • Re:What a scam (Score:5, Interesting)

      by BarbaraHudson ( 3785311 ) <(barbara.jane.hudson) (at) (icloud.com)> on Sunday September 28, 2014 @07:53PM (#48016461) Journal
      This is not the market you are looking for. I think that others can take heart in some of the things they did:

      There was an HDMI cable that we were using in the kit and it was working fine but we cracked it open to see what was inside and we found that the number of cables inside the HDMI cable was like half what it should of been. So we switched that,” said Alex.

      “The other one was to do with the Kano keyboard, which has an integrated touchpad and click and the Bluetooth connectivity and USB RS as well. Pretty complicated product. And we have one main supplier for it, who was relying on a couple of sub suppliers for a few components inside. And we did a full factory audit, just before shipping — to gauge social and environmental standards, working conditions. And everyone passed with flying colors But there was one component in the keyboard, the battery, when we went to the factory of the sub supplier it wasn’t up to our ethical standards of how we’d like to manufacture.

      “This supplier was very much like China five years ago, so we ditched that supplier.”

      Attention to detail - rejecting something that works because it isn't good enough, is impressive. Would I have thought to strip the cable to see if the wire count was up to standard provided it worked? Would I have forced the sub to change battery suppliers? I don't know.

      They were two months late due to this, but this is a reasonable time/quality trade-off - especially on a launch product. This is the sort of thing that makes me want to see what they have up next, and the sort of thinking we need more of.

    • and then you still have to buy a screen for it.

      Or reuse your existing television.

      The premise that you need to buy this in order to learn how to program is nothing short of a scam

      You do if all you have is a phone or an iPad brand tablet or both. One of my coworkers has no computer at home.

      • by laird ( 2705 )

        Or you can buy a Raspberry Pi and an SD card, download the software and books for free, and stop whining (parent poster).

      • by Lennie ( 16154 )

        Pretty much all digital TV run Linux, so there already is a computer inside ! :-)

        • The Linux-based smart TV is probably locked down to run only apps chosen by the TV manufacturer, not unlike a TiVo DVR. The advantage of an external Linux computer based on a Raspberry Pi is no tivoization.
    • by sirwired ( 27582 ) on Sunday September 28, 2014 @08:29PM (#48016615)

      While the price for the hardware is not awful, they have also built a whole structured environment to help kids learn to code. It's all well and good to simply sit a kid down in front of a Linux box, but unless the parents themselves know how to code, how is one supposed to know where to start the learning process? A tightly restricted H/W platform makes the S/W package tons easier to deploy.

      And the intent is that you'll use a TV as the screen, not a monitor (although you certainly could.)

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by davester666 ( 731373 )

        Um, I bought one of these, and read through the manual about the whole 'learn to code' thing. It is "code" only in the sense that both are done on a computer.

        One is a some kind of game, with a graphical UI for "coding", where you have two blocks, one is the game, the other is using to set the color. You place one next to the other, then click on the 'color' block to select the color you want to UI.

        Others are just starting apps from the command line, and you just give different options to the command line.

    • by laird ( 2705 )

      The kit is for people who want a computer, keyboard, software pre-loaded on an SD card, book, etc.

      You're expected to plug it into a TV that you already own, which is why they don't include a monitor.

      You can also just use the software. It's a free download (http://www.kano.me/downloads) and all of the source code is on GitHub. Heck, they even let you download the content of the books for free.

      So the premise is that if you want the physical stuff (Pi, keyboard, books, software on SD card) it's $129, and if al

  • Showing my age here, Kano was the name of the computer operator dude in Space: 1999.

  • I'm having flashbacks to the KIM-1 [wikipedia.org], a 1976 single-board computer with a keyboard (hex digits) and display (6 LED digits) and 1K bytes of memory. This has a bigger keyboard, a bigger display, more memory, a bit more software, and costs less, but it's basically the same thing, right?
    • by Ozoner ( 1406169 )

      Likewise I started with a KIM-1 !

      Also a SYM-1 and then a Rockwell AIM-65.
      Then built my own version with a 6502 and a MM57109.

      Then the Apple II came along...

    • The problem is: the memory is just big enough to install the facebook app on it.
      After that, all is lost.

  • To buy or not to buy.

    That is the question...

    LK

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