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NSF Commits $16M To Build Cloud-Based and Data-Intensive Supercomputers 29

aarondubrow writes: As supercomputing becomes central to the work and progress of researchers in all fields, new kinds of computing resources and more inclusive modes of interaction are required. The National Science Foundation announced $16M in awards to support two new supercomputing acquisitions for the open science community. The systems — "Bridges" at the Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center and "Jetstream," co-located at the Indiana University Pervasive Technology Institute and The University of Texas at Austin's Texas Advanced Computing Center — respond to the needs of the scientific computing community for more high-end, large-scale computing resources while helping to create a more inclusive computing environment for science and engineering. Reader 1sockchuck adds this article about why funding for the development of supercomputers is more important than ever: America's high-performance computing (HPC) community faces funding challenges and growing competition from China and other countries. At last week's SC14 conference, leading researchers focused on outlining the societal benefits of their work, and how it touches the daily lives of Americans. "When we talk at these conferences, we tend to talk to ourselves," said Wilf Pinfold, director of research and advanced technology development at Intel Federal. "We don't do a good job communicating the importance of what we do to a broader community." Why the focus on messaging? Funding for American supercomputing has been driven by the U.S. government, which is in a transition with implications for HPC funding. As ComputerWorld notes, climate change skeptic Ted Cruz is rumored to be in line to chair a Senate committee that oversees NASA and the NSF.
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NSF Commits $16M To Build Cloud-Based and Data-Intensive Supercomputers

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  • Start telling Congress how Europe and China can predict hurricanes better than we can, thanks to their supercomputers. Nothing like a good "The furners are beating us!" rallying cry to squeeze money from the right (hell, the left too).

  • To late. The Republican party has decided to legislate against reality already.

    House Republicans pass bill forbidding scientists from advising the EPA on their own research [salon.com]:

    H.R. 1422, which passed 229-191, would shake up the EPA’s Scientific Advisory Board, placing restrictions on those pesky scientists and creating room for experts with overt financial ties to the industries affected by EPA regulations.

    The bill is being framed as a play for transparency: Rep. Michael Burgess, R-Texas, argued th

    • by fnj ( 64210 )

      What are you, on crack? The Republicans in the House can pass pretty much anything they want. That's a fact of life for now. That doesn't get it through the Senate. Even after January it doesn't fly through the Senate because of the filibuster/60-vote procedure. And even if it makes it through there it sure as hell doesn't get signed by President Obama.

      So really, who cares?

      • Harry Reid wants you to know only a straight majority matters now.

        ... As he hands over the majority leader status.
    • They are calling to task the "Most transparent US administration in history", which is threatening to veto this bill because "the Environmental Protection Agency should, in some case, be able to write regulations based on science and data that is not made available to the public." There's some transparency for you.

      Of course propaganda from the left-wing Salon (and the only references in the article are to the even-more-left-wing ThinkProgress site) gets this bill completely wrong. Maybe try reading it?

      The

      • They are calling to task the "Most transparent US administration in history", which is threatening to veto this bill because "the Environmental Protection Agency should, in some case, be able to write regulations based on science and data that is not made available to the public." There's some transparency for you.

        So, are you saying all science and data on every subject should always be public? Or that EPA should pretend not to know any that, for whatever reason, aren't?

        Anything that curtails the power of

        • So, are you saying all science and data on every subject should always be public?

          Nice straw man you've got there. Obviously, I never said or intimated anything of the sort. If some idea is being used to create public policy, enforced by armed bureaucrats, then, yes, absolutely, the science needs to be public and available.

          Indeed, back in Good Old Days one could use water for fuel

          Another nice straw man. Oh, right, since we had worse pollution 70 years ago, every little tyrannical behavior of the EPA [scotusblog.com] should be allowed without question.

          But hey, maybe you fancy living in Mordor.

          ... and you fancy living in North Korea. nyah.

    • As Wittgenstein (a very liberal guy) noted: reality is a personal construct.

      The happy man lives in a different universe than the unhappy man. Etc.
  • So what does that mean? They are going to spent $16M on a contract with Amazon to have them host some data in the cloud?
    • by Nite_Hawk ( 1304 )

      Amazon is a possibility for some research (and there are PIs who haven gone that route). There are a couple of problems:

      1) If you use EC2 24/7 and need a ton of data storage and fast data transfer capabilities it's no longer that cheap.

      2) Sending potentially sensitive data off to amazon servers isn't a great idea. Even if you have data that is supposed to be de-identified, there are PIs who will intentionally or unintentionally screw up and put sensitive data on your cluster. It's one thing if this is in

      • by tnk1 ( 899206 )

        I'd agree that there are certain applications that AWS would be not so good for.

        If you can guarantee nearly full utilization of your equipment and a certain amount of bandwidth, you're probably best with buying your own stuff. The price tag will be large up front, but you'll save money over the long term.

        That said, if the problem is ramping up and down your needs, you might have a good case for at least adding Cloud services to your existing mix. It is probably a bitch to get new equipment for the governm

  • Instead of a paltry 19 million why not toss them a billion bucks to build a computer that will rock the world. Apparently some nations now engage us in forms of cyber warfare daily. So lets not get slightly ahead. Let's get Star Wars types of ahead and build a computer that can easily handle any threats thrown at it. And such a machine just might get rid of problems like cancer, poverty and other plagues that mankind has always endured.
    • by tnk1 ( 899206 )

      Cancer is a a tough one because it is not actually one disease, but many causes for abnormal cell division and tumor growth.

      Most of the other ones are actually not things you need computers to fix. Except for temporary situations caused by disasters, the only real reason for plagues and poverty is human nature.

      We could feed the entire planet with the food we're growing now. Everyone. Instead we burn it or turn grains into ridiculous forms of fuel or drinks because we don't care to share it, and what is m

  • Considering that only 42% or so of Americans believe global warming is real, I'm not sure why Cruz is getting labeled a "skeptic".

    Or do the opinions of ordinary people count for nothing?
    • by ndykman ( 659315 )

      When compared to the broad consensus of science, yes. Belief doesn't enter into it, the research is done. Global warming is an established fact. And not just by one paper, but by repeated, peer reviewed research. Even early skeptics in climate modeling have come to the same conclusions.

      I hesitate to call him or others skeptical, as it suggests there is really any room for doubt. There really isn't. The core findings about global warming are established. Covering our ears and shouting "it's not true" won't c

      • I don't think you realize how much your posture is damaging your cause.

        When people see "the experts" insisting, pushing, fighting, and demonizing that they understand what ordinary people don't ... people stop listening.

        The articles are peer reviewed so dissenting voices are kept out. See climategate.

        The hockey stick graph has been thoroughly discredited.

        Global temperatures have been dropping more than they've been increasing.

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