Microsoft Announces Windows 10 644
Today at a press conference in San Francisco, Microsoft announced the new version of their flagship operating system, called Windows 10. (Yes, t-e-n. I don't know.) With the new version of the operating system, they'll be unifying the application platform for all devices: desktops, laptops, consoles, tablets, and phones. As early leaks showed, the Start Menu is back — it's a hybrid of old and new, combining a list of applications with a small group of resizable tiles that can include widgets. Metro-style apps can now each operate inside their own window (video). There's a new, multiple-desktop feature, which power users have been demanding for years, and also a feature that lets users easily grab objects from one desktop and transfer it to another. The command line is even getting some love. The Technical Preview builds for desktops and laptops will be available tomorrow through the Windows Insider Program. They're requesting feedback from customers. Windows 10 will launch in late 2015.
Unified Experience Across Devices (Score:5, Insightful)
Isn't that what Windows 8 was supposed to do? I am confused.
Re:Unified Experience Across Devices (Score:5, Interesting)
You're not the only one, obviously, and that's intentional. By calling it Windows 10, they're trying to put as much distance as possible between it and Windows 8. And make 7 look even more "old".
Re:Unified Experience Across Devices (Score:5, Insightful)
You're not the only one, obviously, and that's intentional. By calling it Windows 10, they're trying to put as much distance as possible between it and Windows 8. And make 7 look even more "old".
And the OS version will probably report something linke 'Version 6.5.xxxx'
Re:Unified Experience Across Devices (Score:5, Interesting)
And the OS version will probably report something linke 'Version 6.5.xxxx'
This seems odd, but they do it on purpose for driver compatibility.
Re:Unified Experience Across Devices (Score:5, Informative)
Not just driver compatibility.
Windows 7 fixed a bunch of Vista compatibility issues with programs built for XP simply by having the version be set to 6.1.
Turns out that companies doing braindead Windows version detection of
had it fail spectacularly for version 6.0.
Re:Unified Experience Across Devices (Score:5, Interesting)
Not just driver compatibility.
Windows 7 fixed a bunch of Vista compatibility issues with programs built for XP simply by having the version be set to 6.1.
Turns out that companies doing braindead Windows version detection of
had it fail spectacularly for version 6.0.
Particularly bad since Windows does have built-in functions to compare version numbers (eg. major.minor.patch.build format)
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Well, how many times have you seen "let's make our own date/time/number/argument/xml parser"?
Re:Unified Experience Across Devices (Score:5, Funny)
Well, how many times have you seen "let's make our own date/time/number/argument/xml parser"?
Weeks of programming can save you from the arduous task of 5 minutes of searching Google.
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Yeah, but... only odd numbered versions don't suck...
Re: Unified Experience Across Devices (Score:5, Informative)
Windows 9x-ME was really Windows 4 all along. 2000 was version 5, XP-10 is version 6.
I don't want to be pedantic, but since we're all being pedantic, I guess I'll do it anyway. You're looking at the wrong codebase. The predecessor of Win2k (v5) was WinNT 4 (v4). The predecessor of that was WinNT 3.5 (v3.5). The predecessor of that Was WinNT 3.1 (v3.1).
WinME was based on the consumer codebase that (in inverted order) was Win3.x, Win95, Win98, WinME. The entire Win9X/ME series reported internal version 4.x but that had nothing to do with the codebase we run today. Again, Win95 was literally v4.0 and Win98 was v4.1 but the current kernel had its very own v4 (and v3) and WinME wasn't it.
Re:Unified Experience Across Devices (Score:4)
Stepping stones. Windows 8 was a wobbly stepping stone but it was a stepping stone. Dev on MS is much easier to cross over platforms than it was in the past.
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a unified experience means putting start menus on phones, like Windows Mobile 6.0 -- which I enjoyed, btw, although it was dog slow. good keyboard and stylus though.
Re:Unified Experience Across Devices (Score:5, Insightful)
Unified Experience Across Devices
Which basically means that the UI for all platforms are dumbed down to the least capable device.
So which competitor to Windows is offering basically the opposite, ie, an Experience tailored to the device? That's the one I will be buying.
Re:Unified Experience Across Devices (Score:5, Insightful)
Better call it Windows 11 (Score:5, Insightful)
Everyone knows the even number versions suck.
Re:Better call it Windows 11 (Score:5, Informative)
Everyone knows the even number versions suck.
You forget windows 2000. When compared to the alternatives at the time it was a kick a$$ operating system.
Re:Better call it Windows 11 (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Better call it Windows 11 (Score:5, Funny)
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Everyone knows the even number versions suck.
I was hoping for a Spinal Tap reference...
Re:Better call it Windows 11 (Score:4, Funny)
It's the alphanumeric ones that suck.
I'm holding out for Windows !
Windows OS X (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Windows OS X (Score:5, Funny)
Sounds familiar.
Yes, they should use the Roman numeral and call this Windows X. Apple did it, and it was cool. Then they could call their next version Windows 10 Plus, or for short, Windows XP. Businesses will jump right on that one.
we are DOOOMED!!! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:we are DOOOMED!!! (Score:5, Insightful)
Nah, it's fine. Every other release is garbage, not every odd number. How would you possibly try to figure out Microsoft's numbering, anyway? Their version numbers go from 3 to 95, jumps to 98, 2000, then goes to the lettering, ME and XP (are those roman numerals?). Then in goes to Vista. Now, lets be fair. 95 and 98 are the years, so let's just count. So 95 is version 4, 98 is version 5, 2000 is version 6, ME is version 8, XP is version 9, and Vista is version 10. So next comes 11, right? Nope, version 7.
Ok, but some of those were professional builds, right? So let's just start from NT v4 and count major NT releases. 2000 is version 5, XP is version 6, Vista is version 7, and... wait.
Wait, wait, I know, let's look at Microsoft's internal versioning numbers. NTv4 is version 4, 2000 is version 5, XP is version 5.1, Vista is version 6. Ok this is making sense, because next version after vista (v6) should be 7, right? Nope, Windows 7's internal version number is v6.1. Windows 8 is version 6.2. WTF?
Re:we are DOOOMED!!! (Score:5, Insightful)
The internal version numbers are completely sensible, the marketing names are dreamed up by marketing people, what did you expect, logic?
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Slaves weren't their intended customers. Chains and whips appealed to 90% of slave owners. (Keep this in mind when you consider Facebook and end users aren't the intended customers....) :)
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It doesn't add up. Fruit - good. Cake - great. Fruitcake - nasty crap.
Jim Gaffigan
April fools! (Score:5, Funny)
Truth stranger than fiction [infoworld.com]...
That feature has been in windows since XP (Score:3, Interesting)
I've been using JS Pager Virtual Desktop since the 1990's. It has all the features described here, and still works in Windows 7, even though it hasn't been updated since 2000.
Re-Sizable Tiles? (Score:3)
Is a re-sizable tile like a window?
Re:Re-Sizable Tiles? (Score:5, Funny)
If they're written in Java, maybe.
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Re:Microsoft skips 'too good' Windows 9, jumps to (Score:4, Funny)
Translation:
It's such a screwed up mess that we don't know how to deal with it, so instead we're going to pull some marketing razzle dazzle and hope like hell people forget the mess we made.
But the real question is this:
If every other release sucks, and windows 8 sucked, and windows 9 is so good that it can't even be released, does that mean that Windows 10 will suck?
Re:Microsoft skips 'too good' Windows 9, jumps to (Score:4, Funny)
Fuck everything, we're doing Windows 10.
Would someone tell me how this happened? We were the fucking vanguard of operating systems in this country. Windows XP was the operating system to run. Then Apple came out with OS X. Were we scared? Hell, no. Because we hit back with a little thing called Windows Vista. That's Aero UI and a sidebar. For widgets. But you know what happened next? Shut up, I'm telling you what happened - the bastards went to mobile. Now we're standing around with our cocks in our hands, selling a desktop operating system with a sidebar. Aero or no, suddenly we're the chumps. Well, fuck it. We're going to Windows 10.
Sure, we could go to Windows 9 next, like the competition. That seems like the logical thing to do. After all, 8 worked out pretty well, and 9 is the next number after 8. So let's play it safe. Let's make a better UI and call it the Start Screen. Why innovate when we can follow? Oh, I know why: Because we're a business, that's why!
No 9? (Score:5, Interesting)
When I was a kid I remember reading that in Japanese, "4" sounded like death and "9" sounded like suffering. A quick bit of Googling 25 years on and:
"[In Japanese] Nine is also sometimes pronounced ku, which can mean suffering."
I'm guessing they skipped Windows 9 because they didn't want it to sound like "Windows Suffering" in parts of the world!
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Windows Nine is pronounced like the German "Windows Nein", which means Windows No.
Re:No 9? (Score:5, Informative)
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Well, there you go. They didn't want to offend the *other* Axis nation by making "Windows Nein".
Windows 10, huh? (Score:4, Interesting)
I guess they want version parity with MacOS? Or they want to put it in people's minds that this version of Windows is so much better than 8, they had to skip a version number.
I just hope they listen to user feedback this time about the UI. If the Start menu is back, that's a good sign. I know a lot of people say it's a throwback, but the Metrofication of the familiar desktop was what caused our group to skip Windows 8 for inclusion in our product. (We provide a managed IT service to a very staid, boring industry that actively resists change.) I really really REALLY want Aero Glass or something like it back in the OS, or at least theming support that would allow a third party hack. Windows 8.1 Update 1 was pretty decent in terms of UI cleanup, and I hope they continue. Maybe they'll answer my other wish and fix the Office UI...having a background choice of white, bright white and insanely bright white is a killer on any screen larger than a tablet.
We'll see if they learned their lesson with Windows 8. Hopefully by the time the release rolls around, the tablet/social/mobile bubble will have at least deflated a little, and people might be back down on Earth wanting to do actual work on a laptop or desktop. Windows 8 and Server 2012 R2 are actually really nice under the hood, and excellent upgrades to Windows 7 -- but they're hobbled by a clunky UI that I've only recently come to terms with.
Everything makes sense now! (Score:5, Funny)
But no! Really, the problem is that they've been coding everything in base 9!
Now that Windows has reached version 10 (Score:3)
Huh? (Score:3)
So let me get this straight.. what WAS going to be "Windows 9" is NOW "Windows 10"???? Idiot-central up there in Redmond.. Sooooo GLAD I retired from supporting MS's crap a few years ago.. Now I use Linux and damn glad about THAT!
Microsoft Math (Score:3, Funny)
This reminds me of something my first boss told me: "Microsoft can't tell time. Have you ever seen how it counts down 3 minutes... 2 minutes... 7 minutes... 2 minutes... 1 minute...? They can't tell time!"
At This Rate (Score:4, Funny)
How long before I can reinstall Windows 95 and be up to date?
Re:At This Rate (Score:4, Funny)
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How long before I can reinstall Windows 95 and be up to date?
About 7 years and a few months. It appears that Microsoft is adopting the Chrome/Firefox versioning system. Version number will be increased by 1 on every patch Tuesday.
Camel = Horse designed by committee... (Score:3, Interesting)
That's what Windows 10 looks like to me - a Camel. Mixing "traditional" apps with "Metro" tiles looks ridiculous. Why can't MS just leave Windows 8 behind? It was an experiment and it failed - massively. Yet they are still stubbornly handing on to "tiles" and such.
On the bright side...
1) Nice to see the Start Menu back...if only they could drop those stupid tiles.
2) Multiple desktops is nice. Been using it on OSX and Linux forever. From what I can tell the functionality seems a bit limited in Windows 10 but it's a start.
I've been using Windows 8 for about a year now on my home PC and, metro interface aside, it's great. Very stable, requires little in the way of resources. It looks awful but runs well. That's what Microsoft should be taking away from this. The guts of the system are fine. Fix the interface.
What I'd like to see is something similar to Linux where you can choose the interface you want (Mint, KDE, etc.) from the login screen and it just loads it up. So if you're running a desktop with a big screen you get something that looks a lot like Windows 7. If it's a table or phone, give 'em tiles.
This "one size fits all" approach is just an abomination.
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It's more of a task-switching thing for me.
I have multiple contexts I work in during the day. Each time I change tasks, but don't want to close the windows for the task I was doing before, I move to a new desktop. That, plus one desktop devoted entirely to communications (email, social media, etc), and I can switch between contexts with one or two ctrl-alt-arrow key combos, rather than painstakingly reconstructing the window layout each time I switch.
Until the OS supports saving a group of apps, complete wi
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I find that it works best if you have a laptop and no secondary monitor. On my home office desktop machine I have 2 external monitors so I have no need for multiple virtual desktops.
If I find myself using my laptop then it can be handy to have virtual desktops. For me, it keeps things neater and cleaner. I can devote one desktop for email/skype/etc. A second desktop for spreadsheets, a third for remote desktop sessions.
It's nice to have the choice.
Re:Camel = Horse designed by committee... (Score:4, Informative)
detailed feature list leaked! (Score:5, Funny)
Full list of planned features here. [apple.com]
Windows NG was a better name (Score:5, Funny)
Windows: Next Generation
Can be shortened to WiNG
Maybe even a flying wing logo. (man oh man why didn't I become a genius advertising guru instead of a loser IT geek)
And the version after this could be called Windows into Darkness
Re:Windows NG was a better name (Score:5, Funny)
Well, after avoiding 9, going to Windows DS9 would be silly, but Windows Voyager could work.
MS did this before with MS Word (Score:3)
Oddly, changing the version numbering doesn't actually make the product better. Who'd have guessed that?
Re:MS did this before with MS Word (Score:5, Informative)
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Windows 10 = iPhone 6 (Score:3)
Wait... what? Multiple desktops, same apps behave properly as fullscreen tablet apps or desktop windows, snapping control, hybrid menus, launch/switch/end gestures (copied from WebOS and Unity), a task view with app and desktop preview... Every single one of these features has been out for years on Linux (and most on Android or OS X), in much more polished form. It's 2014 and the Windows team is just now figuring out how to have two window managers co-exist? How very retro!
Windows 10 vs. Linux Mint/Ubuntu/Fedora/etc = iPhone 6 vs. Samsung Galaxy/Note series...
The dominant/big-name brand is _years_ behind and floating forward on market momentum.
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Dear MS (Score:5, Insightful)
One size fits all never worked. It doesn't with underwear, it doesn't even with socks. Sorry. Cutting corners here will only mean that your OS will be the WORST choice on ALL products. Because every other product in the market that is fitted to the type of device it is meant to run on will have a better suited interface and give the user a better experience.
One size fits all is nothing but a mediocre compromise, and by definition inferior to any specialized solution.
Well the pattern fits (Score:4, Insightful)
Given the history of Windows naming, MS likes to change the pattern after two versions: . . . .
Windows 3.1
Windows 3.11
. . .
Windows 95
Windows 98
. .
Windows ME
Windows XP
. .
Windows Vista
. .
Windows 7
Windows 8
. .
Windows 10
Why not... (Score:3, Interesting)
Why not just merge the Start menu and the desktop once and for all, with all the best features of both?
Hold down the Windows key to instantly hide all but the desktop.
Basically like clicking in the lower right corner on Win7, but much faster, while bringing in some of the UI features from Win8.
Get rid of the various "hover/slide in from the edge" Win8 conventions - put those options on the desktop.
Make the task bar default visible only on the Desktop (optionally always visible, of course).
For touch, keep a transparent Start button hovering in the lower left - hold touch on it if you don't have a Windows key/button to show the desktop.
Apps could request true full screen to get rid of the button, of course.
About god damn time.. (Score:5, Insightful)
Windows 10 (Score:5, Funny)
Windows has become irrelevant (Score:3)
Re:Skipping a version number (Score:5, Insightful)
They're not skipping a version number.
Windows 9 is basically going to be a Service Pack for Windows 8.
Confirmed: Windows 9 to be a free upgrade for Windows 8 users [yahoo.com]
Releasing Win10 so quickly supports the idea that Win9 is just an update.
Win10 is really what they want all the Win7 users to move to.
Re:Skipping a version number (Score:5, Informative)
Not quite. If you read the article, what the article is calling "Windows 9" is now "Windows 10."
Also, from the same site, if your computer came with Windows 8 installed, you'll have to pay to upgrade [yahoo.com]. Which ain't gonna happen.
Re:Skipping a version number (Score:5, Funny)
Calling it "Windows 8.2" would support the idea that Windows 9 was just an update.
Skipping straight to Windows 10 makes it look like they're either just messing with us, or trying to compete with WordPerfect again.
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There will be no free upgrade if your computer came with Win8.x pre-installed. And there is not going to be a Windows 9 - they skipped directly to 10. [yahoo.com]
The Windows 9 upgrade might not be as free as initially believed
Guess they wanted to catch up to Apple OSX version 10. Same as when one linux distro would bump their version number, others would to, even if that meant skipping a few digits in the process, so they wouldn't seem "behind."
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It gives a +1 to all Shark Jump saving throws for 6 months, but they have to spend an extra 1m GP explaining it.
Re:Skipping a version number (Score:5, Informative)
Here's the thing... those are are marketing numbers, not version numbers. If you go by their internal version numbers, they make a lot more sense, and better reflect incremental changes vs total rewrites.
Windows 2000 - 5.0
Windows XP - 5.1
Windows XP 64-Bit/Server 2003 (incl R2) - 5.2
Windows Vista/Server 2008 - 6.0
Windows Server 2008 R2 - 6.1
Windows 7 - 6.1
Windows 8 - 6.2
Windows Server 2012 R2 - 6.3
Windows 8.1 - 6.3
Before Windows 2000/XP, there were two completely separate OSes (NT and DOS), rather than simply different editions of the same OS. Because 2000 and later are the successors to NT, that's why it starts with 5.0.
So why did NT start at 3.x? Because it started life as the successor to OS/2 1.3 and 2.0, known as OS/2 3.0. When it shifted to become Windows rather than OS/2, it kept the version number.
The DOS based Windows go: 1.01, 1.03, 1.04, 2.0, 2.10, 2.11, 3.00, 3.10, 3.11, 3.2, 4.0 (Win95), 4.10 (Win98), 4.90 (WinMe)
Windows versioning numbers makes a lot more sense once you separate the marketing name from the actual version number. MS Office works the same way (e.g. Office 10 is Office XP).
Re:Catching up with Fedora (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, the feature list sounds like a 90s linux desktop. Is Windows finally ready for the power-user desktop?! This could be the year.
Yes multiple desktops! (Score:5, Funny)
Windows has caught up with fvwm. 1.
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Windows 3.1 had accessory tools (I think I used one called "Dashboard") that did multiple desktops - what's that, like 23 years ago?
Re:Yes multiple desktops! (Score:5, Funny)
I had multiple desktops over 30 years ago. One desk had a Commodore 64, another desk had a Color Computer 2, etc.
Re:Yes multiple desktops! (Score:4, Informative)
Symantec's Norton Navigator for Windows 95 included a virtual desktop feature as well and it integrated into the taskbar. http://www.danielsays.com/ss-g... [danielsays.com]
Whats odd is that until recently, only X11 windows managers seemed to have the feature standard. Apple only added the feature a few years ago to OS X, and now Windows finally has it.
Re:Catching up with Fedora (Score:5, Insightful)
Doesn't see to have a real shell yet. Bash, csh, tcsh, I don't care. Windows is a gaming OS unless it can put productivity back. Otherwise it's OS X or Linux...
Re:Catching up with Fedora (Score:5, Insightful)
oi excuse me? PowerShell is actually pretty damn awesome. It's very powerful.
Re:Catching up with Fedora (Score:4, Insightful)
Doesn't see to have a real shell yet. Bash, csh, tcsh, I don't care. Windows is a gaming OS unless it can put productivity back. Otherwise it's OS X or Linux...
PowerShell beats anything *sh on consistency, terseness, expressiveness, risk management, integration, remoting, job control, interactive assistance.
And it is not as dangerous :-)
Re:Catching up with Fedora (Score:5, Insightful)
Except it's not *sh, all my sh* is in *sh, and all my sh* runs on Linux's *sh and OS X's *sh. I'm not interested in being tied to anyone's platform, not in my shell, not in my language (No C#, .NET Obj-C, Swift, other bullshit).
Without *sh the OS is useless to me.
Re:Catching up with Fedora (Score:5, Interesting)
Terseness??
PS C:\> Get-ChildItem
[INSERT LONG ASS LIST OF FILES HERE IN SIMILAR FORMAT TO ls -l THAT SLASHDOT REFUSES TO LET ME POST]
PS C:\> Set-Location dev .....
PS C:\dev> Get-Content _vimrc
How one might obtain a directory listing in a concise format is beyond me.
Sure, those stupid commands are aliased to ls and cd, but the "real" versions are indicative of how all the commands are named. Names only a Java dev could love. Invoke-some-random-command-with-a-very-long-name-for-no-reason. LOL.
My personal favorite, however, is command invocation:
PS C:\> 7z.exe
Bad numeric constant: 7. (What??)
PS C:\> '7z.exe'
7z.exe (Uh...)
PS C:\> & '.\7z.exe' (WTF?)
7-Zip 9.20 Copyright (c) 1999-2010 Igor Pavlov 2010-11-18
Every command drags you further and further down into the soul crushing hell that is COM, or whatever the current framework du jour is this year. I suppose it must be useful for something, but I think I'll stick with GnuWin32 and the powershell's idiot cousin, cmd.exe when I absolutely must work on a windows box.
Terseness. Hah. I'm sure the poor sons of bitches stuck administering a bunch of crufty Windows boxes get some millage out of it, but I'll be damned if I'd use it for day to day CLI work.
Re:Catching up with Fedora (Score:5, Informative)
Yes, terseness. Have you heard of this fancy thing called "aliases"? Powershell has quite a few out of the box. For example, "Get-ChildItem" is aliased to... "ls". And "Set-Location" is aliased to "cd". And "Get-Helped" is aliased to "man". And aliases work everywhere, so "man ls" works exactly as you'd expect it to.
On the other hand, when you have no clue of what a particular command might be to do something that you need done, your chances of guessing it in PSh are much higher, because the canonical names are descriptive rather than terse.
Re:Catching up with Fedora (Score:4, Informative)
Given that all the Unix shells predate PowerShell by at least two decades, and more for most of them, of course they wouldn't alias PS commands.
And no-one said that PS is better because it has aliases. Aliases are there for convenience of people who come to it from other shells (which is why it has other aliases for people coming from cmd.exe - "dir" works same as "ls", for example, and "help" works like "man" etc). What makes it better is something else - the notion of passing structured data in streams, rather than just text (which is then just a subset). For some things where you have to write insane sed/awk scripts in Unix to massage the text output of a command into something that another command wants, the equivalent PS can be three times as short, and orders of magnitude clearer, because it doesn't need to parse text to extract the data - it just reads the property of an object.
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No, I don't understand it. And I don't really feel as though I want to, since I'm only working in a Windows environment because I'm too lazy to switch back and forth between a Linux one for work and Windows for games. I do web development, and it will be a cold day in hell before I touch any part of the MS web stack, so I spend most of my time remoted into one Linux box or another. Cygwin fills in the gaps. .Net? Hmmph, more like .Meh
Re:OMFG, stupid (Score:5, Funny)
Look at it from the bright side, at least it wasn't called Windows One.
Re:OMFG, stupid (Score:5, Funny)
Then, we'd know it was on par and lock step with Apple's OS going forward.
Re:OMFG, stupid (Score:5, Funny)
Re:OMFG, stupid (Score:5, Funny)
Or they could adopt the new place names like Yosemite. Being a Washington state company they should do Windows Mount St. Helens.
MS OS X ? (Score:3)
win10? If they had humour the'd call it windows Ah
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If your Tesla has a gas tank, you might be doing it wrong...
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Well no wonder your Tesla blew up....
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Chemical potential energy.
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Warm nacho cheese.
Re:Need to see how to get in the Windows Insider P (Score:5, Funny)
Don't let them bring you down, I'm sure this is finally the update where windows is ready for the desktop. What do you have without your dreams?
Re: Missed opportunity (Score:5, Funny)
The coolest things have X:
OS X ...
Windows X
Xbox
Malcolm X
Mega Man X
X-wing
Xylophone
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X-Men and X-Com blow away all of those in coolness. And fun.
Re: Missed opportunity (Score:4, Insightful)
Re: Missed opportunity (Score:5, Funny)
No, those are the hottest things, not the coolest.
Re: Missed opportunity (Score:5, Funny)
Or, (can't believe I missed this) Windows 0Ah
Abbreviated as "W0Ah" and endorsed by Keanu Reeves
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The "Post Anonymously" checkbox is right above where you type the comment subject.